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Title: Order out of chaos: Why desperate patriots were duped about Arizona's SB 1070 from the start
Source: examiner.com
URL Source: http://www.examiner.com/la-county-l ... izona-s-sb-1070-from-the-start
Published: Aug 16, 2010
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Post Date: 2010-08-16 04:51:07 by Artisan
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Views: 128
Comments: 4

Americans have been fed up with illegal immigration for so long that they are willing to accept almost any solution that is offered to purportedly stop the problem. A typical example of this was the REAL ID act, which was supported by many, but not all, immigration activists a few years ago. Discerning people realized the privacy violations and innapropriate federal government involvement in drivers licenses would not fix the immigration problem.

Similarly, Arizona's SB 1070 had been championed by sovereignty advocates as some magic fix-all to the illegal immigration problem. A federal judge in Arizona blocked the main provisions of the law last month, resulting in praise by some and harsh criticism by others.The law had been set to take effect July 29th. Governor Jan Brewer issued a statement after the ruling, saying 'This fight is far from over. In fact, it is just the beginning" of a "long legal struggle".

What few people have mentioned is that the law itself is completely unnecessary, since local law enforcement already have the ability to request ID and legal status from people they stop. This has been the case for years, as I will illustrate below. I pointed this out in two articles I wrote before the federal ruling, Cops not allowed to request ID? An absurd notion that's never been true and The truth about Arizona's SB1070 lies in the story of a California native named Abdon .

Why then the big push to have states pass "special laws" to give police supposed authority to request immigration status from people, when they already have complete legal authority to do so? This accomplished nothing other than creating an opportunity for the federal government to meddle into an issue which had already been ruled on by none other than the U.S. Supreme Court, decades ago. All Arizona had to do was to simply enforce the existing laws. But as you will see below, they did not want to. Now, because of this circus in Arizona, states will be hesitant to dare attempt to do something which they have every right to do. This is order out of chaos. The government creates a problem, generates an expected reaction from the naive public, and then offers their "solution". OrwellToday offers numerous examples of 'big brother staged events', or 'Order out of Chaos', (ORDO AB CHAO in Latin). Most often such events involve staged events of terrorism in order to justify wars and a police state. With the immigration issue, the government gets everyone worked up, quarelling with each other, and then gets people to accept the ludicrous notion that the feds, who created the problem on purpose, must settle the matter in 2010 via legislation and court rulings. Here is a brief history of the matter. Hopefully, patriots will see through the nonsense and wil not fall for faux patriots such as socialist Jan Brewer and statist jackboot Senator Russell Pearce.

Police in Arizona turned down the chance to enforce the law four years ago, as reported by FOX News:
Tuesday, April 18, 2006 PHOENIX — Gov. Janet Napolitano vetoed a bill that would have criminalized the presence of illegal immigrants in Arizona, citing opposition from police agencies that want immigration arrests to remain the responsibility of the federal government"

The Federation for American Immigration Reform (FAIR) extensively documents that "....federal courts had repeatedly affirmed since 1984 that local police may inquire into immigration violations in the course of a routine stop"....."Local police departments have always had the ability to collaborate with the INS in enforcement operations."....."It is illegal for local governments to prohibit police cooperation with the INS, and individual officers who report violations are protected by law."

American Patrol reports "The ruling in United States vs. Ontoniel Vasquez-Alvarez strikes down the widespread urban myth that local police have no power to arrest illegal aliens....State and local law enforcement officials are free to arrest criminals SOLELY ON THE BASIS of illegally being in the U.S."

The Center for Immigration Studies clearly documents State and Local Authority to Enforce Immigration Law : "It is well established that the authority of state police to make arrests for violation of federal law is not limited ... (article continues here)

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#1. To: Artisan (#0)

What few people have mentioned is that the law itself is completely unnecessary, since local law enforcement already have the ability to request ID and legal status from people they stop.

Yep. The BP asked me if I was a citizen on more than one occasion, near Laredo. I don't look Mexican in the least.

Did you post that vid here of her saying they were in for a big tax increase? I wonder if this border crap is a smokescreen to get that tax increase through, by getting her popularity up for signing this law.

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PSUSA  posted on  2010-08-16   14:10:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: PSUSA (#1) (Edited)

yes. many people love brewer. 3 billion dollar tax increases are now good, since brewer is a 'hero', (despite the fact she admittedly lobbied against sb1070). FAIR, CIS, American Patrol & courts are all lying & are for open borders since they point out that cops have always been legally able to enforce immig. law.

"if I have all faith so as to move mountains, but do not have love, I am nothing." 1 Cor 12:31—13:13
"I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him"
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Artisan  posted on  2010-08-16   20:33:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Red Jones (#0)

no one can deny that id'ing illegals is & has always been 100% legal.

"if I have all faith so as to move mountains, but do not have love, I am nothing." 1 Cor 12:31—13:13
"I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him"
George W, Bush, 3/13/02 http://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html

Artisan  posted on  2010-08-17   14:41:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Artisan (#3)

you are correct. the arizona law should not be controversial. But I think the arizona law should force employers to hire only legal people and not tolerate the employers hiring illegals. that is why I would say the law should be controversial.

Revelation 6:6 And I heard a voice in the midst of the four beasts say, A measure of wheat for a penny, and three measures of barley for a penny; and [see] thou hurt not the oil and the wine.

Red Jones  posted on  2010-08-17   17:23:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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