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Title: New 9/11 3D Analysis Suggests Top Secret Device Hit World Trade Center
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Published: Aug 12, 2010
Author: Johnny Punish
Post Date: 2010-08-21 05:36:30 by wudidiz
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New 9/11 3D Analysis Suggests Top Secret Device Hit World Trade Center
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#61. To: wudidiz (#40)
Yes it does, it has everything to do with a fast moving jet airliner appearing as if it were a ball on a low resolution camera with a low frame rate. The so-called buster here is busted. No they don't. Did you even watch the video YOU posted? Yes it is, or there would have been numerous eye witnesses to this ball being seen. You can't cover something like that up. Really, think about it just a little. So? 9/11 was almost 9 years ago. Where were the "ball" stories the first week after 9/11? They didn't exist.
God is always good!
They are here, no doubt about it. Either that or America is more hopelessly lost than I thought.
God is always good!
Compare this CNN-aired video of alleged Flt. 175 flying in from the right side of the screen at 3:26 to the CNN-aired Harkhani video from behind WTC 2. The plane angles to the building and to the smoke directions should be investigated, imo. CNN 9/11 8:59 - 9:09
------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
No, he says they folded back, not in. If they would have folded forward, at least physics could have supported that, but he says they folded backward, which would have been impossible if they didn't hit anything before the plane's nose hit the building.
God is always good!
Yes it does, it has everything to do with a fast moving jet airliner appearing as if it were a ball on a low resolution camera with a low frame rate. The so-called buster here is busted. The two videos, one original live from NBC and the other obviously edited, show two completely different trajectories. No they don't. Did you even watch the video YOU posted? This is not new. Yes it is, or there would have been numerous eye witnesses to this ball being seen. You can't cover something like that up. Really, think about it just a little. The video, "September Clues" was done years ago. So? 9/11 was almost 9 years ago. Where were the "ball" stories the first week after 9/11? They didn't exist. Resolution has Nothing to do with the different trajectory. Which is what I meant in post #40. Yes, I watched the video I posted. That's how I could see the very different trajectory. Now, I just went back to the video again. www.veteranstoday.com/201...e-hit-world-trade-center/ Pause it at 4:52 and tell me you don't see what I see. You made a good point about the no witnesses. Call me an idiot again and I'll kick you in the fucking head.
Just kidding. The different video only aired on NBC btw and they changed it later. I can prove it.
The video you posted did not show a different trajectory, it was exactly the same as the ball's. Going by the monotone presenter's voice and drawing of lines on a video proves nothing. The trajectories were the same. One, they weren't synced, two, they weren't from the same angle, one was shot from a helicopter, the other one was shot from a lower angle. Which is why the backgrounds are different, one was the sky, the other was the river and sky. Come on, you should be use to it by now, you idiot.
God is always good!
www.veteranstoday.com/201...e-hit-world-trade-center/ Pause it at 4:52 and tell me you don't see what I see.
Can I have a link please?
Pause it at 4:52 and tell me you don't see what I see. ...or maybe you just want to pretend we never had this conversation?
You: Can I have a link please? I'm sorry. I spelled the name wrong there. The correct spelling is Hezarkhani. It's the same "CNN FAKE FOOTAGE BLASTED" video about the Michael Hezarkhani footage that was posted by me at #58 and again by you at #59. Do you think maybe you could measure for comparison the plane angles to the WTC 1 smoke direction angles in that video and the other CNN footage at #63 (3:26 min mark)? I hope so.
------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
I spent about half an hour comparing the two videos side by side. This one: "CNN FAKE FOOTAGE BLASTED" video about the Michael Hezarkhani footage at about :22 And this one: CNN 9/11 8:59 - 9:09 at 3:26 and as best I can tell, they match up. Both planes seem to be following the same trajectory at the same angle and hitting the same building in the same place. I have no way of measuring it other than that at this time.
The Hezarkhani footage is also mentioned at the 12:28 min. mark in the 3D Analysis video posted by you as the subject of this thread. Right after that, at 14:28, the Evan Fairbanks footage is shown with the smoke going towards the left of the screen, like the CNN footage at Post #63 but the "plane" is not flying in from the right side of the screen in the Fairbanks video. It is flying in from the left of the screen and under the smoke -- smoke that is moving away from the plane in the CNN film, not towards it. Do you see what I mean? The plane angles compared to the smoke directions are very obviously contradictory in those network examples but what's even odder, imo, is how the official storyliners and planes devotees stubbornly stay their course of targeting CGI messengers rather than any media productions of CGI fakery and endorsements of it. ABC's 911 Fairbanks Video is Fake!! [My note: but Sarah Boxer calls it "a Zapruder film for our time" in her 11-22- 01 New York Times article, PHOTOGRAPHY REVIEW; Catching the World in the Act of Changing]
------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
Ok, thanks for checking. If you could compare the Evan Fairbanks video, too, I'd appreciate it.
------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
I'm going to have to look at that later, please remind me if I don't reply.
Do you realize, that evidence of video fakery is NOT evidence of no planes? There were many eyewitnesses to the plane that hit the second tower. What does it accomplish to say there were no planes? Does this in anyway make the CIA/Mossad/American military/ MSM any more responsible for 9/11? No, it doesn't. Pushing a "gravity ball" hit the tower story, even if somehow true, which I highly doubt it is, will not get people to see that 9/11 was an inside job, it will only make people think you are nuts. A ball would have a good shot of being seen by many, so why would they risk disclosure of such technology, if it even exists, when they can just blow a whole in the side of the towers and say planes hit them?
God is always good!
I answered you in an earlier post. Either one, or both of those videos could be fakes. It is even possible I think for them both to be legit too if they were not from the same camera or the same angle. Either way believing a "gravity ball" hit the WTC towers is in the realm of cukoo land, and I will have nothing to do with such idiocy.
God is always good!
Your reasoning is absurd. You are capable of conjuring ideas why someone should not examine this or investigate it, but you haven't given any proof there was a plane. In fact, the video with the nose out, which aired on a few major tv news channels, is obviously fake. So if that's not the plane, then where is the plane? Who gives a flying fuck if people think we're nuts? All I care about is the truth.
"Heavens no!, people might think we're crazy...." lol
All I care about is the truth. If you want to overthrow the people who did 9.11, you should care.
God is always good!
Maybe you're right, but I doubt it. I have little faith the Rothschilds, Rockefellers, Elite... will be removed from power. Unless there is a miracle such as Jesus returning and vaporizing each and every one of them. I appreciate your intention, that is having them overthrown, but don't believe how we argue 9/11 will have any significant effect on that happening or not.
that's brilliant. tagline material.
There were many eyewitnesses to the plane that hit the second tower. I'll debate the alleged witnesses if you want but, just so you know, I don't consider them tangible evidence of said planes and many have been shown to be suspect as accomplices. Don't you think hoaxers of such magnitude would have fake-witnesses planted and scripted in to provide them with cover and the illusion of "reality"? Of course they would. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zeuxis Zeuxis and his contemporary Parrhasius (of Ephesus and later Athens) are reported in the Naturalis Historia of Pliny the Elder to have staged a contest to determine which of the two was the greater artist. When Zeuxis unveiled his painting of grapes, they appeared so luscious and inviting that birds flew down from the sky to peck at them. Zeuxis then asked Parrhasius to pull aside the curtain from his painting, only for Parrhasius to reveal the curtain itself was a painting, and Zeuxis was forced to concede defeat. Zeuxis is rumoured to have said: 'I have deceived the birds, but Parrhasius has deceived Zeuxis.' What does saying there were planes accomplish besides presumed "justification" for two wars and the possible disappearance of 4 planes into the black market, likely with QRS11 gyro-chips that have dual-uses in guided missle technology? Do you expect to paint those orgs as monolithically guilty of something criminal re: 9/11 -- just not re: the "Fantastic Four planes"? There are people implicated in those orgs and others like PNAC. Charging the orgs they are members of as guilty by association probably isn't going to get those orgs imprisoned or abolished so what is your objective? Boeing has already been charged and fined for trafficking in prohibited dual-use parts over 100 times. Even so, every employee wasn't responsible for that and they're still in business. So what if particular personnel there might be guilty of 4 more such violations re: 9/11? If LEO-investigators were more motivated by public approval than collaring suspects, our prisons wouldn't be so heavily populated. I'm more concerned with who is a suspect and why than what monolithic orgs they're affiliated with and what the official storyliners/planes devotees think of "heretics" like me. I suspect they did just blow a hole in the side of the towers and say planes hit them -- at the Pentagon too, for whatever reason(s) there by whoever. What appears to be a ball in the video was investigated and it would be remiss not to have analyzed it as anomolous. If all the video managed to do was show me what it would have looked like if there was a wide enough opening between the buildings to see the "plane" cross that space, had that angle been filmed by anyone, I'd appreciate it for that because I've looked at many, many videos searching specifically for such a perspective and surprisingly to no avail, what with all the alleged "witnesses with cameras" supposedly round about.
------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
You're a pretty smart character, GreyLmist.
Why, thank you so much, pardner. I think you're a real smart character yourself. :)
------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
Omg, I can't believe I'm a no-planer lol ;-)
You be cool in my estimation. ^5 :) Let's party and sing-along with Dobie Gray's "The In Crowd":
------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.
Thank you, Eric. Since I don't believe planes were used in the scenarios, I don't believe there were passengers on them. That's not to say I don't believe there were any actual victims at all named on the passenger lists who might have been killed otherwise and "written off" that way for insurance purposes, or just to do away with them, or whatever. Their loved ones might even believe that's what happened to them. Some might have been given new identities and "written off" that way as an exit strategy. Some might have been extraordinarily renditioned. There are several possibilities but I try to differentiate between who might have been victimized and who might be what's called a "vicsim" -- a simulated fictional character to "fill out" the storyline, for false insurance and/or 9/11 Fund claims, that sort of thing. Barbara Olson is not a "vicsim" but a real person. She may have been victimized or she may have changed her identity, who knows? I hope that helps some to reconcile your concerns.
------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
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I dont think there were any buildings. hehehehehehe
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Wud wont allow me to participate, but he didnt say I could not add some foolishness.
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Believe it or not, there are some newsclips that only show WTC 1 and an explosion behind it, like this WTC 2 hideaway angle from ABC: ------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
And he was definitely scheduled for a flight that a.m., 77 in fact. Again, just trying to piece it together. Even if you had known her alleged husband in person, that wouldn't exactly rule out the possibility of something elaborately similar to the faked backgrounds of the recently arrested Russian Spies in America: WHDH-TV - Russian spies in Cambridge held without bail BOSTON -- According to prosecutors, Don Heathfield and Tracey Foley, may have been hand-picked by the Russian government, and told to have children to better blend here in America. The criminal complaint calls the alleged spies "Illegals who are placed together and cohabit in the country to which they are assigned will often have children together; this further deepens an illegal's legend." The government says "Legend" is another name for the Russian's fake identities. Like the suspected Cambridge couple, suspects Richard and Cynthia Murphy of Monclair, New Jersey appeared all-American as well. Prosecutors make them out as the most important players in the ring, [end excerpt] ----------- How well do you know the other person in the D.C. area that you think lost a loved one that day? Had you known any of them prior to being chased off for trying to photograph near the Pentagon?
------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
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Bummer. I'm wondering if they were stolen.
------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
Don't think for a moment that your posting has gone unnoticed, Cyni.
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I'm thinking that I threw them out, but if not, they're in some box. So, you're saying you're not the most organized person in the world? lol Ok, I'll admit it. I'm not either. :) There's some good guy LEOs around here but the one that jolted me the most said this: "The Constitution? That's too deep for me."
------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
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Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/LatestResolution has nothing to do with it.
The two videos, one original live from NBC and the other obviously edited, show two completely different trajectories.
This is not new.
The video, "September Clues" was done years ago.
#62. To: PSUSA (#42)
You have to admit though, the CIA et al are very good at distracting people.
#63. To: wudidiz (#59)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6YVUb5BEyz4
#64. To: HOUNDDAWG (#54)
Now here he is, pawning off the latest story from the administration that the wings “folded in”
#65. To: RickyJ (#61)
Resolution has nothing to do with it.
#66. To: RickyJ (#65)
I'll kick you in the fucking head
#67. To: wudidiz (#65)
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Resolution has Nothing to do with the different trajectory.
Call me an idiot again and I'll kick you in the fucking head.
#68. To: RickyJ (#67)
#69. To: GreyLmist (#63)
Harkhani video
#70. To: RickyJ (#68)
www.veteranstoday.com/201...e-hit-world-trade-center/
#71. To: wudidiz (#69)
Me: Harkhani video
#72. To: GreyLmist (#71)
#73. To: wudidiz (#69)
(Edited)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_b2Uk6ngQD8
#74. To: wudidiz (#72)
#75. To: GreyLmist (#73)
#76. To: GreyLmist (#73)
planes devotees stubbornly stay their course
#77. To: wudidiz (#70)
#78. To: RickyJ, GreyLmist (#77)
#79. To: All (#78)
#80. To: wudidiz (#78)
Who gives a flying fuck if people think we're nuts?
#81. To: RickyJ (#80)
If you want to overthrow the people who did 9.11, you should care.
#82. To: abraxas (#57)
It is amazing. We no longer live in the land of opportunity. It's the land of coincidences at a trillion to one odds.
#83. To: RickyJ, wudidiz (#76)
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Do you realize, that evidence of video fakery is NOT evidence of no planes?
What does it accomplish to say there were no planes? Does this in anyway make the CIA/Mossad/American military/ MSM any more responsible for 9/11? No, it doesn't.
Pushing a "gravity ball" hit the tower story, even if somehow true, which I highly doubt it is, will not get people to see that 9/11 was an inside job, it will only make people think you are nuts. A ball would have a good shot of being seen by many, so why would they risk disclosure of such technology, if it even exists, when they can just blow a whole in the side of the towers and say planes hit them?
#84. To: GreyLmist, Original_Intent, noone222, HOUNDDAWG, christine, Eric Stratton, Jethro Tull, Dakmar, RickyJ, *Post Of The Day* (#83)
#85. To: wudidiz (#84)
#86. To: GreyLmist, all (#85)
#87. To: wudidiz (#86)
#88. To: GreyLmist (#83)
#89. To: Eric Stratton (#88)
#90. To: GreyLmist (#89)
#91. To: Eric Stratton (#90)
#92. To: Cynicom (#91)
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#93. To: Eric Stratton (#92)
#94. To: Cynicom (#93)
#95. To: Cynicom (#91)
I dont think there were any buildings. hehehehehehe
#96. To: Eric Stratton (#90)
I only ask because I know two people here in the DC area now w/o "loved ones" lost. One on 77 supposedly. It was her husband, she was a good friend of my wife. He's obviously gone, she's remarried, old house sold, moved, etc. Two kids I believe.
#97. To: GreyLmist (#96)
#98. To: Eric Stratton (#97)
I can't find the pics though, I'm wondering if I threw them out thinking that there was nothing on them. But there were some good telephotos of the site from later that day.
#99. To: Cynicom (#93)
Why would an obviously faked video of a plane hitting the WTC be aired on International news? Why wouldn't they just use a real video of the plane?
#100. To: GreyLmist (#98)
#101. To: Eric Stratton (#100)
The task of finding them would have left too much evidence had anyone tried it. LOL
On a separate but related note, it's funny, because if there's one thing that I think when someone says "9/11," besides it being a complete ruse, to me it's the day that LEOs in Amerika became complete AHs.
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