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Title: Report: 1 in 15 kids in U.S. has illegal immigrant parent
Source: East Valley Tribune
URL Source: http://www.eastvalleytribune.com/ar ... 84-11df-9c10-001cc4c002e0.html
Published: Aug 11, 2010
Author: Howard Fischer, Capitol Media Services
Post Date: 2010-08-11 21:07:27 by Red Jones
Keywords: None
Views: 1453
Comments: 119

Report: 1 in 15 kids in U.S. has illegal immigrant parent

Posted: Wednesday, August 11, 2010 12:52 pm | Updated: 5:47 pm, Wed Aug 11, 2010.

Howard Fischer, Capitol Media Services | 2 comments

About one out of every 15 children in the United States was born to a family where at least one parent is in this country illegally, according to a new report Wednesday.

And four out of five of those 5.1 million children -- including 340,000 born in just 2008 -- are citizens because they were born in the United States, the Pew Hispanic Center concluded. That, according to some, makes them ``anchor babies'' for their illegal parents.

The figures, which the organization calculated based on 2009 U.S. Census Bureau estimates, are the best estimates to date of the scope of the issue which has resulted in calls to amend the U.S. Constitution to deny automatic citizenship to children solely by virtue of their birth within this country.

That percentage of children of illegal immigrant may be increasing.

The overall figure is about 6.8 percent of all children 17 and younger who have at least one illegal immigrant parent. But Pew Hispanic figures that 7.9 percent of all births during 2008 -- that 340,000 figure -- were offspring of "unauthorized'' immigrants.

Researchers peg the number of illegal immigrants in the United States at something slightly in excess of 4 percent of the total population.

"But because they are relatively young and have high birth rates, their children make up a much larger share of the newborn population and the child population in this country,'' the report states.

The report does not say how many of those 5.1 million children of illegal immigrants are in Arizona.

But Jeff Passel, the senior demographer at Pew Hispanic Center, pointed to an earlier study which concluded that Arizona has about 4.2 percent of the total illegal immigrants in the entire country.

Using that as a rough estimate, that translates to more than 214,000 children from birth through age 17 in the state where at least one parent is not here legally. And, based on the Pew figures nationwide, about 170,000 of these would be considered "anchor babies'' born in this country.

That also tracks with estimates in previous Pew reports which show that up to 110,000 children in Arizona public schools were born in this country into families where one or both parents are undocumented, with possibly 65,000 more school children who are themselves illegal immigrants.

The numbers will figure in the debate over the future of the 14th Amendment.

It states that children born or naturalized in the United States are citizens of both this country and the state where they reside. Courts have interpreted that to entitle citizenship to those born in the United States regardless of whether one or both parents had no legal right to be here.

Some foes, including Sen. Russell Pearce, R-Mesa, argue those rulings are flawed.

He noted that the amendment makes its provisions conditional on the children being "subject to the jurisdiction'' of this country. Pearce said courts, citing that language, concluded for years that did not entitle Native Americans to citizenship.

"There's no doubt where they were born,'' he said.

It was only after Congress specifically altered the law regarding citizenship for Indians that the situation changed.

Pearce is weighing whether to have Arizona bring a new challenge to those court rulings.

That would take the form of a state law denying birth certificates to children born in Arizona unless they could show at least one parent is in this country legally. That likely would provoke a lawsuit.

But Pearce said a simpler course would be to have the issue handled at the federal level.

U.S. Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., is pushing to amend the Constitution to spell out that mere birth within U.S. borders does not entitle someone to citizenship. That process, though, is cumbersome, requiring either a constitutional convention or ratification of any change approved by two-thirds of the U.S. House and Senate by three-fourths of all state legislatures.

Pearce, however, said that's not necessary.

"Congress could fix it tomorrow,'' he said. "All it needs is clarification.''

He pointed out that the 14th Amendment, which also deals with issues of voting rights and who can hold office, also spells out that Congress "shall have power to enforce, by appropriate legislation, the provisions of this article.''

"So they put it in there in case there was some abuse, or something misunderstood,'' Pearce said.

Applicable language of 14th Amendment

All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

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#6. To: Red Jones (#0)

1 in 15 kids in U.S. has illegal immigrant parent

Rojo

Why are you bitching, these are your "good neighbors"?

Enjoy your political choices, you voted for Obama, this is what you wanted.

Flintlock  posted on  2010-08-12   0:21:25 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Flintlock (#6)

bitching

Bitching means complaining. I wasn't complaining. I only posted an article.

Red Jones  posted on  2010-08-12   0:28:11 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Red Jones (#8)

I wasn't complaining

Rojo

That's the point, you love these wetback invaders, don't you?

Flintlock  posted on  2010-08-12   0:45:11 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Flintlock (#10)

they're just ordinary people to me.

People under-estimate that you can't send them all home. Consider the ethnic mexicans who were born in our country, the ones whose families may go back generations. I know a mexican guy who is 78 years old and fought in the korean war. These ethnic mexicans who were born here will not tolerate seeing the illegals sent home. These ethnic mexicans don't want new illegals coming. but they will not allow the illegal mexicans to be sent back. it tears our country apart too much to send them back.

Red Jones  posted on  2010-08-12   0:53:11 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Red Jones (#12) (Edited)

These ethnic mexicans who were born here will not tolerate seeing the illegals sent home.

They're not dictators here. Watch this 5 min. YouTube video:

Longer version posted below it at 4um topic Immigration Gumballs.

GreyLmist  posted on  2010-08-12   1:28:33 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: GreyLmist (#14)

They're not dictators here.

these ethnic mexicans I speak of that are in reality americans are a significant part of our communities in states like arizona, texas, new mexico & southern cal. In the 1830's when there was a rebellion by California against Mexico it was ethnic mexicans who were doing the rebellion. They founded California. My ancestors first came to arizona in 1856. there were some ethnic mexicans already here at that time.

You don't understand, but you're advocating that we dictate to to them.

What I'm telling you is that the hard-line on illegals where we say 'kick them all out' is extremely divisive and makes any solution to illegal immigrant problem impossible.

Red Jones  posted on  2010-08-12   7:01:05 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Red Jones (#17)

What I'm telling you is that the hard-line on illegals where we say 'kick them all out' is extremely divisive and makes any solution to illegal immigrant problem impossible.

No it doesn't make any solution to the illegal alien migrant problem impossible. That is the solution which should penalize them as well with never being able to apply for citizenship here.

GreyLmist  posted on  2010-08-12   9:51:57 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: GreyLmist (#27)

That is the solution which should penalize them as well with never being able to apply for citizenship here.

that is the kind of a political view that makes a solution impossible. and it enables the republicans who want guest workers.

Some republicans want to turn the existing illegals into guest workers and then bring in more guest workers. Some republicans want to kick the illegals out, bar them from ever coming back and also bring in new guest workers. Some democrats will not tolerate the existing illegals being kicked out. Some democrats will not tolerate guest workers. and so we as a people cannot even bring about a situation where employers are penalized for hiring illegals - even though it is widely stated on all sides that we should stop the flow of new illegals.

a sad pitiful situation. I would rather compromise and let the existing illegals stay and then stop all new illegals as well as not have guest workers. The democrats will go along with that solution. That solution was proposed by Ronald Reagan. It is today's republicans who will not allow that solution.

I am becoming convinced that one of the reasons we can't find a solution is because of intractable opinions motivated by racism. Many Americans are uncomfortable with the idea that all of our workers will be free and able to quit their employers. They want kept people for the employers. They want semi-slaves. It is no different from 300 years ago.

Many people where I live speak a foreign language. I am not happy over this. It did not used to be that way. We are being divided up because of these bigotries. Our laws were arranged to facilitate that they come. We can't change that mistake retro-actively. We can only change it for the future.

Red Jones  posted on  2010-08-12   10:04:20 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: Red Jones (#30) (Edited)

This has nothing to do with racism. This is where I could use your charged medical-lingo or other terms like "obtuse" for your incessant refusal to comprehend that fact but won't cuz I'm trying to be civil.

We aren't griping about legal citizens here who are of Mexican/Hispanic origin. That the illegals happen to be largely of that nationality/ethnicity isn't our doing and has about nothing to do with our not wanting millions upon millions more of them suddenly on our citizenship rolls, other than that would put them way over the limit as compared to other applicants.

There was already a deal made years ago to give illegals a path to citizenship. That is what encouraged them to keep coming, far more than the rogue employers you point to, and things only got worse and worse in this country because of it. Been there, done that, bad idea. How have you failed to understand that? How many are not working and are being paid by state subsidies to do nothing constructive while they try to wait around for another mass "amnesty" to make them citizens? How many don't really even want to be citizens because then they'd have to deal with all the red tape and taxation and other rigamarole that we do to find and keep a job?

We don't have to compromise and give them citizenship in order to stop all new illegals and have no guest workers. That's a false argument. You claim Republicans want guest workers. Looks to me and others like Democrats really want more Democrat voters. Tomato, tomahto. Let's call the whole guest worker v. citizenship thing off.

O-U-T, out all ya'all go right now and don't come around here no more! Guest workers, too -- get gone and stay gone!Employers -- expect to be shut down, charged, fined, and jailed for hiring any of them.

Whatdya say we draft a bill that basically says that in legalese and fax it to Congress so they don't have to work so hard to get it to their floors for a vote? If they vote no, we can send it back to them. Election time is coming up. They might even be more in favor of it now than you'd care to imagine.

GreyLmist  posted on  2010-08-12   11:40:04 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: GreyLmist (#38)

We don't have to compromise and give them citizenship in order to stop all new illegals and have no guest workers. That's a false argument.

how are you going to get this legislation passed to penalize employers for hiring illegals? In 1986 Ronald Reagan came on tv and told us he would sign the immigration reform package that took so much effort to pass despite that that legislation had in his opinion a huge flaw. He said the legislation does not force employers to validate if who they're hiring is legal or not and he said that they would be able to hire illegals without penalty. He said we needed to fix that by passing legislation. It's been 24 years. How are we going to do that?

Obviously, we should vote people like Senator McCain who voted for that immigration reform bill as a congressman in 1986 out. We can agree on that. All politicians who voted for that bill should be voted out.

but our news media is 100% against us. They're going to keep our people confused and ignorant about it all. we've got obstacles.

and from a practical point of view you are going to have to compromise (at best). just my opinion anyway. but from a technical point of view you are correct, we don't have to compromise. I just think it wise to do so and I think if we want to avoid guest workers, we better find some allies who are against guest workers. That means you need people sympathetic to the illegals on your side.

Red Jones  posted on  2010-08-12   12:57:48 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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