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Title: Women Should Rule the World!
Source: Unclebob's Treehouse
URL Source: [None]
Published: Aug 10, 2010
Author: Bob Wallace
Post Date: 2010-08-10 10:53:53 by Turtle
Keywords: None
Views: 1810
Comments: 46

I think women should rule the world. Now, of course, this can only be done by law, since it goes against human nature, but that’s okay. Human nature, most especially if you’re a leftist, doesn’t matter!

Let’s look at what we’d have to do. First, we’d have to keep men out of high-paying jobs that call for a lot of education. That can be done with Affirmative Action, which essentially means “white men need not apply.”

We’d also have to keep men out of college, which is what is happening these days. Right now there are a lot more women in college. This is a good thing!

Men should only be carpenters (I used to be one), taxi drivers (used to be one), coal miners (nope), stuff like that.

In fact, men shouldn’t be educated at all. They’re awful!! Especially white men, who introduced slavery into the world. (Well, actually that’s not true – white men got rid of slavery, and in record time. But facts don’t matter!)

Men should receive no education at all. Revenge is good, and it doesn’t matter if it’s aimed at the wrong people.

One way to prevent this education is by drugging little boys. I think Ritalin would be a good choice.

Yep, make sure men receive no education, dope them up, prevent them by law from getting educated jobs…and women will be able to rule the world!

Now what kind of world would we have if women ruled it completely and men had absolutely no influence at all, had no education, and were completely at the bottom?

I think the humorist P.J. O’Rourke had a clue with his comment, “Without men, civilization would last until the next oil change.”

Hmmm…let’s see…who invented about 97% of everything in the world? Well, as best as I can remember, European men and their descendents in America. White men!

Now let’s pretend the white race never existed. What kind of shape would the rest of the world be in? Africa would be permanently stuck in 20,000 BC, with everyone living in stick-and-mud huts.

Arabia would be stuck in the 7th Century, courtesy of Islam and Arabs marrying their cousins for the last two thousand years.

China would be about in the 11th or 12th Century.

But let’s concentrate on the United States. If women ruled completely and men had no influence at all, it’d be a great country!

Things would go backward, to some sort of primitive, barely technological society! Tribal and pastoral! It’d be great!

Women can barely invent anything, but so what? A primitive, loving, pastoral tribe in which everyone chipped in and helped change the babies…it’d be wonderful!

Of course, women (and some men) don’t believe this would happen. Somehow – not quite sure how – we’d still have an advanced technological society with big-screen TVs and SUVs and easy high-paying careers, even though men would be so uneducated, stupid, doped up and out of work they couldn’t do anything except drink and lay around.

And of course, women would have all the government jobs, so they can rule.

Women being supported by the government is a good thing, since marriage would collapse, what with men not being able to support a family. So women would have babies without being married or the children having a father’s influence.

In essence, women would be marrying the government. And this is a good thing! Families and fathers are so primitive!

Well, primitive yes, but not primitive like tribal primitive. Some other kind of primitive, like not-needed primitive, like appendixes.

So what if all the women would be unhappy? And the men, too? Since when did happiness ever matter? Revenge is what matters!

And if society didn’t advance and instead went backward, so what? Primitive tribes without dental care are the place to be!

Many women (90%?) are natural socialists, which means they are irrational and ruled by their feelings. I think that’s the reason they’ve always been denied the vote. It’s certainly why so many of them vote Democrat!

Throughout history women have always been the home and the heart (maybe it should be Home and the Heart). Men have always been the rational creative inventing part.

About 40 years ago the brain researcher Paul McLean discovered three structures to the brain: at the bottom, the reptilian complex, on top of that, the limbic system (emotion) and on top of that, the neocortex (reason).

One person called it the Snake brain, the Eve brain, and the Adam brain. But whatever you call it, the rational brain sits on top of the emotional brain and is supposed to have the greatest influence over it -- not the other way around.

It’s not as if men are all reason and women are all emotion. Each sex has a little bit of the other in it, like Jung postulated with the anima/amimus or that Ying/Yang symbol.

If each gender didn’t have a bit of the other in it, we’d never be able to understand each other.

But, heck, so what? Facts don’t matter! Only left-wing socialist/tribal fantasies!

I, for one, welcome our new Eve overlords! All our base belong to them!

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#5. To: farmfriend (#4)

You wish!

"A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools." - Douglas Adams

Turtle  posted on  2010-08-10   11:21:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: farmfriend (#4)

IT doesn't 'think' for me, IT makes strong suggestions.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2010-08-10   11:25:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Jethro Tull (#6)

IT doesn't 'think' for me,

I'll stick with H. Rap Brown.

When asked what a woman's position would be in "the revolution", Brown retorted....prone

WWGPD? - (What Would General Pinochet Do?)

Flintlock  posted on  2010-08-10   11:30:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Jethro Tull, Turtle (#6)

I tend to giggle at the actual meaning behind the "your dick thinks for you!" that women like to chant at every chance.

What does it mean, really?

Does our dork think for us? Well, if it did, there would be no skyscrapers, automobiles, nor even basic medical technology. So that's not what it means, clearly men think, and think deeply and logically when the challenge arises.

So what then? It means, when you get down to it, that men are passionate about women. Women see this as a weakness. Meaning, showing passion for the opposite sex is weakness, and one that they not-so-secretly try not to indulge in.

I'm speaking of those who do the chant in earnest, not 'all women' of course.

This would explain why so many frigid wives are so prone to chant in unison while drinking wine and bashing their husbands "Men are pigs! They think with their dicks!".

Always read between the lines with conventional sayings and you can discern some pretty telling insight into the basis of the saying(s).

"The more artificial taboos and restrictions there are in the world, the more the people are impoverished.... The more that laws and regulations are given prominence, the more thieves and robbers there will be." - Lao Tzu, 6th century BC

SonOfLiberty  posted on  2010-08-10   11:33:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Jethro Tull (#6)

My ex-wife always accused me of letting my little head "think" for me ....

After giving it a little thought I replied ... that's the problem with you women ... nothing to think with !

"It is unfortunately none too well understood that, just as the State has no money of its own, so it has no power of its own. All power it has is what society gives it, plus what it confiscates from time to time on one pretext or another; there is no other source from which State power can be drawn.”

Albert Jay Nock

noone222  posted on  2010-08-10   11:34:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: SonOfLiberty (#8)

Does our dork think for us? Well, if it did, there would be no skyscrapers, automobiles, nor even basic medical technology. So that's not what it means, clearly men think, and think deeply and logically when the challenge arises

I'd like to see the day come when it's taught in school that Europeans (in Europe followed by the U.S.) invented 97% of everything in the world. From Africa -- nothing. The other three percent was contributed by Asians, Asians Indians, and Arabs.

It's bizarre the way women have been brainwashed. It's going to take a long time to undo it.

"A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools." - Douglas Adams

Turtle  posted on  2010-08-10   11:38:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Turtle (#10)

Why wait for schools? We go through this exercise all the time in my home. If you want kids to know, you're going to have to teach kids yourself. Waiting on schools to do right these days is counting on the sun not to rise in the morning.

"The more artificial taboos and restrictions there are in the world, the more the people are impoverished.... The more that laws and regulations are given prominence, the more thieves and robbers there will be." - Lao Tzu, 6th century BC

SonOfLiberty  posted on  2010-08-10   11:44:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: SonOfLiberty (#11)

When I told one girlfriend that blacks have a mean genetic IQ of 85 and they've contributed nothing but music and sports (and degraded both -- rap and Muhammed Ali bringing race, politics and religion into boxing) she burst into tears and said, "That's not true!"

"A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools." - Douglas Adams

Turtle  posted on  2010-08-10   11:53:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: noone222, Jethro Tull (#9)

After giving it a little thought I replied ... that's the problem with you women ... nothing to think with !

LOL


"Every Person born within the limits of the United States, and subject to their jurisdiction, is by virtue of natural law and national law a citizen of the United States. This will not, of course, include persons born in the United States who are foreigners, aliens, who belong to the families of ambassadors or foreign ministers accredited to the Government of the United States, but will include every other class of persons.
Senator Jacob Howard, Co-author of the citizenship clause of the 14th Amendment, 1866.

farmfriend  posted on  2010-08-10   11:56:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: SonOfLiberty, Jethro Tull, Turtle, noone222 (#8)

Can't remember if I posted this on 4um or not. My real view of men.

About Men


"Every Person born within the limits of the United States, and subject to their jurisdiction, is by virtue of natural law and national law a citizen of the United States. This will not, of course, include persons born in the United States who are foreigners, aliens, who belong to the families of ambassadors or foreign ministers accredited to the Government of the United States, but will include every other class of persons.
Senator Jacob Howard, Co-author of the citizenship clause of the 14th Amendment, 1866.

farmfriend  posted on  2010-08-10   11:59:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Turtle (#0)

When you were a kid, did you bang your head on the floor a lot????

Cynicom  posted on  2010-08-10   12:11:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: farmfriend (#14)

Excellent essay - thanks.

The wussification of men, and boys, has gone way, way too far.

Lod  posted on  2010-08-10   12:12:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Cynicom (#15)

When you were a kid, did you bang your head on the floor a lot????

I banged a lot of other kids' heads on the floor!

"A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools." - Douglas Adams

Turtle  posted on  2010-08-10   12:13:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: farmfriend (#14)

About Men

Good read ... someone gets it !

"It is unfortunately none too well understood that, just as the State has no money of its own, so it has no power of its own. All power it has is what society gives it, plus what it confiscates from time to time on one pretext or another; there is no other source from which State power can be drawn.”

Albert Jay Nock

noone222  posted on  2010-08-10   12:13:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Cynicom (#15)

To: Turtle

When you were a kid, did you bang your head on the floor a lot????

No kidding !

"It is unfortunately none too well understood that, just as the State has no money of its own, so it has no power of its own. All power it has is what society gives it, plus what it confiscates from time to time on one pretext or another; there is no other source from which State power can be drawn.”

Albert Jay Nock

noone222  posted on  2010-08-10   12:15:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: noone222, Lod (#18)

Good read ... someone gets it !

LOL thanks


"Every Person born within the limits of the United States, and subject to their jurisdiction, is by virtue of natural law and national law a citizen of the United States. This will not, of course, include persons born in the United States who are foreigners, aliens, who belong to the families of ambassadors or foreign ministers accredited to the Government of the United States, but will include every other class of persons.
Senator Jacob Howard, Co-author of the citizenship clause of the 14th Amendment, 1866.

farmfriend  posted on  2010-08-10   12:15:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: farmfriend (#14)

Yeah, I know you're not anti-male.

It's getting to the point that I'm starting to feel the ol' territorial defense mechanism kick in. It's getting harder and harder not to notice that I (and others like me) are no longer included in most advertisement, that our only role in most popular entertainment is that of a buffoon or the "weak member that constantly needs rescued" or the "eeevil criminal", and that anything positive act we do will have the credit taken by others or be ignored. It's hard not to notice that ads now advertise jobs for "women and minorities" only, and that loans/grants are given to, yes, "women and minority based...whatevers" and nothing else.

Hints here or there, no big deal. When it's all that the culture throws at "us" now, and, well again, it's hard not to notice. And that kind of constant exclusion sets off triggers. And when those triggers start going off with normal men, en masse, when most of us realize that "we" are now all "lone wolves" socially, that portends very badly for society's future. No society thrives long with large populations of excluded and marginalized men.

"The more artificial taboos and restrictions there are in the world, the more the people are impoverished.... The more that laws and regulations are given prominence, the more thieves and robbers there will be." - Lao Tzu, 6th century BC

SonOfLiberty  posted on  2010-08-10   12:17:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: SonOfLiberty (#21)

No society thrives long with large populations of excluded and marginalized men.

Agreed. And in our country's case, those men are well armed.


"Every Person born within the limits of the United States, and subject to their jurisdiction, is by virtue of natural law and national law a citizen of the United States. This will not, of course, include persons born in the United States who are foreigners, aliens, who belong to the families of ambassadors or foreign ministers accredited to the Government of the United States, but will include every other class of persons.
Senator Jacob Howard, Co-author of the citizenship clause of the 14th Amendment, 1866.

farmfriend  posted on  2010-08-10   12:20:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: noone222, Turtle (#19)

No kidding !

It has been obvious for quite some time that the Turtle has gone over the edge.

At one time there were traces of sanity in his writings, no more, alas turtle has gone round the bend.

I do hope that he has never been exposed to procreation, something he never mentions. Lets hope there are NEVER any little turtles.

Cynicom  posted on  2010-08-10   12:20:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Cynicom (#23)

Lets hope there are NEVER any little turtles.

If there would happen to be a couple ... think they'd be "snappers" ?

"It is unfortunately none too well understood that, just as the State has no money of its own, so it has no power of its own. All power it has is what society gives it, plus what it confiscates from time to time on one pretext or another; there is no other source from which State power can be drawn.”

Albert Jay Nock

noone222  posted on  2010-08-10   12:21:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: noone222 (#24)

If there would happen to be a couple ... think they'd be "snappers" ?

Everything turtle knows about gurls, he picked up from a used comic book, given to him by the older boys.

Cynicom  posted on  2010-08-10   12:23:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: SonOfLiberty, Cynicom (#21)

And when those triggers start going off with normal men

My triggers went off 20 years ago.

Turtle is completely, totally sane, and his kids are smarter and better-looking than him, which is really saying something.

"A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools." - Douglas Adams

Turtle  posted on  2010-08-10   12:25:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Cynicom (#25)

Everything turtle knows

I bozoed him long ago ... I couldn't take it.

"It is unfortunately none too well understood that, just as the State has no money of its own, so it has no power of its own. All power it has is what society gives it, plus what it confiscates from time to time on one pretext or another; there is no other source from which State power can be drawn.”

Albert Jay Nock

noone222  posted on  2010-08-10   12:27:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: farmfriend (#22)

Agreed. And in our country's case, those men are well armed.

Exactly. And not only that, but most are educated, many highly educated. Despite the faux narrative being put forward that men are oblivious idiots, the reality is vastly different. I suspect that the patience is starting to wear thin.

I know that when looking at company advertising, if a company doesn't feel the need to include "me" in its ads (consistent exclusion, not just a one-off add), then it doesn't need my money. It is declaring that I don't exist, so I feel obliged to make that dream a reality for it. I know when even viewing movie trailers whether "I" am there as a "criminal/idiot" almost immediately. I refuse to see those movies, no matter how "cute" or "really cool" or what have you. It would be interesting to convince other men to take such a strategy in the market.

"The more artificial taboos and restrictions there are in the world, the more the people are impoverished.... The more that laws and regulations are given prominence, the more thieves and robbers there will be." - Lao Tzu, 6th century BC

SonOfLiberty  posted on  2010-08-10   12:28:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: Turtle (#26)

My triggers went off 20 years ago.

Mine started in the mid 1990's in earnest. I'm more speaking of the guy who is too busy working to notice, your Joe Sixpack.

Turtle is completely, totally sane, and his kids are smarter and better-looking than him, which is really saying something.

Well, truth be told, I find your sense of humor great. It's amazing to me how many can't discern tongue-in-cheek, or other forms of humor, and miss out on the gems of wisdom you plant between the fertile rows of sarcasm. For most, "the Internets Be Serious Bizness! (tm)", heh.

"The more artificial taboos and restrictions there are in the world, the more the people are impoverished.... The more that laws and regulations are given prominence, the more thieves and robbers there will be." - Lao Tzu, 6th century BC

SonOfLiberty  posted on  2010-08-10   12:31:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: SonOfLiberty (#28)

Despite the faux narrative being put forward that men are oblivious idiots, the reality is vastly different.

Way back in the Archie Bunker era I determined that white males were being denegrated as part of an agenda that was at the same time promoting minorities as their superiors ... like black or female judges ruling over stupid white male criminals.

Then came Maury Povitch and others that debased the entire human race as less than dogs.

"It is unfortunately none too well understood that, just as the State has no money of its own, so it has no power of its own. All power it has is what society gives it, plus what it confiscates from time to time on one pretext or another; there is no other source from which State power can be drawn.”

Albert Jay Nock

noone222  posted on  2010-08-10   12:36:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Turtle (#0)

A man chases a woman until she catches him.

Higher rates of SGA but greater chances of survival within birth weight-for-gestation groups and lower energy expenditure during puberty in African American than non-Hispanic white girls support the possibility that African American girls are born with a lower energy expenditure than non-Hispanic white girls.

Prefrontal Vortex  posted on  2010-08-10   12:37:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: noone222, SonOfLiberty (#30)

Then came Maury Povitch and others that debased the entire human race as less than dogs.

I prefer science shows though I must admit I do like the new show Dual Survival. You got to admire the one guy for living what he preaches.


"Every Person born within the limits of the United States, and subject to their jurisdiction, is by virtue of natural law and national law a citizen of the United States. This will not, of course, include persons born in the United States who are foreigners, aliens, who belong to the families of ambassadors or foreign ministers accredited to the Government of the United States, but will include every other class of persons.
Senator Jacob Howard, Co-author of the citizenship clause of the 14th Amendment, 1866.

farmfriend  posted on  2010-08-10   12:39:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: noone222 (#30)

I was a bit too young during the first running of All In The Family to pick up on anything. Besides, The Dukes Of Hazard (and The Rockford Files, and Quincy, etc) and other shows showed a completely pro-guy view most of the time, so it just didn't register to my 10 year old mind. What's funny, to me anyway, is that on viewing today, Archie Bunker comes across as completely vindicated, wise, sage and almost totally a true, good guy. I'd readily have a beer with the guy. It's true he was meant to portray the opposite, but nowadays I can't say he said/did much that was wrong. You're right, at the time it was a true start of the "tear down traditional men" fight.

"The more artificial taboos and restrictions there are in the world, the more the people are impoverished.... The more that laws and regulations are given prominence, the more thieves and robbers there will be." - Lao Tzu, 6th century BC

SonOfLiberty  posted on  2010-08-10   12:40:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: farmfriend (#32)

I must admit I do like the new show Dual Survival.

My son's Survival Adventure Camp (seriously, that was its name) featured the man's man on that show (not the hippy guy). He showed up, went through an entire day with the kids showing them plant identification, what bugs you could eat, all that. I have no idea who he is, I'm going on my son's description of him and the show along, lol.

The camp is quite popular with the boys around these parts. Great fun.

"The more artificial taboos and restrictions there are in the world, the more the people are impoverished.... The more that laws and regulations are given prominence, the more thieves and robbers there will be." - Lao Tzu, 6th century BC

SonOfLiberty  posted on  2010-08-10   12:43:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: farmfriend (#32)

I prefer science shows though I must admit I do like the new show Dual Survival. You got to admire the one guy for living what he preaches.

noone222 <---- No TV HERE !

"It is unfortunately none too well understood that, just as the State has no money of its own, so it has no power of its own. All power it has is what society gives it, plus what it confiscates from time to time on one pretext or another; there is no other source from which State power can be drawn.”

Albert Jay Nock

noone222  posted on  2010-08-10   12:45:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: SonOfLiberty (#33)

What's funny, to me anyway, is that on viewing today, Archie Bunker comes across as completely vindicated, wise, sage and almost totally a true, good guy.

Yes sir ... ya gotta point there !

Stifle Edith !!! Ha hahahaha !

"It is unfortunately none too well understood that, just as the State has no money of its own, so it has no power of its own. All power it has is what society gives it, plus what it confiscates from time to time on one pretext or another; there is no other source from which State power can be drawn.”

Albert Jay Nock

noone222  posted on  2010-08-10   12:47:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: SonOfLiberty (#34)

featured the man's man on that show (not the hippy guy).

Yeah I like him as well.


"Every Person born within the limits of the United States, and subject to their jurisdiction, is by virtue of natural law and national law a citizen of the United States. This will not, of course, include persons born in the United States who are foreigners, aliens, who belong to the families of ambassadors or foreign ministers accredited to the Government of the United States, but will include every other class of persons.
Senator Jacob Howard, Co-author of the citizenship clause of the 14th Amendment, 1866.

farmfriend  posted on  2010-08-10   13:01:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: noone222 (#35)

http://dsc.discovery.com/tv/dual-survival/


"Every Person born within the limits of the United States, and subject to their jurisdiction, is by virtue of natural law and national law a citizen of the United States. This will not, of course, include persons born in the United States who are foreigners, aliens, who belong to the families of ambassadors or foreign ministers accredited to the Government of the United States, but will include every other class of persons.
Senator Jacob Howard, Co-author of the citizenship clause of the 14th Amendment, 1866.

farmfriend  posted on  2010-08-10   13:03:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: SonOfLiberty (#34)

Gotta love the hippy guys choice of book titles though.

98.6 Degrees: The Art of Keeping Your Ass Alive


"Every Person born within the limits of the United States, and subject to their jurisdiction, is by virtue of natural law and national law a citizen of the United States. This will not, of course, include persons born in the United States who are foreigners, aliens, who belong to the families of ambassadors or foreign ministers accredited to the Government of the United States, but will include every other class of persons.
Senator Jacob Howard, Co-author of the citizenship clause of the 14th Amendment, 1866.

farmfriend  posted on  2010-08-10   13:06:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: Turtle (#0)

let’s concentrate on the United States. If women ruled completely and men had no influence at all, it’d be a great country!

Already a done deal.

But sorry beotches, nothing lasts forever and we will soon be dragging your sorry assses across the cave floor by the hair very, very soon.

Lysander_Spooner  posted on  2010-08-10   14:20:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: Turtle (#17)

I banged a lot of other kids' heads on the floor!

What seemed like every christmas my older brother would crack his head open at grandma's house and have to go to the ER for stitches, of course wrestling and horse play with his younger brother never had anything to do with it, I tell ya' I'm innocent !!

Lysander_Spooner  posted on  2010-08-10   14:26:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: farmfriend (#14)

it seems that men are feminized to the point they don't like 'scenes'. i have had more than 1 broad call the cops on me contending that i did something unlawful, lol. i wait for the cops & they take my side. it seems everyone is a panty waist ninny afraid of assertiveness.wtf, odd times. the most ironic part is that i am actually a very reasonable gentleman. ( but then again that's what michael douglas character in falling down thought too. more than 1 person compared me to him when that classic film came out. lol!

"if I have all faith so as to move mountains, but do not have love, I am nothing." 1 Cor 12:31—13:13
"I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him"
George W, Bush, 3/13/02 http://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html

Artisan  posted on  2010-08-10   18:38:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: Artisan (#42)

LOL


"Every Person born within the limits of the United States, and subject to their jurisdiction, is by virtue of natural law and national law a citizen of the United States. This will not, of course, include persons born in the United States who are foreigners, aliens, who belong to the families of ambassadors or foreign ministers accredited to the Government of the United States, but will include every other class of persons.
Senator Jacob Howard, Co-author of the citizenship clause of the 14th Amendment, 1866.

farmfriend  posted on  2010-08-10   19:41:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: farmfriend (#14)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-08-10   20:01:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: Eric Stratton (#44)

Agreed


"Every Person born within the limits of the United States, and subject to their jurisdiction, is by virtue of natural law and national law a citizen of the United States. This will not, of course, include persons born in the United States who are foreigners, aliens, who belong to the families of ambassadors or foreign ministers accredited to the Government of the United States, but will include every other class of persons.
Senator Jacob Howard, Co-author of the citizenship clause of the 14th Amendment, 1866.

farmfriend  posted on  2010-08-10   20:06:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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