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Title: Could a Solar Storm Send Us back to the Stone Age?
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URL Source: http://www.csmonitor.com/Science/Co ... -send-us-back-to-the-Stone-Age
Published: Aug 10, 2010
Author: Jack Kennedy.
Post Date: 2010-08-10 09:35:15 by Ada
Keywords: None
Views: 240
Comments: 16

In 1859, a powerful solar storm burned telegraph wires all across Europe and America and electrified the skies. As the sun awakens from a period of dormancy, it's worth remembering that a storm of that magnitude today could bring modernity to a sudden halt.

The 1859 Carrington Flare produced auroras that were visible as far south as Cuba. It also made telegraph systems go haywire.

By Jack Kennedy, Spaceports / August 9, 2010

The Great Solar Storm of 1859 is now known in history as 'the Carrington flare' that burned telegraph wires all across Europe and America lighting the skies in many parts to the extent that miners awoke to start their day with breakfast in the middle of night. It was the largest single solar eruption from a sunspot in recorded solar observation history, described in Stuart Clark's book, The Sun Kings.

.Within twenty-four hours, the Aurora Borealis electrified the skies glowing in red, green, and purple colors so bright that newspaper print appeared as if it were daylight in numerous locations throughout North America as far south as Cuba but normally keep to the cold Arctic Polar Regions. The lights resulted from the electromagnetic energy fields created by the solar wind plasma colliding with the Earth's upper magnetosphere on a significant larger planetary scale, as told in Clark's 189-page book published in 2007.

The 1859 solar event was disconcerting as telegraph systems worldwide went haywire for several hours. Spark discharges shocked telegraph operators and set the telegraph paper on fire. Even when the telegraphers disconnected the batteries powering the lines, aurora-induced electric currents in the wires still allowed messages to transmit. Even simple magnetic compasses ceased to point north for hours.

IN PICTURES: The northern and southern lights

Society of 1859 did not notice the solar storm the way it would today. The telegraph signal system of the Morse code was only 15-years old. There was no satellite TV feeds, no automated teller machines, no Internet, no cellular telephones, no iPads, no major electric power grids existing, and no GPS satellite navigation systems. There were no modern telecommunications disruptions; none of any significance had yet manifested into existence - save the telegraph.

Fast-forward one hundred and fifty three years to late 2012 or 2013 . A globalized world is extremely dependent upon electronic communications to operate banking, communications, health care, computers, transportation systems, and a massive electric grid serving billions of people. A super solar flare on the scale of the one in 1859 could shut down modernity for days, weeks, perhaps months depending on the size of the white solar flare eruption from within a sunspot. One could equate such a possible episode as a Cosmic Katrina-like event on a nearly global scale happening in say less than twenty-four hours and possibly affecting millions of people.

A giant solar storm is expected in the range of every one-to-five hundred years but scientists today have no means to predict them only observe them hours before the electric charge hits the upper atmosphere of Earth. There may be sufficient time to power-down a few hundred of the orbiting satellites but electric power would probably be lost and the hard-drives of computers and servers may crash without hardened back-ups somewhere underground or otherwise properly shielded from the magnetic field.

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#1. To: Ada (#0)

Could a Solar Storm Send Us back to the Stone Age?

I long for the day.

"It is unfortunately none too well understood that, just as the State has no money of its own, so it has no power of its own. All power it has is what society gives it, plus what it confiscates from time to time on one pretext or another; there is no other source from which State power can be drawn.”

Albert Jay Nock

noone222  posted on  2010-08-10   9:38:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Ada (#0)

One could only hope so. I'd like to see a lot less power wielded by the technocrats.

I'd love nothing more than to see the world wide destruction of every database, and every cell phone in the world for one simple reason. We as human beings are declining and not improving. In fact, the more technology we create, the less we do on any given day.

It is better to be hated for what you are, than loved for what you are not. - Tommy The Mad Artist.

TommyTheMadArtist  posted on  2010-08-10   9:38:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: noone222 (#1)

I long for the day.

Only a fool would wish for such a thing.

PaulCJ  posted on  2010-08-10   9:46:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: PaulCJ (#3) (Edited)

Only a fool would wish for such a thing.

Beats a nuclear winter.

Maybe then the PTB could throw stones instead of nukes !

EDIT: You're quick to cast aspersions for such a mental lightweight.

"It is unfortunately none too well understood that, just as the State has no money of its own, so it has no power of its own. All power it has is what society gives it, plus what it confiscates from time to time on one pretext or another; there is no other source from which State power can be drawn.”

Albert Jay Nock

noone222  posted on  2010-08-10   9:47:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: TommyTheMadArtist, noone222 (#2)

It is a nice fantasy, if you gloss over a lot of stuff. For better or worse, a lot of medical equipment and knowledge is fully electronic these days, losing it all in a zap would put a lot of innocent people in graves. That part, well, it would be nice to avoid if you ask me.

If that could be avoided, it is nice to think about kids all out playing in their yards and streets, people on their front porches chatting with their neighbors and life slowing down to a much more manageable pace. Plus, as mentioned, most government "control" these days is due to modern technology. Without it, they're stuck going door to door on foot, and on those terms, they don't fare so well against an armed society.

"The more artificial taboos and restrictions there are in the world, the more the people are impoverished.... The more that laws and regulations are given prominence, the more thieves and robbers there will be." - Lao Tzu, 6th century BC

SonOfLiberty  posted on  2010-08-10   9:51:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: SonOfLiberty (#5)

It is a nice fantasy, if you gloss over a lot of stuff. For better or worse, a lot of medical equipment and knowledge is fully electronic these days, losing it all in a zap would put a lot of innocent people in graves. That part, well, it would be nice to avoid if you ask me.

The main fact is such a electrical storm would popped circuit breakers across the planet.

Electronic damage would not be a bad as predicted.

Plus those lines back then were unshielded wire exposed to the outside.

PaulCJ  posted on  2010-08-10   9:59:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: PaulCJ (#6)

The main fact is such a electrical storm would popped circuit breakers across the planet.

Yes, of course. But then hard drives and microchips don't have circuit breakers. I don't know which is more sensitive to initial bursts though, breakers or CPU/hard drives. Consider, the energy is hitting all points of the circuit at once, not just traveling up the line to the breaker first.

Electronic damage would not be a bad as predicted.

Probably not.

Plus those lines back then were unshielded wire exposed to the outside.

Heh, well, what shielding they have now is paper thin. You can still put a tuned inductor 75 feet under a large power line and make electricity from the wire emissions alone.

"The more artificial taboos and restrictions there are in the world, the more the people are impoverished.... The more that laws and regulations are given prominence, the more thieves and robbers there will be." - Lao Tzu, 6th century BC

SonOfLiberty  posted on  2010-08-10   10:05:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: SonOfLiberty (#7)

Yes, of course. But then hard drives and microchips don't have circuit breakers. I don't know which is more sensitive to initial bursts though, breakers or CPU/hard drives. Consider, the energy is hitting all points of the circuit at once, not just traveling up the line to the breaker first.

This could actually be tested right now in Alaska. Simply see what happens to computer equipment up there when there is a major electrical storm that causes the aurora borealis.

PaulCJ  posted on  2010-08-10   10:40:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: noone222, 4 (#1)

I long for the day.

Same here. I'd miss things, like AC and heating, but that's the way the titties bounce. It's a small price to pay.

I'd hope it lasts just long enough for us to have time to hang (no electricity needed) and bury the bastards that have the gall to think they are leaders.

We'd rebuild. A blackout like this wouldn't last long. Just long enough to get the job done.

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PSUSA  posted on  2010-08-10   10:40:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: PaulCJ (#8)

The levels of solar storm that cause normal aurora isn't comparable to the "once in a century" thing being mentioned in the article. If you're just getting enough through to light up the sky a bit a night, you're not going to harm some guy's transistor radio. If you have enough to make night time look like day, that's a whole other level. :)

End of the day, who knows? Guess we'll know, if it happens, and not a moment sooner, heh.

"The more artificial taboos and restrictions there are in the world, the more the people are impoverished.... The more that laws and regulations are given prominence, the more thieves and robbers there will be." - Lao Tzu, 6th century BC

SonOfLiberty  posted on  2010-08-10   10:42:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: PSUSA (#9)

Sho-nuff would level the playing field !

"It is unfortunately none too well understood that, just as the State has no money of its own, so it has no power of its own. All power it has is what society gives it, plus what it confiscates from time to time on one pretext or another; there is no other source from which State power can be drawn.”

Albert Jay Nock

noone222  posted on  2010-08-10   11:11:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: noone222 (#1)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-08-10   11:51:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: TommyTheMadArtist (#2)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-08-10   11:52:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: SonOfLiberty (#5)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-08-10   11:54:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: SonOfLiberty (#10) (Edited)

The levels of solar storm that cause normal aurora isn't comparable to the "once in a century" thing being mentioned in the article.

You only say that because my suggested test would prove you wrong.

PaulCJ  posted on  2010-08-10   21:36:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: PaulCJ (#15)

You only say that because my suggested test would prove you wrong.

Oooh, I didn't realize this discussion was a contest. I thought we were just talking, shooting the breeze. My mistake, but you'll have to find another jousting partner, this one didn't even realize he was in a contest of battle. Cheers.

"The more artificial taboos and restrictions there are in the world, the more the people are impoverished.... The more that laws and regulations are given prominence, the more thieves and robbers there will be." - Lao Tzu, 6th century BC

SonOfLiberty  posted on  2010-08-11   8:42:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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