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Title: NASA Flight Director Confirms 9/11 Aircraft Speed As The "Elephant In The Room"
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URL Source: http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/ ... 5e17bf38ee9a3b&showtopic=20178
Published: Aug 8, 2010
Author: rob balsamo
Post Date: 2010-08-16 14:30:37 by wudidiz
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NASA Flight Director Confirms 9/11 Aircraft Speed As The "Elephant In The Room"


06/22/2010 - (PilotsFor911Truth.org)

Recently Pilots For 9/11 Truth have analyzed the speeds reported for the aircraft utilized on 9/11. Numerous aviation experts have voiced their concerns regarding the extremely excessive speeds reported above Maximum Operating for the 757 and 767, particularly, United and American Airlines 757/767 Captains who have actual flight time in all 4 aircraft reportedly used on 9/11. These experts state the speeds are impossible to achieve near sea level in thick air if the aircraft were a standard 757/767 as reported. Combined with the fact the airplane which was reported to strike the south tower of the World Trade Center was also producing high G Loading while turning and pulling out from a dive, the whole issue becomes incomprehensible to fathom a standard 767 can perform such maneuvers at such intense speeds exceeding Maximum Operating limits of the aircraft. Especially for those who research the topic thoroughly and have expertise in aviation.

Co-Founder of Pilots For 9/11 Truth Rob Balsamo recently interviewed a former NASA Flight Director in charge of flight control systems at the NASA Dryden Flight Research facility who is also speaking out after viewing the latest presentation by Pilots For 9/11 Truth - "9/11: World Trade Center Attack".

Retired NASA Senior Executive Dwain Deets published his concerns on the matter at the American Institute of Aeronautics and Astronautics (AIAA) as follows:


A Responsibility to Explain an Aeronautical Improbability
Dwain Deets
NASA Dryden Flight Research Center (Senior Executive Service - retired)
AIAA Associate Fellow

The airplane was UA175, a Boeing 767-200, shortly before crashing into World Trade Center Tower 2. Based on analysis of radar data, the National Transportation and Safety Board reported the groundspeed just before impact as 510 knots. This is well beyond the maximum operating velocity of 360 knots, and maximum dive velocity of 410 knots. The possibilities as I see them are: (1) this wasn’t a standard 767-200; (2) the radar data was compromised in some manner; (3) the NTSB analysis was erroneous; or (4) the 767 flew well beyond its flight envelope, was controllable, and managed to hit a relatively small target. Which organization has the greater responsibility for acknowledging the elephant in the room? The NTSB, NASA, Boeing, or the AIAA? Have engineers authored papers, but the AIAA or NASA won’t publish them? Or, does the ethical responsibility lie not with organizations, but with individual aeronautical engineers? Have engineers just looked the other way?


The above entry remained at the moderated AIAA Aerospace America Forum for approximately two weeks before being removed without explanation. Click "Who is Ethically Responsible" submitted by Dwain Deets at the Pilots For 9/11 Truth Forum for discussion on this entry at AIAA.

Dwain Deets credentials and experience are as follows:

Dwain Deets
MS Physics, MS Eng
Former Director, Aerospace Projects, NASA Dryden Flight Research Center
Served as Director, Research Engineering Division at Dryden
Recipient of the NASA Exceptional Service Award
Presidential Meritorious Rank Award in the Senior Executive Service (1988)
Selected presenter of the Wright Brothers Lectureship in Aeronautics
Associate Fellow - American Institute of Aeronautics and Astronautics (AIAA)
Included in "Who's Who in Science and Engineering" 1993 - 2000
Former Chairman of the Aerospace Control and Guidance Systems
- Committee of the Society of Automotive Engineers
Former Member, AIAA Committee on Society and Aerospace Technology
37 year NASA career


It is established based on corroborated expert statements, raw data, and precedent, that the extremely excessive speed reported for the 9/11 aircraft is truly the "Elephant In The Room" and needs to be thoroughly investigated.

For summary of speed analysis, please see article 9/11: Speeds Reported For World Trade Center Attack Aircraft Analyzed.

To view the scene from "9/11: World Trade Center Attack" analyzing the reported speeds in more detail, please click here.

For full detailed analysis covering the events which took place in New York City on September 11, 2001, interviews with experts, including analysis of "Hijacker" pilot skill, Black Box recovery and more... please view the latest presentation from Pilots For 9/11 Truth, "9/11: World Trade Center Attack".

Founded in August 2006, Pilots For 9/11 Truth is a growing organization of aviation professionals from around the globe. The organization has also analyzed Flight Data provided by the National Transportation Safety Board (NTSB) for the Pentagon Attack and the events in Shanksville, PA. The data does not support the government story. The NTSB/FBI refuse to comment. Pilots For 9/11 Truth do not offer theory or point blame at this point in time. However, there is a growing mountain of conflicting information and data in which government agencies and officials refuse to acknowledge. Pilots For 9/11 Truth Core member list continues to grow.

http://pilotsfor911truth.org/core.html for full member list.

http://pilotsfor911truth.org/join to join.

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#5. To: wudidiz (#0)

Nothing concrete.

For instance, the B707 was never meant to fly upside down, fully loaded, because it exceeded ALL of the performance parameters of the aircraft.

Yet it happened and no one died. The aircraft was junked.

Cynicom  posted on  2010-08-16   22:40:30 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Cynicom, Shoonra (#5)

What's being stated here is that the 767 will not attain level flight speed of 410 knots at near sea level. That's about .7 mach. This aircraft will do .83 mach at altitude (30,000 feet), but at sea level it maxes out at about .33.

(Used the speed of sound here to cancel out all the mph, kph, knots confusion,)

Has nothing to do with driving upside down or not.

wudidiz  posted on  2010-08-16   23:37:27 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: randge, Shoonra, Cynicom (#10)

Sorry, I meant to ping randge, not Shoonra to the previous post.

wudidiz  posted on  2010-08-16   23:41:45 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: wudidiz (#12)

wud...

There is even one long epistle, all by experts, that there were NO aircraft involved in 911.

You mite dig that one out sometime.

No more posts, promise.

Cynicom  posted on  2010-08-16   23:46:50 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Cynicom, wudidiz, all (#14)

There is even one long epistle, all by experts, that there were NO aircraft involved in 911.

You mite dig that one out sometime.

No more posts, promise.

Well, Cyni there is a lot of planted disinformation to confuse and create false trails. One has to look at the evidence, not what some "ex-spurt" says about it UNLESS that expert has the expertise to venture an opinion with credibility AND the explanation is consistent with the observed data/phenomena.

Just as equally one cannot form a preconception and then pick and choose evidence to fit the preconception.

Either is unsound reasoning.

I believe 911 was an inside job not because someone told me but because the evidence told me.

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-08-16   23:55:07 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#20. To: Original_Intent, wudidiz (#17)

I promised wud I would NOT post to the 911 threads again.

A promise is a promise. Therefore I will reply via PM.

Cynicom  posted on  2010-08-17 03:59:02 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: Original_Intent (#17)

I believe 911 was an inside job not because someone told me but because the evidence told me.

America needs more people to use their own brains and think just like you have done to know that 9/11 was and inside job.

To blindly believe something just because it has been reported by mass media and government is granting too much power to a small group of people that may or may not care one iota about you or America.

It is never wise to trust an entity wholeheartedly unless you know that entity extremely well.

RickyJ  posted on  2010-08-21 12:23:03 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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