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Title: When Fundies Attempt Logic; BobC's God v. Science
Source: fLib(b)ertygibbet Post
URL Source: http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/ ... art.cgi?ArtNum=295235&Disp=All
Published: Sep 6, 2010
Author: BobCeleste; J. Hovah -Jireh
Post Date: 2010-09-06 10:23:38 by Samuel Gray
Keywords: Fundie, Nutball, Science, creationism myth
Views: 504
Comments: 21

I swear to the god I'm mocking that LP is a gift this weekend with Bob Celeste. It's like a free preview of Showtime where you get the porn channels too.

You just can't make this shit up.

Seriously, folks, time to winnow wheat from chaff. If you believe *any* part of the tripe BobCeleste professes to believe, you are not worthy to sit at the table of reasoned men.

********************************** cranky (#0)

A mass extinction that caused the death of giant species of mammal including mammoths, sabre-tooth tigers and giant beavers was not caused by a comet impact, scientists have concluded. I have know that for years, it was the Flood of 1,656 years after Adam and Eve were evicted from the Garden of Eden by God.

Eve asked Adam one day what he wanted for lunch, Adam told her he didn't care just what ever she felt like. And the rest is history.

BobCeleste posted on 2010-09-05 21:02:04 ET Reply Trace


#4. To: cranky (#2) Well, this kind of explodes the evil-humans-hunted-mastodons-to-death-and-then-starved mantra of the people-hating anti-population types.

This has been a treasured tale to "prove" how bad and evil humans supposedly are. Also that we are powerful enough to kill all the mastodons or even cause global hotting.

TooConservative posted on 2010-09-05 21:06:12 ET Reply Trace


#5. To: BobCeleste (#3)

Eve asked Adam one day what he wanted for lunch, Adam told her he didn't care just what ever she felt like. And the rest is history. So you think early humans hunted mastodons to death before the Flood?

Or maybe the mastodons were just too damned big for an Ark, like they'd break it or sink it or eat all the food so that Noah had to slam the Ark door in their sad little faces.

TooConservative posted on 2010-09-05 21:09:38 ET Reply Trace


#6. To: cranky (#0) Mainstream science is a religious cult like any other.

Absolute denial when confronted with failed theory's which all hangs upon.

Here's one huge proof they have it wrong,...and thus,...the entire history of the Earth,...is something *other,...than what the Mainstream Preists teach.

Parrot: We have a world wide mythos of a global flood,...with survivors escaping on high mountain ranges. We are told that few survived the global flood. We next have a mythos of the end of great civilizations.

USGS is of course.....mainstream science. They say,....world oceans rose near 400 ft,.....400ft!....from the end of the last ice age,...to a time period around 9-7,500 yrs BP.

When the last ice age ended is speculation. We know the Globalist science crowd have been skewing the ice core data and have been exposed for it. Therefore,...the exact time window for the rise of ocean levels is open.

The oceans of our Earth are from water which has been pushed out/up out of the earths crust as per the Expanded Earth theory. This theory presents rational explanation should a more catastrophic release of waters occur,....vs gradual over time.

The world mythos of the flood describes everything from tremendous earth upheavel,....to waters errupting from below the Earths surface [Hebrew account] and then a prolonged heavy rainfall seuqence afterwards. which is exactly what would happen in pattern,....as the Earths various atmosphere levels would be overwhelmed by moisture,..electromagnetic waveform. Tsunami's with scale beyond our records could have mauled the Earths surface as the hydraulic action simply smashed everything and washed it away. as the Earths Troposphere and lower stratosphere processed the voluminous moisture release,.....temps would shift,allong with jetstream patterns, you would reasonably get excessive snowfall at some point,...with that laying down snow/ice which could quickly become new ice sheets.

again,...note the animation above and ask yourself if continents anchored 25 miles deep simply wander around smashing into each other, or if the Earth expands?

Parrot with Speed Dial posted on 2010-09-05 21:32:39 ET Reply Trace


#7. To: Parrot with Speed Dial (#6)

Here's one huge proof they have it wrongHere's one huge proof they have it wrong Neal Adams?

Seriously?

cranky posted on 2010-09-05 21:47:23 ET Reply Trace


#8. To: BobCeleste (#3)

I have know that for years, it was the Flood of 1,656 years after Adam and Eve were evicted from the Garden of Eden by God. Yes there is actually a lot of physical evidence for this.

Mike K posted on 2010-09-06 2:11:32 ET Reply Trace


#9. To: Mike K (#8)

I have know that for years, it was the Flood of 1,656 years after Adam and Eve were evicted from the Garden of Eden by God.

Yes there is actually a lot of physical evidence for this.

Mike there are sea shells on top of Sandia Peak just east of Albuquerque, NM at 10,600 feet. they are in perfect, not fossilized, condition. The evidence for a world wide flood some 4400 years ago is overwhelming as is the evidence for creation by the Creator.

The evidence for creation is so strong that God has dictated and declared a punishment so severe as to be, when ponder upon, hell like in it's severity. This punishment is found in Romans chapter one.

BobCeleste posted on 2010-09-06 7:46:04 ET Reply Trace


#10. To: TooConservative (#5) Eve ate of the forbidden fruit and then feed Adam so God evicted them from the Garden of Eden.


Genesis Chapter Three

1 Now the serpent was more subtle than any beast of the field which the LORD God had made. And he said unto the woman, Yea, hath God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden? 2 And the woman said unto the serpent, "We may eat of the fruit of the trees of the garden: 3 But of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God hath said, 'Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die.'" 4 And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die: 5 For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.

6 And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat. 7 And the eyes of them both were opened, and they knew that they were naked; and they sewed fig leaves together, and made themselves aprons.

8 And they heard the voice of the LORD God walking in the garden in the cool of the day: and Adam and his wife hid themselves from the presence of the LORD God amongst the trees of the garden. 9 And the LORD God called unto Adam, and said unto him, Where art thou? 10 And he (Adam) said, "I heard thy voice in the garden, and I was afraid, because I was naked; and I hid myself." 11 And He said, Who told thee that thou wast naked? Hast thou eaten of the tree, whereof I commanded thee that thou shouldest not eat?

12 And the man said, "The woman whom Thou gavest to be with me, she gave me of the tree, and I did eat." 13 And the LORD God said unto the woman, What is this that thou hast done? And the woman said, "The serpent beguiled me, and I did eat."

14 And the LORD God said unto the serpent, Because thou hast done this, thou art cursed above all cattle, and above every beast of the field; upon thy belly shalt thou go, and dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy life: 15 And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; It (Jesus) shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise His (Jesus) heel.

16 Unto the woman He said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee. 17 And unto Adam He said, Because thou hast hearkened unto the voice of thy wife, and hast eaten of the tree, of which I commanded thee, saying, Thou shalt not eat of it: cursed is the ground for thy sake; in sorrow shalt thou eat of it all the days of thy life; 18 Thorns also and thistles shall it bring forth to thee; and thou shalt eat the herb of the field;

19 In the sweat of thy face shalt thou eat bread, till thou return unto the ground; for out of it wast thou taken: for dust thou art, and unto dust shalt thou return.

20 And Adam called his wife's name Eve; because she was the mother of all living. 21 Unto Adam also and to his wife did the LORD God make coats of skins, and clothed them.


All of Genesis is available at: http://www.ChristianPatriot.com/gene sis.htm

BobCeleste posted on 2010-09-06 7:56:25 ET Reply Trace


#11. To: BobCeleste (#10) I know Genesis. But it doesn't tell us what happened to the poor mastodon who was either hunted to death by Noah's ancestors or he slammed the Ark door in their faces and left them to die in the Flood.

So which was it?

TooConservative posted on 2010-09-06 8:51:03 ET Reply Trace


#12. To: cranky (#0)

In the article: scientists have concluded.

Is that like the Gods speaking?

freedomcat2 posted on 2010-09-06 9:36:02 ET Reply Trace


#13. To: TooConservative (#11)

I know Genesis. But it doesn't tell us what happened to the poor mastodon who was either hunted to death by Noah's ancestors or he slammed the Ark door in their faces and left them to die in the Flood. So which was it?

Both, added to the results of a shorter life span and a totally different environment.

BobCeleste posted on 2010-09-06 10:08:45 ET Reply Trace


#14. To: BobCeleste (#13)

Both, added to the results of a shorter life span and a totally different environment. Can't be both.

Either Noah's grandpappy hunted them mastodon beasties to extinction or Noah slammed the door of the Ark in their faces.

So which was it?

TooConservative posted on 2010-09-06 10:15:18 ET Reply Trace

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#1. To: All (#0)

I have know that for years, it was the Flood of 1,656 years after Adam and Eve were evicted from the Garden of Eden by God.

Eve asked Adam one day what he wanted for lunch, Adam told her he didn't care just what ever she felt like. And the rest is history.

BobCeleste posted on 2010-09-05 21:02:04 ET Reply Trace

In case you missed the central theis (that's thesis with a god theme...ie, sans thought) this is Rev. Bob's response to a new opinion that a comet impact didn't destroy the earth as previously thought.

Samuel Gray  posted on  2010-09-06   10:27:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Samuel Gray (#1)

Bob Celeste's congregation must be the one A K A Stone belongs to.

JRiggs  posted on  2010-09-06   10:36:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: A K A Stone (#2)

-PING-

JRiggs  posted on  2010-09-06   10:37:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: JRiggs (#2) (Edited)

Bob Celeste's congregation must be the one A K A Stone belongs to.

Snake fondlers are smarter than Bob and the Mighty Maine Moose Militia. Between Bob and Stone, can't you imagine the righteous ol' hate conversation they could gin up? It'd be a veritable orgy of xenophobic "white Jesus is better'n brown Jesus" that'd probably culminate in some same-sex fornicating.

And much guilt and repression. Sorta like yukie, MadDog, and Libby.

Watching liberator this morning, in fact, doing what he usually does at LP, I'm renaming him "Remora"...the fish who suck up sharkshit. Anytime one of LP's retarded 'sharks' takes a dump, there's Lib in the middle keeping it stirred up.

Samuel Gray  posted on  2010-09-06   10:39:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Samuel Gray (#0)

Of all the fruitless endeavors I can imagine: sticking yer pinkie in an electric pencil sharpener, chewing Brillo pads or watching golf on TV, arguing religion & cosmology with fundies is easily the most frustrating and painful of them all.

I would recommend a different hobby.

I would like to direct this to the distinguished members of the panel: You lousy cork-soakers. You have violated my farging rights. Dis somanumbatching country was founded so that the liberties of common patriotic citizens like me could not be taken away by a bunch of fargin iceholes... like yourselves. - Roman Moroni

randge  posted on  2010-09-06   10:54:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: randge (#5) (Edited)

I wouldn't dream of trying to change their minds by arguing with them. It's simultaneously hilarious, pathetic, and fascinating to watch them flounder around and drown in the science while trying to stretch that poor little fairy tale book that comprises their entire library into a life raft.

Samuel Gray  posted on  2010-09-06   10:57:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Samuel Gray (#6)

This is where Bob proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that he's batshit crazy.

#13. To: TooConservative (#11)

I know Genesis. But it doesn't tell us what happened to the poor mastodon who was either hunted to death by Noah's ancestors or he slammed the Ark door in their faces and left them to die in the Flood. So which was it?

Both, added to the results of a shorter life span and a totally different environment.

BobCeleste posted on 2010-09-06 10:08:45 ET Reply Trace

So according to Bob, Noah didn't let any mastodons on the Ark, then his ancestors hunted them to death.

Those mastodons must have damn good swimmers. What I want to know is where did Noah get off ignoring God's orders?

JRiggs  posted on  2010-09-06   11:07:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: JRiggs (#7)

Bob's insane, there's no doubt. He extrapolated the facial expression of a Marine on Air Force 2 or whatever to mean that the military was going to take Obama out.

Samuel Gray  posted on  2010-09-06   11:13:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Samuel Gray (#8)

He extrapolated the facial expression of a Marine on Air Force 2 or whatever to mean that the military was going to take Obama out.

That's LP for you. If it isn't going to be the Mossad, then the Marines will do it.

JRiggs  posted on  2010-09-06   11:26:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: randge (#5)

Of all the fruitless endeavors I can imagine: sticking yer pinkie in an electric pencil sharpener, chewing Brillo pads or watching golf on TV, arguing religion & cosmology with fundies is easily the most frustrating and painful of them all.

lol.....that right there is tagline material. Randge, you crack me up.

This thread should have been entitled: Bob's lament for the Giant Beaver.

"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations

abraxas  posted on  2010-09-06   11:43:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: abraxas (#10)

Bob's lament for the Giant Beaver.

That's no way to talk about Mrs. Celeste...

Samuel Gray  posted on  2010-09-06   11:55:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: abraxas (#10)

Golf is up there though, ain't it, abraxas?

I would like to direct this to the distinguished members of the panel: You lousy cork-soakers. You have violated my farging rights. Dis somanumbatching country was founded so that the liberties of common patriotic citizens like me could not be taken away by a bunch of fargin iceholes... like yourselves. - Roman Moroni

randge  posted on  2010-09-06   15:59:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Samuel Gray (#11)

That's no way to talk about Mrs. Celeste...

If you include Stone, the Giant Beaver, and Bob's kid(s) when he can force them to show up, his congregation numbers between 4 and 6 people, counting Bob of course.

JRiggs  posted on  2010-09-06   17:05:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: JRiggs (#3)

Poor Sammy is still mad he isn't welcome at my site or LP either I guess. He is like the little kid looking through the window at all that candy that he can't have.

A K A Stone  posted on  2010-09-06   17:19:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: A K A Stone (#14) (Edited)

I didn't even mention you, dipshit. You can't even keep your lies straight from day to day. Last week you had this little come to Jesus meeting over here saying "well, the secret is, I approve everyone and you can have throwaway email addys" etc, or words to that effect. Shall I put that lie to the test?

Which is it, you dumb fucking toad? Welcome or not? Bring a bigger bucket next time you come to fuck around with me. The one you have isn't big enough to carry off the bleeding chunks of your stupid ass I've already handed you.

Candy store? Is that what you call that place? Must be metaphor, much the same as the truck that sucks all the shit out of the septic tank is a "honey wagon." LF is the honeywagon of the internet.

Samuel Gray  posted on  2010-09-06   17:28:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Samuel Gray (#15)

I approve everyone and you can have throwaway email addys" etc, or words to that effect.

I do approve everyone. But you wouldn't last.

A K A Stone  posted on  2010-09-06   17:30:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: randge (#12)

Yep, golf ranks high in my book especially if people are attempting to watch for enjoyment. I have only met one person to attempt such a painful and silly viewing experience......I think he nodded off though.

Watching golf does work as a cheap, fast acting sedative that promises sleep in half the time it takes a drug to kick in. Big Pharma doesn't want this information to get out for obvious reasons. People generally fall asleep before the golfers ever make it to the second hole. Some folks, like me, are out before any golf begins due to the lull of the boring commentaters and inability to muster even an iota of excitement about golf. The most ardent insomniac will take nine and three quarter minutes to fall asleep, while an average person is out in 3 and a half. ; )

"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations

abraxas  posted on  2010-09-06   17:33:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: A K A Stone (#16)

Told you from day one, my only reason for being there is to gather personal info on Mad Dog and Yukon for a public outing of their private info for purposes of mayhem and my own personal amusement. Period. I have no desire to interact with the rest of that brood except to tweak e_type_nig now and then.

Samuel Gray  posted on  2010-09-06   17:33:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: A K A Stone (#16)

"....you wouldn't last."

Why not?

Big Meanie  posted on  2010-09-06   17:37:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Big Meanie (#19)

my only reason for being there is to gather personal info

A K A Stone  posted on  2010-09-06   17:38:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: JRiggs (#9)

ChristianPatriot.com's positions are, we are Pro-Christ Bible Literalist, pro-life and pro-(pre-1911)constitution.

Christian Internet Code of Ethics As a Christian who is active on the internet, I hold myself to certain standards of conduct. They are:

I guard my online relationships I am careful to visit websites that do not compromise my life in Christ I take care that my written communications reflect Christ in my life I guard my time to assure that my time online is kept in proper balance with the rest of my life For more information visit the Christian Internet Code of Ethics home page.

The gifts just keep coming. His page looks like the HTML was done by a (home schooled) second grader.

Hey, Bob? WWJD if he read LP, or your posts there?

Samuel Gray  posted on  2010-09-06   19:54:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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