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Title: Come to no-planer heaven with me....
Source: wah.... the Internet of course ;-)
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Published: Sep 3, 2010
Author: moi
Post Date: 2010-09-03 20:59:35 by wudidiz
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Keywords: Look at, the facts, chicken, shit
Views: 1362
Comments: 87

I'm a no-planer now. It's easy and it's simple. You can do it too. Just look at the evidence.

Do you have any idea what this does to an ego like mine?

It's scary.

Think about it....

No planes hit any of the WTC. Either the videos were faked or (shudder) they're holograms.

WTF does that mean then?

What did hit them then? If anything?

So I have once again successfully distanced myself from some of my associates and society as a whole.

Great. Just what I needed. /s

It's lonely here. People look at you like, "Okey-dokey, dude"

Trust me, don't just lay that on someone without warming them up somehow first.

Introduce yourself or something.

On the upside, it's like graduating to the next level. Like being promoted.

To master kook.

lol

No, but seriously it's where the great minds must go. Lest they dwindle and stagnate and spin their tires in the lower plane realm.

The glorious truth beckons ye. It calls your name like a maid in the mist.

Like an angel when your sleeping it summons your higher self to transcend the 3d world and join us, the intellectual elite...

So anyway, yeah..... no planes. It's a fact.

Put that in your pipe and smoke it.


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#15. To: wudidiz (#0)

And a mighty fine editorial it was, too! :)

Kinda reminds me of that old Talking Heads song, "Once in a Lifetime" that goes, "How did I get here?" lol

On a high-hote, I saw that a No Planes poster won Best Answer recently at Yahoo! Answers, with close to 50% of the votes.

I don't know why there is hostility and division among some 9/11 TV Fakery and No Planes researchers. Am trying to go by the merits of the work rather than the politics of the contributers. Other than a couple of abrasive words, I think the video below is a helpful intro to the No Planes perspective. This is part of the description about it at LiveVideo.com, which has some buffering problems on my computer and can't be posted here without running automatically so will post the YouTube version for it instead:

the rabbit hole: an explanation of the basics of no plane theory, this is a bare bones examination, for people who have no idea how people could get to this theory.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gkvC1SCsIcY

GreyLmist  posted on  2010-09-03   23:16:04 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: GreyLmist, wudidiz, PSUSA (#15)

this video is compelling. it's hard to believe that a plane, upon impact, would sail smoothly straight through the building like that. it does seem to defy the laws of physics. for sure, i don't believe it was a 757 (where's da plane, where's da plane) that crashed into the pentagon, so who knows what really happened with the towers. just sayin'.

christine  posted on  2010-09-04   11:31:44 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: christine (#21) (Edited)

this video is compelling. it's hard to believe that a plane, upon impact, would sail smoothly straight through the building like that. it does seem to defy the laws of physics. for sure, i don't believe it was a 757 (where's da plane, where's da plane) that crashed into the pentagon, so who knows what really happened with the towers. just sayin'.

Thanks for sayin' and also for the apfn info. Here's a link to a radio interview of Killtown on the 'Final Round' show - Discussing No-Planes @ WTC theory
48:56 - 1 year ago
Aired: January 16, 2009 Host: 'SoulReal' (This is an edited version. The original show was 2+ hours.)

GreyLmist  posted on  2010-09-07   18:00:35 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: Rickyj (#38)

Ricky, listen to Killtown on the Final Round show, linked in Grey's post and let me know what you think.

christine  posted on  2010-09-08   1:19:30 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: christine (#41)

OK, I found some time, listened to the whole show. :)

Killtown's argument is good, but there are two very big problems with his argument of no planes hitting the towers and all the videos of the planes hitting the towers being faked.

1st big problem:
After the first plane hit WTC 1 there were thousands of NYC residents, workers, and tourists, who always have cameras with them, taking photographs and recording videos of WTC 1 burning from all directions surrounding the towers. Surely someone somewhere would have a shot of the side of WTC 2 exploding with nothing hitting it if no plane hit it. But no one has ever posted such a video on the Internet. It would be virtually impossible for the perpetrators of 9/11 to control ALL the videos that would be taken that day. Some would have made their way into the public domain and then there would be proof that they faked the planes hitting the buildings. They obviously couldn't take that kind of risk so why not just use a real military plane remote controlled with laser guided missile technology to do the job? Why try to make something harder than it needs to be? No reason for it. They had to use real planes or they risked the very real threat of being found out to be liars even before the first Tower collapsed.

2nd big problem:
If they were going to fake the videos of planes hitting the towers to make sure there were no mistakes, then why did they not also fake the videos of the collapses of both the towers and WTC 7 to make it appear they were not controlled demolitions? Most see the video of the collapse of WTC 7 as the smoking gun of 9/11, myself included, so why did they not fake that video too if they wanted to get away with 9/11? It makes no sense that they would risk faking some of the videos which could show them all to be liars and not fake the videos which also show them to be responsible for 9/11 through basic physics, which unfortunately most Americans lack knowledge of.

RickyJ  posted on  2010-09-08   2:57:33 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: RickyJ (#56)

1st big problem: After the first plane hit WTC 1 there were thousands of NYC residents, workers, and tourists, who always have cameras with them, taking photographs and recording videos of WTC 1 burning from all directions surrounding the towers. Surely someone somewhere would have a shot of the side of WTC 2 exploding with nothing hitting it if no plane hit it. But no one has ever posted such a video on the Internet.

The solution to problem one is that you are incorrect. Even the news media has shots of the building blowing up with no plane impact. Something else to consider is your theory of thousands of witnesses who always have their cameras with them. This was 2001 not 2010. People still used pagers back then. And not everyone had a camera in their cell phone. Even so youtube had not been invented yet.

Sooo fast forward to where we are today and we have dozens of videos and stills not hundreds , not thousands, but only dozens.

The majority of which are from the MSM.

The answer to problem 2 is deflection. In a conspiracy this big this long in the making (Remember the first time the tried this they failed because of the human component back in 93) this massive one makes plans to throw out false leads and dead end clues. The people will eventually figure things out. Their is no stopping that. One can only stall. Hence the point of the fake clues.

Their may of also been only a limited time frame... With in the first hour the two buildings of the WTC where done and over. Quick in and out. By mid afternoon the world was watching NY some converging upon. That many eyes on the scene of the incident and things get stickier. The trump card that worked at 9 in the morning doesn't work as well at 5 in the afternoon because of the massive build up of attention... Solution? Fuck it go ahead with the plan as scheduled and use the fuck up as a false lead.

titorite  posted on  2010-09-08   7:30:31 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: titorite, RickyJ (#61) (Edited)

Excellent post, titorite.

Ricky, I've already posted info for you from the September Clues site on visual control explaining that they only had to jam electronic signals for a few minutes between the supposed plane strikes. That is not new technology -- more like SOP in a warzone and our Military isn't the only one that has that capability. Ref: signals jamming of the USS Liberty in 1967. You should at least ask yourself why the newsclips are from such a long distance until well after the alleged 2nd plane strike. Many supposed witnesses and "amateur photographers" are linked to the media, "visual arts", and the government. Some alleged witnesses could be nothing more than characters fabricated by the press in print. Here is yet another video for you showing some info about several "filmers/witnesses" towards the end at about the 04:30 mark:

2001 a fake odyssey
06:18 - 2 years ago
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=- 415424133034814785&hl=en&emb=1

GreyLmist  posted on  2010-09-08   9:27:20 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#69. To: GreyLmist (#63)

You think this video is fake too?

RickyJ  posted on  2010-09-09   3:12:37 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#78. To: RickyJ, 911conspiracy.tv (#69)

You think this video is fake too?

Yes. It is listed at 911conspiracy.tv, #27:

Luis Alonso's footage first aired September 22, 2001 on MSNBC Investigates - 24 Hours at Ground Zero (download German mpeg or see English version). Technically, it's not in THE "TV archive." The shot of "Flight 175" also appeared on National Geographic's 2005 documentary "Inside 9/11, Pt.2 - Zero Hour" and in BBC's 2007 "Conspiracy Files" at 11:00 (see these mainstream 9/11 documentaries here at 911conspiracy.tv).

The angle was previously called "Fanta Devs" for the graffiti seen on the wall across the street from the camera. This explains the title of YougeneDebs's investigation of the camera location, which questions Alonso's story as broadcast by MSNBC. Was Alonso really the camera operator? (Coordinates according to Achimspok: 40deg 43min 17.69sec N, 73deg 59min 35.38sec W, 30m elevation) [end excerpt]

FANTA'DEVS (corrected) YougeneDebs | July 01, 2008
http://www.youtube.com/watch? v=DMVdh8owj6w

Excerpt from video description note: An investigation into the camera positions used to shoot Fanta'Devs, aka "Miracle Zoom" at 911hoax, aka Luis Alonzo, aka Fanta'Dues

Compare angle to a similar one by Ronald Pordy at 911conspiracy.tv, #24:

Excerpt: an early airing was discovered— CNN 9/13 at 2:49 am. [end excerpt]

That video can be seen at the CNN link and is not live footage either. It starts at the point of "fly in and impact". It only spans a few seconds in that film but there are problems with a white building that seems to pop into the video near the end of those frames and with the trajectory of the plane image when compared to other examples like the "divebomber" angle.

GreyLmist  posted on  2010-09-10   2:32:56 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#79. To: GreyLmist (#78)

Who shot it and where it was shot from is not really relevant. The video looks legit to me. Crystal clear, sound is perfect, and it shows the plane hitting. If you think this is not real, then prove it with some video facts (e.g. artifacts from inserting plane animation into the scene), not who shot it, or where it was shot from, because that, I don't really care about.

RickyJ  posted on  2010-09-10   2:51:35 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#82. To: RickyJ (#79) (Edited)

Who shot it and where it was shot from is not really relevant. The video looks legit to me. Crystal clear, sound is perfect, and it shows the plane hitting. If you think this is not real, then prove it with some video facts (e.g. artifacts from inserting plane animation into the scene), not who shot it, or where it was shot from, because that, I don't really care about.

Just about every video seems to look legit to you, Ricky. In the first place, the video you posted oddly spends almost 10 sec. looking at nothing but the undamaged part of WTC 1. It's aka "Miracle Zoom" [#19 at 911hoax.com] because of when and how fast it zooms incredibly to film the supposed incoming plane. Then, in case you didn't notice, it is nothing more than yet another video where the plane disappears behind a building and an explosion is seen that is only presumed to have been from a real plane strike. [Edit to add: Additionally, the smoke from WTC 1 moving towards the left of the forceful and smokey fireball is scarcely displaced at all by it and only slightly above it.] If all of that and the questionable origins of the film are still not enough to convince you it's not legit, think about this and pick the flightpath that suits you most as authentic for debates:

Flight 175 Flightpath: There's more than one [coarse language warning at end]
http://www.youtube.com/watch? v=x3NOMCp7oos&feature=related

GreyLmist  posted on  2010-09-10   4:16:28 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#83. To: All, GreyLmist (#82)

More coarse language warning:

wudidiz  posted on  2010-09-10 04:31:15 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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