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Title: We Need A Revolution, Not A Movement
Source: [None]
URL Source: http://www.newswithviews.com/baldwin/baldwin612.htm
Published: Aug 26, 2010
Author: Chuck Baldwin
Post Date: 2010-08-26 20:49:44 by christine
Keywords: None
Views: 952
Comments: 69

The elections of 2008 (and the early elections of 2010) produced two significant phenomena: the "Ron Paul Revolution," and the "Tea Party Movement." And, mark it down: both of them will have profound effects upon the upcoming November elections--and upon the 2012 elections as well. Call them what you want, however, America doesn't need another movement; it needs a genuine revolution.

The Tea Party movement, while still a force with which to be contended, has already been diluted and compromised. The primary elections plainly reveal the reality of this fact. The high spots so far are the defeats of Arlen Specter in Pennsylvania and Bob Bennett in Utah. The low spots so far are the reelection of John McCain in Arizona and the election of Dan Coats in Indiana.

John McCain's election, in particular, demonstrates how many conservatives and "revolutionaries" still don't get it. If any State in the union should have an up-close-and-personal look at what we are up against, it would be the people of Arizona. After all, they are on the front lines in the fight of one of the most important battles currently being waged in our country: illegal immigration. And John McCain is one of the worst offenders in terms of facilitating and encouraging this illegal invasion. Yet the people of Arizona reelected McCain to the US Senate. (It would interesting to know how many illegal aliens voted for McCain, would it not?)

Then again, John McCain received the enthusiastic endorsement of former Alaska governor, Sarah Palin. This endorsement obviously brought McCain thousands of Tea Party votes that otherwise would have gone to his principal opponent, J.D. Hayworth. McCain is not the only Big-Government globalist neocon to receive Palin's endorsement. Many of Palin's endorsees are neocons; which leads to one of the biggest problems with any so-called conservative movement: allowing celebrity-type "conservatives" to become the de facto leaders and spokesmen for what should be a true grassroots, people-generated rebellion. Sarah Palin and Glenn Beck are the two biggest culprits in this regard.

Mark my words: Palin and Beck may see themselves as part of a conservative "movement," but they want nothing to do with an old-fashioned, honest-to-God, Patrick Henry-style revolution. In fact, they are doing everything in their power to keep such a revolution from taking place.

This does not mean that Palin and Beck do not contribute some good things to freedom's fight. They do. The problem is, for every good thing they contribute they counterbalance it by supporting establishment principals, such as John McCain and Newt Gingrich, and attacking non-establishment players and ideas, which serves only to keep the Big-Government power structure firmly ensconced in Washington, D.C.

Get real, folks, and start thinking for yourselves. Ask yourself why Fox News never (or hardly ever) invites non-establishment patriots to appear on their network. Why do you not see former Assistant Secretary of the Treasury Paul Craig Roberts on Fox News? Why do you not see former Georgia congressman and Presidential candidate Bob Barr on Fox News? Why do you not see former Minnesota governor Jesse Ventura on Fox News? Why do you not see former Director of the US Office of Economic Opportunity and Presidential candidate Howard Phillips on Fox News? Why do you not see Presidential candidate Chuck Baldwin on Fox News? The list is endless.

Fox News is not "fair and balanced." It is as controlled and manipulated as any other media news network. The only thing it balances is the other networks' infatuation with the Democrat Party, by promoting Republican candidates and ideas. What it does not do is educate and inform the American people with the truth as to what both major parties are doing to destroy our country. But remember, Fox News is owned by Keith Rupert Murdoch, the same man who helped finance Hillary Clinton's campaign for the US Senate, and who is as much of a globalist as anyone in Washington, D.C., or New York City.

As an aside, and speaking of Hillary Rodham, I predict that she will replace Vice President Joe Biden BEFORE the 2012 elections. I've said that in private for many weeks, and now say it in this column--remember, you heard it here. The Clinton-Bush Crime Syndicate (CBCS) needs Hillary in the White House badly, and Obama has readily accepted a subservient role in the criminal affairs of CBCS (for very profitable reasons, no doubt). And with the CBCS bosses pretty much running things at the White House (they don't worry about domestic or social issues, providing that these do not interfere with their international criminal activities), is it any wonder that Obama has already taken more vacations than most Presidents take during an entire term?

And it is the influence of globalists and neocons upon national and international politics that the likes of Sarah Palin and Glenn Beck simply do not get--or do not want to get. And because many Tea Partiers are so enamored with these two (and allow them to do much of their thinking for them), they remain clueless as well.

Ladies and gentlemen, America is in the throes of socialist and Marxist political upheaval. The curtain could fall at any time. The American people need to wake up to this truism: a "conservative" movement--even a conservative Tea Party movement--will not save us. The only thing that will save us is an old-fashioned State revolt.

Arizona had the opportunity to become a modern-day version of 1775 Massachusetts. But Arizona has probably forfeited that leadership role by 1) reelecting John McCain, and 2) being willing to allow federal courts to dictate law to a sovereign State. Instead of taking its case to the federal courts, Arizona should simply tell the federal government that it will enforce its own State laws (including the newly enacted anti-illegal immigration law) regardless of what any federal court says or doesn't say. At some point, that is exactly what some State (or group of states) in this union is going to have to do, or liberty will be forever lost.

As long as freedom lovers are content to remain satisfied with the status quo by allowing party politics and media celebrities to dominate their efforts, there will be no stopping this socialist avalanche that is crashing down upon us. The Tea Party movement of 2010 (if left free of Big-Government neocons) could certainly translate into positive developments this November; that is for sure. A revival of the "Ron Paul Revolution" in 2012 could also make a significant contribution, but it is going to take a State revolution to seal the deal. I, for one, am ready.

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#3. To: christine (#0)

What it does not do is educate and inform the American people with the truth as to what both major parties are doing to destroy our country.

Ol' Chuck nails it again. Glad I voted for him.

hondo68  posted on  2010-08-26   21:15:42 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: hondo68 (#3)

Chuck Baldwin is a smart man and (in my opinion anyway) a really good man.

James Deffenbach  posted on  2010-08-26   21:22:20 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: James Deffenbach (#5)

The cries for revolution become more numerous every day.

Two things are needed, they need to be louder, and for someone to step forward on the national scene, and take up the cause.

Cynicom  posted on  2010-08-26   21:28:46 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Cynicom (#6)

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Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-08-26   21:58:09 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Eric Stratton (#11)

Unfortunately 90% of them are from armchair warriors that don't want to risk anything.

I cannot agree with that.

ALL MOVEMENTS, REVOLUTIONS HAVE...ONE AND ONLY ONE LEADER.

The rest of us are followers, foot soldiers, but not armchair warriors.

History shows us, that for good or evil, any time a charismatic leader appears on the world stage, thousands of followers actually bring on the revolution.

Our revolution had one and only one leader when the time came to revolt, that was Washington. Can we imagine if all the founding Fathers were hell bent on leading?????

The rabble (armchair warriors) raise the cry, only one steps forward to lead. That is the way it is done.

Cynicom  posted on  2010-08-26   23:01:03 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Cynicom (#19)

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Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-08-26   23:18:08 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Eric Stratton (#23)

Meanwhile, what I've been telling them, that they can always get more money, they cannot always get more liberty, has completely fallen on deaf ears as they think I've lost it.

Agree 100 per cent.

We should consider ourselves at least one step ahead of the crowd, in that at least we recognize the danger.

However that does not qualify me as arrogant enough to believe I have the talent to step forward, and fall flat on my face. It will take someone that IS or WILL BE known on the national stage for some reason or other.

He or she would not have to be a politician. Just somehow have or get national notoriety.

The armchair warriors or followers are there, as demonstrated by 20,000,000 of them voting for Perot.

Cynicom  posted on  2010-08-26   23:31:48 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: Cynicom (#25)

We should consider ourselves at least one step ahead of the crowd, in that at least we recognize the danger.

However that does not qualify me as arrogant enough to believe I have the talent to step forward, and fall flat on my face. It will take someone that IS or WILL BE known on the national stage for some reason or other.

He or she would not have to be a politician. Just somehow have or get national notoriety.

The armchair warriors or followers are there, as demonstrated by 20,000,000 of them voting for Perot.

There is someone whofits all the requirements you have outlined above. That would be Jim Traficant. What our lousy government has done to him has made him very angry. He has a score to settle with cowards and whores, as he calls them in WDC.

Somehow, we need to recruit him as a leader. He has always been a champion of the people. If only there was a thread started on here(4um)where our replys could be sent to Jim encouraging him to lead such a revolution, I beleive he would respond favorably. Right now he is in a battle with the Ohio elections board to get on the ballot as an independent. Would anyone care to start such a thread? He already knows how close we are to completely losing our country to the enemies from within. There are a few men out there that have what it takes. I honestly believe Jim Traficant is near the top if a list was made of those posessing the criteria.

Those who can't see we are running out of time to turn things around, those who are afraid they might get hurt, or those that think things are rosy need not join in. I am presently trying to contact Jim to invite him to join us on Freedom4um. I haven't been successful in contacting him personally at this time. We can copy the entire thread and the replys and send them to him via registered mail with a receipt that will let us know he personally received the thread. Those of you who don't want to join in, or who think this isn't a reasonable undertaking don't need to get involved. Those of you who realize how perilously close to losing our country and freedoms,what say you?

LACUMO  posted on  2010-08-27   13:26:26 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: LACUMO, Christine (#54)

Perhaps Christine might alter the title of this one, mentioning Traficant and keep it going?????

Cynicom  posted on  2010-08-27   13:39:37 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: Cynicom, christine, All (#56)

Perhaps Christine might alter the title of this one, mentioning Traficant and keep it going?????

That would be ok, I nominate you to make the last reply on iy as an invite to Jim, not only to join us on this thread, but to come out with a comittment to lead us out of the current situation we are in. You do have a gift of saying what needs to be said in a few short words.

LACUMO  posted on  2010-08-27   14:44:40 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: LACUMO, cristine (#57)

Like it or not, he also has the "gift" of being perceived by even normal people as being an absolute fruitcake. Whether he is or isn't, the fact remains that mainstream and Main Street views of him are less than favorable. Until he can raise his image to a level of respectability, his presence as a "leader" would only serve to denigrate and bring down a true movement towards liberty.

I'm not speaking against the man, I'm telling you the perception most have of him. If he took a "leadership" position nationally, he'd be ignored by most everybody at *best*, ridiculed and brought to his knees *most likely*.

Respectability is key. Not sainthood, no, but it does help to not be preconceived as a raving loon who is also a felon.

That's just the way the ball bounces. Recruiting him, would be a big, big mistake. He'd be forced to spend 99.9% of his time trying to shake off that image, on national television and in the media, and almost no time advancing any discernible message. His very presence would immediately discredit any organization he claimed to represent.

And that's all she wrote, the pencil broke.

This is constructive criticism, not an attack. Please try to discuss this, if you're inclined, in a manner that does not invoke ad hominem. Thanks.

SonOfLiberty  posted on  2010-08-27   15:04:25 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: SonOfLiberty (#58)

Like it or not, he also has the "gift" of being perceived by even normal people as being an absolute fruitcake.

I'd pay to see you tell Jim Traficant that to his face.That may be what some think of him. So what? He also spent 7 years in the pokey after being convicted by a kangaroo court. So what?

Apparently you didn't read my thoughts very well. Go back and re-read it again. I stated "Those of you who don't want to join in, or who think this isn't a reasonable undertaking don't need to get involved." Just what we need, a negative moron on this thread.

We are think posditive here. Why don't you go over to LP and spew your venom. We are grasping straws trying to save this country.

This is meant for you personally. Fools names and fools faces shouldn't be seen in public places.

LACUMO  posted on  2010-08-27   16:43:02 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: LACUMO, SonofLiberty (#60)

Like it or not, he also has the "gift" of being perceived by even normal people as being an absolute fruitcake. Whether he is or isn't, the fact remains that mainstream and Main Street views of him are less than favorable. Until he can raise his image to a level of respectability, his presence as a "leader" would only serve to denigrate and bring down a true movement towards liberty.

I'm not speaking against the man,

LAC, as SoL said, he is not speaking against the man, but rather explaining that this is how Traficant is viewed by mainstream. Heck, the same has been said of Ron Paul. As you know, speak out against or fight the two Is (Israel and IRS) and this is the price one pays.

christine  posted on  2010-08-27   17:08:37 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: christine, Lacumo (#62)

LAC, as SoL said, he is not speaking against the man, but rather explaining that this is how Traficant is viewed by mainstream.

I disagree with that.

Cynicom  posted on  2010-08-27   17:53:54 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#68. To: Cynicom (#63) (Edited)

I disagree with that.

Of course you do. Once somebody doesn't kowtow to your assumed "wisdom", once somebody figures you out, you have to disregard truth and go for the throat at all costs. It's classic narcissism. Quite common.

If you had a shred of dignity, you'd see an ally where there was an ally, and a foe where there was a foe. Prior to your slandering me a few months ago, there was usually 100% agreement on philosophical topics. Neither my views nor expressions have changed, yet now you go for the cheap shot every time. If you had half the "wisdom" one your age could claim, you'd understand that one shouldn't attack one's allies.

SonOfLiberty  posted on  2010-08-29   22:40:46 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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