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Title: Seeking ideas to Jump Start Anti-War Movement
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Published: Sep 5, 2010
Author: Undocumented
Post Date: 2010-09-05 16:38:04 by Undocumented
Keywords: Neocon, Bush, Obama, Israel
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As most of you are aware events in America are continuing to deteriorate. There have been attempts to fight back including the Ron Paul movement, Tea Parties and activism against illegal immigration. All noble efforts. But the problem is two fold. One is most Americans have become meek and apathetic which leaves few to fight. The other is the neocon globalist clan of lunatics will never response to these tactics. One of the great political mysteries is the apathy of the anti-war movement. More so now under Obama but barely a whisper under Bush. I think most of the folks here understand why this is and who funded the peace movements in the past. In any case, we can understand that the war is by far the most important issue for the enemies of America. Why continue to try and reason with these people about non war issues when they could care less if we live or die. And the only way these issues will be addressed if millions of Americans ask for redress in a public and forceful manner. The sheeple are under a spell of propaganda. Add the fact that they will attack anyone who dares to question issues such as immigration, Ron Paul, outsourcing, the FED and other economic issues. But there is an Achilles heel. The endless wars for Israel and other entities supported either by design or useful idiots. The hypocrisy is endless of protecting one nation while sucking the life blood out of another. One cannot fight monsters by waving the Constitution. The correct response is to, pardon my French, kick them in the fucking balls over and over. And a viable anti-war movement could be the answer. The question is what methods to use and how to inspire the meek and apathetic. I've been thinking about this for awhile and will offer some ideas. 1. The traditional protest. There seems to be a taboo lately about organized protest against the war. Would anyone show up? Would they be afraid to show? Seems to me that this would already be happening if one could gather a sizable protest group. Perhaps with inspiration. 2.) The use of fliers, email and telephone calls to enemies and friends expressing dissent against the war. That has not worked in the recent past with other issues. 3.) Asymmetrical protesting. This would involve a very direct political attack using unconventional methods. In the past, there were attempts such as http://freewayblogger.com but is was just focused on Bush if you take a look. And you will notice he and many others stopped blogging after Bush left office. Last time I checked the war is still going on. In other words, being anti-Bush or now anti-Obama is not the answer. Being more pro-American is what's needed. And to name names, nations and political gangsters. They would including the DNC, RNC, Israel and the Jewish lobby, Corporations involved in the war effort, radio personalities, politicians and other promoting the war. Adding details asking how Americans are being helped by this war while the border is open, economic doom lurks nearby and other issues. A.) Earlier today I watch a video by Nena called "99(RED) Luftballoons". http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jQYQTFudrqc And anti-war song from the early 80's. About children's balloons being let go causing tension or "accident" of war during the cold war. Nena was located in then West Germany. Got me thinking of a possible anti-war protest placing Red balloons with '99' on them in public places including in front of neocon establishments. But mostly on college campuses or nearby. This idea might be risque but it does give the idea of using balloons otherwise. A large balloon, fill it up and write the message. Easier than signs and more glaring. Being mindful that the placement of the balloon is what is important. B.) Some kind of ribbon awareness. All colors are of course taken so one would need to create some kind of mult-colored ribbon. C.) Traditional protest banners placed near highways or neocon entities. One problem is that these signs are taken down quickly but one could use the balloons again. Attach sufficient balloons to a poster let it get suck under ledge or tree above reach. Just some of the ideas running around in my head.
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#1. To: Undocumented (#0)
The highway signs would give us more bang for our buck,the money would have to flow to keep them up,of course..but the balloons would be a seriously easy target..a bang for the balloon and its down. If I saw one of the enemies balloons floating over my farm I would defend my airspace with all due diligence :)
Why not use the Internet to muster up support for large rallies across the nation? Ensure that Indie media is on the scene and ignore the MSM.
"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations
Agreed. However, try raising money from 4um denizens for such an effort. Ask for money and their hearing goes south.
Take young white rednecks to NYC. Give 'em a good tour. Ask 'em if maybe the terrorists didn't do us a favor.
“Ask any Indian nation how it preserves itself. It isn’t by letting anyone and everyone claim to be Indian. There are exceptions, but they are not the rule.” -- Eric Holder
I usually tell people that the Bilderbergers want America to lose WW III so we can become slaves to the NWO will not have the power to ask for the return of the tens of trillions the bankers and the Zionists have stolen.
The Truth of 911 Shall Set You Free From The Lie
Ask for money and their hearing goes south. I would add that its not indigenous to this 4um,and money usually trumps good intentions until we get bit in the ass.I felt teeth on 9/11/01. Ron Paul crushed me,as he did many.I know its not easy to even think against the nwo machine,so I am on the mend. Yes,it is not easy dealing with the satanic and soon it will,most assuredly, be unhealthy.I would be very carefull with planned events,but the highway signs would be a major thorn in their sides.A lot of us have land,including myself,near a major highway.I could easily put it up and swear i was innocent,the money and instructions for the billboard was dropped from a passing balloon...ahem..moving on.Yes,imo the internet,highway signs,bumper stickers and the occasional bar room rant,hopefully,eventually people will blink their eyes and see the true evil at our doorstep
Two of us floated the idea and received one offer of a donation.. Americans have become a society of talkers.
dov zackheim fueled his radio controlled drone research by a few of those trillions...how fortuitious the need for such technology was needed to complete PNAC's 9/11 gift.
This is not an accident, it is also by design. Fluoride in water, mercury used as fillings, GM foods taking over, growth hormones used in cows, tremendous amounts of antibiotics used in chickens, gm salmon now, asbestos, outsourcing jobs, insane laws. All of this and much more is being done to make sure there are FEW who have the strength to fight these bastards.
God is always good!
You can start by renaming it the Pro Peace movement. The Anti war movement has been around since the 60s but it has gone no where due to infighting and self sabotage. Follow the advice of Mother Threasa, start a pro peace movement.
If you and I were anti-Semites, we would give Mr Zakheim his full title as rabbi Dov Zakheim.
The Truth of 911 Shall Set You Free From The Lie
i was an anti-semite once...but then I gots a Bowflex,now I am a strong anti- semite.
what is an anti-semite anyway? Being a well tanned dude as I am,and the fact that almost every jew in Israel would be lily white,I might be a semite
Anyone who tells the truth about the jews.
I seen many methods for highway signs. They can be made cheap on anything White with a large black marker or black duck tape as letters. A sign that large can be done by hand and still be readable. The letters just need to be at least 12 inches high. As for the balloons, it is true that this idea is a bit odd. And that's what makes it a viable alternative. Take a large balloon, red w/black or White w/black and write the message such as "Stop the war" as only three words would fit. Or a weather balloon might be better but helium might get too expensive. Nevertheless, Use fishing line wrapped around a pole, tree or whatever and move the tied area up the pole with a stick so no one can remove it easily. Would be amusing to see neocons shooting them down. Imagine just only dozens of folks putting up a few signs or balloons each day. It would force the media to cover the story. And force the sheeple to pay attention.
Americans did not show up for rallies against immigration. Americans did not show up for rallies against globalism. They won't show up against the wars. Even during the Bush years there were little if any protests against the war. And when Indymedia finds out I'm a White guy that's also against illegal immigration they will never give me the time of day. The left needs to do this on their own IMHO.
However, try raising money from 4um denizens for such an effort. Ask for money and their hearing goes south. I won't be asking for money as I wish to remain "Undocumented". That give me the option to be more free in how I place the signs. What would help is others helping out by posting their signs of protest against the war.
But it can only be that way if Americans allow such a nightmare to continue. Most Americans have become nearly as greedy and obsessed with self-importance as the bastards. The buy the chicken, shop at Walmart and hire the illegals. They bear a great deal of responsibility for the supporting the bastards.
Good idea. I use that when I make a blog up for the protest.
Solicit good designs to go along with the e-mail, then pick the best ones and resend them so people can simply print it out upon arrival and make some copies. Yes, you do need to market this as PRO Peace, not ANTI war. A movement has much more energy on a positive than it does on a negative.
"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations
Again this is an ANTI rally. It just won't bring in as many people as a PRO rally. This is a universal law. All three "rallies" had a very basic marketing flaw--it was negative and not positive. You need a rally PRO LEGAL immigration, not ANTI immigration, which has already been dubbed racist and such. Even Mother Theresa said she would not attend a protest against war, but she would be happy to attend a rally for peace. All successful movements are FOR what is wanted or desired. Gahndi continually rallied folks around what he wanted, not what he was against. In life, what you resist persists, so it is very important to determine what you are FOR and then go out and get it. : )
"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations
I made up a sign using cheap white poster-board 22 x 28 inch and thick "poster markers" which are permanent but not the toxic "permanent markers" using 3 inch high stencils. You can do this without stencils using block letters along a drawn line. On the the back I taped two cheap coat hangers with packing tape and added a bungee cord. Clipping the bungee cord around a metal street pole and moving it up and out of reach using a stick. Tues I'll place this sign and a experimental balloon sign near or at a college campus.
good luck with that...being on your page,the media is a zionist controlled entity,if we could ony counter their garbage....but as i will always refer back too ,I am an American,and i cannot sit and watch zionist pricks take my nation without a fight.... we must get our message out
Freeway Blogging For Truth on CBS News - 23 sec. freeway blogging; how to take back your country - 1 min. 18 sec. I put a magnet on a metal pole in a heavy traffic area by a stop light so that it could be read while waiting for the light to turn green. It didn't cost much and stayed up quite a while. Whoever took it down would get a good magnet to use, I figured, and it might get people talking and thinking about Peace in their area. Works the same on metal signs and doesn't do any property damage. Chalk is another method that's non-damaging, inexpensive, easy to do, and works when you can't if it doesn't rain. ------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
There seems to be a taboo lately about organized protest against the war. Would anyone show up? Would they be afraid to show? Seems to me that this would already be happening if one could gather a sizable protest group. Perhaps with inspiration. What about all the people who can't show up? Our rights and what's right should not depend on how much noise can be made by whoever can get to a protest. Even when they do make a big showing, it mostly gets ignored by politicians and the media anyway. The Phoenix police shut down 9/11 freeway bloggers so try caroling -- like Christmas caroling from place to place but with Activist message music. Wear t- shirts, coats, hats, armbands, and pins with Activist messages on them.
------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
You need a rally PRO LEGAL immigration, not ANTI immigration, which has already been dubbed racist and such. Even Mother Theresa said she would not attend a protest against war, but she would be happy to attend a rally for peace. All successful movements are FOR what is wanted or desired. Gahndi continually rallied folks around what he wanted, not what he was against. In life, what you resist persists, so it is very important to determine what you are FOR and then go out and get it. : ) Yet in the 60's the anti-war movement did just fine. The tea parties are anti-government and they exist. But adding a peace movement to the activism does have advantages in this case. It will make the opposition pro-war.
Which is they are pro-wars, anti-American destroyers of nations.
The chalk is a good idea. Perhaps on the pillars under the freeway.
The only other solution is Civil War. Therefore we only have the option of protesting. The more that show up, the better. But I offer other ideas that anyone can do even anonymously. It must be something loud and clear and on the street to be effective. Using the internet will not be useful except for relaying the information.
But adding a peace movement to the activism does have advantages in this case. It will make the opposition pro-war. How do you figure? The war went on and on. Kids were killed at Kent State. 58K of our troops died while the protests went on. Nixon, not the war protesters, finally put a fork in it. The Dems just kept on warring, no matter how many lefties were protesting. The tea parties began as PRO Constitution, at least that was the main idea in the beginning....although it has moved from this objective. BINGO! Now you're onto the benefits. : )
"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations
On the the back I taped two cheap coat hangers with packing tape and added a bungee cord. Clipping the bungee cord around a metal street pole and moving it up and out of reach using a stick. I suggest markering your message on the bungee cord too so that whoever takes the sign down can't use the bungee cord without being reminded of it.
------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
Since no one offered to help I wait until that happens. It amazing to me that with all the whining about Zionists and what not, that there is no interest in solving the problem.
C.) Traditional protest banners placed near highways or neocon entities. One problem is that these signs are taken down quickly but one could use the balloons again. Attach sufficient balloons to a poster let it get suck under ledge or tree above reach
#2. To: Undocumented (#0)
#3. To: paddlefeet (#1)
The highway signs would give us more bang for our buck,
#4. To: Undocumented (#0)
#5. To: abraxas, paddlefeet, Undocumented (#2)
#6. To: Cynicom (#3)
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However, try raising money from 4um denizens for such an effort.
#7. To: paddlefeet (#6)
I would add that its not indigenous to this 4um,and money usually trumps good intentions until we get bit in the ass.
#8. To: Horse (#5)
tens of trillions the bankers and the Zionists have stolen
#9. To: Undocumented (#0)
One is most Americans have become meek and apathetic which leaves few to fight.
#10. To: Undocumented (#0)
#11. To: paddlefeet (#8)
#12. To: Horse (#11)
If you and I were anti-Semites
#13. To: Horse (#11)
If you and I were anti-Semites
#14. To: paddlefeet (#13)
what is an anti-semite anyway?
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)
#15. To: paddlefeet (#1)
The highway signs would give us more bang for our buck,the money would have to flow to keep them up,of course..but the balloons would be a seriously easy target..a bang for the balloon and its down. If I saw one of the enemies balloons floating over my farm I would defend my airspace with all due diligence :)
#16. To: abraxas (#2)
Why not use the Internet to muster up support for large rallies across the nation? Ensure that Indie media is on the scene and ignore the MSM.
#17. To: Cynicom (#3)
Agreed.
#18. To: RickyJ (#9)
This is not an accident, it is also by design. Fluoride in water, mercury used as fillings, GM foods taking over, growth hormones used in cows, tremendous amounts of antibiotics used in chickens, gm salmon now, asbestos, outsourcing jobs, insane laws. All of this and much more is being done to make sure there are FEW who have the strength to fight these bastards.
#19. To: titorite (#10)
You can start by renaming it the Pro Peace movement.
#20. To: Undocumented (#17)
What would help is others helping out by posting their signs of protest against the war.
#21. To: Undocumented (#16)
Americans did not show up for rallies against immigration. Americans did not show up for rallies against globalism. They won't show up against the wars.
#22. To: All (#18)
#23. To: Undocumented (#15)
#24. To: Undocumented (#0)
http://www.youtube.com/watch? v=uX0hhRxy_fg
http://www.youtube.com/watch? v=bKiPg9KKfQw&feature=related 
#25. To: Undocumented (#0)
(Edited)
1. The traditional protest.
#26. To: abraxas (#21)
Again this is an ANTI rally. It just won't bring in as many people as a PRO rally. This is a universal law. All three "rallies" had a very basic marketing flaw--it was negative and not positive.
#27. To: paddlefeet (#23)
we must get our message out
#28. To: GreyLmist (#24)
I put a magnet on a metal pole in a heavy traffic area by a stop light so that it could be read while waiting for the light to turn green. It didn't cost much and stayed up quite a while. Whoever took it down would get a good magnet to use, I figured, and it might get people talking and thinking about Peace in their area. Works the same on metal signs and doesn't do any property damage. Chalk is another method that's non-damaging, inexpensive, easy to do, and works when you can't if it doesn't rain.
#29. To: GreyLmist (#25)
What about all the people who can't show up? Our rights and what's right should not depend on how much noise can be made by whoever can get to a protest. Even when they do make a big showing, it mostly gets ignored by politicians and the media anyway. The Phoenix police shut down 9/11 freeway bloggers so try caroling -- like Christmas caroling from place to place but with Activist message music. Wear t- shirts, coats, hats, armbands, and pins with Activist messages on them.
#30. To: Undocumented (#26)
Yet in the 60's the anti-war movement did just fine.
#31. To: Undocumented (#22)
I made up a sign using cheap white poster-board 22 x 28 inch and thick "poster markers" which are permanent but not the toxic "permanent markers" using 3 inch high stencils. You can do this without stencils using block letters along a drawn line.
#32. To: All (#0)
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