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9/11 See other 9/11 Articles Title: Autopsy: No Arabs on Flight 77 I am an ex Naval line officer and a psychiatrist in private practice in New Orleans, a Christian and homeschool dad. It troubled me a great deal that we rushed off to war on the flimsiest of evidence. I considered various ways to provide a smoking gun of who and why Sept 11th happened. Astute observers noticed right away that there were no Arabic sounding names on any of the flight manifests of the planes that crashed on that day. A list of names on a piece of paper is not evidence, but an autopsy by a pathologist, is. I undertook by FOIA request, to obtain that autopsy list and you are invited to view it below. Guess what? Still no Arabs on the list. In my opinion the monsters who planned this crime made a mistake by not including Arabic names on the original list to make the ruse seem more believable. When airline disasters occur, airlines will routinely provide a manifest list for anxious families. You may have noticed that even before Sep 11th, airlines are pretty meticulous about getting an accurate headcount before takeoff. It seems very unlikely to me, that five Arabs sneaked onto a flight with weapons. This is the list provided by American of the 56 passengers. On September 27th, the FBI published photos of the hijackers of Flight 77. Meanwhile, back at the ranch, the Armed Forces Institute of Pathology (AFIP), does a miraculous job and identifies nearly all the bodies on November 16th 2001. The AFIP suggest these numbers; 189 killed, 125 worked at the Pentagon and 64 were passengers on the plane. The AA list only had 56 and the list just obtained has 58. They did not explain how they were able to tell victims bodies from hijacker bodies. In fact, from the beginning NO explanation has been given for the extra five suggested in news reports except that the FBI showed us the pictures to make up the difference, and that makes it so. Now, being the trusting sort, I figured that the government would want to quickly dispel any rumors so we could get on with the chore of kicking Osama/Sadaams butt (werent these originally two different people?). It seemed simple to me. . .produce the names of all the bodies identified by the AFIP and compare it with the publicized list of passengers. So, I sent a Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) request to the AFIP and asked for an expedited response, because we were getting ready to send our boys to war on the pretext that Osama/Saddam had done the deed. Fourteen months later, a few US soldiers dead, many Iraqi civilians pushing up daisies, and I finally get the list. Believe me that they werent a bit happy to give it up, and I really have no idea why they choose now to release it. No Arabs wound up on the morgue slab; however, three ADDITIONAL people not listed by American Airlines sneaked in. I have seen no explanation for these extras. I did American the opportunity to revise their original list, but they have not responded. The new names are: Robert Ploger, Zandra Ploger, and Sandra Teague. The AFIP claims that the only passenger body that they were not able to identify is the toddler, Dana Falkenberg, whose parents and young sister are on the list of those identified. The satanic masterminds behind this caper may be feeling pretty smug about the perfect crime, but they have left a raft of clues tying these unfortunates together. The Passengers In the foregoing, I presented evidence from the Armed Forces Institute of Pathology (AFIP), that there were no Arabs on American Airlines Flight 77. This doesnt really jibe with the official story, so someone isnt telling the truth. This list itself is suspect because there is a special group of bone guys that are called in whenever the government needs an adjustment to their story. About bone guys: No, were not talking folks that hang around secret Ivy League fraternities. On May 31, 2002, the Washington Post had this to say about bone guys:
When remains of the Waco dead or 9/11 Pentagon victims or Desert Storm casualties or most recently Chandra Levy need to be studied, the bone guys at the Smithsonian are called in. The bone guys read skeletons like intricate topological maps. Sometimes they can make identification from a skull fragment the size of a quarter. They can read race in the teeth and gender in the brow. They can tell you who had an asymmetric nose. They can tell you who may have been a factory worker, because bones grow more pronounced to accommodate certain muscles, and who may have been a weaver or a tailor, based on grooves in the teeth where thread was held
. In other words, these were the fellows who helped tidy up the governments story at Waco and are studying the Sept 11th remains as well. By now you have probably heard that many of the hijackers named by the FBI are alive and well. The Information Times, an on-line publication, reported that Saudi Arabias Foreign Minister Prince Saud Al-Faisal told the Arabic Press after meeting with President George W. Bush on Sept. 20: It was proved that five of the names included in the FBI list had nothing to do with what happened. According to The Orlando Sentinel, the Saudi Arabian embassy confirmed that four of the five mentioned by Al-Faisal - Saeed Alghamdi, Mohand Alshehri, Abdulaziz Alomari and Salem Alhazmi- are not dead and had nothing to do with the heinous terror attacks in New York and Washington. (source: Christopher J. Petherick - American Free Press) From photos of all of those that perished on that flight, it is clear that none are even Arab looking. This seems to rule out Arabs sneaking aboard under assumed names. If you are familiar with Operation Northwoods (see Body of Secrets by James Bamford or thumbnail description here) then you know that the National Security Agency (NSA) has both the will and ability to orchestrate an operation such as Sept 11th if they decided it was for the greater good. Not saying that they choose to conduct September 11 attack, but they clearly have the ability. According to Bamford, Operation Northwoods was not planned by any rogue element but proposed by General Lemnitzer, himself, and then thankfully spiked by President Kennedy. Think also of FDRs foreknowledge of Pearl Harbor as exposed by Robert Stinnett in his book Day of Deceit. Stinnett actually agrees with FDRs decision to allow it to happen. Brush up on the Lusitania hoax, the USS Liberty cover-up, the Gulf of Tonkin fiction, and the Gulf War I falsified satellite photos, etc. if you are not convinced that government officials are capable of stretching the truth (for our own good, of course). It is very hard to keep a secret of this gravity. One possible way to cut down chatter is to eliminate as many witnesses as possible, preferably during the crime itself. Critics of conspiracy theorists have tried to nullify talk of remote controlled planes as being the talk of lunatics. Global Hawk (Raytheon) is a large military aircraft that has flown 7000 miles without a pilot as discussed in this Air Force public affairs article, and is being widely used in the current Iraq war. They also make large commercial planes for FedEx that fly by remote control as reported by the Associated Press. The success of this operation depended on the planes reaching their destination. Would the planners (be they Arab or otherwise) trust poorly trained pilots when this technology was at their disposal? Reported only in a Portuguese newspaper, The Portugal News Weekend Edition (May 8, 2002) , a group of US pilots deliberated nonstop for 72 hours in an independent analysis of the 911 story. The inquiry stated, The so-called terrorist attack was in fact a superbly executed military operation carried out against the USA, requiring the utmost professional military skill in command, communications, and control. Captain Kent Hill USAF Ret, a friend of Chuck Burlingame (the pilot of Flight 77), confirmed the ability of flying aircraft from the ground. An ex Vietnam fighter pilot said, Those birds either had a crack fighter pilot in the left seat, or they were being maneuvered by remote control. The following list of passengers was gathered from many sources posted on the Internet: Dong Lee, Ruben Ornedo, and Chad Keller all worked for Boeing. Lee also worked for the NSA. Stanley Hall, the dean of electronic warfare, (along with Peter Gay, David Kolvacin, and Kenneth Waldie on other flights), worked for Raytheon. William Caswell was a particle physicist who worked for the Navy. His job was so classified that his family had no clue as to what he did and did not know why he was flying to California. Charles Droz, LCDR USN Ret, was a software developer for EM solutions (manufacturer of Wide Area Networks). Robert Penniger worked for BAE Systems, (an industry leader in flight control systems), whose Board is comprised of many from the intelligence community. BAE has apparently removed their Board of Directors page, but it list a whos who of high level connections to the CIA, DARPA, and NSA. (See the appendix for a list of outside directors of BAE Systems that were not on Flight 77.) Robert Ploger and his wife were added late to the original CNN passenger list. He is the son of Major General Robert R Ploger USA, Ret, another flag link. The other late addition was Sandra Teague, a physical therapist at Georgetown University Hospital. John Sammartino and Leonard Taylor worked at Xontech (missile defense), another company connected to the intelligence community, also with ties to Boeing. Vicki Yancey worked for Vreedenberg Corp, yet another company connected to the intelligence community. Her father describes her death as a planned murder. Her widower works for Northrup-Grumman. Mary Jane Booth was in a position to know what was going on at Dulles Airport as secretary for American Airlines general manager. John Yamnicky, 71, Capt USN Ret, was a defense contractor for Veridian who had done a number of black ops, according to his son. The physicians, lawyers, biotech representatives, and human interest victims who were aboard, could also provide important clues, but in the interest of space, we will save them for future consideration. Many readers recall a particular Fox Television TV show called The Lone Gunmen which was aired on March 2, 2001 [Download Episode]. In the show, the bad guys control a passenger airplane by remote control with intentions of flying it into the World Trade Center. The villains were a Pentagon insider faction; the motive to inflame the public and thereby legitimate new military budgets and operations. Life indeed imitates art. It has been reported that some people were warned not to fly that day. One was reported to be Mayor Willie Brown of San Francisco. Another was author Salman Rushdie. The person on that flight MOST likely to be warned was Robert Speisman. He was an executive at Lazare Kaplan, a diamond merchant, and son in law of Maurice Templesman. Templesman was Jackie Kennedys long time lover and is highly connected according to Time Magazine. Time also reported about about his special access to the National Security Council. He has also stepped out with Madeleine Albright. I attempted on three occasions to obtain a final passenger list from American Airlines. They refuse to give a list and in fact wont even verify that they gave the first list to CNN. Since the list is in the public domain, I find it curious that they would not take ownership nor provide a current, correct list. Would it even be necessary to lure all expendables onto the designated death flights? Why not just grab those you want to get rid of and then slip them into the pile later? Have you seen an interview with the check-in personnel for the flights who can tell us who actually got on any of these flights? Not a chance. In fairness, Washington, D.C. and its suburbs draw a great number of contractors for the military and intelligence communities in their normal course of business. It may be mere coincidence that these passengers were all on the same flight; however; the government refuses to release information which would relieve our concerns. Appendix List of outside diectors of BAE Systems that were not on Flight 77: Richard J. Kerr former Deputy Director of Central Intelligence Mr. Kerr served in the U.S. Intelligence community for 32 years - from September 1960 until March 1992. He started as a country analyst in the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) and ended his career as the senior professional intelligence officer in the U.S. government serving as Deputy Director of Central Intelligence. Dr. William Schneider, Jr. former Under Secretary State for Security, Science and Technology Prior to serving on the board, Dr. Schneider was formerly Under Secretary of State for Security Assistance, Science and Technology (1982-1986). He served as Associate Director for National Security and International Affairs at the Office of Management and Budget (198l-2) prior to being nominated as Under Secretary by the President. Dr. Robert S. Cooper former Director, DARPA Dr. Cooper is currently President, CEO, Director and co-founder of Atlantic Aerospace Electronics Corporation. From 1981 to 1985, Dr. Cooper was Assistant Secretary of Defense for Research and Technology and simultaneously held the position of Director for the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA). As Assistant Secretary, he was principal advisor to the Secretary of Defense on the allocation of Department resources to research, exploratory development and advanced development projects. General Anthony C. Zinni (Ret) former Commander-in-Chief, CENTCOM Gen. Zinni was formerly Commander-in-Chief, U.S. Central Command. While in the Marine Corps he held numerous command and staff assignments that include platoon, company, battalion, regimental, Marine expeditionary unit, and Marine expeditionary force command. His staff assignments included service on battalion, regimental, division, base, and service staffs in operations, training, special operations, counterterrorism, and manpower billets. Gen. Zinni most recently served as the United States Special Envoy to the Middle East. General Kenneth A. Minihan (Ret) former Director National Security Agency; Central Security Service Lt. Gen Minihan served more than thirty-three years of active commissioned service to the nation before retiring from the U.S. Air Force in 1999. On his final tour of duty, he served as the 14th Director of the National Security Agency/Central Security Service, a combat support agency of the Department of Defense with military and civilian personnel stationed worldwide. As Director, he was the senior uniformed intelligence officer in the Department of Defense. He also served as the Director of The Defense Intelligence Agency. Robert L. Prestel former Deputy Director, National Security Agency Mr. Prestel served as Deputy Director of the National Security Agency (NSA) from 1990 - . He was the senior civilian presiding over this Defense Agency whose principal missions are the production of foreign Signals Intelligence and the protection of official U.S. Government communications and information systems.
Poster Comment: CNN published a list of the passengers and crew on the four planes who died on 911. Not one Arab was on any of the four planes.
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These manifests were published in the Indianapolis Star Newspaper a couple of days after the 9-11 event and I had my sister send them to me ... and as I said at the time ... no arab names on any of the planes !!!!! EDIT: Someone sent me these passenger lists later on. "Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it." Jesus Christ speaking to the Rabbis of his day.
These manifests were published in the Indianapolis Star Newspaper a couple of days after the 9-11 event and I had my sister send them to me ... and as I said at the time ... no arab names on any of the planes !!!!! 9/11 SHOCKER: FOIA REQUEST BY EX-NAVAL OFFICER
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