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Title: MEXICO - Vicente Fox has solution for drug cartels: "LEGALIZE DRUGS"
Source: Bloomberg
URL Source: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2010- ... on-as-way-to-end-violence.html
Published: Aug 10, 2010
Author: By Jonathan J. Levin and Jens Erik Gould
Post Date: 2010-08-10 11:26:55 by HAPPY2BME-4UM
Keywords: SB1070
Views: 1021
Comments: 100

Mexico Ex-President Fox Calls for Drug Legalization

Former Mexican President Vicente Fox said his country should legalize the production and sale of drugs in order to curb rising cartel-related violence.

Legalizing narcotics would curtail funding to organized crime groups, who are using profits from the drug trade to consolidate power, Fox wrote yesterday on his personal website.

“Radical prohibition strategies have never worked,” Fox said. “The cost of the fight against organized crime, and in particular narcotics trafficking, has been enormous in our country.”

The drug war has killed 28,000 people in Mexico since late 2006, when President Felipe Calderon entered office vowing to take on the cartels, according to data from the government intelligence agency, known as CISEN. That’s keeping tourists away and limiting foreign direct investment, Fox said.

Fox said in a July 28 interview with Bloomberg Television that the U.S. as well as Mexico were responsible for the violence.

“What is happening is that this huge market of the United States in drug consumption, the largest in the world, is generating the weapons that are sold to Mexican cartels, and is generating the money that is laundered in the United States and brought to Mexico,” Fox said.

Arms Trafficking

More than 90 percent of weapons used in violent crimes in Mexico are brought in illegally from the U.S., according to the U.S. Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms & Explosives.

President Barack Obama vowed during a visit to Mexico last year that the U.S. would take more aggressive steps to help the country battle drug cartels by urging the Senate to ratify a decade-old treaty on arms trafficking in Latin America.

Calderon, a member of Fox’s National Action Party, said last week that he was open to debate on the legalization issue, even as he said he was personally opposed to the idea because it represented a health risk to society.

Legalization measures have worked in other countries, which use new taxes on the products to finance addiction recovery programs, Fox said.

In 2009, Mexico decriminalized possession of small amounts of drugs including marijuana, cocaine and heroin.

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#2. To: HAPPY2BME-4UM (#0)

OMG...a smart Mexican. How did that happen?

Turtle  posted on  2010-08-10   11:31:29 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Turtle (#2)

SEALING THE BORDER IS THE ONLY SOLUTION FOR THE U.S.

Legalizing heroin, hashish, marijuana, meth, crank, LSD, and all other addictive, destructive drugs in the US will only ACCELERATE our demise.

Mexico will just go further down into the hell hole they already are once they legalize drugs.

Over half the government there already profits form the sale of narcotics to the US.

HAPPY2BME-4UM  posted on  2010-08-10   11:40:35 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: HAPPY2BME-4UM (#3) (Edited)

SEALING THE BORDER IS THE ONLY SOLUTION FOR THE U.S.

And when that does not stop the flow of drugs into the U.S? When the whole Mexican border looks like Amsterdam what will be your solution then? Well let's see, since you already advocate dissolving the Bill of Rights in the name of the War on Drugs, my hypothesis is that you will demand that Americans be prohibited from traveling to Mexico and to ensure compliance you will advocate that the sealed border you want be turned into our own version of the Berlin Wall. After all, it's for the children.

Legalizing heroin, hashish, marijuana, meth, crank, LSD, and all other addictive, destructive drugs in the US will only ACCELERATE our demise.

That's right, it's the drugs that's causing the downfall of America. It has nothing to do with politicians ignoring the Constitution. It has nothing to to with judges turning the constitution on its head with their rulings. It has nothing to do with the police state infrastructure being implemented in the name of both the war on terror and the war on drugs. It has nothing to do with the complete disregard of the Bill of Rights. It has nothing to do with our interventionist foreign policy. It has nothing to do with rampant police abuse. Nope. It's all about the drugs.

Over half the government there already profits form the sale of narcotics to the US.

Yeah, it's a shame they don't act more like our government which is squeaky clean and incorruptible.

You are the perfect example that you can't fix stupid.

F.A. Hayek Fan  posted on  2010-08-10   13:12:36 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: F.A. Hayek Fan (#4)

I propose you move to Mexico where you will feel more at home and comfortable. Didn't they just legalize same-sex marriage? You may find that to your liking also.

HAPPY2BME-4UM  posted on  2010-08-10   13:34:31 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: F.A. Hayek Fan (#5)

On 2010-08-10 13:34:31, HAPPY2BME-4UM wrote:

To: F.A. Hayek Fan

I propose you move to Mexico where you will blah blah blah...

You just can't win an argument with someone using that kind of logic.

PnbC  posted on  2010-08-10   13:41:06 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: PnbC (#6)

The sympathizers wanting to legalize drugs are usually the ones creating the market for them.

SHOE - > FIT

HAPPY2BME-4UM  posted on  2010-08-10   13:45:01 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: HAPPY2BME-4UM (#7) (Edited)

The sympathizers wanting to legalize drugs are usually the ones creating the market for them.

SHOE - > FIT

LOL! Every time you open your mouth you show yourself to be an idiot incapable of defending your beliefs.

F.A. Hayek Fan  posted on  2010-08-10   13:49:13 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: F.A. Hayek Fan (#9)

Every time you open your mouth you show yourself to be an idiot incapable of defending your beliefs.

================================================

What is your favorite recreational drug and how often do you fire up with it?

Meth? Crack? Mescaline? Weed? Hash?

Or do you mainline?

Tell us more.

HAPPY2BME-4UM  posted on  2010-08-10   13:52:11 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: HAPPY2BME-4UM (#11)

What is your favorite recreational drug and how often do you fire up with it?

Meth? Crack? Mescaline? Weed? Hash?

Or do you mainline?

Tell us more.

Happy, I don't speak for anyone but myself but those of us who disagree with the insane war on drugs and drug laws in general are not all dopers. I take the medicine that my doctor prescribes for me and I drink a beer once in a while. But the reason I am against Prohibition is that it does not work and there is no authority for it in the Constitution. The Constitution can be amended to allow it--it was done before with alcohol and we have all seen how that worked out--but they just pass laws in total disregard of the Constitution and their oaths. If they can outlaw things you don't care for today in violation of the Constitution they can also outlaw things you do like tomorrow. Something to think about.

James Deffenbach  posted on  2010-08-10   22:07:08 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: James Deffenbach (#32)

Happy, I don't speak for anyone but myself but those of us who disagree with the insane war on drugs and drug laws in general are not all dopers. I take the medicine that my doctor prescribes for me and I drink a beer once in a while. But the reason I am against Prohibition is that it does not work and there is no authority for it in the Constitution. The Constitution can be amended to allow it--it was done before with alcohol and we have all seen how that worked out--but they just pass laws in total disregard of the Constitution and their oaths. If they can outlaw things you don't care for today in violation of the Constitution they can also outlaw things you do like tomorrow. Something to think about.

I tried that line of thinking with him to and all I got for my troubles is that I'm a doper.

He's a statist. If you read the whole thread he bitches about Sweden's drug laws however, after doing some research I found that Sweden's drug laws are actually harsher than the laws here in the US. So a legitimate question to ask is if Sweden's harsher drug laws aren't good enough for him, just how far does he want government to go in order to implement his drug free utopia? Of course he refuses to answer because (IMHO) the answer is that he would have us all living in Pol Pot's Cambodia if that's what he thought it would take.

F.A. Hayek Fan  posted on  2010-08-10   22:24:40 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: F.A. Hayek Fan (#38) (Edited)

I tried that line of thinking with him to and all I got for my troubles is that I'm a doper.

At the end of the day all you can do is try your best and if you do that that is all anyone can reasonably expect. I try to explain things to people the best way I know how but I realize that I won't reach everyone no matter how good I think the explanation is. None of us can reach everyone and not everyone will accept the fact that the (federal) government has no business whatsoever outlawing drugs. What drugs people should take, or not take, is a matter best left between them and their doctor so long as they aren't hurting other people. And there are already penalties for that without an insane (not to mention insanely expensive) and useless war on a commodity.

James Deffenbach  posted on  2010-08-10   22:30:27 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#41. To: James Deffenbach (#39)

What drugs people should take, or not take, is a matter best left between them and their doctor so long as they aren't hurting other people.

Well according to happy, I should not even be allowed to be a doctor because I am against the WOD. LOL! He's f4um's own little Adolph.

F.A. Hayek Fan  posted on  2010-08-10 22:36:29 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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