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Title: How do Men and Women Ever Get Married?
Source: Unclebob's Treehouse
URL Source: [None]
Published: Aug 12, 2010
Author: Bob Wallace
Post Date: 2010-08-12 10:47:22 by Turtle
Keywords: None
Views: 5438
Comments: 133

About a month ago (as I write this) I read a comment, I believe by a man, who observed that he was astonished than men and women ever got together.

That jogged my memory about a time in college. I lived in a studio apartment attached to a two-story house with 11 or 12 girls in it. I lived there for a year and a half, so I had plenty of time to observe these women, all of whom were about 20 years old, give or take a few years.

I noticed something interesting: the few girls who were popular always talked to guys and showed they were interested in them. The girls who were not popular sat there like bumps on logs.

One of the log-bumps had one date in that year-and-a-half, and when he called for a second date she turned him down.

Another log-bump had no dates, but one guy did spend the night, since I heard them through my wall. He left in the morning and never came back.

One of the popular girls, one Thursday night I was sitting in her room, just passing the time. For some reason, and to this day I do not know why, I asked her how many guys had asked her out for the weekend.

“Seven,” she told me. I was speechless for a few seconds, then I asked her which one she was going out with. She told me the one she liked the best.

I thought, here is a friendly woman who did like guys, talked to them and was interested in what they had to say. And she had seven guys ask her out.

The other two girls – one date in a year-and-a-half for one, no dates for the other, just some guy who spend the night and never came back. And they never showed any friendliness toward guys, just the attitude they were supposed to sit there saying nothing and guys were supposed to approach them.

I sat in my classes, always in the back row, watching students. I never saw anyone talk to anyone else in any way that showed any kind of romantic interest. Not once did I see a girl smile at a guy. I remember thinking, how do these people think they are going to meet someone and get married?

Occasionally a guy would talk briefly to a girl, but she never responded with more than a few words.

One woman I know, who was very popular with guys, told me she had been asked by the other girls why she was so popular. She told me she couldn’t believe the question.

“All you have to do is be friendly and talk to them,” she told them. Apparently this simple concept had never occurred to any of them.

Probably the strangest thing about this time in college is that there were many more women than men, so you’d think the women would be competing for the men. I never saw it. What I saw, over and over, were girls by themselves on Friday and Saturday nights.

How did I know they were alone? Because I delivered pizzas for a year-and-a-half, including to the girls’ dorms, and was just amazed that all of them were there by themselves. Not hundreds. Thousands.

I suppose if I was to have asked them why they were alone, they might have responded, “There are no guys here,” an odd response at a university with about 9,000 guys.

What they really meant was, “There are no guys here I’d be interested in,” again an odd response with 9,000 available guys. Maybe they thought they’d just look at a guy and know he was the one – love at first sight? Price Charming, which means they thought they were princesses?

Since men usually approach women, women have to show themselves to be approachable. That’s what “friendly and smiling and interested” means. Again, in college, in classes, I never saw it.

I never saw it at parties, either. Just the log-bumps. Mostly I saw the log-bumps at nightclubs, too.

Oddly, I have noticed this attitude only among American women. With non-American women I have never seen it.

It’s one of the reasons white guys go out with Asian women (who are a lot friendlier and act more interested than almost all white American women), and of course many white women get hysterical about this, even though they themselves would not go out with this particular guy. It’s as if they’re saying, “Maybe I don’t want him, but no one else should, either.” This is some kind of weird envy or jealousy that I do not understand.

I know women who are in their 40s and 50s who are unmarried and childless, and are hostile toward men because of it. I wonder if it has never occurred to them they are in some way responsible for their predicament? Because they forgot how to smile?

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#1. To: Turtle (#0)

It’s as if they’re saying, “Maybe I don’t want him, but no one else should, either.”

Same thing with ex-boyfriends.

That's what feminism is. To a feminist, every man is an ex-boyfriend.

Prefrontal Vortex  posted on  2010-08-12   12:01:11 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Prefrontal Vortex (#1)

To a feminist, every man is an ex-boyfriend

That's been my experience with liberal females, which basically means "feminist."

Turtle  posted on  2010-08-12   12:02:52 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Turtle (#2)

Turtle

Social engineering is NOT your strong suit. Better you stick to delivering pizzas. It pays good also.

Cynicom  posted on  2010-08-12   12:06:34 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Cynicom (#3)

Social engineering is NOT your strong suit.

Turtle is NEVER wrong.

Turtle  posted on  2010-08-12   12:08:04 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Turtle (#4)

When I delivered pizza, if the lady of the house answered the doorbell in her house dress, in some cases I gave them a tip...(wink wink)

Cynicom  posted on  2010-08-12   12:10:43 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Cynicom (#5)

When I delivered pizza

I had girls ask me to bring them free leftover pizza when I got off of work.

I told them I got off at 2 am, but they said they'd still be up.

I never took them up on it. I never knew if they were interested in me or the pizza ;-)

Turtle  posted on  2010-08-12   12:27:38 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Turtle (#7)

I never took them up on it. I never knew if they were interested in me or the pizza ;-)

I put odds on the pizza.

Just my opinion of course.

Cynicom  posted on  2010-08-12   12:29:59 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Cynicom (#10)

I put odds on the pizza.

I wasn't going to any girl's apartment at 2 am after I worked eight hours and was tired.

Turtle  posted on  2010-08-12   12:32:27 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Turtle, Cynicom (#11)

I wasn't going to any girl's apartment at 2 am after I worked eight hours and was tired.

What was wrong with the Betty? You aren't telling us the whole truth her Turtle. For some girls, it's never too late and there is no such thing as too tired.

I bet she was large, unclean or ugly--maybe all three. : )

Who does Turtle think he's fooling here Cyni?

abraxas  posted on  2010-08-12   19:19:55 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: abraxas (#17)

I wasn't going to any girl's apartment at 2 am after I worked eight hours and was tired.

What was wrong with the Betty? You aren't telling us the whole truth her Turtle. For some girls, it's never too late and there is no such thing as too tired.

I have no large Marge stories to tell.

What the heck is a Betty anyway?

I left at two in the morning, went home, went to sleep for a few hours, go up, drove a school bus, then went to college class. Then I went to work delivering pizzas and got off about 1:30 am.

And you wonder why I didn't go back over to her apartment that night?

Turtle  posted on  2010-08-13   10:43:25 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: Turtle (#19)

And you wonder why I didn't go back over to her apartment that night?

Lighten up. : )

I'll stick with my premise that if the girl was attractive to you, then you would not be too tired or too anything to drop in for a 2 am visit. Of course, this is granting that this story took place in your early 20's and not your early 40's.

abraxas  posted on  2010-08-13   13:51:05 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: abraxas (#40)

What do early 40's have to do with it? ;)

Any early 40 year old who isn't rushing out to meet up with a hottie, is already a member of the walking dead.

SonOfLiberty  posted on  2010-08-13   13:53:30 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: SonOfLiberty (#43)

Any early 40 year old who isn't rushing out to meet up with a hottie, is already a member of the walking dead.

My point of argument with Turtle is that the girl in this tall tale was no "hottie" and most likely not even a "warmie".....

An early 40's man is more discriminating than the 20 year old man. He also has learned the value of rescheduling those 2 AM get togethers to 5am just before he needs to go drive the school bus. By 40, he has mastered the fine art of TIMING. : )

abraxas  posted on  2010-08-13   13:59:26 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: abraxas (#49)

My point of argument with Turtle is that the girl in this tall tale was no "hottie" and most likely not even a "warmie"....

When I pointed her out to a friend of mine, he said, "Oh God, Oh God no! This is NOT fair!"

Turtle  posted on  2010-08-13   14:04:25 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#67. To: Turtle (#50)

When I pointed her out to a friend of mine, he said, "Oh God, Oh God no! This is NOT fair!"

That was your blind friend. He was talking about you stealing his cane.

abraxas  posted on  2010-08-13   14:30:12 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#68. To: abraxas (#67)

That was your blind friend. He was talking about you stealing his cane.

hehehehehehehehe

Cynicom  posted on  2010-08-13 14:34:44 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#69. To: abraxas (#67)

He was talking about you stealing his cane.

Not to mention his good and faithful seeing-eye dog, the one he had had for years.

James Deffenbach  posted on  2010-08-13 14:35:28 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#127. To: abraxas (#67)

When I pointed her out to a friend of mine, he said, "Oh God, Oh God no! This is NOT fair!"

That was your blind friend. He was talking about you stealing his cane.

He was eaten up with envy because she was so good-looking.

So there!

Turtle  posted on  2010-08-14 11:02:34 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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