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Title: Arizona's illegal immigrants can easily avoid E-verify system
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Arizona Republic
URL Source: http://www.azcentral.com/news/artic ... od-e-verify.html#ixzz0wsCs4D9Y
Published: Aug 17, 2010
Author: Jahna Berry
Post Date: 2010-08-17 10:55:30 by Red Jones
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Arizona's illegal immigrants can easily avoid E-verify system by Jahna Berry - Aug. 17, 2010 12:00 AM The Arizona Republic Companies have opportunities to make sure they aren't hiring illegal immigrants. Prospective hires must show proper identification, and they must submit U.S. government-required paperwork. Under Arizona law, new hires must be vetted by E-Verify, a federal system designed to catch illegal-immigrant workers. But there are many ways for unauthorized workers to slip through the cracks. It's not hard, experts say, for an illegal immigrant with high-quality fake identification to collect a paycheck. An undocumented worker could remain on a company's payroll a few days or indefinitely, especially if he or she uses a matching name and Social Security number taken from a friend or relative, or stolen. How can this happen? Among the reasons: Most hiring staffers aren't fake-ID experts. The state's push to use E-Verify has had limited success. Identity theft isn't always detected immediately. Surprise federal audits can't reach every business. Because the existing safeguards can't stop every illegal worker, the risk of getting caught is the greatest deterrent for workers or employers who may want to skirt the rules. Intense anti-illegal-immigration politics in Arizona and increased scrutiny from law enforcement may have made applicants and companies less willing to take chances, some employment experts say. Employers in middle Arizona, home to as many as 460,000 undocumented immigrants, has become the center of a national debate about illegal immigration. Much of the debate has focused on employment because most border-crossers come to the U.S. looking for jobs. Many employers are now so worried about inviting attention from regulators that even law-abiding companies are unwilling to talk openly about their efforts to avoid hiring undocumented workers. A firm with the best practices may inadvertently hire an illegal immigrant, and companies don't want to risk fines or other penalties, say attorneys who represent local employers. "There is no way to completely, 100 percent, prevent workers who are not authorized to work in the United States from being on the payroll," said Christy Hubbard, attorney at Phoenix's Lewis & Roca LLP. "There's just not." "The reason why," Hubbard added, "is that people have documents that make them look like they are authorized to work." In April, Pro's Ranch Market fired 300 Phoenix workers after an audit by Immigration and Customs Enforcement found that they were working in the country illegally. The supermarket followed the law in asking their new hires to verify their eligibility to work, but most of the 300 workers gave the company forged ID documents, the company said. Employers face a legal tightrope in trying to avoid hiring illegal immigrants without violating workers' civil rights, said Julie Pace, an immigration attorney who has represented Pro's Ranch Market and other Arizona employers. "There are all of these (anti-)discrimination rules that people don't realize" are out there, Pace added. Required documents When an applicant lands a job offer, employers require their new employees to fill out paperwork that could weed out undocumented workers. All new hires must complete an I-9 form, or Employment Eligibility Verification form, as required by the 1986 Immigration Reform and Control Act. The form is filled out on the first day of work, and the employee must supply supporting documents - driver's license, Social Security card, passport or a combination of other documents - within three business days. Employers only need to be reasonably sure the documents are authentic. Human-resource staffers may catch some fakes, but they are not trained document experts, said Ryan Adair, an attorney with the non-profit Mountain States Employers Council Inc. Employers don't have to buy special equipment to verify that documents aren't faked. "You don't have to buy a black light, you don't have to fingerprint the person or anything like that," Adair said. E-Verify screening The Legal Arizona Workers Act, which took effect Jan. 1, 2008, aimed to help close some of those loopholes. The state law requires that all Arizona employers use the federal government's E-Verify system to check new hires. It takes seconds to check a new hire's immigration status on E-Verify, a secure electronic database that combines information from several federal agencies. If E-Verify cannot immediately verify that the new hire is eligible to work in the United States, the worker can choose to dispute that finding and has eight business days to appeal with federal officials. The Arizona law also includes tough penalties for people who knowingly hire illegal workers, including the loss of their business license. E-Verify does a good job detecting workers who use made-up Social Security numbers. But it has trouble flagging workers who use stolen documents. If the new worker provides a name and Social Security number that match, the system won't know that they don't actually belong to the applicant. Workers may use identities stolen from strangers or may provide a real name and number "borrowed" from a legal worker they know. In addition, an Arizona Republic analysis of E-Verify figures found that about one-third of the state's estimated 100,000 employers have signed up for the E-Verify program. And the most recent federal hiring data suggests that many new Arizona hires aren't being checked by E-Verify. Arizona employers made 732,455 E-Verify checks from Oct. 1, 2008, to Sept. 30, 2009. During that same period, Arizona companies made 1.3 million hires, according to U.S. Census figures. Officials from U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services say that it's impossible to tell how many Arizona firms are using E-Verify. Some firms have out-of-state human-resources or payroll departments, so their E-Verify check may be credited to another state. Other experts say that small businesses, which employ many Arizona workers, have been slow to use E-Verify. Identity-theft tips After a new hire is on the payroll, it's usually another government agency that alerts a company that it might have an unauthorized worker, said Pace, the Phoenix immigration-law attorney. Sometimes a police agency is investigating an identity-theft case. At other times, the Arizona Department of Economic Security or the Internal Revenue Service may come calling. Often victims learn that their identity was stolen after they are turned down for welfare benefits or the IRS questions them about extra income. The Social Security Administration may send a "no match" letter to a company if payroll tax information reveals that names on its payroll don't match Social Security numbers. But it's common for legal workers to have names that don't exactly match their Social Security number. Most of the 17.8 million discrepancies in the agency's records pertain to legal workers, according to federal figures. And employment lawyers say the Social Security Administration doesn't always send letters when it finds discrepancies. They also say that if someone without documents uses a real person's name and Social Security number, the agency would have trouble discerning that type of identity theft. Watchdog climate Despite the loopholes in the system, the intense scrutiny on employers and Arizona's anti-immigration climate has made it tougher for undocumented workers to stay on the books. Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio has made nearly 40 worksite raids as part of employer-sanctions enforcement. Since the raids began, more than 400 employees have been arrested; 278 have faced identity-theft charges. Also, Immigration and Customs Enforcement is conducting more surprise I-9 company audits. Under the Obama administration, ICE has more funding for worksite audits, said Matthew Allen, the special agent who oversees the program in Arizona. Instead of having eight agents and one auditor working on Arizona cases, the agency now has four additional auditors, he said. From Oct. 1, 2007, to Sept. 30, 2008, there were 15 Arizona worksite audits. From Oct. 1 to July 31, there were 59. "I would say for the foreseeable future, Arizona employers should take it as a given that they are more likely than in the past to be subject to an ICE worksite enforcement audit," Allen said. Audits can lead to civil penalties, from a warning for minor paperwork glitches to fines for more serious offenses. In its 2008 and 2009 fiscal years, ICE collected $205,000 in civil fines from audited businesses. Egregious acts, such as conspiring to hire illegal workers, can lead to criminal charges and time behind bars. For example, a Sierra Vista drywall firm's office manager was sentenced to two months in prison in 2008 for knowingly hiring unauthorized workers. The firm's president, Ivan T. Hardt, is awaiting trial. The increased scrutiny from regulators has prompted many companies to do periodic checks to ensure that that their workers' hiring paperwork is in order, attorneys say. There are also signs that other laws that target illegal immigrants, such as the state's new immigration law, and the state's anti-illegal immigrant climate may have made working here less attractive for immigrants. In July, U.S. District Court Judge Susan Bolton blocked key provisions of Arizona's new immigration law from taking effect, including one that compelled officers engaged in a lawful stop, detention or arrest to, when practicable, ask about a person's legal status when reasonable suspicion exists that the person is in the U.S. illegally. Even though parts of the law are in flux, thousands of immigrants have fled recession-battered Arizona for other states. Immigrant-rights activists say those leaving Arizona seek a less-hostile political atmosphere and what brought them to the United States in the first place - better job opportunities. Read more: http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/2010/08/17/20100817arizona-illegal-immigrants-aviod-e-verify.html#ixzz0wsCs4D9Y
Poster Comment: employers are not even required by law to use the e-verify system. and what we've learned now is that the e-verify system is not reliable. Lots of illegals are able to beat it with their fake documents. I've been on the job-sites and I've seen the fake documents they have and I've talked to them about it. The employers too know that the documents are fake. There's construction companies that have thousands of employees with half of them illegal. it is completely normal. the only other time I've read an article that says illegals can easily work in our economy it was in the wall street journal back in 1986 when they openly said that the immigration reform bill just passed would result in huge illegal immigration. We understand it to be normal that our mass media deceives us. All this time since 1986 and still to this day our people are ignorant and not understanding that illegals are welcomed into our workforce by the employers who are not penalized for hiring them. Regardless of the deception from the media, I am very disappointed and let-down by my fellow Americans that they are so ignorant on this issue. I can't stand to see these mindless robots who are my fellow citizens that cheer for an army on the border and think that this is some solution. That is a solution brought forth by the Republicans who also brought for the illegal immigrant invasion. where I differ from many of you is that I agree with Ronald Reagan that we should let people stay here who have come here and worked a job. But I disagree with almost everybody in america in that I think the employers should be forced to hire free citizens only and I am opposed to guest workers. Many americans favor guest workers. As bad as our economy is, they want guest workers. it seems that employers can be audited and the government can determine who is legal or not. I suggest that our federal government should do that routinely with all employers and frequently too. and I suggest this is a lot more cost effective than putting an army of border patrol agents up to stretch 2,000 miles. With a solid wall of Border Patrol police for 2,000 miles the illegals will just tunnel under. and when they get here they'll buy fake documents inexpensively that authorize them to work in our economy. and everyone will wave their flags and say that we won. then we will marvel at how we just plain can't manage our affairs.
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#3. To: Red Jones (#0)
You have to do both if you want to stop trafficking in human slaves. Too often, people make the mistake of thinking "this or that" when in reality the solution is often "this AND that AND the other thing too". The "big thing" is to sanction employers and start locking them up. Corporate Officers can be held responsible for the actions of the company. Joe Arpaio would love an excuse to build another tent city. In a capitalist nation, people tend to gravitate toward that which they excel. This would simply be a good use of resources to let Arpaio do what he does best. As much as racial profiling should not be, someone who doesn't speak English but does speak fluent Spanish (or a Mayan dialect) trying to pass themselves off as "Charles Martel of France" ought to raise eyebrows. Common sense would dictate that something is not right about that situation, but Anti-Discrimination Law has made Common Sense illegal.
Joe Arpaio has been our sheriff in Maricopa County for over 18 years now. He has almost 2 years yet to serve on his term. He's been a disaster. People do like that he is willing to figure out ways to kick illegals out and he does that. But it has a very small impact what he does. The problem with Arpaio is that he is very divisive. He causes racial conflict. He also is very disrespectful to the prisoners. One time he put a web camera up so that when new arrivals to the tent city jail would go to the bathroom they would be broadcast on the internet actually using the rest room. Arpaio had the privacy stalls removed in the bathroom, he had the door removed to the bathroom. when somebody used the toilet it would be broadcast on the internet. Joe Arpaio indoctrinates his detention officers to treat the prisoners like garbage. and this has cost tens of millions of dollars in court settlements. There's been some spectacular cases. Arpaio also believe in very expensive jails, the jails he builds are super-expensive. Arpaio also wastes a lot of money in other ways. Once he transported a prisoner to and from California by means of a helicopter where he could've used the normal transport systems at a small fraction of the cost. But Arpaio found a way to bill the prisoner for the cost and so he ran the cost up to over a hundred thousand dollars by using helicopters for transport, all so he could present the bill to the prisoner. Arpaio has inspired hatred from the immigrant population. Arpaio has engaged in these wars with other county officials where huge amounts of money are wasted. Arpaio hired 3 different law firms to represent him in his suits against other officials and these lawyers were charging very high fees. Lots of expenses are just manufactured by Arpaio. and nobody has any control over him. the board of supervisors tell him to not spend money foolishly and he persists, very arrogantly snubbing his nose at other elected officials who have a job to do. Arpaio is just a complete idiot in reality. He is a puppet of the people that rule us. The divisive nature of this individual is valuable to those who rule us.
The good sheriff does sound borderline nut-job.
I'm glad that Artisan on this page agreed with me concerning arpaio. Arpaio is bad news in reality. see this picture. Those are prisoners in their underwear, barefoot even. they're tied together at their wrists and they are being transported from one prison facility to another prison facility. They have to walk about 4 blocks some of which is on open city streets like that to get to their destination. Once on the front page it had a picture of prisoners being transported exactly like that except they were running. They were made almost naked, tied together and made to run outdoors by the guards. I would imagine it was a dangerous practice, somebody got hurt and they don't do it any more. because these guys in the picture are walking. but its not proper to make men get almost naked and then parade them around like that outdoors on public city streets. Once at a parade Sheriff Arpaio came in his big brown cadillac with the sheriff's office logo on it. he sat in the front passenger seat and had a chain in his hand. the chain led to the neck of a prisoner who was sitting on the back of the car and his legs dangling into the back seat. Everybody could see sheriff joe holding his hand up with the chain in his hand and leading his prisoner as if a roman general parading a slave in a parade. It was a parade with all kinds of participants going down Central Ave. Sheriff joe has really done a lot of screwed up things. He refused to pay time and a half overtime to his employees, just paid straight time for overtime hours. The federal government caught him and made him pay millions in back pay. Arpaio is currently under investigation by the Obama admin. My thinking on Arpaio is that he will ultimately be used to discredit the anti-illegal immigrant views of America. He's going to be found guilty in this investigation, removed from office, the media will drag his name in the mud, this will contribute to the grudges that many people have over politics, the mexicans will dance on his grave and use him as a boogey-man forever. he's a puppet. the people who rule us like it when we have grudges against each other, then they know what buttons to press to motivate us, they like it when we are divided. years ago we liked him when we heard about how inexpensive the meals were that he served to prisoners. But he doesn't feed people enough food to live on. A person who tries to live on what they're fed in that jail will definitely lose weight and in the long run will be considered under-nourished on our normal standards. But Arpaio does not save us money at all. The prisons he insists on are super-expensive compared to other county prisons. He's cost so much money with his petty bickering at other county officials. He actually has journalists followed who criticize him. he is kind of a nut.
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Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latestit seems that employers can be audited and the government can determine who is legal or not. I suggest that our federal government should do that routinely with all employers and frequently too. and I suggest this is a lot more cost effective than putting an army of border patrol agents up to stretch 2,000 miles.
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Joe Arpaio
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