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Title: Poll: Twenty years old and raised in America- should they be deported for their parents crimes?
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Published: Aug 12, 2010
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Post Date: 2010-08-12 22:42:28 by Artisan
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Comments: 19

if a young adult has been raised in America since a young child of say four years old, when their parents snuck into the u.s., would you advocate this person be deported? even if they have never been to mexico & don't speak spanish?

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#1. To: Artisan (#0)

If they can't be deported, they can be given non-voting status. These morons were allowed to vote in California and they destroyed the state. I favor deporting as many as we can.

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Horse  posted on  2010-08-12   22:59:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Artisan (#0)

yes.

he who wants bread is the servant of the man that will feed him, if a man thus feeds a whole people, they are under his control.

DeaconBenjamin  posted on  2010-08-12   23:13:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Artisan (#0)

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Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-08-12   23:22:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Artisan (#0) (Edited)

if a young adult has been raised in America since a young child of say four years old, when their parents snuck into the u.s., would you advocate this person be deported? even if they have never been to mexico & don't speak spanish?

Yes. The kid is an illegal alien, ship his carcass out. He should KILL his parents for putting his ass in a sling. I no longer have any tolerance on the issue of our invasion, I grant mercy to NONE.

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X-15  posted on  2010-08-12   23:51:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Artisan (#0)

lol.......the kid has Mexican parents but doesn't speak Spanish. Who believes this story? So what if the kid has never been to Mexico, the kid still has family there that has been getting monthly checks since the kid was four yeaars old.

What do you advocate? Waiting until the illegal kid has an anchor baby on the tax payers dime? Sorry, but the kid should be grateful for the education and the freebies, not expecting more simply because sixteen years have gone by.

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abraxas  posted on  2010-08-12   23:56:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Artisan (#0) (Edited)

Either we are a nation of laws that apply equally to all persons at all times or we are an Orwellian nation where "some animals are more equal than others".

The law says to deport them, so we deport them.

The question implies we should give some people special favors because someone else broke the law. I respectfully disagree.

Addendum: At 20 years old they most certainly KNOW of their illegal status given trying to find a summer job, trying to get a GED, etc. Also, in a Mexican family, there is 0% chance they don't speak any Spanish and a close-to-zero chance they have never been to Mexico. Many of the schools up here have problems with families packing up for Mexico - for six months at a time - so the kids never graduate anyhow.

Further, assuming this individual has graduated high school at 18 as is normal, there has been two years passed in which that person has been a legal adult and able to take advantage of numerous visa programs. I know of at least one foreign student who spent 15 years in the US on a student visa collecting diplomas before getting a work visa (for five years) and then marrying a US citizen.

There is no reason whatsoever to cut any slack here given that this hypothetical individual has multiple avenues to adjust status AND is of the age of majority AND very likely would have run into issues already.

Community colleges can do student visas. There is no rational explanation why this hypothetical individual is still an illegal alien except for laziness on the part of the individual given the multiple ways in which status can be adjusted. If memory serves, status can be adjusted by means of Military Service so there is another avenue that can be pursued.

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mirage  posted on  2010-08-13   0:06:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Artisan (#0)

if a young adult has been raised in America since a young child of say four years old, when their parents snuck into the u.s., would you advocate this person be deported? even if they have never been to mexico & don't speak spanish?

Assuming the facts can be verified as true then the child is culturally, if not legally, an American. It is a long established legal principle that a minor child is not responsible nor culpable for the misdeeds of his/her legal parents. A four year old goes wherever there parents go and do what they are told by those parents. So, it is clear that the child did not knowingly break the law. While they are not a citizen I think under those circumstances deportation should be waived and a green card issued, with the right to apply for citizenship as would any other legal immigrant. If they do not apply for, qualify for, and receive citizenship within a reasonable length of time, say 7 years, then they should be deported.

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Original_Intent  posted on  2010-08-13   0:18:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Artisan (#0)

& don't speak spanish?

They all speak spanish

YES!!!

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Flintlock  posted on  2010-08-13   1:20:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Artisan (#0)

Not enough info to say.

Would it be good for white people?

Nobody hates their own race. Ask them what race they belong to.

Prefrontal Vortex  posted on  2010-08-13   2:43:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Artisan (#0)

Seal the border first, and then get rid of the adults and their hellspawn that crossed illegally, and then worry about the hard cases.

Worrying about these hard cases is like arguing about whether to use a belt or a neck tie as a tourniquet. Just stop the fucking bleeding.

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PSUSA  posted on  2010-08-13   8:40:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Artisan (#0)

if a young adult has been raised in America since a young child of say four years old, when their parents snuck into the u.s., would you advocate this person be deported? even if they have never been to mexico & don't speak spanish?

If either parent or child costs the US taxpayer a dime in social spending, yes, deport.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2010-08-13   8:51:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Jethro Tull (#11)

if a young adult has been raised in America since a young child of say four years old, when their parents snuck into the u.s., would you advocate this person be deported? even if they have never been to mexico & don't speak spanish?

I see no alternative to enforcing the law.

If you don't enforce your laws, you invite just the kind of lawlessness and crime that we suffer from along all the corridors of invasion in this country today.

We must not repeat Reagan-era acts of surrender accompanied by words and chords out of the humanitarian hymnal. Those who sing along feel good, but they are committing national suicide.

I will say this about the "young person" above. If he has come with his parents, we can assume a lack of volition on his part, and once he has returned to his home country, he should be entitled to apply for immigration without prejudice.

There is no long form.

randge  posted on  2010-08-13   9:36:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: randge (#12)

I have no problem with deporting the entire clan. As you say we either have laws *and* an immigration policy or we don't. As it now stands in America, a person wishing to become an American would have to be insane to do the process in the established step-by-step fashion. This is an area never discussed by the pro-illegal immigrant folks.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2010-08-13   9:43:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Jethro Tull (#13)

This is an area never discussed by the pro-illegal immigrant folks.

Yeah, it takes years and years and costs many thousands to immigrate, get residence and eventually get citizenship.

What's being proposed by covert enemies among us is a slap in the face to all of us here including those that seek to come here legitimately.

And you're right. This does not enter the debate often enough.

There is no long form.

randge  posted on  2010-08-13   10:04:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: randge (#12)

We must not repeat Reagan-era acts of surrender accompanied by words and chords out of the humanitarian hymnal. Those who sing along feel good, but they are committing national suicide.

that's so well said.

christine  posted on  2010-08-13   10:23:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Horse (#1)

If they can't be deported, they can be given non-voting status

No welfare, no Affirmative Action, either.

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Turtle  posted on  2010-08-13   10:59:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Artisan (#0)

If their parents snuck into the country illegally, and the child was born here, and is now over the age of 18, then the ADULT, should stay while the adult's parents are deported.

If the adult's parents drew welfare, and the state they reside in paid for the child's birth and education, then the whole lot of them should be deported, and then made to pay restitution to the state.

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TommyTheMadArtist  posted on  2010-08-13   11:18:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Artisan (#0) (Edited)

Not an anchor baby so I guess they have to go back. Stupid parents, what were they thinking not having an anchor baby.

Maybe the 20 year old can have one before the law is changed, or they are deported, like there is a chance in hell of that happening with the damn Jews running America.

America needs no more immigrants, we need some deportations! NOW!

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2010-08-13   16:15:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Flintlock (#8)

They all speak spanish

Yeah, like any illegal alien Mexican is going to teach their kid English only, that will be the day hell freezes over. Of course the 20 year old speaks Spanish, or whatever version of it is spoken in their part of Mexico.

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2010-08-13   16:22:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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