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Title: How do Men and Women Ever Get Married?
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Published: Aug 12, 2010
Author: Bob Wallace
Post Date: 2010-08-12 10:47:22 by Turtle
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About a month ago (as I write this) I read a comment, I believe by a man, who observed that he was astonished than men and women ever got together. That jogged my memory about a time in college. I lived in a studio apartment attached to a two-story house with 11 or 12 girls in it. I lived there for a year and a half, so I had plenty of time to observe these women, all of whom were about 20 years old, give or take a few years. I noticed something interesting: the few girls who were popular always talked to guys and showed they were interested in them. The girls who were not popular sat there like bumps on logs. One of the log-bumps had one date in that year-and-a-half, and when he called for a second date she turned him down. Another log-bump had no dates, but one guy did spend the night, since I heard them through my wall. He left in the morning and never came back. One of the popular girls, one Thursday night I was sitting in her room, just passing the time. For some reason, and to this day I do not know why, I asked her how many guys had asked her out for the weekend. “Seven,” she told me. I was speechless for a few seconds, then I asked her which one she was going out with. She told me the one she liked the best. I thought, here is a friendly woman who did like guys, talked to them and was interested in what they had to say. And she had seven guys ask her out. The other two girls – one date in a year-and-a-half for one, no dates for the other, just some guy who spend the night and never came back. And they never showed any friendliness toward guys, just the attitude they were supposed to sit there saying nothing and guys were supposed to approach them. I sat in my classes, always in the back row, watching students. I never saw anyone talk to anyone else in any way that showed any kind of romantic interest. Not once did I see a girl smile at a guy. I remember thinking, how do these people think they are going to meet someone and get married? Occasionally a guy would talk briefly to a girl, but she never responded with more than a few words. One woman I know, who was very popular with guys, told me she had been asked by the other girls why she was so popular. She told me she couldn’t believe the question. “All you have to do is be friendly and talk to them,” she told them. Apparently this simple concept had never occurred to any of them. Probably the strangest thing about this time in college is that there were many more women than men, so you’d think the women would be competing for the men. I never saw it. What I saw, over and over, were girls by themselves on Friday and Saturday nights. How did I know they were alone? Because I delivered pizzas for a year-and-a-half, including to the girls’ dorms, and was just amazed that all of them were there by themselves. Not hundreds. Thousands. I suppose if I was to have asked them why they were alone, they might have responded, “There are no guys here,” an odd response at a university with about 9,000 guys. What they really meant was, “There are no guys here I’d be interested in,” again an odd response with 9,000 available guys. Maybe they thought they’d just look at a guy and know he was the one – love at first sight? Price Charming, which means they thought they were princesses? Since men usually approach women, women have to show themselves to be approachable. That’s what “friendly and smiling and interested” means. Again, in college, in classes, I never saw it. I never saw it at parties, either. Just the log-bumps. Mostly I saw the log-bumps at nightclubs, too. Oddly, I have noticed this attitude only among American women. With non-American women I have never seen it. It’s one of the reasons white guys go out with Asian women (who are a lot friendlier and act more interested than almost all white American women), and of course many white women get hysterical about this, even though they themselves would not go out with this particular guy. It’s as if they’re saying, “Maybe I don’t want him, but no one else should, either.” This is some kind of weird envy or jealousy that I do not understand. I know women who are in their 40s and 50s who are unmarried and childless, and are hostile toward men because of it. I wonder if it has never occurred to them they are in some way responsible for their predicament? Because they forgot how to smile?
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#1. To: Turtle (#0)
Same thing with ex-boyfriends. That's what feminism is. To a feminist, every man is an ex-boyfriend.
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That's been my experience with liberal females, which basically means "feminist."
“How many Sex and the City fans have funneled all their maternal instincts into their Chinese bulldog without even noticing their ovaries have expired?”
Turtle Social engineering is NOT your strong suit. Better you stick to delivering pizzas. It pays good also.
Turtle is NEVER wrong.
“How many Sex and the City fans have funneled all their maternal instincts into their Chinese bulldog without even noticing their ovaries have expired?”
When I delivered pizza, if the lady of the house answered the doorbell in her house dress, in some cases I gave them a tip...(wink wink)
But their mistake is thinking that I want them They seem to think that every possible interaction is an attempt to get into their pants. They made themselves unapproachable, so I made myself that way too, even towards women that were interested in me. They're not worth it in the long term. Pussy is the only thing they have to offer, and there is a huge surplus in that market. It's just not that valuable. Anyone can get laid. The lack of dramatics alone is priceless. .
Click for Privacy and Preparedness files Live free or I had girls ask me to bring them free leftover pizza when I got off of work. I told them I got off at 2 am, but they said they'd still be up. I never took them up on it. I never knew if they were interested in me or the pizza ;-)
“How many Sex and the City fans have funneled all their maternal instincts into their Chinese bulldog without even noticing their ovaries have expired?”
suc·cinct (sk-sngkt) adj. suc·cinct·er, suc·cinct·est 1. Characterized by clear, precise expression in few words; concise and terse: a succinct reply; a succinct style.
I am amazed at that. I meet women 250 to 400 pounds who think men are flirting with them, are interested in them, and trying to get them into bed.
“How many Sex and the City fans have funneled all their maternal instincts into their Chinese bulldog without even noticing their ovaries have expired?”
I put odds on the pizza. Just my opinion of course.
I wasn't going to any girl's apartment at 2 am after I worked eight hours and was tired.
“How many Sex and the City fans have funneled all their maternal instincts into their Chinese bulldog without even noticing their ovaries have expired?”
Nonsense.
I wasn't going to any girl's apartment at 2 am after I worked eight hours and was tired. Nonsense. I left one's girl's apartment about two am and she asked me to come over when I got off of work that night, about 2 am. I told her I couldn't do it because I would be too tired. So there.
“How many Sex and the City fans have funneled all their maternal instincts into their Chinese bulldog without even noticing their ovaries have expired?”
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. He (Gordon Duff) also implies that forcibly removing Obama, a Constitution-hating, on-the-down-low, crackhead Communist, is an attack on America, Mom, and apple pie. I swear these military people are worse than useless. Just look around at the condition of the country and tell me if they have fulfilled their oaths to protect the nation from all enemies foreign and domestic. I was going thru facebook today, looking up my HS class. I graduated in '82 and just turned 46. Going thru that was an eye opener. Some of those people look like they're well into their 60's. My mom looks younger than some of them. All that stress is killing them. And I bet it's all because they bought into the "you gotta do X, Y and Z or you're a loser" argument. If being single means I'm a loser, then fine, I'm a loser. I am amazed at that. I meet women 250 to 400 pounds who think men are flirting with them, are interested in them, and trying to get them into bed. I'm also talking about the average sized/average looks female. They all do it. Are some men only interested in sex? Yep. But women are more perceptive than men are. They know when someone is interested only in that. But for some reason they are under a delusion that all men are after sex only. ANd I dont have the time or inclination to find an exception to this rule. I know they're out there, but I just don't give a damn.
Click for Privacy and Preparedness files Live free or The large Marges always think that the really skinny guys want them. I can't imagine them continuing with this line of thinking if the results didn't actually prove them right. Often I see these large Marges with a skinny little boyfriend or hubby. I knew one up on Montana.....she was REALLY huge. Her skinny little hubby DeLyle dotes on her. One day she was taking a bath in the double wide and the tub fell right through the floor. They had a hell of a time getting Cindy out of the hole. I think perhaps because the help was afraid to see her naked. Do you have a couple of large Marge stories to share Turtle? : )
"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations
What was wrong with the Betty? You aren't telling us the whole truth her Turtle. For some girls, it's never too late and there is no such thing as too tired. I bet she was large, unclean or ugly--maybe all three. : ) Who does Turtle think he's fooling here Cyni?
"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations
With that way of thinking, its no wonder one stays single. Women have more to offer than just pussy. Many of us ladies are highly intelligent and therefore refuse to marry (or date) men who look and smell like almost anything goes. Us ladies have to be selective in choosing our mates. It is one thing for us to be friendly but not so "friendly" that we are sending out mixed messages. You see today's men have not been raised properly to respect ladies as they were raised back in the earlier times. Young men back in the earlier times held the door open for the lady, made certain that she walked to his left side when walking on a public street, so as to prevent her from being mistaken for a prostitute or getting splashed on by mud etc. Men back in the earlier times were gentlemen and taught to respect women. The feminist movement changed this and is partly the reason why people don't marry anymore. The purpose of the feminists movement was to discourage people from marrying and population control.
I wasn't going to any girl's apartment at 2 am after I worked eight hours and was tired. What was wrong with the Betty? You aren't telling us the whole truth her Turtle. For some girls, it's never too late and there is no such thing as too tired. I have no large Marge stories to tell. What the heck is a Betty anyway? I left at two in the morning, went home, went to sleep for a few hours, go up, drove a school bus, then went to college class. Then I went to work delivering pizzas and got off about 1:30 am. And you wonder why I didn't go back over to her apartment that night?
“How many Sex and the City fans have funneled all their maternal instincts into their Chinese bulldog without even noticing their ovaries have expired?”
You're right in a certain sense. What's left out is the treatment of men by your feminist sisters. It's happened to me, and many men, that when we open the door for a woman, she scowls and growls, or worse, kicks us in the shin (happened to a friend of mine), barking off "who do you think you are?!?" or some such garbage. And then the family courts. Lots of us guys were, unfortunately, raised in single parent homes. What I mean by that is that our "liberated and don't need no man no how" mothers in the 1970's took us under their wings and pussified the living shit out of a lot of us. Not only were manners not taught, but "live for the day, you can't do wrong, if you have a booboo it's somebody else's fault nobody should ever have to learn from experience" was the philosophy. Add to this young boys watching the legal system literally destroy their fathers, remove them from their life except as bit actors, precisely at a time when young boys need to be around their fathers more than they need to be around their mothers, when they need to learn to shake it off and drive on instead of being coddled, and well, you see the results now. What kind of male wouldn't take the lesson from this "you will grow up to be useless and destroyed, get used to it kid". What kind of male wants to be like dad, when dad commits suicide after being driven into abject poverty by our "fair and balanced family court system"? So yes, you're right, that's what the feminist movement was after, family destruction. And now, we're reaping it wholesale. And the women continue in their roles of "superior to all men" despite evidence to the contrary. Television routinely conditions men to accept being the weakling, men now need the rescuing, 250 pound men are routinely kicked through the air by 89 pound thin rail women, engineer/scientist roles are now almost exclusively filled by women in movies/television (and if a man is present in that role, he's a villain) and men are generally denigrated. Many are starting to believe it, despite unbiased test scores in academia showing superior results from males and physical contests never being "equal" in a real sense because, frankly, men would win them all if they were. It's funny in a sense. I'm 6'3", 235 pounds, lift weights and am martially trained. I've yet to meet a single female who can cause any kind of major pain, short of a nut kick, in any kind of martial contest. Men are faster to react, more aggressive, much stronger and much better at physical conflict. Where is that represented today? Nowhere. We're weak, we're useless, we're dumb, we're animals who need to be rescued or led along by the nose. Meh. Feminism has nearly destroyed the male identity in a psychological sense, but it can't change how we're hard wired. And thus the angst, anger and underlying sense of injustice a lot of men are starting to feel across the West. That said, I still open doors for women (or men carrying large loads), I still smile and flirt politely, I defer to a woman for a bus seat in all cases, and all that. And I'm teaching my son the same. But I'm also making it a job to point out every single instance of anti-male conditioning we see in movies, literature or television.
"The more artificial taboos and restrictions there are in the world, the more the people are impoverished.... The more that laws and regulations are given prominence, the more thieves and robbers there will be." - Lao Tzu, 6th century BC
82 eh? 85 here. Just attended my class reunion a few weeks ago. Same results you note, with an exception here or there. One exception was a girl who had an absolute crush on me from middle school through high school. She was absolutely drop dead gorgeous. Think a young non-plastic Angelina Jolie, with natural blond hair, that kind of beauty. She's 42/43 like me, but she doesn't look a day over 30 and she clearly has had no "upgrade alterations". She's one of the few success stories from my high school class, besides myself and two other people. She's a director of a very locally famous and profitable arts troupe, has a sharp mind and a wonderful, gentle sense of humor and a beautiful demeanor. At the time of high school I was living in a situation where my parents were divorced, a horrible legal and psychological torture that started when I was 11, both more or less abandoned me to my fate by age 13 forward (but, of course, kept and protected my sister), I was living on and off with friends or my sick grandparents, and was working jobs to try and feed myself. I had NO clue she actually liked me. Some of her friends at the time told me, but my self esteem was so shot and my expectations in life so low, and I thought that she or her friends were just trying to lead me on to make fun of me, because there was no way a girl that beautiful would ever be interested in a rejected-by-his-parents useless, unwanted and undesirable nobody like me. We are now both married, but stood and talked quietly the for a long time under a canopy of trees while sipping wine. Nothing untoward, unbecoming, disrespectful or wrong happened, naturally, but it was pleasant to talk to her and realize that, no, her friends at the time weren't lying. There are times when you look back and wonder "if just one thing changed what would have happened". I don't have those moments often, but I did a few weeks ago. Why in the hell am I reminiscing? What was the topic of the post again?
"The more artificial taboos and restrictions there are in the world, the more the people are impoverished.... The more that laws and regulations are given prominence, the more thieves and robbers there will be." - Lao Tzu, 6th century BC
I never said that you were under any obligation to date or marry anyone. You can refuse all you want. It's not the refusals I'm talking about. What I'm talking about is the refusals when no offer has been made for them to even refuse. Its the attitude that bothers me. It is one thing for us to be friendly but not so "friendly" that we are sending out mixed messages. You're right, that can be a problem. I already said that women are more perceptive than men are. From a womans perspective, I suppose we're rather dense when it comes to interpreting these signals either by seeing signals that aren't there or missing the ones that are there. But, while you make a valid point, it's not the argument I was making. You see today's men have not been raised properly to respect ladies as they were raised back in the earlier times. Young men back in the earlier times held the door open for the lady, made certain that she walked to his left side when walking on a public street, so as to prevent her from being mistaken for a prostitute or getting splashed on by mud etc. And women were raised to appreciate it, and to CONTRIBUTE TO THEIR PART in the relationship. They don't appreciate it anymore. So why should I or any other man bother? They can open their own doors, thank you very much. Instead of seeing it as a courtesy, they see it as entitlement due them simply because they were born with a vagina. The feminist movement changed this and is partly the reason why people don't marry anymore. The purpose of the feminists movement was to discourage people from marrying and population control. Let's just drop the pretense here. The purpose of feminism was to destroy the family. They succeeded. And the courts make damn sure that the woman basically has the ability to destroy the mans life. Marriage is all risk and no benefit for the man. But to those men that disagree, then disagree. If you're married to one of the good ones, count yourself as being fortunate. .
Click for Privacy and Preparedness files Live free or I know what you mean. I didn't have it as bad as you did, but I know what you mean. And I've had a few "what ifs" too. .
Click for Privacy and Preparedness files Live free or well said. my husband opens doors for me and all ladies when we're in public. we raised my son to do the same. a little anecdote: my son's girlfriend and i were at a restaurant/cafe in Blanco last saturday. when we got up to leave, a young man actually left his table to rush over and open the door for us. that was so impressive. that's the kind of chivalry rarely seen anymore.
The lack of dramatics alone is priceless. I hate to agree with such cynicism, but I am coming around to believe you are right. I've sunk tens of thousands of dollars into what I could rent for an evening for $200 max, and she goes home the next day. If I want loyalty and worship, I've got my Great Pyrenees sleeping in the front hallway who thinks I'm God. It's amazing the premiums paid on two things that are in surplus: drama and pussy. And you cannot have the latter without quadruple portions of the former. I have not yet accepted the axiom of my younger, much more cynical, politically incorrect brother who has said since his first divorce that "if they didn't have pussies, there'd be a hunting season on 'em," but it is coming to mind more often these days.
white men, that is.
and I hate being that cynical. It shouldn't be that way. Here's the interesting thing about feminism: They say they wanted independence for women. That's a worthy goal, no problem. But the problem is, they forced women to be dependent on their feminist leaders. Those that claimed to be feminists and didn't toe the company line were attacked. So much for being independent, huh? .
Click for Privacy and Preparedness files Live free or well done..i'm here to tell you though that real and sensitive women notice and appreciate it.
Yeah...the 'I am woman, hear me roar' shtick got old in the early 70s. I'm to the point that it if it was raining pussy I wouldn't walk out in the front yard.
So, besides you, how many do you figure are actually left on the planet? ;)
True. I think even that's changing now though. Have you seen the Verizon advertising campaign? It not only excludes all men, but it makes it a point of telling us how we apparently run under the assumption that our ideas are better than women's and by golly, if you use Verizon, you can "conquer the air" and show us big mean evil men. In so many words. I'm going to be emailing them soon letting them know that I appreciate their stand and their idea that they don't need my "man money", and that I will fulfill their stated desires when my current cell contract is up, which is nigh approaching, by not even considering them as an option. I watched Spiderman I and II yesterday. Probably the one of the last set of movies where I really felt "yeah, that's cool" and they weren't trying to tear down men.
"The more artificial taboos and restrictions there are in the world, the more the people are impoverished.... The more that laws and regulations are given prominence, the more thieves and robbers there will be." - Lao Tzu, 6th century BC
I', 5'3", 135 pounds, lift paper clips and couldn't burst a balloon with a pair of scissors. On the plus side, I have a nut sack down to my knee and my little helmet can dust the floor. I'm also filthy rich. The wimmin all luv me.
Yeah. Throw in being raised by a redneck undereducated family (when I was being raised by them) and I still wonder that I didn't drift into my uncle's very "wrong path" motorcycle gang when I came of age. Meh. Anywho, it was good to see her, if for nothing than to give me some moments of reflection about life.
"The more artificial taboos and restrictions there are in the world, the more the people are impoverished.... The more that laws and regulations are given prominence, the more thieves and robbers there will be." - Lao Tzu, 6th century BC
Few ladies. I even hold the doors for young "ladies" and when their lapse of social manners denies a "thank you", I tell them they are welcome and it goes over the heads of far too many. The terms "women" and "ladies" are NOT automatically interchangeable, not any more.
If you find a woman in the same percentile of size for her sex, I still wouldn't lay a dime against you being able to shrug off any 'attacks'. That was kind of my point. On television/movies, women in *your* percentile per gender, send guys in my percentile per gender, flying across the screen with wimpy little round house or side kicks. And not in the sense of a fantasy movie with fly-through-the-air-kung-fu, but in police dramas, etc. I've noticed, going by commercials I've seen recently on television, that 5'2" women with toothpick legs also run infinitely faster than their in-shape 6'+ male cop counterparts, the men arriving on the scene just in time to gasp in awe at Mini-Wonderwoman as she throws giant wimp-man-criminal through the air. That's just insane.
"The more artificial taboos and restrictions there are in the world, the more the people are impoverished.... The more that laws and regulations are given prominence, the more thieves and robbers there will be." - Lao Tzu, 6th century BC
Merci beaucoups. :) Some women still reciprocate with a thank you or a smile, and that in my view is a wonderful, and proper, response. I teach my son that he is to do these things because they're the right things to do, to extend courtesy, and that he should extend such courtesies to all women. It's hard to drive home the point sometimes though because a large and ever increasing number of women are either hostile, or simply stroll through without a word or acknowledgment as if I were Carl the Doorman and they the entitled and much higher station holding Princess of the World. Civil society won't last long when common courtesies and some small amount of grace are not the norm. I guess that's what we're seeing now, not just at the micro level, but across the board in society.
"The more artificial taboos and restrictions there are in the world, the more the people are impoverished.... The more that laws and regulations are given prominence, the more thieves and robbers there will be." - Lao Tzu, 6th century BC
LOL!!! Shut up, peon. You may tie your testicles into a granny knot until forgiven. It will be a while.
“How many Sex and the City fans have funneled all their maternal instincts into their Chinese bulldog without even noticing their ovaries have expired?”
It will be a while. James and I are supporting a "TEP" Federal effort in the Ozarks. Long overdue and badly needed.
There is one more. : )
"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations
Lighten up. : ) I'll stick with my premise that if the girl was attractive to you, then you would not be too tired or too anything to drop in for a 2 am visit. Of course, this is granting that this story took place in your early 20's and not your early 40's.
"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations
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Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/LatestIt’s as if they’re saying, “Maybe I don’t want him, but no one else should, either.”
#2. To: Prefrontal Vortex (#1)
To a feminist, every man is an ex-boyfriend
#3. To: Turtle (#2)
#4. To: Cynicom (#3)
Social engineering is NOT your strong suit.
#5. To: Turtle (#4)
#6. To: Turtle (#0)
It’s as if they’re saying, “Maybe I don’t want him, but no one else should, either.”
die kill ~~ Me
God is a separatist. That's good enough for me.
#7. To: Cynicom (#5)
When I delivered pizza
#8. To: PSUSA (#6)
#9. To: PSUSA (#6)
They seem to think that every possible interaction is an attempt to get into their pants
#10. To: Turtle (#7)
I never took them up on it. I never knew if they were interested in me or the pizza ;-)
#11. To: Cynicom (#10)
I put odds on the pizza.
#12. To: Turtle (#11)
I wasn't going to any girl's apartment at 2 am after I worked eight hours and was tired.
#13. To: Cynicom (#12)
#14. To: Turtle (#4)
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Lord Acton
OsamaBinGoldstein posted on 2010-05-25 9:39:59 ET (2 images) Reply Trace
#15. To: Cynicom, turtle (#8)
die kill ~~ Me
God is a separatist. That's good enough for me.
#16. To: Turtle (#9)
I meet women 250 to 400 pounds who think men are flirting with them, are interested in them, and trying to get them into bed.
#17. To: Turtle, Cynicom (#11)
I wasn't going to any girl's apartment at 2 am after I worked eight hours and was tired.
#18. To: PSUSA (#6)
Pussy is the only thing they have to offer, and there is a huge surplus in that market. It's just not that valuable. Anyone can get laid.
#19. To: abraxas (#17)
#20. To: purplerose (#18)
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#21. To: PSUSA (#15)
#22. To: purplerose (#18)
(Edited)
With that way of thinking, its no wonder one stays single. Women have more to offer than just pussy. Many of us ladies are highly intelligent and therefore refuse to marry (or date) men who look and smell like almost anything goes.
die kill ~~ Me
God is a separatist. That's good enough for me.
#23. To: SonOfLiberty (#21)
There are times when you look back and wonder "if just one thing changed what would have happened". I don't have those moments often, but I did a few weeks ago.
die kill ~~ Me
God is a separatist. That's good enough for me.
#24. To: purplerose (#18)
#25. To: PSUSA (#6)
(Edited)
They're not worth it in the long term. Pussy is the only thing they have to offer, and there is a huge surplus in that market. It's just not that valuable. Anyone can get laid.
#26. To: SonOfLiberty (#20)
Television routinely conditions men to accept being the weakling, men now need the rescuing, 250 pound men are routinely kicked through the air by 89 pound thin rail women, engineer/scientist roles are now almost exclusively filled by women in movies/television (and if a man is present in that role, he's a villain) and men are generally denigrated.
#27. To: Samuel Gray (#25)
I hate to agree with such cynicism,
die kill ~~ Me
God is a separatist. That's good enough for me.
#28. To: SonOfLiberty (#20)
That said, I still open doors for women (or men carrying large loads), I still smile and flirt politely, I defer to a woman for a bus seat in all cases, and all that. And I'm teaching my son the same. But I'm also making it a job to point out every single instance of anti-male conditioning we see in movies, literature or television.
#29. To: PSUSA (#27)
#30. To: christine (#28)
real and sensitive women
#31. To: christine (#26)
#32. To: SonOfLiberty (#20)
I'm 6'3", 235 pounds, lift weights and am martially trained
#33. To: PSUSA (#23)
#34. To: Samuel Gray, Christine (#30)
So, besides you, how many do you figure are actually left on the planet? ;)
#35. To: 2big2fail (#32)
I', 5'3", 135 pounds, lift paper clips and couldn't burst a balloon with a pair of scissors. On the plus side, I have a nut sack down to my knee and my little helmet can dust the floor. I'm also filthy rich. The wimmin all luv me.
#36. To: christine (#28)
well done..i'm here to tell you though that real and sensitive women notice and appreciate it.
#37. To: James Deffenbach (#14)
Turtle is NEVER wrong.
#38. To: Turtle, James Deffenbach (#37)
You may tie your testicles into a granny knot until forgiven.
#39. To: Samuel Gray (#30)
#40. To: Turtle (#19)
And you wonder why I didn't go back over to her apartment that night?
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