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Title: Christians- Zionism's Useful Idiots
Source: HenryMakow.com
URL Source: http://www.henrymakow.com/_by_tim_campbell_you.html
Published: Aug 23, 2010
Author: Tim Campbell
Post Date: 2010-08-23 09:59:40 by Eric Stratton
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Views: 455
Comments: 30

Christians- Zionism's Useful Idiots
By Tim Campbell (countitjoy5@yahoo.com)
November 8, 2009

You know the imagery-- millions of Christians around the world have spontaneously disappeared - where did they go? Some say aliens, others terrorists. Now airplanes are plummeting to destruction, trains derailing, cars crashing, nuclear power plants are melting down and dumbfounded people staggering around in confusion looking for their children... Who unleashed this insanity on mankind?

My brother, who is an atheist, and I were watching TBN a while back and happened upon these images from Kirk Cameron's blockbuster film, Left Behind. There were no shortages of side-splitting laughs.

The false ideas put forward in most movies and books pertaining to end-times Biblical prophecy appear to most as sheer unadulterated religious stupidity but to the majority of protestant Christians particularly, in America, they are both real and imminent.

Illuminist propaganda concerning the return of Jesus Christ occupies a central part in a vast structure of deception that will govern Christian minds when some Great Tribulation actually does occur.

C.I. Scofield's Dispensationalism provides the theological framework for the Christian Zionist movement. Christian Zionism is an important subset of the Christian Dominionist movement, all of which is also being co-opted by Illuminists. These Christians are the ultimate useful idiots... I stagger to communicate what is coming to Christendom in the future.

The expectation of a false rapture event will be brought to a feverish boil through massive disinformation campaigns as general distress increases over the next decade.

This madness will then be satiated through a pseudo-rapture simulation, something that will trigger the mass hysteria. We see a prototype of this in the particular elements of the Blue Beam project.

This rapture event will be an attempt to bring Christians Dominionists on side for King Zion, Lord Maitreya, or the man of sin. A global false worship and initiation rite will be used to lock Christians into a frame of reference that they won't easily escape from, then the mark...

The Scofield Bible heralds the coming kingdom of the Jews in which God's Chosen People shall reign over all the earth. Scofield, a notorious criminal who popularized dispensational theology, is revered by many Christian evangelicals. Everywhere that evangelism in America goes, these lies will most surely follow. That is unfortunate, but it is by design.

While part of the Lotus Club in New York during the late 19th century, Scofield was brought under the domain of Zionists by Samuel Untermeyer, an illuminist. Untermeyer and other key Zionist's recognized within Scofield's theology a very powerful weapon for their cause... and it has flourished in its acceptance until this day. Dispensational theology is a major contributor in the founding and continuance of the current Jewish state.

Untermeyer later became chairman of the Anti-Nazi league, American Jewish Committee and American League of Jewish Patriots. He blackmailed President Wilson into placing Louis Dombitz Brandeis into a vacant seat on the Supreme Court. In 1933, on WABC, he declared war on Germany and described Jews as the aristocrats of the world.

Untermeyer brought Scofield into correspondence with many important Zionist leaders of the day like Jacob Schiff, Bernard Baruch and Samuel Gompers to name a few. They were his handlers and funders.

Dispensationalism and its attendant false ideas like the pre-tribulation rapture is probably the most pestilent propaganda being promoted today. The ultimate purpose of these teachings will lead the masses to destruction in the future through a false worship type of event.

This said, the doctrine has many more detrimental immediate consequences. Its exponents find refuge in the comfort of not having to participate in the future affairs of mankind. Potent deceptions surround the Christian Zionist movement and Dispensationalism - dig here; there is no end to what you will uncover.

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#1. To: Eric Stratton (#0)

We need an "Organized Religion Sucks" category.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2010-08-23   10:08:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Jethro Tull (#1)

We need an "Organized Religion Sucks" category.

Very good.

That is what most people fail to see and understand, the ORGANIZED factor.

Cynicom  posted on  2010-08-23   10:13:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Jethro Tull (#1) (Edited)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-08-23   10:20:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Cynicom (#2)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-08-23   10:20:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Cynicom (#2)

the ORGANIZED factor

That's the key.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2010-08-23   10:23:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Eric Stratton (#0)

Bible fundamentalism is the problem, not necessarily organized religion.

In particular, a literal belief by gentiles in the old testament portion of the bible is a major source of political problems in the US.

Organized or unorganized, bible fundamentalism is a core problem.

The bible can easily be shown to be mythology...

www.rejectionof pascalswager.net/bibleanalysis.html

Googolplex  posted on  2010-08-23   10:44:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Eric Stratton (#0)

an interesting poster comment on the article:

Mike said (November 9, 2009):

That was an excellent article by Tim Campbell. And to take his thoughts to their ultimate conclusion, the dispensational movement inside of Christianity is one of the chief supporters and defenders of the cause that will bring about the antichrist! How tragic and ironic that so many Christians are working against the cause of Christ in the name of Christ.

I am very familiar with it all for my background was in dispensationalism, but came out of it over 30 years ago because of my study of the Word of God. Yet many of my Pastor friends are still in it. These are good men, but their training, like mine, was either at a dispensational college or seminary, or they trained under dispensational men. So you can see how the bias was implanted. But many are leaving that position, which is good to hear.

The dispensational movement began back in the 1800's with a book called, The Coming of the Messiah in Glory", or close to that. It was written by a man under the pseudonym of Rabbi Ben Ezra, who allegedly became a Christian. Many Christians lapped it up and it started the Church in England down a different path. The Catholic Apostolic Church was one of the first, then it was the Plymouth Brethren movement, then on to C.I. Scholfield, then on to Dallas Seminary in Texas. Where it now influences most Baptists, Charismatics and Independents.

But little did they know that the man's name wasn't Rabbi Ben Ezra, and he wasn't a converted Jew, but his actual name was Lacunza, (pronounced Lacuntha), and he was a Jesuit priest! In one fell swoop the Church of the Reformation stopped looking for the intrigues of the Pope and the Jesuits, because they now believed that the Church would be raptured before all that!

I've tried to point out the heresy of their position by showing them various doctrines, such as, that the Jews aren't the people of God - they were, but Christians are now. "Once you were not a people, but now, (nun de, ½Å½ ´µ), you are the people of God; once you had not received mercy, but now you have received mercy." 1 Peter 2:10

Another verse, which they misinterpret and misapply, is Genesis 12:7, "And the LORD appeared unto Abram, and said, Unto thy seed will I give this land: and there builded he an altar unto the LORD, who appeared unto him.", where they boldly proclaim that God gave the land to the Jews! But when you go through the text in the original, it's very clear that it's in the masculine singular showing that God gave it to one man. And in Galatians 3:16, "Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ.", the Apostle Paul is very clear in stating that the one man, the seed, that God gave the land to was none other than his Son, Jesus Christ! This is all covered by my Online study, "The Seed".

I have another Online study, which proves that Christ is the heir of the land of Israel, not racial Israelites and that is in the "Parable of the Tenants".

christine  posted on  2010-08-23   10:55:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Eric Stratton (#0)

Actually I hope the Rapture happens. All the assholes will be gone and I'll get their stuff.

Oh man, a free Porsche! Varoon! And think of all the porn those "Christians" hide in their houses! Woo hoo!

“How many Sex and the City fans have funneled all their maternal instincts into their Chinese bulldog without even noticing their ovaries have expired?”

Turtle  posted on  2010-08-23   11:09:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Googolplex (#6)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-08-23   11:22:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Eric Stratton (#0)

SATAN's Money freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/re...gi?ArtNum=121638&Disp=All

Itistoolate  posted on  2010-08-23   11:25:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: christine (#7)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-08-23   11:29:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: christine (#7)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-08-23   11:31:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Itistoolate (#10)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-08-23   11:33:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Eric Stratton (#11)

As to Israel, a quick word study, massively facilitated via Bible s/w these days reducing the time to conduct one to minutes, will reveal that post-"new covenant" Israel refers to people and is meant entirely in a spiritual/metaphorical context. There is absolutely no reference to a geographical land of Israel as it exists today or is suggested by Dispensationalists anywhere in the NT, none whatsoever.

The problem with your theory is that God made a promise to Abraham, that he would give his descendants the land FOREVER. And they have lost the use of the land from time to time but never the ownership, at least not unless you ascribe to the theory that God is a liar. I don't believe he is.

Exodus 32:13 Remember Abraham, Isaac, and Israel, thy servants, to whom thou swarest by thine own self, and saidst unto them, I will multiply your seed as the stars of heaven, and all this land that I have spoken of will I give unto your seed, and they shall inherit [it] for ever.

Not to get into a theological "debate" with you (or anyone else because I don't argue about religion) but you might want to consider that your premise is flawed if you believe God didn't mean what he said. And that's all I have to say about it.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

He (Gordon Duff) also implies that forcibly removing Obama, a Constitution-hating, on-the-down-low, crackhead Communist, is an attack on America, Mom, and apple pie. I swear these military people are worse than useless. Just look around at the condition of the country and tell me if they have fulfilled their oaths to protect the nation from all enemies foreign and domestic.
OsamaBinGoldstein posted on 2010-05-25 9:39:59 ET (2 images) Reply Trace

James Deffenbach  posted on  2010-08-23   11:44:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: James Deffenbach (#14)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-08-23   12:01:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: James Deffenbach (#14)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-08-23   12:02:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Eric Stratton (#16)

And hey, I don't mind a "theological" debate, it's what I love more than anything. It helps us learn and correct, right?

I don't think that is usually the case when both people are firmly convinced that their position is correct. It's why I don't debate about religion but I do (rarely and only occasionally) fill compelled to reply to what I believe has, or may have been, misunderstood. Who is correct? I wouldn't swear that I am because I don't swear to anything (the Lord himself said not to do that):

John 5:12 But above all things, my brethren, swear not, neither by heaven, neither by the earth, neither by any other oath: but let your yea be yea; and [your] nay, nay; lest ye fall into condemnation.

And of course you think you are correct, if not you would believe something else, perhaps what I do but maybe some other possibility. But in the end I will face my maker and will give account. And I have to do that based on my understanding, not someone else's.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

He (Gordon Duff) also implies that forcibly removing Obama, a Constitution-hating, on-the-down-low, crackhead Communist, is an attack on America, Mom, and apple pie. I swear these military people are worse than useless. Just look around at the condition of the country and tell me if they have fulfilled their oaths to protect the nation from all enemies foreign and domestic.
OsamaBinGoldstein posted on 2010-05-25 9:39:59 ET (2 images) Reply Trace

James Deffenbach  posted on  2010-08-23   12:39:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: James Deffenbach (#17)

It's why I don't debate about religion

Amen.

Cynicom  posted on  2010-08-23   12:41:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Turtle (#8) (Edited)

I got dibs on Benny Hinns mansion AND garage! You can have his goat porn.


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PSUSA  posted on  2010-08-23   12:48:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: James Deffenbach (#17)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-08-23   14:29:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Eric Stratton (#0)

whtt.org/index.php?news=2&id=3626

here is a related link for christian-oriented people who are not zionists.

a lot of people get the impression that christians in America support Israel. Some do of course and are extremely enthusiastic supporters of Israel willing to ignore all wrong done by Israel. However, most of the large denominations have passed resolutions criticizing Israel's treatment of the Palestinians. You'd be surprised, many christians do not support zionism at all. The self-described 'evangelical' people have tended to be strong supporters of Israel. But even many of them in recent years have changed. the National Council of Churches has passed a resolution criticizing Israel. Same with most of the protestant denominations and the catholics too.

I personally presume that zionist type money has taken over some bible colleges and created some big mega-churches. The media shows the zionist types as if they were the only christians when in reality most of the christians don't think that way.

Revelation 6:6 And I heard a voice in the midst of the four beasts say, A measure of wheat for a penny, and three measures of barley for a penny; and [see] thou hurt not the oil and the wine.

Red Jones  posted on  2010-08-23   18:23:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Red Jones (#21)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-08-23   19:08:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Eric Stratton (#22)

I think maybe it depends on your experiences, on what you see in your life. I used to go to a house church where the preacher spoke zionism and so did the guest preachers at that little house church. but I quit it and now I go to a main-line protestant denomination. I happen to know for sure that my denomination (Episcopalian) has passed a resolution criticizing Israel for its treatment of the palestinians. And I'm pretty sure the other main-line protestant churches have, I know some of them have. the national council of churches which is a big body representing many churches has done so too. and I read an article about the catholics doing it just in the last year.

what they do is pass resolutions not criticizing zionism, but speaking against Israel persecuting the Palestinians.

Perhaps it depends on the part of the country you're in. In the south it is amazing, the christians are so zionist.

you make a very good point that many of the christians who are not enthusiastic about Israel are simply not enthusiastic. While the zionist types are very enthusiastic. I am under the impression that a majority of the christian preachers quietly oppose Israel's oppression of the Palestinians. Perhaps some of them won't be more vocal for fear of offending some of their members.

It is troublesome that the zionist types will quote verses from the bible regarding the 'old covenant' and god promising that he will give this land to 'israel', etc. and stand by them no matter what, always, etc. but that these same christians are not even aware of other verses elsewhere that contradict their extreme pro-Israel views.

In the 1'st 5 books of the bible the old covenant and 'law' is all given, etc. Every single time there is a promise by god in those early books to give the jews this 'old covenant' promise there is always a verse that will say the promise to stand by them is conditional - always depending on whether or not they follow the law. it says of course that if they fall from the law, that god will desert them, but that if they sincerely come back to the law, then god will come back to them. They always ignore the 'conditional' aspect of this promise. if you read, you can always find these 'conditional' verses even if you have to read a couple of pages past where the promise part is made.

After those 1'st 5 books we come to jewish scripture that the jews reject and the christians accept. 35 out of 40 books of the old testament the jews reject, yet all of these 40 books were once considered holy by the jews. Once you read past the 1'st 5 books you see god threatening the jews if they don't follow the law, promising to punish them severely if they don't. You also see in Jeremiah (chapter 13 & 31) where the old covenant is specifically said to be broken. Its described as a divorce, the jews rejected god (according to jewish prophet Jeremiah) by not following the law, and so god divorced them.

then in the new testament jesus does a lot of angry words aimed at jewish hierarchy. He specifically tells jewish leaders that his father has taken away their blessings and that it will be given to others. Jesus also spends a lot of time talking about how people of all races, ethnic backgrounds and religions even will be welcomed into the 'kingdom of heaven'. These are things that knowledgeable jews may hate. because they know he's speaking against the old covenant. In Galatians 3:29 jesus himself says that the old covenant is no longer applicable.

Then, in the book of Revelation we have those 2 verses 2:9 and 3:9 that are very anti-jewish.

In my experience when you tell these things to the christian types they simply quote the early verses from the first 5 books and will not acknowledge what was once the normal christian view about the 'new covenant'.

Here's what christians should know about the jewish faith. Within a few hundred years prior to jesus the jews through out most jewish scripture. jewish scripture itself was saying that a rebellion against god had built up in the jews. After jesus came they wrote down the talmud. Some of the talmud was written before jesus, but the large majority after. Christians should know that the jewish faith as it is practiced uses scripture that is generally a lot newer than the christian scrtipture. Christian scripture was more or less complete within 200-300 years after Jesus. The final bits of the talmud did not come out until centuries after that. And the christians cling to all that old scripture in the old testament while the jews reject all but the first 5 books.

Revelation 6:6 And I heard a voice in the midst of the four beasts say, A measure of wheat for a penny, and three measures of barley for a penny; and [see] thou hurt not the oil and the wine.

Red Jones  posted on  2010-08-23   19:36:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-08-23   20:12:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: ALL (#0)

Well - to understand Judeo-Christian mind-set....

When they have sex out of marriage - they call it "sexual consent between the girl-boy friend".

When a Jew has sex with an unmarried woman - it's not called adultery.

When priest sexual abuse Nuns and minors - it's called an individual's sin.

When both OT & NT allows to have sex with a 3-year-old baby girl - they turn around and blame the Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) for marrying a 9-year-old. But ignore the fact that he had two young Jewish and one Christian wife too.

When the US has a gay-lesbian population of more than 30 million - they call it "freedom" to use one's body.

When a woman is raped every 90 seconds in the US - they call that Islam mis- treat women.

When Jews sell 5,000 White Christian women each year in Israel - they call it a case human-trafficking all over the world.

And the list goes on

Max  posted on  2010-08-23   23:43:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: PSUSA (#19)

I got dibs on Benny Hinns mansion AND garage! You can have his goat porn.

A friend of a woman I know died, and his parents didn't want to deal with it, telling us to clean his house out.

I got his big-screen TV, his DVD player, his tapes and CDs, his porn, his Dremel set, his shoes, his socks, speakers, stero system, a set of Wolgang Puck chef's knives, his coffee grinder, some books, and enough coffee beans to last six months.

So if those Rapture monkeys do get taken (which will be to Hell) there is a lot of stuff I plan on collecting.

“How many Sex and the City fans have funneled all their maternal instincts into their Chinese bulldog without even noticing their ovaries have expired?”

Turtle  posted on  2010-08-24   15:17:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Eric Stratton (#0)

Illuminist propaganda concerning the return of Jesus Christ occupies a central part in a vast structure of deception that will govern Christian minds when some Great Tribulation actually does occur.

The christian bible says that jesus will return. It is not 'illuminist propaganda'. The bible spends as much time (or maybe more) talking about 'end-times prophecy' as it does in talking about jesus. It is a primary theme. Even in the Old Testament. The zionist-types have come up with their own interpretations. but this does not mean that the end-times prophecies don't exist. and it surely doesn't mean that the christian bible is 'illuminist'.

Revelation 6:6 And I heard a voice in the midst of the four beasts say, A measure of wheat for a penny, and three measures of barley for a penny; and [see] thou hurt not the oil and the wine.

Red Jones  posted on  2010-08-24   15:48:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-08-24   20:04:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: Eric Stratton (#9)

I have no more burden to prove that bible lore is factual than I have to prove that holocaust lore is factual or Homer's Odyssey is factual or Koran lore is factual or Grimm's fairy tales are factual.

The burden of providing physical evidence of some claim is on the believer, not on the non-believer.

The burden of providing physical evidence is especially placed on the believer when claims are fantastical, supernatural, and ridiculous.

A good starting point for providing physical evidence would be the "greatest story ever told", biblical Exodus, as a series of supernatural events that defy nature and common sense.

Besides the obvious burden of evidence, the bible can easily be shown to be scientifically inaccurate. The link I previously provided makes it very easy to understand why this is true, easy enough for a credulous layman.

People really need to read something other than 20 plus century poetry for a non-primitive understanding of reality.

Googolplex  posted on  2010-08-26   23:37:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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