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Title: How do Men and Women Ever Get Married?
Source: Unclebob's Treehouse
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Published: Aug 12, 2010
Author: Bob Wallace
Post Date: 2010-08-12 10:47:22 by Turtle
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Views: 5406
Comments: 133

About a month ago (as I write this) I read a comment, I believe by a man, who observed that he was astonished than men and women ever got together.

That jogged my memory about a time in college. I lived in a studio apartment attached to a two-story house with 11 or 12 girls in it. I lived there for a year and a half, so I had plenty of time to observe these women, all of whom were about 20 years old, give or take a few years.

I noticed something interesting: the few girls who were popular always talked to guys and showed they were interested in them. The girls who were not popular sat there like bumps on logs.

One of the log-bumps had one date in that year-and-a-half, and when he called for a second date she turned him down.

Another log-bump had no dates, but one guy did spend the night, since I heard them through my wall. He left in the morning and never came back.

One of the popular girls, one Thursday night I was sitting in her room, just passing the time. For some reason, and to this day I do not know why, I asked her how many guys had asked her out for the weekend.

“Seven,” she told me. I was speechless for a few seconds, then I asked her which one she was going out with. She told me the one she liked the best.

I thought, here is a friendly woman who did like guys, talked to them and was interested in what they had to say. And she had seven guys ask her out.

The other two girls – one date in a year-and-a-half for one, no dates for the other, just some guy who spend the night and never came back. And they never showed any friendliness toward guys, just the attitude they were supposed to sit there saying nothing and guys were supposed to approach them.

I sat in my classes, always in the back row, watching students. I never saw anyone talk to anyone else in any way that showed any kind of romantic interest. Not once did I see a girl smile at a guy. I remember thinking, how do these people think they are going to meet someone and get married?

Occasionally a guy would talk briefly to a girl, but she never responded with more than a few words.

One woman I know, who was very popular with guys, told me she had been asked by the other girls why she was so popular. She told me she couldn’t believe the question.

“All you have to do is be friendly and talk to them,” she told them. Apparently this simple concept had never occurred to any of them.

Probably the strangest thing about this time in college is that there were many more women than men, so you’d think the women would be competing for the men. I never saw it. What I saw, over and over, were girls by themselves on Friday and Saturday nights.

How did I know they were alone? Because I delivered pizzas for a year-and-a-half, including to the girls’ dorms, and was just amazed that all of them were there by themselves. Not hundreds. Thousands.

I suppose if I was to have asked them why they were alone, they might have responded, “There are no guys here,” an odd response at a university with about 9,000 guys.

What they really meant was, “There are no guys here I’d be interested in,” again an odd response with 9,000 available guys. Maybe they thought they’d just look at a guy and know he was the one – love at first sight? Price Charming, which means they thought they were princesses?

Since men usually approach women, women have to show themselves to be approachable. That’s what “friendly and smiling and interested” means. Again, in college, in classes, I never saw it.

I never saw it at parties, either. Just the log-bumps. Mostly I saw the log-bumps at nightclubs, too.

Oddly, I have noticed this attitude only among American women. With non-American women I have never seen it.

It’s one of the reasons white guys go out with Asian women (who are a lot friendlier and act more interested than almost all white American women), and of course many white women get hysterical about this, even though they themselves would not go out with this particular guy. It’s as if they’re saying, “Maybe I don’t want him, but no one else should, either.” This is some kind of weird envy or jealousy that I do not understand.

I know women who are in their 40s and 50s who are unmarried and childless, and are hostile toward men because of it. I wonder if it has never occurred to them they are in some way responsible for their predicament? Because they forgot how to smile?

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#93. To: abraxas (#92)

Just BE YOURSELF I say. : ) Of course, nobody is soliciting my sound advice.

That too. lol Usually I think the real me is a bit hard for them to take... lol

Heat wave... forest fires... Russia...... yet no sign of JohnA! :-P

irishthatcherite  posted on  2010-08-13   17:07:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#94. To: abraxas (#89)

Great Pyrenees/Mastiff or St. Bernard cross. Currently about 115 lb, but he's been heavier.

I throw the eggs in the rice while it's hot so they cook. Don't think I've fed him the shells in a while, not that he'd ever pause long enough to discern what he was wolfing down...

Samuel Gray  posted on  2010-08-13   17:14:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#95. To: irishthatcherite, abraxas, 4 (#93)

Like a girl told me long ago, "If we click, we click, if we don't we don't."

I did my level best to insure things clicked.

Lod  posted on  2010-08-13   17:19:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#96. To: irishthatcherite (#93)

You must have faith. Some of us are not for the faint of heart or the thin skinned. : )

Let them find a meek mate. There is no short supply of the meek.

"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations

abraxas  posted on  2010-08-13   17:20:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#97. To: Samuel Gray (#94)

That's a big dog. Please grind up the shells and throw them in as his diet is not sufficient in calcium carbonate without the shells or a supplement. : )

"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations

abraxas  posted on  2010-08-13   17:22:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#98. To: Lod (#95)

Like a girl told me long ago, "If we click, we click, if we don't we don't."

I suppose it comes down to that. lol

Heat wave... forest fires... Russia...... yet no sign of JohnA! :-P

irishthatcherite  posted on  2010-08-13   17:22:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#99. To: abraxas (#96)

You must have faith. Some of us are not for the faint of heart or the thin skinned. : )

Let them find a meek mate. There is no short supply of the meek.

Someone who knows what it means to be human I suppose. lol

Heat wave... forest fires... Russia...... yet no sign of JohnA! :-P

irishthatcherite  posted on  2010-08-13   17:23:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#100. To: irishthatcherite (#99)

Someone who knows what it means to be human I suppose. lol

As you are should be more than enough. Don't let anybody tell you that you need to be less.

I've been told that I'm too smart for crying out loud. It's intimidating. (eyes rolling) Well, I'm not dumbing down for anybody.

"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations

abraxas  posted on  2010-08-13   17:26:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#101. To: abraxas (#100)

As you are should be more than enough. Don't let anybody tell you that you need to be less.

I'm most worried about the ones who expect you to be more. lol

I've been told that I'm too smart for crying out loud. It's intimidating. (eyes rolling) Well, I'm not dumbing down for anybody.

It's a funny one that - a surplus of a good point is considered a turn-off. I would imagine it's either an excuse (they are good at inventing excuses) ie an excuse that sounds like a compliment, or they are insecure about it.

Heat wave... forest fires... Russia...... yet no sign of JohnA! :-P

irishthatcherite  posted on  2010-08-13   17:42:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#102. To: irishthatcherite (#101) (Edited)

I'm most worried about the ones who expect you to be more. lol

Expectations are a tricky thing too. The root of all disappointment. : )

Could just be an excuse. There is no shortage of those.

"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations

abraxas  posted on  2010-08-13   17:47:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#103. To: abraxas (#102)

Expectations are a tricking thing too. The root of all disappointment. : )

Those kind are serial offenders too - takes them years and years to figure out why they are getting no where. lol

Heat wave... forest fires... Russia...... yet no sign of JohnA! :-P

irishthatcherite  posted on  2010-08-13   17:50:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#104. To: abraxas (#100)

Too smart?

That's just stupid.

A mental, as well as a physical, turn-on is perfect.

It doesn't get any better than that.

Lod  posted on  2010-08-13   17:55:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#105. To: irishthatcherite (#81)

but I think your comment turns that on it's head - it's not that a man can appear "obvious", it's that many women assume that a man trying to have a conversation with her is 'trying it on'.

Yep. And like you, I was always wondering WTF was going on with everything. I ain't no pretty boy, but I'm not repulsive either. So it had nothing to do with how I looked or what I said, or how I said it, because there was never an ulterior motive in talking to them.

Then I figured it out.

And the exceptions to that rule I didn't want to mess with either because I was so disgusted with the whole thing. I got over it but it wasn't easy.

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I've listened to preachers I've listened to fools I've watched all the dropouts Who make their own rules One person conditioned to rule and control The media sells it and you live the role ~Ozzy Osbourne: Crazy Train

PSUSA  posted on  2010-08-13   18:09:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#106. To: Lod (#79)

A search for the saying 'all the good men are either married or gay' returned almost 1.5T, that's a T, results.

Amazing.

Wow.

It looks like they are trying to find an excuse of why men don't want to bother with them. The problem is internal, not external, imo.

If they would put the effort into just being nice that they put into buying and putting on their warpaint and getting botox and their boobs enlarged to ridiculous and sometimes comical proportions, they might see a difference.

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I've listened to preachers I've listened to fools I've watched all the dropouts Who make their own rules One person conditioned to rule and control The media sells it and you live the role ~Ozzy Osbourne: Crazy Train

PSUSA  posted on  2010-08-13   18:23:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#107. To: PSUSA (#105)

Yep. And like you, I was always wondering WTF was going on with everything. I ain't no pretty boy, but I'm not repulsive either. So it had nothing to do with how I looked or what I said, or how I said it, because there was never an ulterior motive in talking to them.

Then I figured it out.

And the exceptions to that rule I didn't want to mess with either because I was so disgusted with the whole thing. I got over it but it wasn't easy.

Hehe.. it can get to a point where you're worried because you idly glance around a room and happen to catch a girl's eye. lol "He randomly caught my eye.. he must be trying it on." lol

Heat wave... forest fires... Russia...... yet no sign of JohnA! :-P

irishthatcherite  posted on  2010-08-13   18:36:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#108. To: X-15, christine, Jethro_Tull, HAPPY2BME-4UM, PSUSA, Lod, Turtle, Cynicom, purplerose (#0)

Today is our 33rd wedding anniversary and I'm too...something....(happy? yeah, that's it) to get involved in this chat.

It's ironic that a happily married man has so little to live for after 33 years....

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2010-08-13   18:42:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#109. To: abraxas (#92)

Just BE YOURSELF I say. : ) Of course, nobody is soliciting my sound advice.

Sage advice, to snare a wonderful woman. That said, there are like 0.01% left of wonderful women. If most guys "be themselves" as in act according to their true nature, they'll be shunned.

I'm not talking about guys burping and farting and being gross, I'm talking about guys being somewhat aggressive, yet shy in a way, opening doors, being courteous, all that.

"The more artificial taboos and restrictions there are in the world, the more the people are impoverished.... The more that laws and regulations are given prominence, the more thieves and robbers there will be." - Lao Tzu, 6th century BC

SonOfLiberty  posted on  2010-08-13   18:42:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#110. To: HOUNDDAWG (#108)

You have lots to live for, and you know it, dude. You ain't kidding anybody. :)

"The more artificial taboos and restrictions there are in the world, the more the people are impoverished.... The more that laws and regulations are given prominence, the more thieves and robbers there will be." - Lao Tzu, 6th century BC

SonOfLiberty  posted on  2010-08-13   18:58:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#111. To: irishthatcherite (#107)

Hehe.. it can get to a point where you're worried because you idly glance around a room and happen to catch a girl's eye. lol "He randomly caught my eye.. he must be trying it on." lol

So give a sinister smile and admit to it. Nothing attracts like a "bad boy", yo. ;)

"The more artificial taboos and restrictions there are in the world, the more the people are impoverished.... The more that laws and regulations are given prominence, the more thieves and robbers there will be." - Lao Tzu, 6th century BC

SonOfLiberty  posted on  2010-08-13   19:00:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#112. To: SonOfLiberty (#111)

So give a sinister smile and admit to it. Nothing attracts like a "bad boy", yo. ;)

Maybe I'll play the stalker card and just stare at her. lol

Heat wave... forest fires... Russia...... yet no sign of JohnA! :-P

irishthatcherite  posted on  2010-08-13   19:02:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#113. To: irishthatcherite (#112)

No, stalkers never satisfy. You have to go with "I may well be evil, hon" to get the full response.

Seriously, you do. No harm, but when you flirt, don't give away anything except "I'm probably capable of bad things...ish".

"The more artificial taboos and restrictions there are in the world, the more the people are impoverished.... The more that laws and regulations are given prominence, the more thieves and robbers there will be." - Lao Tzu, 6th century BC

SonOfLiberty  posted on  2010-08-13   19:05:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#114. To: irishthatcherite (#112)

There's always the old standby: lick the back of your platinum AmEx and stick it to your forehead while sitting at the bar...

Samuel Gray  posted on  2010-08-13   19:08:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#115. To: HOUNDDAWG (#108)

Today is our 33rd wedding anniversary and I'm too...something..

Hound...

Congrats, you fooled her all these years???? You aint rich????

We been there over 55 years, so long ago that I have forgotten why it was we got married. There must have been something, some reason?

Cynicom  posted on  2010-08-13   19:08:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#116. To: Samuel Gray (#114)

There's always the old standby: lick the back of your platinum AmEx and stick it to your forehead while sitting at the bar...

I don't use credit cards... will my ATM card work? lol

Heat wave... forest fires... Russia...... yet no sign of JohnA! :-P

irishthatcherite  posted on  2010-08-13   19:11:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#117. To: SonOfLiberty (#113)

No, stalkers never satisfy. You have to go with "I may well be evil, hon" to get the full response.

Seriously, you do. No harm, but when you flirt, don't give away anything except "I'm probably capable of bad things...ish".

True.. it never seems to work for those extreme fans who stalk celebs. lol

Whereas, that latter worked for many... lol

Heat wave... forest fires... Russia...... yet no sign of JohnA! :-P

irishthatcherite  posted on  2010-08-13   19:13:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#118. To: Cynicom (#115)

We been there over 55 years, so long ago that I have forgotten why it was we got married. There must have been something, some reason?

As Mr. Spock's father said when explaining why he married Spock's human mother, "It seemed like the thing to do at the time...."

And congratulations on your many years together.

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2010-08-13   21:30:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#119. To: irishthatcherite, 4 (#99)

A friend, way back when, hooked up with a female person who wanted to take a picture of her lovers all ready to go.

She had them put an album cover in front of their face before taking the picture.

True story.

(You, or at least I, cannot make up stuff like this.)

Lod  posted on  2010-08-13   21:39:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#120. To: Samuel Gray (#114)

Yes, licking your eyebrows, with, or without plastic, often works.

Lod  posted on  2010-08-13   21:44:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#121. To: All (#120)

Lod  posted on  2010-08-13   21:48:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#122. To: HOUNDDAWG (#108)

33 years!! Happy Anniversary to you and Mrs Hounddawg, that's quite an accomplishment in these times.

__________________________________________________________
"This man is Jesus,” shouted one man, spilling his Guinness as Barack Obama began his inaugural address. “When will he come to Kenya to save us?"

“The best and first guarantor of our neutrality and our independent existence is the defensive will of the people…and the proverbial marksmanship of the Swiss shooter. Each soldier a good marksman! Each shot a hit!”
-Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941

X-15  posted on  2010-08-13   22:25:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#123. To: HOUNDDAWG (#108)

Happy Anniversary to you and Mrs. Hounddawg!!!

"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations

abraxas  posted on  2010-08-13   22:57:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#124. To: Cynicom (#115)

We been there over 55 years, so long ago that I have forgotten why it was we got married. There must have been something, some reason?

that's funny ;)

christine  posted on  2010-08-13   23:08:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#125. To: abraxas (#64)

Large Marge Avenue?

Sweaty Betty Street?

Porky Parkway?

: )

Clayton Ave.

So there!

“How many Sex and the City fans have funneled all their maternal instincts into their Chinese bulldog without even noticing their ovaries have expired?”

Turtle  posted on  2010-08-14   10:54:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#126. To: Turtle (#125)

Turtle Soup Ave.

hehehehehehehehehehehe

Cynicom  posted on  2010-08-14   10:56:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#127. To: abraxas (#67)

When I pointed her out to a friend of mine, he said, "Oh God, Oh God no! This is NOT fair!"

That was your blind friend. He was talking about you stealing his cane.

He was eaten up with envy because she was so good-looking.

So there!

“How many Sex and the City fans have funneled all their maternal instincts into their Chinese bulldog without even noticing their ovaries have expired?”

Turtle  posted on  2010-08-14   11:02:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#128. To: abraxas (#65)

Then 4 am, Turtle. I'm underwelmed at your ability to get his timing right after all these years. : )

This was a three-hour girl, which is why it had to be only on Friday and Saturday nights.

Some of the things I have to explaing to you...

“How many Sex and the City fans have funneled all their maternal instincts into their Chinese bulldog without even noticing their ovaries have expired?”

Turtle  posted on  2010-08-14   11:05:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#129. To: Cynicom (#126)

Turtle Soup Ave.

hehehehehehehehehehehe

That's where I currently live.

“How many Sex and the City fans have funneled all their maternal instincts into their Chinese bulldog without even noticing their ovaries have expired?”

Turtle  posted on  2010-08-14   11:06:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#130. To: Turtle (#129)

That's where I currently live.

Do not.

Tom has a photo of you and your "home", will try to get him to post it.

Cynicom  posted on  2010-08-14   11:08:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#131. To: abraxas (#64)

Large Marge Avenue?

Sweaty Betty Street?

Porky Parkway?

: )

Turtle has never slept with a large Marge. Ugh! The shortest one was shorter than you -- 4'9" and weighed 85 pounds.

The largest one was about 5'8" and 140 pounds.

No porkers, so sweaters, yech!

So there!

“How many Sex and the City fans have funneled all their maternal instincts into their Chinese bulldog without even noticing their ovaries have expired?”

Turtle  posted on  2010-08-14   11:16:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#132. To: Turtle, abraxas (#131)

No porkers, so sweaters, yech!

See how you are? and I thought you loved me.


"Every Person born within the limits of the United States, and subject to their jurisdiction, is by virtue of natural law and national law a citizen of the United States. This will not, of course, include persons born in the United States who are foreigners, aliens, who belong to the families of ambassadors or foreign ministers accredited to the Government of the United States, but will include every other class of persons.
Senator Jacob Howard, Co-author of the citizenship clause of the 14th Amendment, 1866.

farmfriend  posted on  2010-08-14   11:35:26 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#133. To: farmfriend (#132)

No porkers, so sweaters, yech!

See how you are? and I thought you loved me.

I'll mae an exception in your case.

Turtle is nothing if not noble.

“How many Sex and the City fans have funneled all their maternal instincts into their Chinese bulldog without even noticing their ovaries have expired?”

Turtle  posted on  2010-08-14   11:37:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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