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Title: Report: 1 in 15 kids in U.S. has illegal immigrant parent
Source: East Valley Tribune
URL Source: http://www.eastvalleytribune.com/ar ... 84-11df-9c10-001cc4c002e0.html
Published: Aug 11, 2010
Author: Howard Fischer, Capitol Media Services
Post Date: 2010-08-11 21:07:27 by Red Jones
Keywords: None
Views: 1805
Comments: 119

Report: 1 in 15 kids in U.S. has illegal immigrant parent

Posted: Wednesday, August 11, 2010 12:52 pm | Updated: 5:47 pm, Wed Aug 11, 2010.

Howard Fischer, Capitol Media Services | 2 comments

About one out of every 15 children in the United States was born to a family where at least one parent is in this country illegally, according to a new report Wednesday.

And four out of five of those 5.1 million children -- including 340,000 born in just 2008 -- are citizens because they were born in the United States, the Pew Hispanic Center concluded. That, according to some, makes them ``anchor babies'' for their illegal parents.

The figures, which the organization calculated based on 2009 U.S. Census Bureau estimates, are the best estimates to date of the scope of the issue which has resulted in calls to amend the U.S. Constitution to deny automatic citizenship to children solely by virtue of their birth within this country.

That percentage of children of illegal immigrant may be increasing.

The overall figure is about 6.8 percent of all children 17 and younger who have at least one illegal immigrant parent. But Pew Hispanic figures that 7.9 percent of all births during 2008 -- that 340,000 figure -- were offspring of "unauthorized'' immigrants.

Researchers peg the number of illegal immigrants in the United States at something slightly in excess of 4 percent of the total population.

"But because they are relatively young and have high birth rates, their children make up a much larger share of the newborn population and the child population in this country,'' the report states.

The report does not say how many of those 5.1 million children of illegal immigrants are in Arizona.

But Jeff Passel, the senior demographer at Pew Hispanic Center, pointed to an earlier study which concluded that Arizona has about 4.2 percent of the total illegal immigrants in the entire country.

Using that as a rough estimate, that translates to more than 214,000 children from birth through age 17 in the state where at least one parent is not here legally. And, based on the Pew figures nationwide, about 170,000 of these would be considered "anchor babies'' born in this country.

That also tracks with estimates in previous Pew reports which show that up to 110,000 children in Arizona public schools were born in this country into families where one or both parents are undocumented, with possibly 65,000 more school children who are themselves illegal immigrants.

The numbers will figure in the debate over the future of the 14th Amendment.

It states that children born or naturalized in the United States are citizens of both this country and the state where they reside. Courts have interpreted that to entitle citizenship to those born in the United States regardless of whether one or both parents had no legal right to be here.

Some foes, including Sen. Russell Pearce, R-Mesa, argue those rulings are flawed.

He noted that the amendment makes its provisions conditional on the children being "subject to the jurisdiction'' of this country. Pearce said courts, citing that language, concluded for years that did not entitle Native Americans to citizenship.

"There's no doubt where they were born,'' he said.

It was only after Congress specifically altered the law regarding citizenship for Indians that the situation changed.

Pearce is weighing whether to have Arizona bring a new challenge to those court rulings.

That would take the form of a state law denying birth certificates to children born in Arizona unless they could show at least one parent is in this country legally. That likely would provoke a lawsuit.

But Pearce said a simpler course would be to have the issue handled at the federal level.

U.S. Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., is pushing to amend the Constitution to spell out that mere birth within U.S. borders does not entitle someone to citizenship. That process, though, is cumbersome, requiring either a constitutional convention or ratification of any change approved by two-thirds of the U.S. House and Senate by three-fourths of all state legislatures.

Pearce, however, said that's not necessary.

"Congress could fix it tomorrow,'' he said. "All it needs is clarification.''

He pointed out that the 14th Amendment, which also deals with issues of voting rights and who can hold office, also spells out that Congress "shall have power to enforce, by appropriate legislation, the provisions of this article.''

"So they put it in there in case there was some abuse, or something misunderstood,'' Pearce said.

Applicable language of 14th Amendment

All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

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#6. To: Red Jones (#0)

1 in 15 kids in U.S. has illegal immigrant parent

Rojo

Why are you bitching, these are your "good neighbors"?

Enjoy your political choices, you voted for Obama, this is what you wanted.

Flintlock  posted on  2010-08-12   0:21:25 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Flintlock (#6)

bitching

Bitching means complaining. I wasn't complaining. I only posted an article.

Red Jones  posted on  2010-08-12   0:28:11 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Red Jones (#8)

I wasn't complaining

Rojo

That's the point, you love these wetback invaders, don't you?

Flintlock  posted on  2010-08-12   0:45:11 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Flintlock (#10)

they're just ordinary people to me.

People under-estimate that you can't send them all home. Consider the ethnic mexicans who were born in our country, the ones whose families may go back generations. I know a mexican guy who is 78 years old and fought in the korean war. These ethnic mexicans who were born here will not tolerate seeing the illegals sent home. These ethnic mexicans don't want new illegals coming. but they will not allow the illegal mexicans to be sent back. it tears our country apart too much to send them back.

Red Jones  posted on  2010-08-12   0:53:11 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Red Jones (#12)

These ethnic mexicans who were born here will not tolerate seeing the illegals sent home.

That's why a number of them became Minutemen. Its why Cesar Chavez, the original Minuteman, sent his union thugs to the border with baseball bats.

Its why Cesar Chavez worked with INS to deport illegals. Its why a HUGE number of ethnic Mexicans are border patrol agents. Like Compean and Ramos if you remember them. I don't think 'Ramos' is a German or Slavic name, but I could be wrong.

They do all that because all ethnic Mexicans think alike and they don't want them sent home.

mirage  posted on  2010-08-12   4:52:38 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: mirage (#15)

if you really want to say and think stupid things because of your politics, then that's your choice. the passion that many Americans have against illegal immigrants among us is extremely divisive.

the ethnic mexicans who are in reality mexican-american and US citizens of which I speak do tend to agree with me that they do not want new illegals coming here. They also agree with me that they do not want guest workers. It is the whites who want guest workers and vote for politicians who will bring them. But when it comes to kicking out somebody who has been here for 15 years, holds a responsible job and has children here, then the ethnic mexicans are strongly opposed to kicking people like that out.

they recognize anti-mexican passion when they see it. and you are a fool not to be more aware of this.

Red Jones  posted on  2010-08-12   7:05:50 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Red Jones (#18) (Edited)

Red - switch to decaf and take a history class or three. You may just learn something.

Cesar Chavez DID send goons to the border WITH baseball bats and they DID beat the snot out of border crossers.

Just because you choose not to believe it or someone else chooses not to believe it does not make it false. It just means you or they or both are ignorant.

As for letting them stay, I'm all for it. Pay the $250,000 Selective Service fine and I'm happy.

What, you didn't know that is existing law? Check it out.

mirage  posted on  2010-08-12   8:23:58 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: mirage (#20)

Mirage - you're a nutcase. You've argued that mexican-americans want to see illegal immigrants sent back to their home countries and you've argued that Cesar Chavez felt this way. Mexican americans and Cesar Chavez are exactly like me. They want to see new illegals stopped from coming. They don't want to see people who've lived here and been a part of the community persecuted by deporting them. I live in arizona. I remember the big immigration protest a few years ago. Banners with the name Cesar Chavez were raised up by those people. and those people were protesting in favor of the existing illegal immigrants. You're a nutcase.

so cesar chavez opposed the flow of new people here? what else is new? That is very different from bashing the existing people who live here. If the psycho-nuts in our country can't accept the existing illegals out of their own racism and hatred, then we can't hope to achieve any sort of a solution to stop the new flows of people off. Gaining the consensus among us to stop new illegals and/or new guest workers from coming is easy. The mexican-americans are happy to go along with that. But if the deal includes kicking out all the existing illegals, then we'll never have a consensus.

You don't know anything about cesar chavez. you are an idiot. and I mean that very sincerely. why do people without brains participate in our national discussion? why are you so alienated from and ignorant of our realities that we live with in the southwest? Yet you insist on commenting.

Red Jones  posted on  2010-08-12   8:57:47 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: Red Jones (#21)

You've argued that mexican-americans want to see illegal immigrants sent back to their home countries and you've argued that Cesar Chavez felt this way.

Welcome to the truth.

Facts are inconvenient things. It doesn't matter what you think of me or what you think of reality. Truth is truth whether you like it or not.

mirage  posted on  2010-08-12   14:45:30 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: mirage (#43)

we have actual protests in arizona in favor of the illegals. they're almost all mexicans & mexican americans protesting. They are protesting that there be no deporting of people and to let the illegals stay. and they raise up banners sometimes with cesar chavez' name on it. you can convince me that cesar was against new illegals coming here. You are insane if you think that the ethnic mexican community wants to send them home. they do not, in overwhelming numbers. You live in a dream-world if you think otherwise.

if we want to solve this problem, then we must respect the sensibilities of the mexicans. You can't get agreement from the democrats unless you do this. if you don't get agreement from the democrats, then you'll get guest workers which is what the republicans want and which is worse than illegal immigrants.

and I don't think anything negative of you. I just think you're nuts.

Red Jones  posted on  2010-08-12   14:51:35 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: Red Jones, mirage (#44)

Just did a cursory search on Chavez. Here's what I found.

From: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C%C3%A9sar_Ch%C3%A1vez

On a few occasions, concerns that undocumented migrant labor would undermine UFW strike campaigns led to a number of controversial events, which the UFW describes as anti-strikebreaking events, but which have also been interpreted as being anti-immigrant. In 1969, Chávez and members of the UFW marched through the Imperial and Coachella Valleys to the border of Mexico to protest growers' use of undocumented immigrants as strikebreakers. Joining him on the march were both Reverend Ralph Abernathy and US Senator Walter Mondale.[6] In its early years, Chávez and the UFW went so far as to report undocumented immigrants who served as strikebreaking replacement workers, as well as those who refused to unionize, to the Immigration and Naturalization Service.[7][8][9][10][11]

SonOfLiberty  posted on  2010-08-12   14:58:44 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: SonOfLiberty, Red Jones (#46)

That is because Chavez was a Union Leader and while he championed the rights of legal immigrants, he also understood the laws of Supply and Demand. With an unlimited supply of cheap labor, Chavez would never be able to organize a union or get away with demanding better treatment or higher wages.

In short, Chavez understood reality and also argued for immigration restrictions.

The real history is very much different from the "folk tales" that people think they know. It always is. The sad thing is that too many people buy into the folk tales and never look at what really happened.

mirage  posted on  2010-08-12   15:03:34 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#52. To: mirage (#48)

that is all you have mirage. you're just a bluffer.

you have no real facts relating to our discussion. just obfuscation and unrelated claims?

mirage - something illusory, without substance or reality.

that is you.

I said that the ethnic mexicans were overwhelmingly behind the illegals who are already here and in the community. and that is 100% true. anyone who doesn't take that fact seriously is not interested in solving this issue. I never said 'all', you said that I said 'all'. and you offerred evidence of this labor union leader named Chavez from 1969?????? There's a huge difference between trying to stop new illegals from coming and kicking out the existing ones. You can't even get the 2 ideas straight in your mind as you've confused them.

discussion with you is an illusion. now I see why you selected your name.

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