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Title: Aftermath: Ruby Ridge (Shatner interviews Sara Weaver (and Randy makes a few short appearances) Excellent Show
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Published: Sep 3, 2010
Author: William Shatner
Post Date: 2010-09-03 01:45:29 by christine
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#7. To: christine (#0)

I watched the congressional hearings when they happened on S-SPAN. They had a man testify whose face and voice were masked and he described the numerous attempts to entrap Weaver, and a meeting where all present were undercover agents of a different agency. FBI,ATF,US Marshall, etc. They were there to catch "bad guys" and nobody knew everyone else was also an undercover agent. A real farce.

octavia  posted on  2010-09-03   16:02:11 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

thanks for that explanation.

I read about Randy Weaver's entrapment. The undercover agent over a period of weeks repeatedly tried to get Randy to saw off a shotgun before selling it. Finally Weaver cut the shotgun and sold it, thus breaking the law. He was found 'not guilty' in a court of law for that. But this was the governent's excuse for killing 2 people and badly wounding a 3'rd - all 3 who were not Randy Weaver.

They gave him a trial date for selling the modified shotgun. He hired an attorney to represent him. They moved the trial date up and neglected to tell Randy Weaver that they'd done this. Weaver missed his trial date. The government sent an army of 80 men to his land. These men all had body armor and automatic weapons. They were instructed to shoot and kill any adult male on his land that carried a gun. The government knew it was normal practice for many people who lived in that area to carry guns as it was an isolated spot with grizzly bears. The government's soldiers shot and killed Weaver's 14-year old son on sight simply because he carried a gun. They did not even identify themselves before shooting. Then they shot and killed Weaver's wife.

all of this info was contained in the government's own investigation of the event.

Red Jones  posted on  2010-09-03   16:40:23 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Someone from fed.gov said that their only mistake was not killing everyone immediately.

Lod  posted on  2010-09-03   16:52:14 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

#11. To: Lod (#10)

and if you even say the things we've said on this thread in public in our country, there will be many who will feel strongly that you must be persecuted against. In reality an awful lot of our people are just like NAZIs. as long as evil carries the label 'US government' they love evil.

Red Jones  posted on  2010-09-03 17:01:08 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

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