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Title: Report: 1 in 15 kids in U.S. has illegal immigrant parent
Source: East Valley Tribune
URL Source: http://www.eastvalleytribune.com/ar ... 84-11df-9c10-001cc4c002e0.html
Published: Aug 11, 2010
Author: Howard Fischer, Capitol Media Services
Post Date: 2010-08-11 21:07:27 by Red Jones
Keywords: None
Views: 1798
Comments: 119

Report: 1 in 15 kids in U.S. has illegal immigrant parent

Posted: Wednesday, August 11, 2010 12:52 pm | Updated: 5:47 pm, Wed Aug 11, 2010.

Howard Fischer, Capitol Media Services | 2 comments

About one out of every 15 children in the United States was born to a family where at least one parent is in this country illegally, according to a new report Wednesday.

And four out of five of those 5.1 million children -- including 340,000 born in just 2008 -- are citizens because they were born in the United States, the Pew Hispanic Center concluded. That, according to some, makes them ``anchor babies'' for their illegal parents.

The figures, which the organization calculated based on 2009 U.S. Census Bureau estimates, are the best estimates to date of the scope of the issue which has resulted in calls to amend the U.S. Constitution to deny automatic citizenship to children solely by virtue of their birth within this country.

That percentage of children of illegal immigrant may be increasing.

The overall figure is about 6.8 percent of all children 17 and younger who have at least one illegal immigrant parent. But Pew Hispanic figures that 7.9 percent of all births during 2008 -- that 340,000 figure -- were offspring of "unauthorized'' immigrants.

Researchers peg the number of illegal immigrants in the United States at something slightly in excess of 4 percent of the total population.

"But because they are relatively young and have high birth rates, their children make up a much larger share of the newborn population and the child population in this country,'' the report states.

The report does not say how many of those 5.1 million children of illegal immigrants are in Arizona.

But Jeff Passel, the senior demographer at Pew Hispanic Center, pointed to an earlier study which concluded that Arizona has about 4.2 percent of the total illegal immigrants in the entire country.

Using that as a rough estimate, that translates to more than 214,000 children from birth through age 17 in the state where at least one parent is not here legally. And, based on the Pew figures nationwide, about 170,000 of these would be considered "anchor babies'' born in this country.

That also tracks with estimates in previous Pew reports which show that up to 110,000 children in Arizona public schools were born in this country into families where one or both parents are undocumented, with possibly 65,000 more school children who are themselves illegal immigrants.

The numbers will figure in the debate over the future of the 14th Amendment.

It states that children born or naturalized in the United States are citizens of both this country and the state where they reside. Courts have interpreted that to entitle citizenship to those born in the United States regardless of whether one or both parents had no legal right to be here.

Some foes, including Sen. Russell Pearce, R-Mesa, argue those rulings are flawed.

He noted that the amendment makes its provisions conditional on the children being "subject to the jurisdiction'' of this country. Pearce said courts, citing that language, concluded for years that did not entitle Native Americans to citizenship.

"There's no doubt where they were born,'' he said.

It was only after Congress specifically altered the law regarding citizenship for Indians that the situation changed.

Pearce is weighing whether to have Arizona bring a new challenge to those court rulings.

That would take the form of a state law denying birth certificates to children born in Arizona unless they could show at least one parent is in this country legally. That likely would provoke a lawsuit.

But Pearce said a simpler course would be to have the issue handled at the federal level.

U.S. Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., is pushing to amend the Constitution to spell out that mere birth within U.S. borders does not entitle someone to citizenship. That process, though, is cumbersome, requiring either a constitutional convention or ratification of any change approved by two-thirds of the U.S. House and Senate by three-fourths of all state legislatures.

Pearce, however, said that's not necessary.

"Congress could fix it tomorrow,'' he said. "All it needs is clarification.''

He pointed out that the 14th Amendment, which also deals with issues of voting rights and who can hold office, also spells out that Congress "shall have power to enforce, by appropriate legislation, the provisions of this article.''

"So they put it in there in case there was some abuse, or something misunderstood,'' Pearce said.

Applicable language of 14th Amendment

All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

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#6. To: Red Jones (#0)

1 in 15 kids in U.S. has illegal immigrant parent

Rojo

Why are you bitching, these are your "good neighbors"?

Enjoy your political choices, you voted for Obama, this is what you wanted.

Flintlock  posted on  2010-08-12   0:21:25 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Flintlock (#6)

Flintlock - where I live if they kicked out all the illegals, then our tax base would be negatively affected. as you know our economy is in such bad shape that it is not responsible to damage the tax base. That is one reason that I simply don't favor kicking the existing illegals out. I don't prefer that they be turned into guest workers, I prefer they become citizens.

But I don't think an immigration reform package will pass unless you do let the existing illegals stay here. Too many people recognize it to be harmful and counter-productive to kick them out. I see the great danger in immigration reform being guest workers. Almost all Republicans favor guest workers, it is an extremely high priority for them. But many democrats do not want any guest workers. it is far worse (IMO) to have a steady stream of guest workers than it is to forgive some illegals and let them stay.

It boggles my mind that Ronald Reagan's point of view on this issue is today considered 'liberal' by many who call themselves 'conservative'. Reagan of course wanted to forgive the illegals, but stop employers from hiring new illegals. We never tried to implement that solution. And even back in 1986 it was known that we were not making any effort. Our lawmakers opened the door for illegals. That is what we should understand. You can't reverse that decision.

Red Jones  posted on  2010-08-12   0:49:47 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Red Jones (#11) (Edited)

where I live if they kicked out all the illegals, then our tax base would be negatively affected. as you know our economy is in such bad shape that it is not responsible to damage the tax base.

Are you joking? There aren't enough unemployed Americans in your area to fill the job openings and so have more money they could spend into circulation, minus all the costs to the economy that were due to the illegals? Sounds to me like you're not doing the math right.

GreyLmist  posted on  2010-08-12   1:05:34 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: GreyLmist (#13)

Are you joking?

there are a lot of employers local who make zero effort whatsoever to hire Americans and instead hire from spanish language sources. that is, they do their advertising for new workers on spanish language media. and then since they don't e-verify they end up hiring 80% illegals. and this is what they do, it is their strategy. They were afraid of the Arizona laws, but over time they have learned not to be afraid.

I disapprove of this by the employers. but still, if you push the workforce out of the country it will have a negative impact on the tax base. I'm in favor of keeping the employers from hiring new illegals. The other people in my country insist that the employers always be free to hire foreigners and bring them here to work. Republicans dominate my state's politics. They refuse to penalize employers for hiring foreigners. They insist that when immigration reform occurs that we will have guest workers.

Don't blame me for this state of affairs.

Where I live if all the children born to illegals were kicked out, then many schools would lose 80% of their students. Many employers would lose key people and a substantial part of their force.

when we damage the local tax base, then we reduce local government tax revenue. when we do that, we shut down schools and make many services from the government impossible. where I live it has been discussed cutting police and fire department even though those services have gone for years without their budgets keeping up with inflation.

Red Jones  posted on  2010-08-12   6:56:45 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: Red Jones (#16) (Edited)

So, what you're trying to tell me in your first two paragraphs is that if the illegal alien migrant workforce was pushed out of the country, your area's taxbase would not recover by employment of Americans instead because the businesses there would discriminate against them and import guest workers from Spanish language sources? Which businesses there should be investigated for that discriminatory practice?

If the schools have to close down from deportation of illegals, good, imo. Then students could be homeschooled online or alternative schooled, likely much better overall and more efficiently. Arizona could save lots of money that's being wasted on the current dinosaur system and so could the Federal government. Many teachers and their subdivisions and their union key people and such would just have to...what's the word?...retrain for other careers like other Americans have been told to do.

As for the police and fire department situation you mentioned, it's likewise here. I got stopped at one of the periodic Gestapo checkpoints they set up within the last year or so and the policeman introduced himself, then said he was from the next county over. I was in a hurry and didn't feel like chatting so I didn't ask him if he was lost, like I should have for being out of his jurisdiction. Since then, there's been some merger so maybe he was...in- training for that or something.

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#37. To: GreyLmist (#34)

if you want to nurture the tax base, then you should nurture people who produce in the economy. the illegal immigrants that are here are producers. If you were to deport them, then yes it would shock our economy and we would immediately have a smaller economy. We would be able to move american workers into those jobs. but it would take time to recover in terms of the economy's size. in the meantime the local governments would collect less tax revenue. that would be extremely negative for our people. an economy should be nurtured for the sake of prosperity for the people. not deported.

I've told you that the reality here in Arizona is that many employers make no effort to hire americans at all. they do not advertise for people in english language sources, they prefer spanish language sources and use practices that result not only in systematic persecution against non-hispanic people, but hire an awful lot of illegal immigrants. this situation is ubiquitous in my state. I would like to stop this situation and I feel like I get no help at all from my fellow Americans on it.

Some people fantasize that SB1070 stops employers from behaving this way. That is complete fantasy, I wish that my fellow americans would live inside the world of reality. We don't have any prominent politicians in our whole country who publicly advocate what Ronald Reagan advocated - that we accept the illegals and close the door. We have never even tried to implement that solution that he favored. I wish we would do that. and I warn you over and over again that we will not be able to kick the existing illegals out and still keep democrat support for the reform. It is a choice between accepting a permanent stream of new guest workers or accepting the existing illegals. We're far better off at asking the illegals to be citizens and let them be free and equal and then shutting the door.

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