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Title: Quran Burning Pastor: Judaism, Other Religions "Of The Devil"
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Published: Sep 8, 2010
Author: http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-31727_162-20
Post Date: 2010-09-08 15:12:49 by tom007
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Quran Burning Pastor: Judaism, Other Religions "Of The Devil" Posted by CBS News Investigates 2 comments

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An excerpt from a deposition of Pastor Terry Jones, August 10, 2010.

Pastor Terry Jones who caused international controversy with his Quran burning plan, believes that Islam is "of the devil" and apparently has similar problems with other religions.

Last month, in a deposition from a court case in which Jones was a witness, attorney Michael Spellman asked Jones what else he believed was "of the devil."

Q. And you believe that everything that is not from god is of the devil. Is that right?

A. Yeah, I guess so. Uh-huh. Then again, it depends on what you're talking about. I don't believe necessarily baseball is from the devil because it's not from god. But I mean, basically in general, I believe that if it's not from god, it's from the devil. Right.

Q. Is Hinduism of the devil?

A. Yes, of course.

Q. Buddhism?

A. .Yeah.

Q. How about Judaism?

A. Yes.

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#26. To: tom007 (#0)

Q. Is Hinduism of the devil?

A. Yes, of course.

Q. Buddhism?

A. .Yeah.

Q. How about Judaism?

A. Yes.

I like his consistency.

Given the manufactured media outrage and scolding by Grandma Petraeus, I have decided this guy should go ahead and burn the Korans. It's the principle of the thing now.

TooConservative  posted on  2010-09-09   4:17:06 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Given the manufactured media outrage and scolding by Grandma Petraeus, I have decided this guy should go ahead and burn the Korans. It's the principle of the thing now.

Seriously.

If Obeyme and his cohorts were saying the same thing to the "imam" building the mosque on the site of ground zero, then I'd reconsider it and say cooler heads should prevail. Instead we have, as usual, the progressive voices screaming out "tolerance!" and "property rights!" for hate filled Muslims while simultaneously telling us not to exercise our own rights to freedom of speech.

Did you see that "imam" Rauf say just recently that "if we can't build the mosque on ground zero, then that will inflame Muslims as it will show the radicals in America won". In other words, you will let us build the mosque, or Muslims will commit violence.

Amazing world we're living in.

I am for freedom of religion, I am for property rights. I think both "sides" have every right to do what they wish, without any justification, based on both property rights and freedom of speech. That said, what I'm not for, is thinly veiled or even open threats. So far, Islam and its proponents are making two threats:

1) You will let us build our Victory Mosque on Ground zero...or else violence!
2) You will refrain from exercising traditional American freedom of speech...or else violence!

Both messages are openly backed up by the occupying junta in the White House.

Stunning.

So yeah, burn that damned cult book, and burn lots of them and film it now, I say. It's not even remotely the Christian thing to do, however, it's a matter of principle now. I'm tired of the threats and intimidation. And frankly, let's lay the blame where it needs to be placed, on the shoulders of those who threaten violence, not on the shoulders of those who are not committing violence.

SonOfLiberty  posted on  2010-09-09   9:15:57 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

#31. To: SonOfLiberty (#30)

Did you see that "imam" Rauf say just recently that "if we can't build the mosque on ground zero, then that will inflame Muslims as it will show the radicals in America won". In other words, you will let us build the mosque, or Muslims will commit violence.

I'm expecting Petraeus to scold us for that too. First he blames Israel for inflaming the locals that we invaded, then he blames some crank preacher who is going to burn a few Korans in a stupid media circus (staged around a complete non-news event).

So yeah, burn that damned cult book, and burn lots of them and film it now, I say. It's not even remotely the Christian thing to do, however, it's a matter of principle now. I'm tired of the threats and intimidation. And frankly, let's lay the blame where it needs to be placed, on the shoulders of those who threaten violence, not on the shoulders of those who are not committing violence.

There are some twenty translations of Koran into English. Some are pretty slanted toward the jihadist readings. Others are much milder in authorizing or demanding jihad. It is the jihadist translations and promotion of Wahhabism by our Saudi "allies" that cause the most trouble.

I think you know that burning books isn't ever really the answer.

I also find the selective outrage over this interesting. You could burn black (or white) churches and get a lot less attention. And the media always demanded freedom of expression for things like the Maplethorpe exhibit and other rancid works of supposed art. But let one obscure old preacher and his little flock of fifty threaten to burn a Koran and the libmedia turns it into a worldwide drama. In truth, it is total non-news. Who cares if some cranky little church burns a Koran? It's far more annoying to have the national media attacking these people and making an international spectacle of it.

TooConservative  posted on  2010-09-09 09:40:49 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

1) You will let us build our Victory Mosque on Ground zero...or else violence! 2) You will refrain from exercising traditional American freedom of speech...or else violence!

What you describe is typical of those that use religion to advance a political agenda. They don't give 2 shits about the religious and moral principles in their own texts. Christian and Muslim leaders do it. It's just another tool in teh authoritarians toolbox.

IMO religion and state fused together played a valid role to bring about civilization, but it has long outlasted its usefulness and does more harm than good. We have civilization now, but religions are destroying what was gained by religion, as it was a part of the state.

Religion should be personal, not public, because it's always misused. Just having a discussion on the topic can hardly be done without causing problems.

So, what we have here are 2 different religions with leaders having political goals. Is it any wonder that there are problems here?

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