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Title: Former Sen. Stevens killed in crash near Dillingham
Source: KTUU
URL Source: http://www.ktuu.com/Global/story.asp?S=12952729
Published: Aug 10, 2010
Author: by Channel 2 News staff
Post Date: 2010-08-10 16:43:51 by HAPPY2BME-4UM
Keywords: None
Views: 555
Comments: 51

Former Sen. Stevens killed in crash near Dillingham

ANCHORAGE, Alaska -- Mitch Rose, spokesperson for the Stevens family, has confirmed that Sen. Ted Stevens was killed in a plane crash near Dillingham Monday night.

Nine people were on board, including former NASA Chief Sean O'Keefe. Five people were killed in the crash, but other identities were not known.

GCI released a statement Tuesday morning that confirmed it owned the plane that went down.

A spokesperson with Kanakanak Hospital in Dillingham says two patients were taken to their hospital from the crash site and arrived at 9:45 a.m. Two patients were taken directly from the crash site to the Dillingham airport where a C-130 will take all four patients to an Anchorage hospital.

Late through the night rescue crews were battling bad weather conditions to reach the scene, where Good Samaritans had already arrived and were providing medical assistance, said Air National Guard spokesperson Maj. Guy Hayes.

A military C-130 and a Pave Hawk helicopter were waiting in Dillingham for the weather to break and reached the site just after 7:30 a.m. Tuesday.

The Air Guard received the call about the crash 17 miles north of Dillingham at about 7 p.m. Monday night.

The Stevens family released a statement Tuesday afternoon: "The Ted Stevens family offers their prayers for all those on board and for their families. We thank the brave men and women who are are working to reach the site. We continue to work with the Alaska National Guard, the US Coast Guard and the Alaska State Troopers. We thank everyone for their support and prayers."

The National Transportation Safety Board is sending a "Go-Team" from Washington D.C. early Tuesday morning to the crash site. An NTSB official said the team is responsible for investigating the most high-profile and catastrophic crashes.

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#1. To: HAPPY2BME-4UM (#0)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-08-10   16:56:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Eric Stratton (#1)

Ted Stevens almost died in his first plane crash decades ago that took the life of his first wife.

Strike TWO and he's out.

U.S. Constitution - Article IV, Section 4: NO BORDERS + NO LAWS = NO COUNTRY

HAPPY2BME-4UM  posted on  2010-08-10   16:58:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: HAPPY2BME-4UM (#2)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-08-10   17:02:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Eric Stratton (#3)

Also former NASA Chief Sean O'Keefe and 7 others.

Makes you wonder who and what they were up to these days.

======================================================

Ted Stevens wasn't the longest running Senator in Republican history because he kept friends in low places.

;>)

U.S. Constitution - Article IV, Section 4: NO BORDERS + NO LAWS = NO COUNTRY

HAPPY2BME-4UM  posted on  2010-08-10   17:08:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: HAPPY2BME-4UM (#0)

Hey Ted how about that...... a PLANE to NOWHERE!!

Karma's a beotch you lying, thieving, bloodsucking, murdering, scumbag.

Lysander_Spooner  posted on  2010-08-10   17:51:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: HAPPY2BME-4UM, English majors, 4 (#0)

NCHORAGE, Alaska -- Mitch Rose, spokesperson for the Stevens family, has confirmed that Sen. Ted Stevens was killed in a plane crash near Dillingham Monday night.

Shouldn't have said that the guy died, instead of was killed?

If not, who was the killer?

Thanks.

Lod  posted on  2010-08-10   18:07:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Lod (#6)

was killed in a plane crash

This is normal usage, I think.

The crashing of the plane killed him.


I ran out of smart sounding quotes

wudidiz  posted on  2010-08-10   18:19:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Lod (#6)

If not, who was the killer?

He was executed for breaking the law. The law of gravity.

But he IS a good politician now. GOOD & DEAD.

Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)

Esso  posted on  2010-08-10   18:30:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: HAPPY2BME-4UM (#0)

Did the propeller come off? Propellers seem to fly off Senator's planes with regularity.

WWGPD? - (What Would General Pinochet Do?)

Flintlock  posted on  2010-08-10   18:33:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Lysander_Spooner (#5)

Darn, I was hoping you had died in a plane crash.

A K A Stone  posted on  2010-08-10   18:38:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: A K A Stone (#10)

Do I know you ?

I have never had anyone wish for my death, interesting, is there some sort of reasonable explanation for your "hope", or would you rather just go straight to ten paces, turn and fire?

Lysander_Spooner  posted on  2010-08-10   18:55:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: A K A Stone (#10)

Darn, I was hoping you had died in a plane crash.

Ah, I get it, I looked up some of your posts, A ZIONAZI, in person.

I am not surprised by your "hope", I certainly am getting a better picture of the psychopathic/sociopathic mentality that is contained within your belief system.

Lysander_Spooner  posted on  2010-08-10   19:06:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Lysander_Spooner (#12)

He's a guest troll.


I ran out of smart sounding quotes

wudidiz  posted on  2010-08-10   19:10:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Lysander_Spooner, A K A Stone (#12)

Ah, I get it ....

Yes, he loves you so much that he wants to send you to heaven lickity-split.

"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET

buckeroo  posted on  2010-08-10   19:11:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: buckeroo, wudidiz (#14)

LOL

I do feel the "ZIO" LUV, it is makn me all warm n fuzzy :)

Lysander_Spooner  posted on  2010-08-10   19:14:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Lysander_Spooner (#11)

Do I know you ?

I have never had anyone wish for my death, interesting, is there some sort of reasonable explanation for your "hope", or would you rather just go straight to ten paces, turn and fire?

Stone's a good Christian. He wishes for lots of people's deaths. He just wants you all to get to meet Jesus soon.

JRiggs  posted on  2010-08-10   19:20:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Lysander_Spooner, A K A Stone (#11)

I have never had anyone wish for my death, interesting, is there some sort of reasonable explanation for your "hope", or would you rather just go straight to ten paces, turn and fire?

It's what Jesus would do.

"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Director, CIA 1973–1976

Nothing in the State, everything outside the State, everything against the State - Jan Lester, Escape From Leviathan

"When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves in the course of time a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that justifies it." - Frederic Bastiat

Good order results spontaneously when things are let alone. - Zhuangzi

F.A. Hayek Fan  posted on  2010-08-10   19:24:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Flintlock (#9)

Did the propeller come off? Propellers seem to fly off Senator's planes with regularity.

"Look, I can see Russia out my window..."

"The people in power will not disappear voluntarily, giving flowers to the cops just isn't going to work. This thinking is fostered by the establishment; they like nothing better than love and nonviolence. The only way I like to see cops given flowers is in a flower pot from a high window.” - William S Burroughs

Dakmar  posted on  2010-08-10   19:30:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Lysander_Spooner (#11)

You're an idiot. And I said what I said. Because like you said Karma is a bitch.

Just parroting your attitude back at ya. Commie.

A K A Stone  posted on  2010-08-10   19:45:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: A K A Stone (#19)

Hey, Stone. How's life at your POS forum? The fact that you give Mad Dog, yuktard, and e_type_nig a platform casts more doubt on your character than would normally occur from just reading the crap you post.

Stupid fucking fundie nutball BobCeleste teabagger.

Samuel Gray  posted on  2010-08-10   19:48:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Samuel Gray (#20)

Didn't I tell you to fuck off when you sent me pm and wanted to sign up.

A K A Stone  posted on  2010-08-10   19:51:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: A K A Stone (#21)

Yeah, cuz you won't man up and ban or post identities of a couple of your more heinous POS posters.

I also told you my entire purpose for joining that shithole was to harrass two or three specific individuals.

Jesus hates Christians like you.

Samuel Gray  posted on  2010-08-10   19:52:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Lysander_Spooner (#12)

I shouldn't have said that. I'm sorry. You're annoying and I think you are wrong about the things you say. You have a hatred for a certain people and I don't get it. I still shouldn't have said that.

A K A Stone  posted on  2010-08-10   20:29:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: A K A Stone (#23)

You're annoying and I think you are wrong about the things you say.

Good job, Stone, you've finally learned the difference between "your" (possessive) and "you're" (contraction of you are). Look for cupcake coupons in your mailbox.

"The people in power will not disappear voluntarily, giving flowers to the cops just isn't going to work. This thinking is fostered by the establishment; they like nothing better than love and nonviolence. The only way I like to see cops given flowers is in a flower pot from a high window.” - William S Burroughs

Dakmar  posted on  2010-08-10   20:35:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Dakmar (#24)

"Good job, Stone, you've finally learned the difference between "your" (possessive) and "you're" (contractaction of you are). Look for cupcake coupons in your mailbox."

Heehee, I've pointed this out to him before. Thanks for pointing to a definate English language learning curve with him.

Ferret  posted on  2010-08-10   20:42:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: A K A Stone (#19) (Edited)

I ain't no commie, ZioChristianNazi.

You can't form a rational, gramatically correct english sentence and I am the idiot?

LMAO

Lysander_Spooner  posted on  2010-08-10   20:46:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Samuel Gray (#22)

Jesus hates Christians like you.

ROTFLMAO :)

Lysander_Spooner  posted on  2010-08-10   20:48:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: Ferret (#25)

definate

?

Eek! I'm surrounded by people just as stupid as I am!!!

Better call in the experts to tell us all how to think.

Which Bennett was Bush I's Drug Tsar? That's an impressive title if nothing else. I think it was Bill, is he still alive?

"The people in power will not disappear voluntarily, giving flowers to the cops just isn't going to work. This thinking is fostered by the establishment; they like nothing better than love and nonviolence. The only way I like to see cops given flowers is in a flower pot from a high window.” - William S Burroughs

Dakmar  posted on  2010-08-10   20:48:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: A K A Stone (#23)

Apology accepted, we can call off the flintlock duel then ? :)

"Annoying", lol, now we are talking, I can resemble that remark !

If I am wrong, point out my error, I am open minded, and willing to learn :)

I do NOT have hatred for certain people, I do however have strong rational and moral reason to condemn certain peoples' behaviors, actions, and beliefs. ZioChristianNazis,do have beliefs, behaviors, and actions I have strong rational and moral objection to.

Lysander_Spooner  posted on  2010-08-10   20:53:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Dakmar (#28)

It was Bill, he was last seen in Vegas, condemning gay sex and gambling, while holding a spot at the blackjack table and chasing tiny male dancers around the slot machines.

Lysander_Spooner  posted on  2010-08-10   20:55:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Dakmar (#28)

Which Bennett was Bush I's Drug Tsar? That's an impressive title if nothing else. I think it was Bill, is he still alive?

Bill Bennett is alive and well (after kicking a wicked gambling habit) and doing a talk radio show that might be one of the worst ever produced. I caught app 10 mins of it while I was driving on I-95, just outside of DeeCee. The last I saw him he on TeeVee he looked to weigh app three and a half to four, minimum.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2010-08-10   21:04:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: A K A Stone (#23)

You have a hatred for a certain people and I don't get it.

Mr Stone? Irony calling for you on line 1. You are the biggest bigoted, xenophobic, homophobic everyone-who's-not-like-me phobic person on the planet.

The only thing narrower than your mind is your vocabulary range.

Cave calling for you on line 2. They want their batshit back.

Samuel Gray  posted on  2010-08-10   21:12:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: Jethro Tull (#31)

Education Bill Bennett dismissed such "far-reaching, extensive extrapolations"Addressing a caller's suggestion that the "lost revenue from the people who have been aborted in the last 30 years" would be enough to preserve Social Security's solvency, radio host and former Reagan administration Secretary of by declaring that if "you wanted to reduce crime ... if that were your sole purpose, you could abort every black baby in this country, and your crime rate would go down." Bennett conceded that aborting all African-American babies "would be an impossible, ridiculous, and morally reprehensible thing to do," then added again, "but the crime rate would go down."

Oh yeah...THAT Bill Bennett.

The guy makes Gingrich look like Joe Sixpack by comparison. He has some wires crossed in his noggan causing him to spout nonsense conflating in-group solidarity with duty to The State.

"The people in power will not disappear voluntarily, giving flowers to the cops just isn't going to work. This thinking is fostered by the establishment; they like nothing better than love and nonviolence. The only way I like to see cops given flowers is in a flower pot from a high window.” - William S Burroughs

Dakmar  posted on  2010-08-10   21:31:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: JRiggs (#16)

Stone's a good Christian. He wishes for lots of people's deaths. He just wants you all to get to meet Jesus soon.

laughing...

christine  posted on  2010-08-10   21:50:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: Dakmar (#24)

Good job, Stone, you've finally learned the difference between "your" (possessive) and "you're" (contraction of you are).

Praise Hey-Sus!

WWGPD? - (What Would General Pinochet Do?)

Flintlock  posted on  2010-08-10   22:42:07 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: Jethro Tull (#31)

last I saw him he on TeeVee he looked to weigh app three and a half to four, minimum.

Gastric bypass surgery and a bunch of statins will get him back livn the 'Merican Dweem.

Lysander_Spooner  posted on  2010-08-11   0:46:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: HAPPY2BME-4UM (#0)

assassination?

Wednesday, August 11, 2010

Top US Senator Assassinated As Obama “Weather War” Plunges World Into Chaos

By: Sorcha Faal, and as reported to her Western Subscribers

A new report prepared for Prime Minister Putin by Russia’s foreign military intelligence directorate (GRU) states that a former top United States Senator, Ted Stevens, was assassinated this week after he attempted to gather evidence “proving” that President Obama has unleashed America’s devastating “weather weapons” against the World.

As we had previously reported on in our August 3rd report titled “Russia Burns, China Drowns: US To Blame?” Russian research scientist Dr. Andrey Areshev has joined the ranks of International scientists and experts stating their belief that the extreme weather chaos currently battering our Planet is being caused by the Tesla technology based weapons systems directed from Alaska’s High Frequency Active Auroral Research Program, otherwise known as HAARP.

Now according to this GRU report, Senator Stevens was approached less than a fortnight ago by his longtime friend and Alaskan bush pilot Theron “Terry” Smith whose son-in-law, Alaskan Air National Guard Major Aaron W. Malone, was killed on July 28th after having his C-17 US Military aircraft “targeted” by a HAARP “Tesla Beam” while in the air over Anchorage, Alaska causing it to crash and explode upon impact killing all aboard. [Note: The Russian translation for “targeted” as used in this report does not assign HARRP blame as it includes an “accidental” verb component.]

Upon Senator Stevens beginning his investigation into HAARP’s causing the crash of the Major Malone’s C-17, this report continues, he enlisted the aid of two powerful Washington power brokers, oil fortune heir William “Bill” Phillips Sr. and former NASA administrator Sean O'Keefe.

Phillips was a longtime ally and supporter of Senator Stevens and as the heir to the Phillips Petroleum fortune is said in these reports to have in the past used his vast fortune to privately finance US intelligence “activities” to support his countries efforts to gain access to Global oil reserves.

Phillips had long warned Americans that the United States does not have any big oil companies. And it’s true: the largest American oil company, Exxon Mobil, is only the 14th largest in the World and is dwarfed by the really big oil companies -- all owned by foreign governments or government- sponsored monopolies -- that dominate the World's oil supply.

With 94% of the World's oil supply locked up by foreign governments, most of which are hostile to the United States, the relatively puny American oil companies do not have access to enough crude oil to significantly affect the market and help bring prices down. Thus, ExxonMobil, a “small” oil company, buys 90% of the crude oil that it refines for the US market from the big players, i.e., mostly-hostile foreign governments.

O’Keefe was the former administrator for the Untied States space agency NASA from 2001-2005, and whose reign included the Space Shuttle Columbia disaster that occurred on February 1, 2003, when upon its reentry into Earth’s atmosphere disintegrated over Texas, and which this report says O’Keefe “always” blamed on HAARP because at the exact time of this tragedy it had begun transmitting in what is called “deep sea communication mode”. ....... LINKS, more:

nesaranews.blogspot.com/2...ssassinated-as-obama.html

so far I couldn't find this posted anywhere else, not even at whatdoesitmean.com

"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2010-08-11   15:36:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#37)

thank you for posting the horrible article suggesting that maybe Senator Stevens was murdered for investigating HAARP and alleged weather wars.

The terrible floods in Pakistan it seems are centered in the Swat valley. This is where the violence has been. This is allegedly where the radicals that must be killed live. and the floods are horrific. It is a very unusual event, all the rain they've had. In Russia people are dying every day from all the smoke that they have. The death rate in Moscow has doubled because of the smoke. Russia is literally burning and they had a big drought that has caused their wheat crop to decline dramatically.

I didn't like Senator Stevens. I remember in particular his comment in 1999 when he was speaking to a 'house manager' about the impeachment of Bill Clinton where he said "I don't care if he raped her, got up out of the bed and shot her dead, you are not going to get 67 votes in the US Senate". He was a corrupt individual.

Sorcha Faal is considered an unreliable source. But what is HAARP?

Revelation 6:6 And I heard a voice in the midst of the four beasts say, A measure of wheat for a penny, and three measures of barley for a penny; and [see] thou hurt not the oil and the wine.

Red Jones  posted on  2010-08-11   15:47:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#37)

IMHO it is a reasonable view to think that Sorcha Faal could be correct on that. I think we're very much in totalitarian police state mode. If you are a public figure and you do the wrong thing, you can be taken down quickly. You can have criminal charges brought against you, you can have a propaganda campaign come against you, you can be killed. Anyone who is an effective leader against the regime that rules is on very shaky ground.

I feel that we've passed the point where 'we' can stop this downward spiral. The regime that rules is bent on global war. They have an agenda that is hostile to us. It is inevitable (unfortunately) that our nation will be destroyed.

The public discussion that we have about our national affairs in our mass media is dysfunctional and surrealistic. Many points of view on many issues are not allowed. Example - are there any sane anti-war voices allowed to speak in our media. Our people are kept ignorant on many issues. This is because we're in 'police state' mode.

Revelation 6:6 And I heard a voice in the midst of the four beasts say, A measure of wheat for a penny, and three measures of barley for a penny; and [see] thou hurt not the oil and the wine.

Red Jones  posted on  2010-08-11   15:59:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: Red Jones (#38)

Sorcha Faal is considered an unreliable source.

Yes, I've heard that before. This person is not Christian, so for that reason alone, I have to use discernment when reading his/her articles. On the other hand, upon going back over some of his/her articles recently, more often than not, what he/she has reported has panned out.

What is HAARP?

I was looking for something on 4um earlier today and ran across a recent post on it.

In a word, HAARP could be used to benefit mankind, creating rain when and where needed, and most likely free energy. In the hands of demons at this point in time however, it is being used as a weapon of mass destruction.

haarp.net

freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=120124

"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2010-08-11   15:59:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#40)

I feel that we as a people are put into a situation where we are basically an enslaved people. We are put under a system where those we look to for news lie to us, those we look to for leadership in Washington are against us. anyone who tries to be a good leader for us can be killed. I like Psalm 137 as a description of our national situation.

I take a christian point of view when thinking about national leadership. I do not believe that the democratic process causes our leaders to represent us or to serve in our interest. We've tended to think that democracy causes a situation where the people of a given nation rule through their elected leaders. I think this is a completely fraudulent ideology (democracy is). Democracy does not facilitate that anyone sympathetic to us or representative of us will be in power.

How are leadership cliques selected? I read a description of it in the bible that I buy. God appoints the leaders. and the people fall in line like sheep. If this theory is correct, then you'd ask if god wants bad things to happen to our country. We should be aware that god causes history to unfold for god's purposes, not for ours'. just because we are overwhelmingly focused on our welfare and our nation's welfare doesn't mean that god things that way. god is preparing wrath for the people of the world, he is preparing vengeance for failure to live up to standards he set. our nation is used as a tool in this process. evil leaders are allowed to rule our country.

pursuant to these goals that god has our nation will be destroyed.

history unfolds in such a way as to show people worldwide that they can't live without god. our nation is but a tool in this process. If god would allow jesus to be sacrificed as he did, then why would we think that our nation would be protected?

our government does great evil. it is pride that keeps people from seeing this. and what is pride? It is a sign that people show before their destruction. Pride goeth before the fall, and a haughty spirit before destruction.

we should be humble and comprehend that it is in reality a compliment to our nation that we be used in this fashion. god will do with the nations what god wants to do with the nations. people are very arrogant and proud. They think that god exists to help us. We are ruled by a regime that does great evil.

Revelation 6:6 And I heard a voice in the midst of the four beasts say, A measure of wheat for a penny, and three measures of barley for a penny; and [see] thou hurt not the oil and the wine.

Red Jones  posted on  2010-08-11   16:34:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: Red Jones (#41)

history unfolds in such a way as to show people worldwide that they can't live without god.

I think that's a confusion of cause and effect.


I ran out of smart sounding quotes

wudidiz  posted on  2010-08-11   16:43:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: Red Jones (#39)

IMHO it is a reasonable view to think that Sorcha Faal could be correct on that. I think we're very much in totalitarian police state mode. If you are a public figure and you do the wrong thing, you can be taken down quickly. You can have criminal charges brought against you, you can have a propaganda campaign come against you, you can be killed. Anyone who is an effective leader against the regime that rules is on very shaky ground.

when you get a chance....

www.whatdoesitmean.com/index1373.htm

I feel that we've passed the point where 'we' can stop this downward spiral.

perhaps.

The regime that rules is bent on global war.

Looks like it. bible.cc/revelation/20-8.htm

They have an agenda that is hostile to us.

Yup.

bible.cc/micah/4-11.htm / bible.cc/galatians/3-29.htm

It is inevitable (unfortunately) that our nation will be destroyed.

I think I'm in a distinct minority; but I totally disagree with that.

bible.cc/psalms/2-4.htm

www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=55421

"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2010-08-11   16:46:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#43)

I think I'm in a distinct minority

Some people think that we should believe in people and not in god. the bible does not speak in favor of democracy and instead tells us a very different story about how national leadership cliques are selected. the bible's description as to how nations are ruled seems accurate to me, and democracy is a fraudulent theory or idol.

Revelation 6:6 And I heard a voice in the midst of the four beasts say, A measure of wheat for a penny, and three measures of barley for a penny; and [see] thou hurt not the oil and the wine.

Red Jones  posted on  2010-08-11   16:59:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: Red Jones (#41)

history unfolds in such a way as to show people worldwide that they can't live without god.

bible.cc/ezekiel/38-16.htm / [The Church Is Israel Now http://www.preteristarchive.com/...provan-charles_dd_01.html ]

Central theme of the Bible:

Psalm 118:8 It is better to trust in the LORD than to put confidence in man.

bible.cc/psalms/118-8.htm

9It is better to trust in the LORD than to put confidence in princes.

1 Samuel 8 http://kingjbible.com/1_samuel/8.htm

We [Ezekiel 17:1-6 http://kingjbible.com/ezekiel/17.htm /John 15:1-2 bible.cc/john/15-1.htm /Enduring Legacy of First Landing] are ruled by a regime [Ezekiel 17:7-10 http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/E...m/satan_on_our_dollar.htm / bible.cc/matthew/15-13.htm ] that does great evil.

bible.cc/ezekiel/38-18.htm

"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2010-08-11   17:12:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#45)

Psalm 118:8 It is better to trust in the LORD than to put confidence in man.

as you said, this is a central theme of the bible. the bible says specifically that this world is made in such a way that it is inevitable that evil people will rule. and evil people do rule. and history is unfolding so as to show people the extreme dysfunctionalism of believing in the rule of man.

Revelation 6:6 And I heard a voice in the midst of the four beasts say, A measure of wheat for a penny, and three measures of barley for a penny; and [see] thou hurt not the oil and the wine.

Red Jones  posted on  2010-08-11   17:17:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: HAPPY2BME-4UM (#37)

I have to go out, but I want to park a few things here.

Didn't Stevens come into office upon the death of Hale Boggs in a plane crash with Nick Begich Sr.?

His son, Nick Begich Jr. wrote the book ANGELS DON'T PLAY THIS HAARP.

HAARP - The Noble Lie

"Jesse Ventura's new show "Conspiracy Theory" dedicated an episode to HAARP. The amazing demonstration Begich does with Jesse Ventura is child's play; the military has already talked publicly about weaponization, and people have claimed to be victims of this very real technology for decades. In fact, this is a source of the infamous "tinfoil hat," the derogatory icon which hangs like an albatross around the neck of conspiratologists worldwide.

I learned of Nick Begich Jr. and read his book "Angels Don't Play This HAARP" a few years ago. Some people may be surprised to see that the brother of a US Senator has been one of the most persistent voices in the wilderness warning people against HAARP.

This video doesn't get into some of the very interesting facts surrounding the Begich family. Please bear with me while I play the crypto-political variant of "Six Degrees of Kevin Bacon."

The father of Nick Begich Jr. was an Alaskan politician who made his way to the US House of Representatives. He died in a mysterious plane crash along with House Majority Leader Hale Boggs. Boggs is the member of the Warren Commission who supposedly defied Alan Dulles and his demand for secrecy, leaking information to Jim Garrison, the New Orleans prosecutor who tried to get to the bottom of the Kennedy assassination. (Incidentally, Kevin Bacon is in the film that immortalized Jim Garrison, Oliver Stone's "JFK.")

One more Kennedy connection: the fatal crash of Hale Boggs and Nick Begich Sr. was also the crash that prompted Congress to pass a law mandating emergency locator transmitters on all airplanes, an invention that should have saved the life of John Kennedy Jr., or at least dramatically reduced the amount of time his search party required.

Paul Wellstone died in a mysterious plane crash, too. Some have wondered why progressive Democrats seem to have such bad luck with airplanes.

I can't help but note one of the stated purposes of HAARP is to knock flying objects out of the sky."

Videos: Jesse Ventura, Nick Begich, Nikola Tesla, HAARP, Mind Control, Etc.

noblelie.com/tag/haarp

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Angels Don't Play This Haarp; Advances in Tesla Technology

the book "Angels don't play this HAARP: Advances in Tesla Technology". It's written by (honorary doctorate holder) Nick Begich and mainstream news reporter Jeane Manning.

Dr. Begich is past president of the Alaska Teachers' Federation, and is the eldest son of Congressman Nick Begich Sr., who went missing along with House Majority Leader Hale Boggs in the early seventies in a suspected plane crash. Details of the project Hale Boggs was investigating, along with his increasing outspokenness about the JFK assassination cover-up, has convinced conspiracy theorists to suspect the suspicious circumstances surrounding their disappearance among a long list of possible political assassinations.

Dr. Begich Jr. believes the experimental HAARP (High-Frequency Active Auroral Research Project) facilities located in Gakona Alaska, 140 miles north of Prince William Sound, is the most reckless and dangerous undertaking the military have ever attempted, rivaling even the Manhattan project in scope and risk. Some of the emf technologies that are planned were first revealed by Tesla in the 1880's and will finally achieve a practical application with HAARP's projected 100 billion watt transmitter. That's enough power to give credence to the project's claim that it's a universal weapon which will "revolutionize military affairs".

That's not to say that each of the numerous radio frequency technologies HAARP is developing aren't themselves revolutionary. The profound biological effects of its elf, and vlf waveforms can provide surreptitious control over critical aspects of human physiology from a distance, enabling a whole range of military and law enforcement options, from "psychologically or physiologically modifying or disabling" their targets to "wholly toasting" them. In fact, the effects of micro-tuned, pulsed, emf therapies are now being realized with such significance by experimental practitioners they're speculating a transition from today's pharmaceutical based treatment to largely emf therapies in the near future. And thus HAARP's transmitter capacity to surreptitiously affect entire populations must be realized as truly revolutionary. This notion harkens to Dr. Delgado's work with emf therapies in the 70’s entitled "Physical Control of the Mind: Towards a Psycho-civilized Society". Therein he justified this ground breaking research at the time with the rationalization that "since war begins in the mind of men, it is in the minds of men that the defense of peace must be constructed". His concept may sound promising to the uninitiated. But I assure you from practical experience that its victims will dread the horror of these technologies as "absolutely devastating" to their lives. Just as with most pharmaceutical regimes, there are a multitude of side effects and complications unique to particular individuals that can make the target's life a living hell. And by using surreptitious exposure as the preferred method, the victim's invaluable feedback, detailing personal adverse effects, is simply excluded.

This technology alone will revolutionize the way the future world is managed, but the HAARP facility promises so much more. They intend to saturate portions of the ionosphere with an unprecedented beam-focusing technology, allowing massive emf power transfer with pinpoint accuracy intended to trigger a cascading electrode effect capable of shaping and harnessing the tremendous forces of the earth's magnetosphere itself in order to effect military man's bidding. It's simply the last word in the SDI concept of a "defensive shield". For one thing, they intend to contort the ionosphere into a lens effect in order to achieve their over-the-horizon radar technology, as well as to steer deep earth penetrating Tomography probes in search of enemy bunkers, weapons caches, or even in the pursuit of natural resources. Enemy satellites and aircraft can be scrutinized by such manipulation of the charged particles of the ionosphere in order to determine hostile payloads, which can then be destroyed as required. As a bonus, this HAARP manipulation of the ionosphere can completely confound enemy communications worldwide, while enhancing its own. And the HAARP facility is researching many other applications that are outlined in Begich's insightful book, including weather modification by targeting the jet stream, "nonlinear" wireless power transfer, particle beam weapons and other Star Wars systems listed in patents appended below.

Unfortunately though, scientists aren't exactly sure of nature's collateral effects. But in true military fashion, the project's authors are "willing to risk it". ......

"...Senator Stevens went to the floor of the Senate late in the summer of 1990 and declared, "We have in Alaska what I consider to be one of the most exciting research projects that l have ever encountered.'' He went on to say, "It is the experiments that are going on trying to determine if it is possible to harness the energy of the electrodes for the use of mankind.'' He said the project 'has the potential of using a laser beam to be a conductor of this energy back to Earth...lt is an experiment that, when l first heard about it, l thought someone had rewritten a new chapter of Jules Verne.''2l9 snip......"

victoria.tc.ca/%7Ed.piney/haarp.htm

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"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2010-08-11   18:03:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: Red Jones (#38)

August 3, 2010

Russia Burns, China Drowns: US To Blame?

By: Sorcha Faal, www.whatdoesitmean.com/index1394.htm

"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2010-08-11   18:10:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#48)

people around the world are going to hate us Americans with an extreme passion. we did not cause the US regime to do as it does. However, we were too flawed of a people to stop the US regime. And the people of the world are also too flawed to see that it is not our fault what the US regime does.

only god can save us now.

Revelation 6:6 And I heard a voice in the midst of the four beasts say, A measure of wheat for a penny, and three measures of barley for a penny; and [see] thou hurt not the oil and the wine.

Red Jones  posted on  2010-08-11   18:24:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: HAPPY2BME-4UM (#0)

I guess Rangel, or someone else is cleaning up any potential witnesses, or informants as Dan Rostenkowski is dead too, just read it online.

It is better to be hated for what you are, than loved for what you are not. - Tommy The Mad Artist.

TommyTheMadArtist  posted on  2010-08-11   18:59:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#47)

I learned of Nick Begich Jr. and read his book "Angels Don't Play This HAARP" a few years ago. Some people may be surprised to see that the brother of a US Senator has been one of the most persistent voices in the wilderness warning people against HAARP

I'm guessing you meant son instead of brother. I was watching this YouTube video earlier and, because you had mentioned him in your post, noticed a short tribute to him in it and thought you might like to see it too:

Tribute to the Truth Movement - Nick Begich @ 5:19

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

GreyLmist  posted on  2010-08-12   6:02:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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