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Title: Killtown: Why Use Real Planes?
Source: YouTube
URL Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wpkqomUc7Xs&feature=related
Published: Jun 5, 2008
Author: Posted by WelcomeToKilltown
Post Date: 2010-09-01 05:34:12 by GreyLmist
Ping List: *9-11*     Subscribe to *9-11*
Keywords: 9/11, CGI, No Planes
Views: 2225
Comments: 37


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WelcomeToKilltown | June 05, 2008

The military talked about using TV fakery since 1995. Digitally altering live TV broadcasts has been feasible since 1998. Since 2000, the media has been warning the public about the news and military using TV fakery.

See also:

"Why They Didn't Use Planes To Hit The WTC"
http://killtown.blogspot.com/2007/05/...

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Excerpt from the recommended article linked above, "Why They Didn't Use Planes To Hit The WTC": they would still run the risk of not being able to pull the Twin Towers and WTC 7 if any of the two planes didn't crash the exact way they needed them to crash (i.e. penetrate all the way through so they blow up in the insides of both buildings) and that is something the perps could not afford to chance since collapsing the WTC 1, 2, and 7 was arguably the cornerstones of their diabolical plan.

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FAQ

Comment at YouTube site and reply:

agat0r
1 year ago

here's my question: After the first tower was struck, didn't we have about a billion video recorders turned onŒ79; to record the second plane striking the building? They can't ALL BE FAKES, can they?

WelcomeToKilltown
1 year ago

We've only found about 44 videos of the 2nd hit. Far cryŒ79; from a 'billion.'

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#2. To: GreyLmist (#0)

The military talked about using TV fakery since 1995. Digitally altering live TV broadcasts has been feasible since 1998. Since 2000, the media has been warning the public about the news and military using TV fakery.

I completely agree with this statement....after all Project Bluebeam is a reality.

But I just don't believe that the technology is advenced enough at this point to be able to fool the 1000's of eyewitnesses.

Bill D Berger  posted on  2010-09-01   8:18:00 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: All (#2)

Hi everybody. Matt here. First post, a link to all the plane videos:

http://www.911conspiracy.tv/2nd_hit.html

I put this site together as an investigation into TV fakery.

I even tried to explain the engine debris with a cannon theory:

http://s1.zetaboards.com/pumpitout/topic/1930887/1

Hope that helps.

911conspiracyTV  posted on  2010-09-01   8:47:35 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#5. To: 911conspiracyTV (#3)

hi matt, welcome. your site has been showing a message that the bandwidth was exceeded for the past 3 days. glad to see it's back up. i'm looking forward to your participation here.

christine  posted on  2010-09-01 10:05:43 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: 911conspiracyTV (#3)

Welcome.

wudidiz  posted on  2010-09-01 10:17:52 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: 911conspiracyTV (#3)

btw, nice job on the video compilations.

christine  posted on  2010-09-01 10:35:44 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: 911conspiracyTV (#3)

I put this site together as an investigation into TV fakery.

Welcome, Baghdad_Bob! We are going to have a lot of fun!

buckeroo  posted on  2010-09-01 11:55:26 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-09-01 12:00:45 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: 911conspiracyTV (#3)

Hi Matt. Welcome.

James Deffenbach  posted on  2010-09-02 17:44:33 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: 911conspiracyTV (#3) (Edited)

Hi everybody. Matt here. First post, a link to all the plane videos:

http://www.911conspiracy.tv/2nd_ hit.html

I put this site together as an investigation into TV fakery.

I even tried to explain the engine debris with a cannon theory:

http://s1.zetaboards.c om/pumpitout/topic/1930887/1

Hope that helps.

Hello, Matt. Thanks for joining us here. :) Greatly helpful site you put together and interesting cannon theory. I activated the links so they are easier for readers to access. I especially appreciated your research on the "Smoke & Mirrors" video at your site, which wasn't aired on 9/11 or near that date but seems to have been created for a more dark effect -- maybe to "sell" the Iraq War. Edit to reword: I'm not clear if the 2003 PBS documentary, "New York Center of the World", that it was in ever appeared on Public or national TV outside of Detroit or it didn't. Would like to hear more on that if there's anything else you've learned about it.

9/11 TV Fakery: Smoke & Mirrors (short version) - 4 min.
http://www.youtube.com/watch? v=DkzfKRe0gbc

Elpiper | June 02, 2008

A shorter version of my 10-minute video "Smoke & Mirrors" (watch?v=SS0dNaseISM) exposing the method used by the media to fake the plume of smoke seen on some of the 9/11 footage.

The particular clip analyzed in this video was found on the 9/11 website terrorize.dk (now gone) back in early 2004 and has not been altered by the video-maker in any way.

9/11 TV Fakery: Smoke & Mirrors - long version, 10 min.
http://www.youtube.com/watch? v=SS0dNaseISM

Elpiper | May 31, 2008

Exposing the method used by the media to fake the plume of smoke seen on some of the 9/11 footage.

The particular clip analyzed in this video was found on the 9/11 website terrorize.dk (now gone) back in early 2004 and has not been altered by the video-maker in any way.

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911CTV Analysis @ YouTube:

RE: 9/11 TV Fakery Smoke and Mirrors by elpiper
http://www.youtube.com/watch? v=YVAzASfZmiU

911CTV | March 25, 2009

The smoke is real... The editing was done long after 9/11, people! NOT 9/11 TV FAKERY, but video fakery... It was done to get a clip of the 2nd plane for a documentary....

The Detroit Public TV shot (which comes from the 2003 PBS documentary "New York Center of the World") was a crop of the CBS 9:22 am shot. The terrorize.dk mirrored smoke fake is the same crop, its left edge matching with the line in the smoke where the repeating smoke starts and the picture was widened. Yet this crop was from that same angle shown 17 minutes earlier on CBS... when the last part of the plane approach is shown.

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Excerpt from analysis @ http://www.911conspiracy.tv/2nd_hit.html#CBS-3, for: 8. CBS-3

See "RE: 9/11 TV Fakery: Smoke & Mirrors by Elpiper" for a study of a similar fake of unknown origin, also made available at terrorize.dk (see 3rd photo at left). These two examples of video editing are not examples of a conspiracy within the mass media - "9/11 TV fakery" - because the video wasn't part of a TV broadcast until the PBS documentary aired 2 years later.

The camera location: General Motors Building, aka FAO Schwartz, E 58th St at Madison Ave... 215 meters tall on ground elevated at 48 feet above sea level Lat 40.763595 Lon -73.972781 (Thanks, YougeneDebs)

GreyLmist  posted on  2010-09-02 18:41:18 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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