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Title: U.S. Government lies about molten steel found at Ground Zero after 9/11
Source: YouTube
URL Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPTuAcZV_2s&feature=player_embedded
Published: Sep 8, 2010
Author: Mark
Post Date: 2010-09-08 15:23:23 by Red Jones
Keywords: None
Views: 440
Comments: 21

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the notable journalist named Chris Bollyn wrote a story about the molten steel pools. I think he said that according to the 2 owners of the 2 firms hired to take away the wreckage there were 65 pools of liquid steel. and these were still liquid 5-6 weeks after the event. We've seen many photos and even videos of the red-hot or molten steel. Steel cannot get to a molten or liquid state with a fire from either ordinary materials such as wood, paper or cloth you'd find in an office. and it cannot get that hot either from the jet fuel. Jet fuel can get steel to the verge of where it will begin to get red-hot, but not actually melt the steel. the presence of the molten steel shows that there was something special, a chemical, used in destroying that building. there is no question in this matter.

The workers at the job-site saw the molten steel. they have talked to many people about it. this is a dead give-away. we know the building was sabotaged with something other than the airplanes because of this. For it to still be so hot after weeks indicates something very unusual happened. and nobody can deny it was there not just because of the eye-witnesses, but because of the NASA information. NASA flew a plane overhead with special equipment. They measured very high temperaturs that could not possibly have come from jet fuel. and besides the jet fuel would burn off so quickly. It takes real heat to melt steel.

People that know materials understand this to be a dead give-away. But look at our nation!!!!! experts are not on tv telling us this.

Psalms 137:1 By the rivers of Babylon, there we sat down, yea, we wept, when we remembered Zion.

Red Jones  posted on  2010-09-08   15:29:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Red - those fires burned for what, two weeks, two months?

Lod  posted on  2010-09-08   15:36:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Red - those fires burned for what, two weeks, two months?

All that asbestos must have fed the flames. What else could it have been.

Obnoxicated  posted on  2010-09-08   16:12:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

We've all been told of the tremendous heat required to liquify steel. It is simply impossible for that any appreciable amount of steel was kept that hot for "5 to 6 weeks". Not even a direct nuclear blast would have that effect.

We have departed from the realm of science into science fiction.

Shoonra  posted on  2010-09-08   16:33:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

We have departed from the realm of science into science fiction.

Why would you care? The world you live in has no connection to reality. Evidence of that fact is your continued insistence that Obama is an American when his own ugly wife says he isn't, his grandma said he wasn't, the Kenyan ambassador said he wasn't and Bill Richardson, certainly not an enemy of Obama, said he wasn't.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

He (Gordon Duff) also implies that forcibly removing Obama, a Constitution-hating, on-the-down-low, crackhead Communist, is an attack on America, Mom, and apple pie. I swear these military people are worse than useless. Just look around at the condition of the country and tell me if they have fulfilled their oaths to protect the nation from all enemies foreign and domestic.
OsamaBinGoldstein posted on 2010-05-25 9:39:59 ET (2 images) Reply Trace

James Deffenbach  posted on  2010-09-08   16:37:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Not even a direct nuclear blast would have that effect.

Any thoughts on what did keep stuff molten for weeks and weeks?

Thanks.

Lod  posted on  2010-09-08   18:03:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Title: U.S. Government lies

Indeed! What else is new?

angK  posted on  2010-09-08   18:16:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Molten metal is the by-product of Thermite, don't you watch "Breaking Bad" dude, it really is just chemistry.

Lysander_Spooner  posted on  2010-09-08   18:29:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

U.S. Government lies

Friedrich Nietzsche Quote

"The state is the coldest of all cold monsters. Coldly it lies, too; and this lie creeps from its mouth: `I, the state, am the people.'... Everything about it is false; it bites with stolen teeth. "

Lysander_Spooner  posted on  2010-09-08   18:33:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Outstanding quote, from one who truly knew.

Thanks much.

Lod  posted on  2010-09-08   19:31:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Any thoughts on what did keep stuff molten for weeks and weeks?

Inasmuch as nobody knows of a way that steel could be kept liquified for weeks on end, it is my opinion that the stories of liquified steel are untrue. Someone else suggested that what was seen was puddles of mostly water (from the fire hoses) mixed with such things as melted paint, hydraulic fluid from the elevator system or some similar oil-based runoff, the mix having a greyish cast that looked like steel.

Shoonra  posted on  2010-09-09   1:32:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

those fires burned for what, two weeks, two months?

exactly. there are many witnesses who said this very hot molten or red-hot steel was there not just 2 weeks after, but as long as 5 or 6 weeks after. The two men who were the owners of the 2 contractor firms hired to take away debris said this. Jet fuel will burn off in a few minutes. A normal fire from the debris of an office simply cannot get anywhere near hot enough to turn the steel red. A jet fuel fire might turn it red, but can't possibly make it be a liquid state. There were pools of actual liquid steel in the debris weeks after the event. This is absolutely impossible from ordinary fires fueled by either debris in the building or jet fuel. This is a 100% evidence smoking gun type of a thing. something was put into the building to cause the steel to melt, and they over-did it to such a degree that even 5 weeks after the event they still had molten steel in the debris. Only a chemical like thermite could do that.

Psalms 137:1 By the rivers of Babylon, there we sat down, yea, we wept, when we remembered Zion.

Red Jones  posted on  2010-09-09   14:14:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

We have departed from the realm of science into science fiction.

you're an idiot shoonra. the federal government released a video of molten steel dripping from a steel bucket they used to remove it. red-hot liquid steel 5 weeks later, this is what the witnesses saw, this is what the video shows.

conventional wisdom is that this can't happen. but if a chemical like thermite continually interacts with the steel, then it can happen. obviously it did happen. The BYU professor Jones even tested the materials and found evidence of thermite.

yet morons deny simple reality in front of their faces. You conclude that the witnesses, the photographic evidence are false.

Psalms 137:1 By the rivers of Babylon, there we sat down, yea, we wept, when we remembered Zion.

Red Jones  posted on  2010-09-09   14:18:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Inasmuch as nobody knows of a way that steel could be kept liquified for weeks on end, it is my opinion that the stories of liquified steel are untrue

you reject all logic. Steel can be turned to liquid under heat. If you have enough heat it goes liquid. Thermite can melt steel to liquid. All you have to do is get such a huge quantity of thermite interacting with the steel that the chemical reactions keep occurring for weeks. They must've put it on real thick to make sure it would work. it was a chemical process.

Professor Jones found thermite in the samples from the event. That is all we need right there.

Psalms 137:1 By the rivers of Babylon, there we sat down, yea, we wept, when we remembered Zion.

Red Jones  posted on  2010-09-09   14:21:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

that Obama is an American when his own ugly wife says he isn't,

laughing

christine  posted on  2010-09-09   14:41:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

It's true, true I tell you. She is ugly and she did say that his home country was Kenya.

And here is the video of Manchelle saying it:

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

He (Gordon Duff) also implies that forcibly removing Obama, a Constitution-hating, on-the-down-low, crackhead Communist, is an attack on America, Mom, and apple pie. I swear these military people are worse than useless. Just look around at the condition of the country and tell me if they have fulfilled their oaths to protect the nation from all enemies foreign and domestic.
OsamaBinGoldstein posted on 2010-05-25 9:39:59 ET (2 images) Reply Trace

James Deffenbach  posted on  2010-09-09   16:21:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Personally, I have to take our first wookie at her word.

Lod  posted on  2010-09-09   16:29:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Normally, I wouldn't believe her if she said it was a nice day without verifying it for myself. However, she was speaking to what she knew was a "friendly crowd," one that supported Obama. And she probably just let it slip. I bet she got a tongue lashing when she got back to a Casa Branca.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

He (Gordon Duff) also implies that forcibly removing Obama, a Constitution-hating, on-the-down-low, crackhead Communist, is an attack on America, Mom, and apple pie. I swear these military people are worse than useless. Just look around at the condition of the country and tell me if they have fulfilled their oaths to protect the nation from all enemies foreign and domestic.
OsamaBinGoldstein posted on 2010-05-25 9:39:59 ET (2 images) Reply Trace

James Deffenbach  posted on  2010-09-09   16:35:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Perhaps someone will be good enough to post the link to the videos that show molten steel still liquified weeks after the attack.

People who responded to me seem to think that I don't know that steel can melt. Of course I do. But what would keep it liquid for weeks on end?? Is it possible that it was not liquified until the welders' torches were removing the wreckage long after the attack?

Shoonra  posted on  2010-09-11   18:16:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

He (Gordon Duff) also implies that forcibly removing Obama, a Constitution-hating, on-the-down-low, crackhead Communist, is an attack on America, Mom, and apple pie. I swear these military people are worse than useless. Just look around at the condition of the country and tell me if they have fulfilled their oaths to protect the nation from all enemies foreign and domestic.
OsamaBinGoldstein posted on 2010-05-25 9:39:59 ET (2 images) Reply Trace

James Deffenbach  posted on  2010-09-11   18:42:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

shoonra, I'm not going to do your research for you. i've seen such links many many times. You go find them.

pools of liquid steel. Did you watch the video posted on this subject. The workers and everyone on the job-site witnessed workers' boots melting over the hot spots. NASA said the hot spots were there. it was broadcast on national tv.

Psalms 137:1 By the rivers of Babylon, there we sat down, yea, we wept, when we remembered Zion.

Red Jones  posted on  2010-09-11   21:58:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

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