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Title: Judge Overturns Nebraska Ban On Flag Mutilation, Siding With Westboro Church's Right To Protest Military Funerals
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URL Source: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/ ... tilation-lawsuit_n_704305.html
Published: Sep 3, 2010
Author: TIMBERLY ROSS
Post Date: 2010-09-03 10:57:03 by Ada
Keywords: None
Views: 630
Comments: 41

OMAHA, Neb. — A federal judge overturned Nebraska's ban on flag mutilation Thursday, clearing the way for Kansas church protesters to continue trampling on the U.S. flag when they protest at military funerals.

The ruling from U.S. District Judge Richard Kopf said the law can't be applied as long as Megan Phelps-Roper and fellow members of the Westboro Baptist Church "otherwise act peacefully while desecrating the American or Nebraska flag during their religiously motivated protests."

It was unclear whether the ruling applied only to the church members or to everyone in Nebraska. An earlier temporary block of the law applied only to Phelps-Roper.

The judge declined to explain the intent of his ruling when reached by The Associated Press.

A message left Thursday with the Nebraska attorney general's office wasn't immediately returned.

Attorney General Jon Bruning has previously said the flag-protection law passed in 1977 is not consistent with later U.S. Supreme Court rulings that labeled flag desecration a form of protected speech.

Bruning has said he wouldn't fight to save the Nebraska law. If he chooses not to appeal, Kopf's decision would close the case.

Members of the Topeka, Kan., church protest at soldier funerals around the country because they believe U.S. troop deaths are punishment for the nation's tolerance of homosexuality. Group members often trample on the U.S. flag, wear it and display it upside-down as part of their protests.

In July, Phelps-Roper filed the federal lawsuit challenging the constitutionality of Nebraska's flag law, saying it infringed on her right to free speech. The law barred intentionally "casting contempt or ridicule" upon a U.S. or Nebraska flag by mutilating, defacing or burning it or by trampling on it.

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#24. To: Ada (#0)

isn't this the same church leader who had himself and his members running around saying 'god hates fags' and doing interviews all over the country repeating that slogan too?

we should presume that this church leader is an undercover 'asset' of somebody in our intelligence community. he's sewing confusion and discord. he's generating opposition to his alleged anti-war cause. He's causing people to dislike christianity.

having said that, I happen to think that homosexuality is wrong, I think it is against god and nature, I think it harms people who participate in it. But I don't agree with expressing malice towards others like this.

Red Jones  posted on  2010-09-03   14:13:38 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Red Jones (#24)

isn't this the same church leader who had himself and his members running around saying 'god hates fags' and doing interviews all over the country repeating that slogan too?

One and the same. The only other thing I know about him is that he was an Algore delegate at a past Democrat convention.

Whether he and his group are as they present themselves isn't the point. The question is defense of the First Amendment.

Ada  posted on  2010-09-03   19:57:41 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Ada (#30)

The question is defense of the First Amendment

bingo. i guess most here agree with congress who banned phelps groups protest literally because it was 'offensive' & 'fringe'. it's amazing what people will fall for. also, faggotry & love of it (embracing abominable evil) has been infesting society for so many generations that even Christians can't seem to see evil when its there. i'm not offended by the fact that unrepentant sinners go to hell. That's simple theological truth. yet it greatly bothers many in society. this is one of the real reasons people are offended by the likes of phelps. the truth hurts.

Artisan  posted on  2010-09-04   16:41:16 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: Artisan, 4 (#31)

Like the ground-zero mosque, just because something is lawful, does not mean that it's in good taste or is the proper thing to do.

Lod  posted on  2010-09-04   16:53:05 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: Lod (#33)

i don't know if this phelps family are some sort of agent provocateurs etc & everyone i know insists that their tactics are wrong. however, i read their actual arguments at length on their website godhatesfags.com years ago. im not unfamiliar with a fire & brimstone background. i understand it. if Christians are called to admonish the sinner, why is it bad to do so? one could argue that phelps & his ilk actually care more for the unrepentant sinner (in this case, fags) & concern for their eternal life than the majority who coddle, embrace, & promote the sin. i know that homosexuality is not the only sin out there. we're all sinners. i'm just saying that i've read their arguements & ran into these people personally & they are not what they are presented by the mainstream media. i hate to plug this again but watch the 7 min. vid westboro baptist on 9/11 truth i linked to. they're perfectly reasonable & normal folks. imo

Artisan  posted on  2010-09-04   17:08:47 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: Artisan (#34)

I'm not arguing with their beliefs.

It's just unbelievably poor taste and thoughtlessness for them to have their sign spectacle when a family is burying a father, brother, son, or mother or daughter, to have to pass through a gauntlet like that.

Their motives may be good, but their methods are miserable.

imo

Lod  posted on  2010-09-04   17:27:32 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: Lod (#36)

but that returns us to the aspect of this which psusa were discussing earlier. if the war is fraudulent & evil, & killing a million iraqis is evil, & we oppose it, whotf precisely is carrying out all this alleged evil? its not obama & bush!! its the compliant servant soldiers, who are endlessly revered, which only plays into the fraud backdrop of this whole empirical charade. this is why it don't bother me if 'our troops' aren't revered with kid gloves.

Artisan  posted on  2010-09-04   17:45:18 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: Artisan (#39)

I said nothing about the military trappings that go with these deaths.

I'm talking about the loss that the family is going through.

Off for a while.

Keep it going.

Lod  posted on  2010-09-04   17:55:13 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: Lod (#40)

the loss that the family

i understand, but their family member was not a hero, but rather was used & disgarded. they owe it to their lost to not support further losses. since their loved one played a part in the war, they need to deal with the fallout & critics of that. they need to grow up & deal w/ it. since they're dumb enough to believe their dead relative 'died protecting our freedoms', they should respect the freedoms of the kooks on the corner with signs.

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