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Title: New 9/11 3D Analysis Suggests Top Secret Device Hit World Trade Center
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URL Source: http://www.veteranstoday.com/2010/0 ... device-hit-world-trade-center/
Published: Aug 12, 2010
Author: Johnny Punish
Post Date: 2010-08-21 05:36:30 by wudidiz
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#16. To: wudidiz (#14)

shilly shillington.

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gengis gandhi  posted on  2010-08-21   20:50:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: wudidiz (#0)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-08-21   22:02:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: wudidiz (#14)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-08-21   22:04:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: wudidiz (#15)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-08-21   22:05:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: RickyJ (#10)

If there was a ball, I think it would have been seen by many that day.

When the ships were first arriving on the East Coast the natives couldn't see them because they had no point of reference to identify the objects.

Since the object is out of the normal realms of recognition, this isn't all that surprising.

"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations

abraxas  posted on  2010-08-21   22:24:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: wudidiz (#14)

Think of all the niggers you could hate in 20 minutes.

And what is that supposed to mean? Is that some kind of canuckistani joke? You know what the problem with you people (canuckistanis) is, you're smug. You're smug with zero experience, and you have zero reason to be smug or arrogant about anything.

WWGPD? - (What Would General Pinochet Do?)

Flintlock  posted on  2010-08-21   22:38:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: PSUSA (#6)

I can come up with. It will involve naked women, UFOs, Bigfoot, green paint, and a fly swatter.

Hey, ping me, will ya?

"Satan / Cheney in "08" Just Foreign Policy Iraqi Death Estimator

tom007  posted on  2010-08-21   22:47:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Eric Stratton, RickyJ, gengis gandhi, *9-11* (#19)

Is there a source for the original NBC video?

I was wondering the same thing. Sure enough the trajectory, size and shape of the object on the NBC video is clearly much different.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=1lKZqqSI9-s (NBC video 2:20)

I thought someone posted a site with all of them from that day.

www.911conspiracy.tv/2nd_hit.html


Oh sure... your own mental projection about your own state of mind works BEST bring CRAP to a political forum?

So next... BatBoy and Hillary are the reason for chemtrails?


wudidiz  posted on  2010-08-22   2:26:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Flintlock (#21)

Think of all the niggers you could hate in 20 minutes.

And what is that supposed to mean?

Did you watch the video? It's 22 minutes long. Watch the whole thing then I'll tell you what I meant.


"Watch the video, Flintlock."


Oh sure... your own mental projection about your own state of mind works BEST bring CRAP to a political forum?

So next... BatBoy and Hillary are the reason for chemtrails?


wudidiz  posted on  2010-08-22   3:19:59 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Original_Intent, christine, FormerLurker, TwentyTwelve, James Deffenbach, Itistoolate, noone222, Eric Stratton, HOUNDDAWG, gengis gandhi, GreyLmist, abraxas, All, *9-11*, *Black Ops - Psyops* (#24)

I watched this video again for the fourth time.

Fascinating.

It seems certain there were no planes hit the WTC.

It's obvious the tv video was faked. Absolutely no doubt.

Just when I thought I knew everything....


Oh sure... your own mental projection about your own state of mind works BEST bring CRAP to a political forum?

So next... BatBoy and Hillary are the reason for chemtrails?


wudidiz  posted on  2010-08-22   4:01:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: wudidiz (#25)

Just when I thought I knew everything....

LMFAO! I think you're serious. I bet you think you knew everything!

Don't you just hate that? First you think you have a topic totally mastered. You are like a god in your mighty all-knowing knowledge. Then something else comes along and totally smashes your delusion.

Could it be obvious that your video was faked? Which makes more sense?

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I've listened to preachers I've listened to fools I've watched all the dropouts Who make their own rules One person conditioned to rule and control The media sells it and you live the role ~Ozzy Osbourne: Crazy Train

PSUSA  posted on  2010-08-22   7:59:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: wudidiz (#25)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-08-22   8:31:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: wudidiz (#25)

20% eyewitness recognition for an event of this magnitude is insignificant to validity.

look up eyewitness suggestibility effect

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gengis gandhi  posted on  2010-08-22   10:38:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: wudidiz (#25)

I would be careful in drawing a conclusion.

As was pointed out this could simply be another computer generated video to further confuse and discredit.

You could make a video of Bozo the Clown flying into the towers with the right equipment and budget.

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-08-22   13:05:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: PSUSA (#26)

LMFAO! I think you're serious. I bet you think you knew everything!

Don't you just hate that? First you think you have a topic totally mastered. You are like a god in your mighty all-knowing knowledge. Then something else comes along and totally smashes your delusion.

Could it be obvious that your video was faked? Which makes more sense?

No. I didn't actually think I knew everything. Just an expression meaning something has been revealed to me.

Now, did you or did you not watch the entire 22 minute video?

I watched it 4 times.


Oh sure... your own mental projection about your own state of mind works BEST bring CRAP to a political forum?

So next... BatBoy and Hillary are the reason for chemtrails?


wudidiz  posted on  2010-08-22   13:13:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Original_Intent, Eric Stratton, gengis gandhi (#29)

I would be careful in drawing a conclusion.

OI, the videos of planes hitting the towers were faked.

It's completely obvious. I watched this video 4 times.

What hit the towers weren't airliners.

I know you can't watch this video, but here's an image to illustrate only 1 of the points:

Same camera shot, same distance, same angle, same time (notice smoke cloud), different background. The picture on the left had no airliner in it. The faked one on the right did. Where did the background go? Why was there no plane in the original video? (Only on NBC)


Oh sure... your own mental projection about your own state of mind works BEST bring CRAP to a political forum?

So next... BatBoy and Hillary are the reason for chemtrails?


wudidiz  posted on  2010-08-22   13:25:59 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: wudidiz (#31)

Interesting to say the least.

Nevertheless, while it does strongly suggest the video was edited that is really all it proves.

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-08-22   13:30:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: Original_Intent (#32)

Nevertheless, while it does strongly suggest the video was edited that is really all it proves.

That was only one image I picked off Google.

Try watching the whole video.

What the image proves is that a plane was added to the original video.

There was NO PLANE in the original video.


Oh sure... your own mental projection about your own state of mind works BEST bring CRAP to a political forum?

So next... BatBoy and Hillary are the reason for chemtrails?


wudidiz  posted on  2010-08-22   13:37:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: Original_Intent (#32)


Oh sure... your own mental projection about your own state of mind works BEST bring CRAP to a political forum?

So next... BatBoy and Hillary are the reason for chemtrails?


wudidiz  posted on  2010-08-22   13:43:27 ET  (2 images) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: wudidiz (#31)

You're taking for granted that the video you think was edited was done by ... someone. It could also be edited by the person that presented this video as "proof".

But, lets look at the pic. Here it is, magnified by me.

They're not the same.

That object I drew around, I don't know what the hell that is. Maybe it's just an artifact, or maybe it's evidence of tampering, or maybe it's something else.

But that puff of smoke I put the arrow on is different from the other pic. It was not shot at the same time.


Click for Privacy and Preparedness files

I've listened to preachers I've listened to fools I've watched all the dropouts Who make their own rules One person conditioned to rule and control The media sells it and you live the role ~Ozzy Osbourne: Crazy Train

PSUSA  posted on  2010-08-22   13:48:01 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: PSUSA, Original_Intent (#35)

I posted that picture because OI is not able to watch videos. Yet.

If you watch the video here

At 4:40 it compares the two videos.


Oh sure... your own mental projection about your own state of mind works BEST bring CRAP to a political forum?

So next... BatBoy and Hillary are the reason for chemtrails?


wudidiz  posted on  2010-08-22   13:57:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: wudidiz (#36)

Nice try. You said, and I quote you directly, that this was the

Same camera shot, same distance, same angle, same time (notice smoke cloud), different background. The picture on the left had no airliner in it. The faked one on the right did. Where did the background go? Why was there no plane in the original video? (Only on NBC)

I've shown that this was not the same camera shot, you don't know what the distance was, the angle is only similar. You can account for the different background by using 2 different altitudes. If you are higher up, you point the camera down, getting a different background than if you were at the same altitude pointing the camera parallel to the horizon, or not pointing the camera down at as steep of an angle.

The pic on the right looks like it was taken from a lower altitude since you see more of the roof area on the pic on the left. This would not show the same background.

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Click for Privacy and Preparedness files

I've listened to preachers I've listened to fools I've watched all the dropouts Who make their own rules One person conditioned to rule and control The media sells it and you live the role ~Ozzy Osbourne: Crazy Train

PSUSA  posted on  2010-08-22   14:16:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: PSUSA (#37)

Did you watch the video?


Oh sure... your own mental projection about your own state of mind works BEST bring CRAP to a political forum?

So next... BatBoy and Hillary are the reason for chemtrails?


wudidiz  posted on  2010-08-22   14:23:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: PSUSA (#37)

One was shot in low resolution the other one higher. It is no wonder a plane moving fast could appear as a ball on a low resolution cam-corder. New evidence like this does not emerge 9 years from the time of the event. It just doesn't happen. If there was a damn ball there you would have heard about it a lot sooner than now! This video is pure dis-info put out by the CIA/Mossad. Fuck them, and all the idiots dumb enough to believe this lie.

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2010-08-22   14:24:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: RickyJ (#39)

Resolution has nothing to do with it.

The two videos, one original live from NBC and the other obviously edited, show two completely different trajectories.

This is not new.

The video, "September Clues" was done years ago.


Oh sure... your own mental projection about your own state of mind works BEST bring CRAP to a political forum?

So next... BatBoy and Hillary are the reason for chemtrails?


wudidiz  posted on  2010-08-22   14:29:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: wudidiz (#34) (Edited)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-08-22   14:43:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: RickyJ (#39)

I know. I just don't like to say it right off. I'd rather show it. And if I am wrong about something, show me.

You have to admit though, the CIA et al are very good at distracting people.


Click for Privacy and Preparedness files

I've listened to preachers I've listened to fools I've watched all the dropouts Who make their own rules One person conditioned to rule and control The media sells it and you live the role ~Ozzy Osbourne: Crazy Train

PSUSA  posted on  2010-08-22   14:44:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: PSUSA (#42)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-08-22   14:45:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: wudidiz (#38)

Did you watch the video?

Why would I?

I already debunked your claims about that pic. What good would it do to do that for the entire video? It would be pointless.

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Click for Privacy and Preparedness files

I've listened to preachers I've listened to fools I've watched all the dropouts Who make their own rules One person conditioned to rule and control The media sells it and you live the role ~Ozzy Osbourne: Crazy Train

PSUSA  posted on  2010-08-22   14:46:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: PSUSA (#44)

I already debunked your claims about that pic.

Oh, you're a debunker now are you?

You did no such thing. Not even close. Just because I didn't get into it with you about the picture doesn't mean you win by default. Watch the video that this thread is about or don't bother commenting on it to me as though you have any clue wtf you're talking about.

All this coming from someone who thinks airplanes make clouds.

Don't you have some niggers to hate somewhere?


Oh sure... your own mental projection about your own state of mind works BEST bring CRAP to a political forum?

So next... BatBoy and Hillary are the reason for chemtrails?


wudidiz  posted on  2010-08-22   14:50:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: Eric Stratton, *9-11* (#41)

I agree, that "noseout" thing is ridiculous

Notice, no exit hole in WTC 2:


Oh sure... your own mental projection about your own state of mind works BEST bring CRAP to a political forum?

So next... BatBoy and Hillary are the reason for chemtrails?


wudidiz  posted on  2010-08-22   14:55:17 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: wudidiz, all (#45)

Oh, you're a debunker now are you?

You did no such thing. Not even close. Just because I didn't get into it with you about the picture doesn't mean you win by default. Watch the video that this thread is about or don't bother commenting on it to me as though you have any clue wtf you're talking about.

All this coming from someone who thinks airplanes make clouds.

Don't you have some niggers to hate somewhere?

And there we have it. I suppose it was just a matter of time before you blew up.

You have no one to blame but yourself. You are the one that made the claims about the pic that YOU posted. So doesn't it stand to reason that the claims you make on the entire video are likewise bogus? YOu keep saying "watch the video watch the video". Why should I? DId you or didn't you cherry pick the best "proof" that the video had to offer?

If you can refute what I said in response to you and your claims, then do so. Do it out in the open for all to see.

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Click for Privacy and Preparedness files

I've listened to preachers I've listened to fools I've watched all the dropouts Who make their own rules One person conditioned to rule and control The media sells it and you live the role ~Ozzy Osbourne: Crazy Train

PSUSA  posted on  2010-08-22   14:57:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: PSUSA, Original_Intent (#47)

The picture I posted to OI was to illustrate to him that the background was removed. I did that because OI can't watch videos.

You can.

If you were to take the small amount of time to watch the portion I told you about starting at 4:40, you would see that the two videos are taken from the same point. The difference between the two is that one is original and the other is edited.

You don't need to get hung up on the photo.

Look past the photo. Look past the niggers.

I took the time to find where in the 22 minute video you could watch the original NBC clip and the faked one.

The least you could do is watch it so you would be informed to comment.


Oh sure... your own mental projection about your own state of mind works BEST bring CRAP to a political forum?

So next... BatBoy and Hillary are the reason for chemtrails?


wudidiz  posted on  2010-08-22   15:04:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: wudidiz (#46)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-08-22   16:06:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: wudidiz (#24)

lol........what a great gif!!

"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations

abraxas  posted on  2010-08-22   22:38:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: Eric Stratton (#41)

I agree, that "noseout" thing is ridiculous and I never really gave it much thought before

Ditto.

Double ditto on the wings doing no damage at the PentaCON. Not to mention that the plane would have had to take out a hell of a lot more than a mere five light poles to cruise at that low speed into the building........without harming the AMAZING, ASTOUNDING PENTALAWN!!

"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations

abraxas  posted on  2010-08-22   22:42:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: PSUSA (#44)

Did you watch the video? Why would I?

This thread is BASED ON THAT VIDEO.

So, it's a really good reason to view the video.

"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations

abraxas  posted on  2010-08-22   22:44:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: abraxas (#50)

Nice to see you here.


Oh sure... your own mental projection about your own state of mind works BEST bring CRAP to a political forum?

So next... BatBoy and Hillary are the reason for chemtrails?


wudidiz  posted on  2010-08-23   2:36:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: wudidiz, abraxas, PSUSA (#53)

Mr. Walter says in this interview that he heard the roar of the engines of the plane over head and looked up to see, quite clearly, the AA logo of American Airlines on the side of the jet.

Then he says that the plane dove and increased speed toward the Pentagon. Well, if that is the case, then he must have seen the plane a mile or so out because according to the FAA and Norad, that plane was flying low for quite a ways before it struck the Pentagon. How did he hear the “roar of the engines” so far out?

Then he adds the new story-line that he saw the wings of the plane fold back into the body of the jet when it hit.

Look at the pictures from the only release 5 frames of the actual video from the attack.

How did someone “see” the wings “fold back against the plane” in that millisecond of impact that was obscured by the fireball? He couldn’t have. It’s impossible.

But even more telling than all of this…

His original interview with CNN on the day of the attacks.

“I mean it was like a cruise missile with wings, went right there and slammed into the Pentagon,” eyewitness Mike Walter said of the plane that hit the military complex.

“Huge explosion, great ball of fire, smoke started billowing out, and then it was just chaos on the highway as people either tried to move around the traffic and go down either forward or backwards,” he said.

Nothing about the wings folding back. Nothing about the AA logo. In fact, he said it was like a “cruise missile with wings“.

Now here he is, pawning off the latest story from the administration that the wings “folded in” and that explains why the wings didn’t break off and they didn’t leave an outline of a plane in the side of the Pentagon, like what happened at the Trade Center.

Mike Walters is a pathetic liar. He is lying about a terrorist attack on U.S. soil which claimed thousands of lives. In the interest of national security, he should be held for questioning.

link

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It would greatly improve his credibility if he produced the list of CIA assets in the media and showed us that he's not on it.

Also, Walter is obviously not his given name, and....well, you know the rest......

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2010-08-23   15:59:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: HOUNDDAWG, wudidiz, all (#54) (Edited)

Mike Walters is a pathetic liar. He is lying about a terrorist attack on U.S. soil which claimed thousands of lives. In the interest of national security, he should be held for questioning.

link

Here's another press liar at the link you posted who should be held for questioning, Jamie McIntyre, CNN Senior Pentagon Correspondent:

The Pentagon 9/11/2001: CNN - Evidence Tampering
http://www.youtube.com/watch? v=W1yERU2TeUI&feature=player_related

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

GreyLmist  posted on  2010-08-24   21:27:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: abraxas (#51) (Edited)

on the wings doing no damage at the PentaCON

Isn't it amazing how no wings of the alleged planes at the WTC folded on impact with all those steel beams so close together there? An Official Conspiracy theorist chalks that up to aluminum alloy having a higher tensile strength than structural steel and to Depleted Uranium reinforcing the nosecone and wings. Another explained that the strongest part of a planes wings are the shoulders because they have to support the engines. I guess they want us to think the alleged plane at the Pentagon was nosecone reinforced enough to act like a cruise missle but not reinforced enough to keep the wings outstretched and the engines supported like at the WTC. /s

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

GreyLmist  posted on  2010-08-24   22:00:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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