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Title: Judge removes 'birther' elements from Army doc's court martial
Source: CNN
URL Source: http://www.cnn.com/2010/CRIME/09/02/birther.court.martial/index.html
Published: Sep 6, 2010
Author: By the CNN Wire Staff
Post Date: 2010-09-06 13:10:55 by Ferret
Keywords: None
Views: 579
Comments: 47

(CNN) -- A judge on Thursday denied a request for President Barack Obama to testify at a court martial for a U.S. Army flight surgeon who refused to deploy to Afghanistan until he saw proof that Obama was born in the United States.

The judge, Army Col. Denise Lind, said any evidence or witnesses related to Obama's citizenship is irrelevant to the charges against Lt. Col. Terrence Lakin, who has 17 years of service in the U.S. military.

After failing to deploy with his unit in April, Lakin was charged with missing a movement, disobeying a lawful order and dereliction of duty.

The Uniform Code of Military Justice says the maximum punishment for both offenses -- missing his plane and disobeying lawful orders -- is a dishonorable discharge and up to two years in confinement. A guilty verdict could also result in forfeiture of Lakin's pay, which totals $7,959 a month, according to a charge sheet provided by a group sponsoring his defense.

Lakin's lawyers argued that all military orders stem from the commander-in-chief. Without evidence that Obama is eligible to be president, they say, the doctor's deployment order was illegal.

In addition to putting Obama on their witness list, Lakin's lawyers had asked Lind to order Obama's official birth records from Hawaii be brought to court for trial.

"If the president is ineligible, you need to know that," Lakin's civilian attorney, Paul Jensen, told Lind. "Col. Lakin needs to know that, the government needs to know that, America needs to know that."

The prosecutors in the case argued that Obama's eligibility is not relevant because the officers who ordered Lakin to go to Fort Campbell and then ordered him to answer questions about why he didn't go were his proper superiors in the military chain of command, and they gave him legal orders. Jensen later conceded that point.

The judge ruled that the matter of Obama's eligibility is not relevant because he did not give any orders in the case. She pointed out that while the president is commander-in-chief of the military, it is Congress that is constitutionally empowered to raise armies, pay them and equip them.

Any contention that any orders are invalid if the president is ineligible "is erroneous," the judge said.

Lind also said that military law says that a soldier's personal beliefs or convictions are not sufficient to allow that soldier to determine that an order is illegal. The soldier has to have "no rational doubt" that the order is illegal before he or she can ignore it.

Finally she ruled that a military court martial is not the forum in which to determine a president's eligibility, because the Constitution says only Congress has the power to impeach and remove the president.

Afterward, Jensen said he respected the judge's ruling, but called it distressing.

"It completely deprives us of any opportunity to present a defense in this case," Jensen said.

The court martial is set to begin in October, but Jensen said he's not giving up on the matter of Obama's eligibility.

"We will be giving the Army Court of Criminal Appeals in the next week or two the opportunity to take up the issue, and we are going to fight on for justice to be served in this case."

Lakin is among 27 percent of Americans who doubt or deny that Obama is American-born, according to a recent CNN/Opinion Research Corp. poll. They compose the birther movement, which demands that Obama present a birth certificate signed by the doctor who delivered him in 1961.

CNN and other news organizations have thoroughly debunked the rumors about the president's birthplace. The Obama campaign released a copy of a birth record issued by the state in 2007, called a "certification of live birth," and allowed reporters to examine the document in person in 2008.

Last year, Hawaiian state officials issued a statement that they had personally viewed the president's original Hawaiian birth record, called a "certificate of live birth," and verified it to be authentic. State law bars the release of the original certificate. In addition, two Hawaiian newspapers ran notices in 1961 announcing Obama's birth in the state.

CNN's Larry Shaughnessy contributed to this report

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#1. To: Ferret (#0)

Lakin's lawyers argued that all military orders stem from the commander-in-chief. Without evidence that Obama is eligible to be president, they say, the doctor's deployment order was illegal.

What a dumbshit, Lakin is. He just blew away a possible brilliant career based upon a pile of allegations called 'shit.'

buckeroo  posted on  2010-09-06   13:50:55 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: buckeroo (#1)

I have no doubt that they are going to make an example out of him.

My own special court martial - which I won - had political overtones as they targeted me as a too outspoken person politically.

But in my case, it was me who took it up to that level from the 'give him several Article 15s and throw him out as unwilling to adapt' mode they were trying to use on me.

I got a good private lawyer costing me a hefty fee and made things look like the tempest in a teapot and had it thrown out on the grounds the prosecution failed to prove a prima facie case.

Court Martials are traumatic, take a long time to get through, and you are very aware that the sword of Damocles could fall on your head and take you to a federal prison for a long time.

He is a damn fool for this self inflicted wound. He only has himself to blame for the fix he is in.

I thrived in my job and made helicopter crew chief and sergeant E-5 before I got out the first time, but after my experience, I shut the hell up publicly about all things political.

I sure as shit did not want to go through that dog and pony show ever again.

Ferret  posted on  2010-09-06   14:08:16 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Ferret (#2)

I thrived in my job and made helicopter crew chief and sergeant E-5 before I got out the first time ....

Are you saying you volunteered a second time, never to ETS to enjoy more of the same 'shit' experience?

buckeroo  posted on  2010-09-06   14:13:35 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: buckeroo, Ferret, FormerLurker (#3)

So? I made E-5 and Sonar Watch Supervisor before the end of my first enlistment (and was discharged as an E-6). I think most of us here have "walked the walk".

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-09-06   14:25:23 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Original_Intent (#6)

I think most of us here have "walked the walk".

And? Anyone signing up (assuming they have the smallest brain on the planet) knows they are OWNED THROUGHOUT THE CONTRACT PERIOD.

That is why I got out ASAP. You can click on my nickname if you want.

buckeroo  posted on  2010-09-06   14:34:40 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: buckeroo (#10)

I was asked to reveal my personal physical disfiguring from the Vietnam War.

It must be pretty well hidden. I didn't notice any disfigurement in DC in 99.

Critter  posted on  2010-09-06   20:27:39 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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