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Title: MEXICO - Vicente Fox has solution for drug cartels: "LEGALIZE DRUGS"
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Bloomberg
URL Source: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2010- ... on-as-way-to-end-violence.html
Published: Aug 10, 2010
Author: By Jonathan J. Levin and Jens Erik Gould
Post Date: 2010-08-10 11:26:55 by HAPPY2BME-4UM
Keywords: SB1070
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Former Mexican President Vicente Fox said his country should legalize the production and sale of drugs in order to curb rising cartel-related violence. Legalizing narcotics would curtail funding to organized crime groups, who are using profits from the drug trade to consolidate power, Fox wrote yesterday on his personal website. “Radical prohibition strategies have never worked,” Fox said. “The cost of the fight against organized crime, and in particular narcotics trafficking, has been enormous in our country.” The drug war has killed 28,000 people in Mexico since late 2006, when President Felipe Calderon entered office vowing to take on the cartels, according to data from the government intelligence agency, known as CISEN. That’s keeping tourists away and limiting foreign direct investment, Fox said. Fox said in a July 28 interview with Bloomberg Television that the U.S. as well as Mexico were responsible for the violence. “What is happening is that this huge market of the United States in drug consumption, the largest in the world, is generating the weapons that are sold to Mexican cartels, and is generating the money that is laundered in the United States and brought to Mexico,” Fox said. Arms Trafficking More than 90 percent of weapons used in violent crimes in Mexico are brought in illegally from the U.S., according to the U.S. Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms & Explosives. President Barack Obama vowed during a visit to Mexico last year that the U.S. would take more aggressive steps to help the country battle drug cartels by urging the Senate to ratify a decade-old treaty on arms trafficking in Latin America. Calderon, a member of Fox’s National Action Party, said last week that he was open to debate on the legalization issue, even as he said he was personally opposed to the idea because it represented a health risk to society. Legalization measures have worked in other countries, which use new taxes on the products to finance addiction recovery programs, Fox said. In 2009, Mexico decriminalized possession of small amounts of drugs including marijuana, cocaine and heroin.
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#2. To: HAPPY2BME-4UM (#0)
OMG...a smart Mexican. How did that happen?
"A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools." - Douglas Adams
SEALING THE BORDER IS THE ONLY SOLUTION FOR THE U.S. Legalizing heroin, hashish, marijuana, meth, crank, LSD, and all other addictive, destructive drugs in the US will only ACCELERATE our demise. Mexico will just go further down into the hell hole they already are once they legalize drugs. Over half the government there already profits form the sale of narcotics to the US.
U.S. Constitution - Article IV, Section 4: NO BORDERS + NO LAWS = NO COUNTRY
And when that does not stop the flow of drugs into the U.S? When the whole Mexican border looks like Amsterdam what will be your solution then? Well let's see, since you already advocate dissolving the Bill of Rights in the name of the War on Drugs, my hypothesis is that you will demand that Americans be prohibited from traveling to Mexico and to ensure compliance you will advocate that the sealed border you want be turned into our own version of the Berlin Wall. After all, it's for the children. Legalizing heroin, hashish, marijuana, meth, crank, LSD, and all other addictive, destructive drugs in the US will only ACCELERATE our demise. That's right, it's the drugs that's causing the downfall of America. It has nothing to do with politicians ignoring the Constitution. It has nothing to to with judges turning the constitution on its head with their rulings. It has nothing to do with the police state infrastructure being implemented in the name of both the war on terror and the war on drugs. It has nothing to do with the complete disregard of the Bill of Rights. It has nothing to do with our interventionist foreign policy. It has nothing to do with rampant police abuse. Nope. It's all about the drugs. Over half the government there already profits form the sale of narcotics to the US. Yeah, it's a shame they don't act more like our government which is squeaky clean and incorruptible. You are the perfect example that you can't fix stupid.
"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Director, CIA 1973–1976 Nothing in the State, everything outside the State, everything against the State - Jan Lester, Escape From Leviathan "When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves in the course of time a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that justifies it." - Frederic Bastiat Good order results spontaneously when things are let alone. - Zhuangzi
I propose you move to Mexico where you will feel more at home and comfortable. Didn't they just legalize same-sex marriage? You may find that to your liking also.
U.S. Constitution - Article IV, Section 4: NO BORDERS + NO LAWS = NO COUNTRY
To: F.A. Hayek Fan I propose you move to Mexico where you will blah blah blah... You just can't win an argument with someone using that kind of logic.
Democrats don't mind war as long as they can have big government. Republicans don't mind big government as long as they can have war.
The sympathizers wanting to legalize drugs are usually the ones creating the market for them. SHOE - > FIT
U.S. Constitution - Article IV, Section 4: NO BORDERS + NO LAWS = NO COUNTRY
As I said you can't fix stupid. Either you, your children and grandchildren will get yours in the end. You seem to think that the police state you advocate in the name of the war on drugs will not affect you but you are wrong.
"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Director, CIA 1973–1976 Nothing in the State, everything outside the State, everything against the State - Jan Lester, Escape From Leviathan "When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves in the course of time a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that justifies it." - Frederic Bastiat Good order results spontaneously when things are let alone. - Zhuangzi
SHOE - > FIT LOL! Every time you open your mouth you show yourself to be an idiot incapable of defending your beliefs.
"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Director, CIA 1973–1976 Nothing in the State, everything outside the State, everything against the State - Jan Lester, Escape From Leviathan "When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves in the course of time a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that justifies it." - Frederic Bastiat Good order results spontaneously when things are let alone. - Zhuangzi
=============================== As I said, if you want to support dopers, move to a country where doping is openly legal. What is complicated about that?
U.S. Constitution - Article IV, Section 4: NO BORDERS + NO LAWS = NO COUNTRY
================================================ What is your favorite recreational drug and how often do you fire up with it? Meth? Crack? Mescaline? Weed? Hash? Or do you mainline? Tell us more.
U.S. Constitution - Article IV, Section 4: NO BORDERS + NO LAWS = NO COUNTRY
Nope. He reminds me of Blackhorse of LP fame who advocates a national ID card. Just like this yahoo thinks that everyone against the WOD is a druggie, blackhorse makes the claim that if you are against a national id card that you are either an illegal alien, hire illegal aliens or are sympathetic to illegal aliens. The fact is that both happy and blackhorse are statists who enjoy the feel of the jackboot on their neck.
"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Director, CIA 1973–1976 Nothing in the State, everything outside the State, everything against the State - Jan Lester, Escape From Leviathan "When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves in the course of time a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that justifies it." - Frederic Bastiat Good order results spontaneously when things are let alone. - Zhuangzi
Meth? Crack? Mescaline? Weed? Hash? Or do you mainline? Tell us more. My favorite recreational drug is caffeine. I drink approximately a pot of coffee per day. I haven't smoked pot since the early 80's and I've never done any of the other drugs you list.
"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Director, CIA 1973–1976 Nothing in the State, everything outside the State, everything against the State - Jan Lester, Escape From Leviathan "When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves in the course of time a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that justifies it." - Frederic Bastiat Good order results spontaneously when things are let alone. - Zhuangzi
What is complicated about that? Please cite to me the exact and specific Constitutional authority the U.S. government (Federal) has to prohibit drugs. Further, explain to me, in great detail, how it was necessary to pass a full Constitutional amendment (now repealed) to prevent people from putting alcohol in their bodies while it is not necessary to do the same for other intoxicating substances, hence the "war" on drugs? Thanks. Fact is, it is illegal to make drugs illegal under the Constitution, except via Constitutional amendment. As it stands, drug warriors are acting contrary to the Constitutional and their laws are, de facto illegal and in defiance to the long cherished concept of rule of law.
"The more artificial taboos and restrictions there are in the world, the more the people are impoverished.... The more that laws and regulations are given prominence, the more thieves and robbers there will be." - Lao Tzu, 6th century BC
What is complicated about that? It has nothing to do with supporting dopers and everything to do with the abuse of the Constitution in general and the Bill of Rights in particular. The abuse of the Constitution in the name of your WOD has been thoroughly documented. Is it that you are ignorant of these abuses or is it that you do not care because you believe the ends justify the means?
"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Director, CIA 1973–1976 Nothing in the State, everything outside the State, everything against the State - Jan Lester, Escape From Leviathan "When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves in the course of time a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that justifies it." - Frederic Bastiat Good order results spontaneously when things are let alone. - Zhuangzi
DOPERS UNITE!
U.S. Constitution - Article IV, Section 4: NO BORDERS + NO LAWS = NO COUNTRY
What is complicated about that? Please cite to me the exact and specific Constitutional authority the U.S. government (Federal) has to prohibit drugs. Further, explain to me, in great detail, how it was necessary to pass a full Constitutional amendment (now repealed) to prevent people from putting alcohol in their bodies while it is not necessary to do the same for other intoxicating substances, hence the "war" on drugs? Thanks. Fact is, it is illegal to make drugs illegal under the Constitution, except via Constitutional amendment. As it stands, drug warriors are acting contrary to the Constitutional and their laws are, de facto illegal and in defiance to the long cherished concept of rule of law. Good luck with getting any kind of answer from him. He normally ignores questions such as this. I have come to the conclusion that he ignores them because he knows the harm the WOD has done to the Constitution but his fear of drugs is such that he doesn't give a shit.
"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Director, CIA 1973–1976 Nothing in the State, everything outside the State, everything against the State - Jan Lester, Escape From Leviathan "When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves in the course of time a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that justifies it." - Frederic Bastiat Good order results spontaneously when things are let alone. - Zhuangzi
Funny how crooks like Fox gets "Smart" after they have no power. F*ck him, and the c*nts like him. Just outlaw Gunverment, problem solved.
Well this doper will one day soon be prescribing drugs to patients. So put that in your pipe and smoke it.
"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Director, CIA 1973–1976 Nothing in the State, everything outside the State, everything against the State - Jan Lester, Escape From Leviathan "When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves in the course of time a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that justifies it." - Frederic Bastiat Good order results spontaneously when things are let alone. - Zhuangzi
============================================= Once you get your license, learn early how to raid the pharmacy and massage prescriptions with extra pills. That way you can make extra enough money to get the hell out of the country where you belong.
U.S. Constitution - Article IV, Section 4: NO BORDERS + NO LAWS = NO COUNTRY
Sounds Grande to me when do we begin !?
That way you can make extra enough money to get the hell out of the country where you belong. Any time you think you're man enough to remove me from this country, you just let me know and we'll meet and talk about it.
"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Director, CIA 1973–1976 Nothing in the State, everything outside the State, everything against the State - Jan Lester, Escape From Leviathan "When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves in the course of time a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that justifies it." - Frederic Bastiat Good order results spontaneously when things are let alone. - Zhuangzi
The only thing you have any business getting a license in is a dog catcher, used car salesman, or politician. With your mindset, you have absolutely no business being in a position to prescribe clinical drugs to human beings, let alone dogs or cars. What you could do though is become a personal script filler for the obama white house. You'd fit in like a glove.
U.S. Constitution - Article IV, Section 4: NO BORDERS + NO LAWS = NO COUNTRY
Incredibly, I am finding there is a large number of "CONSERVATIVES" who are unable to differentiate the wholesale destruction on a society that the opiate and hallucinogenic drugs have as compared to alcohol. These people need to do some research on what has happened to Europe since these drugs have been decriminalized. Google drug addiction in Sweden, Holland, and Scandinavia where the governments openly distribute syringes and drugs to heroin and meth addicts.
U.S. Constitution - Article IV, Section 4: NO BORDERS + NO LAWS = NO COUNTRY
With your mindset, you have absolutely no business being in a position to prescribe clinical drugs to human beings, let alone dogs or cars. What you could do though is become a personal script filler for the obama white house. You'd fit in like a glove. And yet you have no say in the matter do you? LOL! Poor little impotent drug warrior.
"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Director, CIA 1973–1976 Nothing in the State, everything outside the State, everything against the State - Jan Lester, Escape From Leviathan "When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves in the course of time a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that justifies it." - Frederic Bastiat Good order results spontaneously when things are let alone. - Zhuangzi
These people need to do some research on what has happened to Europe since these drugs have been decriminalized. Google drug addiction in Sweden, Holland, and Scandinavia where the governments openly distribute syringes and drugs to heroin and meth addicts. According to this link and this link Sweden has some of the toughest drug laws in Europe. They are also tougher than the drug laws here in the United States. In the United States you can buy syringes without a prescription in 39 states. Every state in the union also gives drugs to heroin addicts in the form of methadone clinics. By the way brainchild, Scandinavia is not a country, it is a region. A region that includes Sweden. Therefore you have, in effect, named Sweden twice. So Sweden has tougher drug laws than the United States and even theirs aren't good enough for you. I can't help but wonder just how much power you are willing to give the government in your crusade to live in history's very first drug free society. Neocons want to disregard the Constitution in the name of the War on Terror and people like you want to disregard it in the name of the War on Drugs. You are two peas in a pod.
"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Director, CIA 1973–1976 Nothing in the State, everything outside the State, everything against the State - Jan Lester, Escape From Leviathan "When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves in the course of time a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that justifies it." - Frederic Bastiat Good order results spontaneously when things are let alone. - Zhuangzi
Which one do you plan to get hooked on first once they're legal?
"The people in power will not disappear voluntarily, giving flowers to the cops just isn't going to work. This thinking is fostered by the establishment; they like nothing better than love and nonviolence. The only way I like to see cops given flowers is in a flower pot from a high window.” - William S Burroughs
That's funny. Do you support the Second Amendment? If so, using your logic I could claim you're planning an imminent shooting.
"The people in power will not disappear voluntarily, giving flowers to the cops just isn't going to work. This thinking is fostered by the establishment; they like nothing better than love and nonviolence. The only way I like to see cops given flowers is in a flower pot from a high window.” - William S Burroughs
You really need to hook up with F.A. Hayek Fan. Once he gets his license, both of you can overdose together.
U.S. Constitution - Article IV, Section 4: NO BORDERS + NO LAWS = NO COUNTRY
Hey Dak, I think we got us a real live drug dealer here. He's peddling the WOD so that he can continue selling drugs to children instead of getting a real job.
"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Director, CIA 1973–1976 Nothing in the State, everything outside the State, everything against the State - Jan Lester, Escape From Leviathan "When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves in the course of time a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that justifies it." - Frederic Bastiat Good order results spontaneously when things are let alone. - Zhuangzi
I'm with Fox on this one.
Meth? Crack? Mescaline? Weed? Hash? Or do you mainline? Tell us more. Happy, I don't speak for anyone but myself but those of us who disagree with the insane war on drugs and drug laws in general are not all dopers. I take the medicine that my doctor prescribes for me and I drink a beer once in a while. But the reason I am against Prohibition is that it does not work and there is no authority for it in the Constitution. The Constitution can be amended to allow it--it was done before with alcohol and we have all seen how that worked out--but they just pass laws in total disregard of the Constitution and their oaths. If they can outlaw things you don't care for today in violation of the Constitution they can also outlaw things you do like tomorrow. Something to think about.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. He (Gordon Duff) also implies that forcibly removing Obama, a Constitution-hating, on-the-down-low, crackhead Communist, is an attack on America, Mom, and apple pie. I swear these military people are worse than useless. Just look around at the condition of the country and tell me if they have fulfilled their oaths to protect the nation from all enemies foreign and domestic. Ditto...some people preach freedom, as long as THEY get to decide what someone's free to do.
I'm surrounded
U.S. Constitution - Article IV, Section 4: NO BORDERS + NO LAWS = NO COUNTRY
LOL! That was a good one.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. He (Gordon Duff) also implies that forcibly removing Obama, a Constitution-hating, on-the-down-low, crackhead Communist, is an attack on America, Mom, and apple pie. I swear these military people are worse than useless. Just look around at the condition of the country and tell me if they have fulfilled their oaths to protect the nation from all enemies foreign and domestic. great tag!
That's right simpleton. Everyone that doesn't agree with you is a doper.
"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Director, CIA 1973–1976 Nothing in the State, everything outside the State, everything against the State - Jan Lester, Escape From Leviathan "When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves in the course of time a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that justifies it." - Frederic Bastiat Good order results spontaneously when things are let alone. - Zhuangzi
I tried that line of thinking with him to and all I got for my troubles is that I'm a doper. He's a statist. If you read the whole thread he bitches about Sweden's drug laws however, after doing some research I found that Sweden's drug laws are actually harsher than the laws here in the US. So a legitimate question to ask is if Sweden's harsher drug laws aren't good enough for him, just how far does he want government to go in order to implement his drug free utopia? Of course he refuses to answer because (IMHO) the answer is that he would have us all living in Pol Pot's Cambodia if that's what he thought it would take.
"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Director, CIA 1973–1976 Nothing in the State, everything outside the State, everything against the State - Jan Lester, Escape From Leviathan "When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves in the course of time a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that justifies it." - Frederic Bastiat Good order results spontaneously when things are let alone. - Zhuangzi
At the end of the day all you can do is try your best and if you do that that is all anyone can reasonably expect. I try to explain things to people the best way I know how but I realize that I won't reach everyone no matter how good I think the explanation is. None of us can reach everyone and not everyone will accept the fact that the (federal) government has no business whatsoever outlawing drugs. What drugs people should take, or not take, is a matter best left between them and their doctor so long as they aren't hurting other people. And there are already penalties for that without an insane (not to mention insanely expensive) and useless war on a commodity.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. He (Gordon Duff) also implies that forcibly removing Obama, a Constitution-hating, on-the-down-low, crackhead Communist, is an attack on America, Mom, and apple pie. I swear these military people are worse than useless. Just look around at the condition of the country and tell me if they have fulfilled their oaths to protect the nation from all enemies foreign and domestic. Happy, don't you think it's the profit motive that keeps the drug traffick business going? Perhaps decriminalizing drugs might be a solution that would work to lower the abuse rather than increase it.
Well according to happy, I should not even be allowed to be a doctor because I am against the WOD. LOL! He's f4um's own little Adolph.
"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Director, CIA 1973–1976 Nothing in the State, everything outside the State, everything against the State - Jan Lester, Escape From Leviathan "When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves in the course of time a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that justifies it." - Frederic Bastiat Good order results spontaneously when things are let alone. - Zhuangzi
I'm against it too. I'll take 100 Tramadol asap. ahaha.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. He (Gordon Duff) also implies that forcibly removing Obama, a Constitution-hating, on-the-down-low, crackhead Communist, is an attack on America, Mom, and apple pie. I swear these military people are worse than useless. Just look around at the condition of the country and tell me if they have fulfilled their oaths to protect the nation from all enemies foreign and domestic.
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#3. To: Turtle (#2)
#4. To: HAPPY2BME-4UM (#3)
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SEALING THE BORDER IS THE ONLY SOLUTION FOR THE U.S.
#5. To: F.A. Hayek Fan (#4)
#6. To: F.A. Hayek Fan (#5)
On 2010-08-10 13:34:31, HAPPY2BME-4UM wrote:
#7. To: PnbC (#6)
#8. To: HAPPY2BME-4UM (#5)
I propose you move to Mexico where you will feel more at home and comfortable. Didn't they just legalize same-sex marriage? You may find that to your liking also.
#9. To: HAPPY2BME-4UM (#7)
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The sympathizers wanting to legalize drugs are usually the ones creating the market for them.
#10. To: F.A. Hayek Fan (#8)
You seem to think that the police state you advocate in the name of the war on drugs will not affect you but you are wrong.
#11. To: F.A. Hayek Fan (#9)
Every time you open your mouth you show yourself to be an idiot incapable of defending your beliefs.
#12. To: PnbC (#6)
You just can't win an argument with someone using that kind of logic.
#13. To: HAPPY2BME-4UM (#11)
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What is your favorite recreational drug and how often do you fire up with it?
#14. To: HAPPY2BME-4UM (#10)
As I said, if you want to support dopers, move to a country where doping is openly legal.
#15. To: HAPPY2BME-4UM (#10)
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As I said, if you want to support dopers, move to a country where doping is openly legal.
#16. To: F.A. Hayek Fan (#15)
#17. To: SonOfLiberty (#14)
As I said, if you want to support dopers, move to a country where doping is openly legal.
#18. To: HAPPY2BME-4UM (#0)
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#19. To: HAPPY2BME-4UM (#16)
DOPERS UNITE!
#20. To: F.A. Hayek Fan (#19)
Well this doper will one day soon be prescribing drugs to patients. So put that in your pipe and smoke it.
#21. To: HAPPY2BME-4UM (#20)
NO BORDERS + NO LAWS = NO COUNTRY
#22. To: HAPPY2BME-4UM (#20)
Once you get your license, learn early how to raid the pharmacy and massage prescriptions with extra pills.
#23. To: F.A. Hayek Fan (#22)
#24. To: All (#0)
#25. To: HAPPY2BME-4UM (#23)
The only thing you have any business getting a license in is a dog catcher, used car salesman, or politician.
#26. To: HAPPY2BME-4UM, all (#24)
Incredibly, I am finding there is a large number of "CONSERVATIVES" who are unable to differentiate the wholesale destruction on a society that the opiate and hallucinogenic drugs have as compared to alcohol.
#27. To: HAPPY2BME-4UM (#3)
Legalizing heroin, hashish, marijuana, meth, crank, LSD, and all other addictive, destructive drugs in the US will only ACCELERATE our demise.
#28. To: HAPPY2BME-4UM (#7)
The sympathizers wanting to legalize drugs are usually the ones creating the market for them.
#29. To: Dakmar, F.A. Hayek Fan (#27)
#30. To: HAPPY2BME-4UM, Dakmar (#29)
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You really need to hook up with F.A. Hayek Fan. Once he gets his license, both of you can overdose together.
#31. To: HAPPY2BME-4UM (#0)
#32. To: HAPPY2BME-4UM (#11)
What is your favorite recreational drug and how often do you fire up with it?
Lord Acton
OsamaBinGoldstein posted on 2010-05-25 9:39:59 ET (2 images) Reply Trace
#33. To: Jethro Tull (#31)
#34. To: Jethro Tull (#31)
#35. To: Dakmar, Quote of the Day (#27)
Which one do you plan to get hooked on first once they're legal?
Lord Acton
OsamaBinGoldstein posted on 2010-05-25 9:39:59 ET (2 images) Reply Trace
#36. To: PnbC (#6)
Democrats don't mind war as long as they can have big government. Republicans don't mind big government as long as they can have war.
#37. To: HAPPY2BME-4UM (#34)
I'm surrounded
#38. To: James Deffenbach (#32)
Happy, I don't speak for anyone but myself but those of us who disagree with the insane war on drugs and drug laws in general are not all dopers. I take the medicine that my doctor prescribes for me and I drink a beer once in a while. But the reason I am against Prohibition is that it does not work and there is no authority for it in the Constitution. The Constitution can be amended to allow it--it was done before with alcohol and we have all seen how that worked out--but they just pass laws in total disregard of the Constitution and their oaths. If they can outlaw things you don't care for today in violation of the Constitution they can also outlaw things you do like tomorrow. Something to think about.
#39. To: F.A. Hayek Fan (#38)
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I tried that line of thinking with him to and all I got for my troubles is that I'm a doper.
Lord Acton
OsamaBinGoldstein posted on 2010-05-25 9:39:59 ET (2 images) Reply Trace
#40. To: HAPPY2BME-4UM (#34)
#41. To: James Deffenbach (#39)
What drugs people should take, or not take, is a matter best left between them and their doctor so long as they aren't hurting other people.
#42. To: F.A. Hayek Fan (#41)
Well according to happy, I should not even be allowed to be a doctor because I am against the WOD.
Lord Acton
OsamaBinGoldstein posted on 2010-05-25 9:39:59 ET (2 images) Reply Trace
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