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Title: New 9/11 3D Analysis Suggests Top Secret Device Hit World Trade Center
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Published: Aug 12, 2010
Author: Johnny Punish
Post Date: 2010-08-21 05:36:30 by wudidiz
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New 9/11 3D Analysis Suggests Top Secret Device Hit World Trade Center
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#37. To: wudidiz (#36)
Nice try. You said, and I quote you directly, that this was the Same camera shot, same distance, same angle, same time (notice smoke cloud), different background. The picture on the left had no airliner in it. The faked one on the right did. Where did the background go? Why was there no plane in the original video? (Only on NBC) I've shown that this was not the same camera shot, you don't know what the distance was, the angle is only similar. You can account for the different background by using 2 different altitudes. If you are higher up, you point the camera down, getting a different background than if you were at the same altitude pointing the camera parallel to the horizon, or not pointing the camera down at as steep of an angle. The pic on the right looks like it was taken from a lower altitude since you see more of the roof area on the pic on the left. This would not show the same background. .
Click for Privacy and Preparedness files I've listened to preachers I've listened to fools I've watched all the dropouts Who make their own rules One person conditioned to rule and control The media sells it and you live the role ~Ozzy Osbourne: Crazy Train
Did you watch the video?
One was shot in low resolution the other one higher. It is no wonder a plane moving fast could appear as a ball on a low resolution cam-corder. New evidence like this does not emerge 9 years from the time of the event. It just doesn't happen. If there was a damn ball there you would have heard about it a lot sooner than now! This video is pure dis-info put out by the CIA/Mossad. Fuck them, and all the idiots dumb enough to believe this lie.
God is always good!
Resolution has nothing to do with it. The two videos, one original live from NBC and the other obviously edited, show two completely different trajectories. This is not new. The video, "September Clues" was done years ago.
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.
I know. I just don't like to say it right off. I'd rather show it. And if I am wrong about something, show me. You have to admit though, the CIA et al are very good at distracting people.
Click for Privacy and Preparedness files I've listened to preachers I've listened to fools I've watched all the dropouts Who make their own rules One person conditioned to rule and control The media sells it and you live the role ~Ozzy Osbourne: Crazy Train
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.
Why would I? I already debunked your claims about that pic. What good would it do to do that for the entire video? It would be pointless. .
Click for Privacy and Preparedness files I've listened to preachers I've listened to fools I've watched all the dropouts Who make their own rules One person conditioned to rule and control The media sells it and you live the role ~Ozzy Osbourne: Crazy Train
Oh, you're a debunker now are you? You did no such thing. Not even close. Just because I didn't get into it with you about the picture doesn't mean you win by default. Watch the video that this thread is about or don't bother commenting on it to me as though you have any clue wtf you're talking about. All this coming from someone who thinks airplanes make clouds. Don't you have some niggers to hate somewhere?
Notice, no exit hole in WTC 2: You did no such thing. Not even close. Just because I didn't get into it with you about the picture doesn't mean you win by default. Watch the video that this thread is about or don't bother commenting on it to me as though you have any clue wtf you're talking about. All this coming from someone who thinks airplanes make clouds. Don't you have some niggers to hate somewhere? And there we have it. I suppose it was just a matter of time before you blew up. You have no one to blame but yourself. You are the one that made the claims about the pic that YOU posted. So doesn't it stand to reason that the claims you make on the entire video are likewise bogus? YOu keep saying "watch the video watch the video". Why should I? DId you or didn't you cherry pick the best "proof" that the video had to offer? If you can refute what I said in response to you and your claims, then do so. Do it out in the open for all to see. .
Click for Privacy and Preparedness files I've listened to preachers I've listened to fools I've watched all the dropouts Who make their own rules One person conditioned to rule and control The media sells it and you live the role ~Ozzy Osbourne: Crazy Train
The picture I posted to OI was to illustrate to him that the background was removed. I did that because OI can't watch videos. You can. If you were to take the small amount of time to watch the portion I told you about starting at 4:40, you would see that the two videos are taken from the same point. The difference between the two is that one is original and the other is edited. You don't need to get hung up on the photo. Look past the photo. Look past the niggers. I took the time to find where in the 22 minute video you could watch the original NBC clip and the faked one. The least you could do is watch it so you would be informed to comment.
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.
lol........what a great gif!!
"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations
Ditto. Double ditto on the wings doing no damage at the PentaCON. Not to mention that the plane would have had to take out a hell of a lot more than a mere five light poles to cruise at that low speed into the building........without harming the AMAZING, ASTOUNDING PENTALAWN!!
"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations
This thread is BASED ON THAT VIDEO. So, it's a really good reason to view the video.
"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations
Nice to see you here.
Mr. Walter says in this interview that he heard the roar of the engines of the plane over head and looked up to see, quite clearly, the AA logo of American Airlines on the side of the jet. Then he says that the plane dove and increased speed toward the Pentagon. Well, if that is the case, then he must have seen the plane a mile or so out because according to the FAA and Norad, that plane was flying low for quite a ways before it struck the Pentagon. How did he hear the “roar of the engines” so far out? Then he adds the new story-line that he saw the wings of the plane fold back into the body of the jet when it hit. Look at the pictures from the only release 5 frames of the actual video from the attack. How did someone “see” the wings “fold back against the plane” in that millisecond of impact that was obscured by the fireball? He couldn’t have. It’s impossible. But even more telling than all of this… His original interview with CNN on the day of the attacks. “I mean it was like a cruise missile with wings, went right there and slammed into the Pentagon,” eyewitness Mike Walter said of the plane that hit the military complex. “Huge explosion, great ball of fire, smoke started billowing out, and then it was just chaos on the highway as people either tried to move around the traffic and go down either forward or backwards,” he said. Nothing about the wings folding back. Nothing about the AA logo. In fact, he said it was like a “cruise missile with wings“. Now here he is, pawning off the latest story from the administration that the wings “folded in” and that explains why the wings didn’t break off and they didn’t leave an outline of a plane in the side of the Pentagon, like what happened at the Trade Center. Mike Walters is a pathetic liar. He is lying about a terrorist attack on U.S. soil which claimed thousands of lives. In the interest of national security, he should be held for questioning. _________________________________ It would greatly improve his credibility if he produced the list of CIA assets in the media and showed us that he's not on it. Also, Walter is obviously not his given name, and....well, you know the rest......
Here's another press liar at the link you posted who should be held for questioning, Jamie McIntyre, CNN Senior Pentagon Correspondent: The Pentagon 9/11/2001: CNN - Evidence Tampering
------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
Isn't it amazing how no wings of the alleged planes at the WTC folded on impact with all those steel beams so close together there? An Official Conspiracy theorist chalks that up to aluminum alloy having a higher tensile strength than structural steel and to Depleted Uranium reinforcing the nosecone and wings. Another explained that the strongest part of a planes wings are the shoulders because they have to support the engines. I guess they want us to think the alleged plane at the Pentagon was nosecone reinforced enough to act like a cruise missle but not reinforced enough to keep the wings outstretched and the engines supported like at the WTC. /s
------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
It is amazing. We no longer live in the land of opportunity. It's the land of coincidences at a trillion to one odds.
"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations
Approx. 7 min video with phone interview of "Flt. 175" filmer, Michael Hezarkhani, at around the halfway mark:
------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
Nice, thank you.
Within the first minute of this video, the ABC newscaster asks if a side of WTC 2 fell down. Why did he ask that rather than if the whole building fell? I suppose because the only smoke and debris from the collapse is shown billowing off to the left of WTC 1 and none is seen on the right side of it. Yet another "coincidence" with like a trillion to one odds. Continuous Pieces 9/11 v2.0 - Part 6 0f 8
------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
Yes it does, it has everything to do with a fast moving jet airliner appearing as if it were a ball on a low resolution camera with a low frame rate. The so-called buster here is busted. No they don't. Did you even watch the video YOU posted? Yes it is, or there would have been numerous eye witnesses to this ball being seen. You can't cover something like that up. Really, think about it just a little. So? 9/11 was almost 9 years ago. Where were the "ball" stories the first week after 9/11? They didn't exist.
God is always good!
They are here, no doubt about it. Either that or America is more hopelessly lost than I thought.
God is always good!
Compare this CNN-aired video of alleged Flt. 175 flying in from the right side of the screen at 3:26 to the CNN-aired Harkhani video from behind WTC 2. The plane angles to the building and to the smoke directions should be investigated, imo. CNN 9/11 8:59 - 9:09
------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
No, he says they folded back, not in. If they would have folded forward, at least physics could have supported that, but he says they folded backward, which would have been impossible if they didn't hit anything before the plane's nose hit the building.
God is always good!
Yes it does, it has everything to do with a fast moving jet airliner appearing as if it were a ball on a low resolution camera with a low frame rate. The so-called buster here is busted. The two videos, one original live from NBC and the other obviously edited, show two completely different trajectories. No they don't. Did you even watch the video YOU posted? This is not new. Yes it is, or there would have been numerous eye witnesses to this ball being seen. You can't cover something like that up. Really, think about it just a little. The video, "September Clues" was done years ago. So? 9/11 was almost 9 years ago. Where were the "ball" stories the first week after 9/11? They didn't exist. Resolution has Nothing to do with the different trajectory. Which is what I meant in post #40. Yes, I watched the video I posted. That's how I could see the very different trajectory. Now, I just went back to the video again. www.veteranstoday.com/201...e-hit-world-trade-center/ Pause it at 4:52 and tell me you don't see what I see. You made a good point about the no witnesses. Call me an idiot again and I'll kick you in the fucking head.
Just kidding. The different video only aired on NBC btw and they changed it later. I can prove it.
The video you posted did not show a different trajectory, it was exactly the same as the ball's. Going by the monotone presenter's voice and drawing of lines on a video proves nothing. The trajectories were the same. One, they weren't synced, two, they weren't from the same angle, one was shot from a helicopter, the other one was shot from a lower angle. Which is why the backgrounds are different, one was the sky, the other was the river and sky. Come on, you should be use to it by now, you idiot.
God is always good!
www.veteranstoday.com/201...e-hit-world-trade-center/ Pause it at 4:52 and tell me you don't see what I see.
Can I have a link please?
Pause it at 4:52 and tell me you don't see what I see. ...or maybe you just want to pretend we never had this conversation?
You: Can I have a link please? I'm sorry. I spelled the name wrong there. The correct spelling is Hezarkhani. It's the same "CNN FAKE FOOTAGE BLASTED" video about the Michael Hezarkhani footage that was posted by me at #58 and again by you at #59. Do you think maybe you could measure for comparison the plane angles to the WTC 1 smoke direction angles in that video and the other CNN footage at #63 (3:26 min mark)? I hope so.
------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
I spent about half an hour comparing the two videos side by side. This one: "CNN FAKE FOOTAGE BLASTED" video about the Michael Hezarkhani footage at about :22 And this one: CNN 9/11 8:59 - 9:09 at 3:26 and as best I can tell, they match up. Both planes seem to be following the same trajectory at the same angle and hitting the same building in the same place. I have no way of measuring it other than that at this time.
The Hezarkhani footage is also mentioned at the 12:28 min. mark in the 3D Analysis video posted by you as the subject of this thread. Right after that, at 14:28, the Evan Fairbanks footage is shown with the smoke going towards the left of the screen, like the CNN footage at Post #63 but the "plane" is not flying in from the right side of the screen in the Fairbanks video. It is flying in from the left of the screen and under the smoke -- smoke that is moving away from the plane in the CNN film, not towards it. Do you see what I mean? The plane angles compared to the smoke directions are very obviously contradictory in those network examples but what's even odder, imo, is how the official storyliners and planes devotees stubbornly stay their course of targeting CGI messengers rather than any media productions of CGI fakery and endorsements of it. ABC's 911 Fairbanks Video is Fake!! [My note: but Sarah Boxer calls it "a Zapruder film for our time" in her 11-22- 01 New York Times article, PHOTOGRAPHY REVIEW; Catching the World in the Act of Changing]
------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
Ok, thanks for checking. If you could compare the Evan Fairbanks video, too, I'd appreciate it.
------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
I'm going to have to look at that later, please remind me if I don't reply.
Do you realize, that evidence of video fakery is NOT evidence of no planes? There were many eyewitnesses to the plane that hit the second tower. What does it accomplish to say there were no planes? Does this in anyway make the CIA/Mossad/American military/ MSM any more responsible for 9/11? No, it doesn't. Pushing a "gravity ball" hit the tower story, even if somehow true, which I highly doubt it is, will not get people to see that 9/11 was an inside job, it will only make people think you are nuts. A ball would have a good shot of being seen by many, so why would they risk disclosure of such technology, if it even exists, when they can just blow a whole in the side of the towers and say planes hit them?
God is always good!
I answered you in an earlier post. Either one, or both of those videos could be fakes. It is even possible I think for them both to be legit too if they were not from the same camera or the same angle. Either way believing a "gravity ball" hit the WTC towers is in the realm of cukoo land, and I will have nothing to do with such idiocy.
God is always good!
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#38. To: PSUSA (#37)
#39. To: PSUSA (#37)
#40. To: RickyJ (#39)
#41. To: wudidiz (#34)
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#42. To: RickyJ (#39)
#43. To: PSUSA (#42)
#44. To: wudidiz (#38)
Did you watch the video?
#45. To: PSUSA (#44)
I already debunked your claims about that pic.
#46. To: Eric Stratton, *9-11* (#41)
I agree, that "noseout" thing is ridiculous
#47. To: wudidiz, all (#45)
Oh, you're a debunker now are you?
#48. To: PSUSA, Original_Intent (#47)
#49. To: wudidiz (#46)
#50. To: wudidiz (#24)
#51. To: Eric Stratton (#41)
I agree, that "noseout" thing is ridiculous and I never really gave it much thought before
#52. To: PSUSA (#44)
Did you watch the video? Why would I?
#53. To: abraxas (#50)
#54. To: wudidiz, abraxas, PSUSA (#53)
#55. To: HOUNDDAWG, wudidiz, all (#54)
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Mike Walters is a pathetic liar. He is lying about a terrorist attack on U.S. soil which claimed thousands of lives. In the interest of national security, he should be held for questioning.
http://www.youtube.com/watch? v=W1yERU2TeUI&feature=player_related
#56. To: abraxas (#51)
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on the wings doing no damage at the PentaCON
#57. To: GreyLmist (#56)
#58. To: wudidiz (#0)
#59. To: GreyLmist (#58)
Approx. 7 min video with phone interview of "Flt. 175" filmer, Michael Hezarkhani, at around the halfway mark:
#60. To: abraxas (#57)
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We no longer live in the land of opportunity. It's the land of coincidences at a trillion to one odds.
http://www.youtube.com/watch? v=r4xq58cB020&feature=related
#61. To: wudidiz (#40)
Resolution has nothing to do with it.
The two videos, one original live from NBC and the other obviously edited, show two completely different trajectories.
This is not new.
The video, "September Clues" was done years ago.
#62. To: PSUSA (#42)
You have to admit though, the CIA et al are very good at distracting people.
#63. To: wudidiz (#59)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6YVUb5BEyz4
#64. To: HOUNDDAWG (#54)
Now here he is, pawning off the latest story from the administration that the wings “folded in”
#65. To: RickyJ (#61)
Resolution has nothing to do with it.
#66. To: RickyJ (#65)
I'll kick you in the fucking head
#67. To: wudidiz (#65)
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Resolution has Nothing to do with the different trajectory.
Call me an idiot again and I'll kick you in the fucking head.
#68. To: RickyJ (#67)
#69. To: GreyLmist (#63)
Harkhani video
#70. To: RickyJ (#68)
www.veteranstoday.com/201...e-hit-world-trade-center/
#71. To: wudidiz (#69)
Me: Harkhani video
#72. To: GreyLmist (#71)
#73. To: wudidiz (#69)
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_b2Uk6ngQD8
#74. To: wudidiz (#72)
#75. To: GreyLmist (#73)
#76. To: GreyLmist (#73)
planes devotees stubbornly stay their course
#77. To: wudidiz (#70)
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