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Title: FARMING WITHOUT A LICENSE IS A CRIMINAL ENTERPRISE
Source: News With Views
URL Source: http://www.newswithviews.com/Hannes/doreen106.htm
Published: Sep 9, 2010
Author: Doreen Hannes
Post Date: 2010-09-09 21:33:08 by Original_Intent
Keywords: Codex, Food, Police, slavery
Views: 496
Comments: 55

Throughout this nation it is becoming commonplace for state and federal governments to raid food buying clubs, private food co-ops, family farms and even micro farms. The reason these raids are taking place is that the FDA has determined that we are not smart enough to decide what we want to eat. They are making sure that we have a hard time getting food that is actually good for us and fulfilling their public health mission. This is the first in a three article series profiling two cases in the state of Missouri to illustrate what will be terrifically commonplace once Senate Bill 510, (The Food Safety Modernization Act-third article) is in place.

In Missouri we have families, and a food freedom movement, that are being persecuted, and I use that term intentionally, with accusation aforethought. The first family I am going to profile is the Bechard’s of Conway, Missouri. They are facing prosecution by Attorney General Koster for violating the following State statute and were also taken to court -and convicted- by Green County Health Department for “operating a food establishment without a permit”. Basically, they are being taken to court for trying to make a living from their lawful product. Their crime? Providing people with fresh milk that tested out to be perfectly fine and had no complaints or reports of illness associated with it at all.

The Bechard’s have a small farm, where they raise sheep, poultry and cattle and sell their products directly to consumers. They milk six cows and are not a “graded” facility. They deliver milk to their customers at a pre-arranged pick up point in the parking lot of Mama Jeans Natural Foods in Springfield, Missouri. In April of 2009, their eldest daughters were delivering the milk and were approached by someone wanting to buy a half-gallon of milk. Since they had it, they sold it to the man. Two weeks later, the same thing occurred. These two on the spot sales were to employees of the Green County Health Department.

The Health Department tested the milk. What they found was that there was no problem with the milk at all. The first half-gallon was kept overnight possibly on a kitchen counter and did have a high somatic cell count. The second batch was taken to the lab within an hour and had a very low somatic cell count attesting to the Bechard’s cleanliness. These two sales landed the Bechard’s in court.

Let’s look at the state charge first. Here is the pertinent Missouri law on milk :

State milk inspection required on all graded fluid milk or milk products--pasteurization required, exception.

196.935. No person shall sell, offer for sale, expose for sale, transport, or deliver any graded fluid milk or graded fluid milk products in this state unless the milk or milk products are graded and produced, transported, processed, manufactured, distributed, labeled and sold under state milk inspection and the same has also been produced or pasteurized as required by a regulation authorized by section 196.939 and under proper permits issued thereunder. Only pasteurized graded fluid milk and fluid milk products as defined in subdivision (3) of section 196.931 shall be sold to the final consumer, or to restaurants, soda fountains, grocery stores, or similar establishments; except an individual may purchase and have delivered to him for his own use raw milk or cream from a farm.

Evidently, Missouri Attorney General Koster doesn’t understand either the term “graded” or the meaning of the word “except”, and is opting for redefining that word by putting a family’s livelihood on the line and moving forward with prosecution of Armand Bechard for selling his milk to individuals who want the product. Koster’s argument for pursuing a case against the Bechard’s is that he has gone back and read through the floor arguments from 1972 when the law was enacted in Missouri and believes that the legislators didn’t mean what they actually wrote into law. Koster has also consulted with the bureaucracy that is “in charge” of milk in Missouri, “The Milk Board”. Incidentally, the new chair of the Milk Board is also on the Green County Health Department and is driving the charges against the Bechard’s.

For years, the Milk Board has periodically threatened providers of fresh milk with fines and penalties if they continue to sell their product. Usually, the threats come after the Milk Board has made telephone calls to providers of milk listed on a Weston A. Price website called Real Milk. We are listed on that site, and from three weeks to two months prior to actions from the Milk Board instructing people to “cease and desist” or be fined for selling milk, we receive calls for milk from several hours away asking if we have milk for sale; and then I know something is about to happen. This is exactly what happened before the “sting” on the Bechard family occurred.

In the two most recent state legislative sessions there has been a bill put forth to clarify that it is lawful for people to sell their milk to individuals for their own use. Both times, the Milk Board maintained that it wasn’t necessary and once they even wrote a letter for dissemination clarifying that it was indeed legal to sell milk from a farm directly to an individual.

Attorney General Koster asked the Bechard’s to sign a consent decree that states they will never deliver milk at a common pick up point again and instead will take all milk directly to the residence of the people wanting the milk. It also stipulates that the Bechard’s are guilty of violating state law and amounts to a confession of guilt.

Not too surprisingly, this wasn’t an appealing way to resolve the issue for the Bechard’s. We are talking about a product that is not stable in all temperatures and that needs to stay cool so it doesn’t go bad and breed bacteria. If they were to drop off product at residences, there is no telling how long the product could be without refrigeration. People do still work, and most families have both the husband and wife working, so the chances of meeting people at their homes when delivery is possible for all parties is small. The Bechard’s, like anyone in business, are interested in keeping their customers happy, so increasing the chances of sour milk on the doorstep isn’t an idea they want to entertain.

This case will begin in earnest this fall, and the availability of fresh milk in Missouri is dependent on the outcome of this State case against the Bechard’s.

Armand Bechard says, “In 2003 we called and asked the Health Department if we needed to do anything special to sell our milk and they told us that in our situation, according to the law, we were a farm and therefore exempt; we needed no permits at all. That’s what the code in Green County actually states, and we have been selling milk since then in this manner.” Asked if there had been any changes to the municipal code and Armand asserts that there are no changes regarding farm products. The only thing offered in explanation of the suit against them was that the Health Department had adopted the 1999 FDA Food Code. So, evidently, if someone from the Health Department says you need a permit, then you need a permit; even if state and county law don’t require it. Never mind what the law actually says, we’re now being run by the whimsy of agents running off initiatives of Federal bureaucracies. It’s not too comforting for those of us who tend to think unregulated thoughts.

Common sense would dictate that the Bechard case should be a non-issue. No reports of illnesses and no complaints whatsoever about the product, no clear violation of the law, should be no problem, right? But we can’t apply logic to the legal system. The judge found Armand Bechard guilty of violating the Green County Health Department’s adoption of the 1999 FDA Food Code by “operating a food establishment without a permit”. The family pick up truck used to deliver milk is the “establishment”. The County was asking for $1,000 fine and 6 months in jail for selling an unregulated product that caused no harm to any one. The sentence rendered was a $250 fine. Bechard is appealing and has been awarded a new trial.

So the question becomes, what is the Food Code? It is currently a nearly 700 page document for cities, counties, states and local governments to write regulations for their citizens. The initiatives in the Food Code are not necessarily Federal law, they are generally desires of the FDA and are more in line with the international Food Code of Codex Alimentarius than actual regulations or statutes from the Federal government. Wholesale adoption of the Food Code is a dangerous thing for freedom, yet nearly all states have adopted some version as part of their Health Department program. Cooperative Agreements between state and local governments to implement the Food Code are usually accompanied by a big sweaty pile of your money. One of these initiatives included in the Food Code is Healthy People 2020. This is a program through HHS that is supposed to make us all quite healthy. One objective of Healthy People 2020 is to increase the number of states that prohibit the sale or distribution of unpasteurized dairy products.

Missouri is a state with a very obstinate strain of people, especially in the Ozarks region of the state where the Bechard’s and Morningland Dairy (the other issue I am profiling for you in this series) are located. The Missouri Mule is famous because it adequately displays the characteristics of the citizens of the state. As a general rule, we won’t be pushed or coerced into doing something we don’t want to do. I personally find it a little more than interesting that the MIAC Report, targeting close to 70% of the citizens of the state and these recent attacks on raw dairy are happening here, where resistance is great.

If Missouri falls to full implementation of the Food Code and Healthy People 2020 the rest of the states will likely be little competition for the overreaching federal government controls brought to full enforcement by the Food Safety Modernization Act (S510). Meanwhile, we continue to fight for the right to eat what we choose, and the Bechard family faces increasing court costs. The bottom line of all of this is that if you are at all interested in agriculture, meaning you have an interest in continuing to eat food, you must become an ‘agtivist’. No Farmers-No Food.

© 2010 Doreen Hannes - All Rights Reserved


Poster Comment: If Senate Bill S 510 passes you can count on this being repeated in every state nation wide. And under that bill there are no exemptions for family farms or even raising your own. This is up to and including a vegetable garden in your yard which would be illegal without approval, and you could only buy and use approved seeds - say from Monsanto.

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#1. To: Original_Intent (#0)

No Farmers-No Food

i only plow 3 of our acres,but our home garden produces enough for twenty.we have a well and septic system,we are 90% off grid with twenty solar panels and a Bergey wind turbine,we have a pond which i stocked with 200 blue gill,i have a multitudness of weapons and ammo..bring it SB S 510 :)

paddlefeet  posted on  2010-09-09   21:42:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Original_Intent (#0)

Udder farce: Belgian farmers squirt riot police with VERY fresh milk in protests against EU prices

"The face of evil is always the face of total need." William S Burroughs

Dakmar  posted on  2010-09-09   21:45:41 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: paddlefeet (#1)

bring it SB S 510 :)

That is exactly what they appear to have in mind. Best if the bill never passes. This is the NWO/Banksters closing in their control grid. Control the food, you control the people. This is social control of a more coercive form, and a way to help speed up Agenda 21 and the mass extermination of 90 percent of humanity.

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-09-09   21:49:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Dakmar (#2)

"Here's milk in your eye."

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-09-09   21:50:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: paddlefeet (#1)

Good job, and very well done.

What solar panels do you recommend?

Thanks.

Lod  posted on  2010-09-09   21:55:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Original_Intent (#3)

That is exactly what they appear to have in mind

to be honest we're in trouble I want to puff out my chest an kill 1000's but i will die way before that! well,its hoping to see you after the first rush..luck to you, paddlefeet and octavia

paddlefeet  posted on  2010-09-09   22:10:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Lod (#5)

What solar panels do you recommend

we have Evergreen panels...more important is the battery bank.. i have 20 deep cycle batteries, outback charge controllers,and outback ac inverters. the battery bank must be cared for and watched,the batteries are your power! do your homework research is imperative

paddlefeet  posted on  2010-09-09   22:17:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: paddlefeet (#6)

My ancestors lived in Frances Marion country and rode under the Stars and Bars. Rebellion is in our blood.

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-09-09   22:20:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Original_Intent (#8)

Rebellion is in our blood

too arms

paddlefeet  posted on  2010-09-09   22:22:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: paddlefeet (#7)

I know you have a pond, but if you have a small stream as well a simple paddle wheel generator is relatively easy to construct. Even better if you can build a small earthen dam and situate the spillway to drive your wheel.

Are you familiar with C. Crane Company and their White LED lighting? Runs on 12V and draws less than a compact flourescent.

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"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-09-09   22:26:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: paddlefeet (#9)

The "Spirit of '76" is not dead merely at rest. I hope and pray it does not come to that, but I will die a free man rather than live as a slave.

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-09-09   22:28:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Original_Intent (#10)

I know you have a pond, but if you have a small stream as well a simple paddle wheel generator is relatively easy to construct. Even better if you can build a small earthen dam and situate the spillway to drive your wh

if we only had hydro power yes we have a creek,but the flow could not support/generate any doable hydro power...

paddlefeet  posted on  2010-09-09   22:33:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Original_Intent (#11)

live as a slave

that is the zionist plan too serve the chosen

paddlefeet  posted on  2010-09-09   22:36:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Original_Intent (#0)

thats all very scary. and sad.

Psalms 137:1 By the rivers of Babylon, there we sat down, yea, we wept, when we remembered Zion.

Red Jones  posted on  2010-09-09   22:49:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Original_Intent (#0)

196.935. No person shall sell, offer for sale, expose for sale, transport, or deliver any graded fluid milk or graded fluid milk products in this state unless the milk or milk products are graded and produced, transported, processed, manufactured, distributed, labeled and sold under state milk inspection and the same has also been produced or pasteurized as required by a regulation authorized by section 196.939 and under proper permits issued thereunder. Only pasteurized graded fluid milk and fluid milk products as defined in subdivision (3) of section 196.931 shall be sold to the final consumer, or to restaurants, soda fountains, grocery stores, or similar establishments; except an individual may purchase and have delivered to him for his own use raw milk or cream from a farm.

Any lawyer worth his salt should be able to get all charges dismissed. It's pretty clear that they are being maliciously prosecuted, where they did not break the law at all.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2010-09-09   23:01:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Original_Intent (#0)

If Senate Bill S 510 passes you can count on this being repeated in every state nation wide. And under that bill there are no exemptions for family farms or even raising your own. This is up to and including a vegetable garden in your yard which would be illegal without approval, and you could only buy and use approved seeds - say from Monsanto.

When is this bill being debated and decided?


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2010-09-09   23:02:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: paddlefeet (#1) (Edited)

Are you in MO?

I have some land in southern MO near Vanzant. I'll be relocating permanently in about 10 years to a similar setup as you described. It would be nice to pick your brain one day.


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Critter  posted on  2010-09-09   23:09:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: FormerLurker (#16)

Last I knew it was still in committee. There is a lot of opposition so they will likely try to slide it under the Radar.

It has already passed the house.

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-09-09   23:12:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: FormerLurker (#15)

Any lawyer worth his salt should be able to get all charges dismissed. It's pretty clear that they are being maliciously prosecuted, where they did not break the law at all.

I would think so, but some of these crooked pervert judges will rule on a whim.

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-09-09   23:13:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Red Jones (#14)

thats all very scary. and sad.

Yes.

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-09-09   23:16:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: FormerLurker (#16) (Edited)

If Senate Bill S 510 ..

I can't find such a bill.

The closest I can find is: H. Res. 570:

Directing the Secretary of Homeland Security to transmit to the House of Representatives all...

"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET

buckeroo  posted on  2010-09-09   23:18:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Original_Intent (#0) (Edited)

I found the references.... S. 510: FDA Food Safety Modernization Act

Why can't you [ORIGINAL_INTENT] post the stuff?

If Senate Bill S 510 [EXISTS]

Where is this senate bill on an official website beyond your typical cackling? It would be "nice" to place the "official data" in such a way as to read the dogma you suppress while simultaneously understanding your ambitions BEYOND a thread or post.

"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET

buckeroo  posted on  2010-09-09   23:25:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: buckeroo (#22)

47 unique top-ten pages selected from at least 122,287 matching results

S 510 Food Safety Regulates Gardens

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-09-09   23:31:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Original_Intent (#23)

47 unique top-ten pages selected from at least 122,287 matching results

... and no real stuff about your complaint/argument... yet, just above... I gave you the REAL stuff.

"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET

buckeroo  posted on  2010-09-09   23:37:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: buckeroo (#24)

What you gave was a real pantload.

You are simply banking on the fact that most people will not look at the links and read up on the bill.

Have a nice day.

Bottom's Up!

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-09-09   23:55:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: buckeroo (#21)

I can't find such a bill.

It's the first link you find on Google, straight to the www.govtrack.us website, which has both a summary and full text of the bill.

You do know how to use Google I hope?


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2010-09-09   23:59:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Original_Intent (#25)

You are simply banking on the fact that most people will not look at the links and read up on the bill.

I don't know how others research FACTS.. but YOU didn't deliver the same... I had to show the senate bill whereas YOU didn't .. because you find a random website that you agree with... and then post a thread... and then play around and attempt to argue argue authoritatively as though you know something BEYOND common knowledge.

I posted the link (above) where the thread can find the FACTS... whereas you never bothered.

You have no science, no knowledge or specific references within your posts; you are just a little guy playing allday on the Internet.. grabbing someone's BS.. and adopting the same as your own.

"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET

buckeroo  posted on  2010-09-10   0:05:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: buckeroo (#27)

Careful buck you're going to pop an artery.

So, is it your argument then that posting an article requires defending the article writer's thesis as though it were a Doctoral Dissertation?

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-09-10   0:08:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: Original_Intent (#28)

... the article writer's thesis as though it were a Doctoral Dissertation?

Yeah .. like your typical daily rant that the world has ended with the Rothschilds, the Bilderberugers, the Tri-Lateral Commission.. (et. al) with the recent Gulf issues.

Quick question.. aren't you faint of heart for fawning issues that you have no expertise?

"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET

buckeroo  posted on  2010-09-10   0:13:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: buckeroo (#27)

You have no science, no knowledge or specific references within your posts; you are just a little guy playing allday on the Internet.. grabbing someone's BS.. and adopting the same as your own.

Farming without a permit story needs science to back it up? How about plain old facts (plenty in this article), the foundation of all science, duh! Yeah, Buck, you do tend to stick your foot in your mouth more often than not around here.

The guy has NO knowledge as well? Are you like 10 years old?

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2010-09-10   0:32:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: RickyJ, Original_Intent (#30)

Farming without a permit story needs science to back it up?

No... Original_Intent does... it is HIS thread. He didn't EVEN bother to post the bill.

"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET

buckeroo  posted on  2010-09-10   0:35:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: buckeroo (#29)

aren't you faint of heart for fawning issues that you have no expertise?

You have expertise with the Rothschilds, the Bilderberugers, the Tri-Lateral Commission?

Are you the janitor at their country club?

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2010-09-10   0:35:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: RickyJ (#32)

Ricky .. don't go into lambaste and complete lamerism.

"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET

buckeroo  posted on  2010-09-10   0:38:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: Original_Intent (#0) (Edited)

Those in D.C. want to starve the population at a time when the population is on the verge of wanting to starve them back.

PaulCJ  posted on  2010-09-10   2:06:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: PaulCJ (#34)

It has nothing to do with starving the population. It has to do with controlling what people can and can not eat and drink of their own free will. In other words, they only want us eating and drinking their crap, not anyone else's.

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2010-09-10   2:13:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: RickyJ (#35) (Edited)

It has nothing to do with starving the population. It has to do with controlling what people can and can not eat and drink of their own free will. In other words, they only want us eating and drinking their crap, not anyone else's.

No, starvation is their plan. Those in D.C. are trying to pull what Stalin did in 1930's Ukraine.

This would make it a crime to have a garden in the backyard.

Those in D.C. are traitors and need to be imprisoned by the people for the good of the nation.

PaulCJ  posted on  2010-09-10   2:19:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: PaulCJ, RickyJ (#36) (Edited)

No, starvation is their plan. Those in D.C. are trying to pull what Stalin did in 1930's Ukraine.

Only for those who don't wish to ingest what they have to offer. The masses are programmed to simply buy the tastiest and cheapest they can find, and with diminished income, that becomes a necessity for many.

Thing is, those "tastiest and cheapest foods" pitched in various ads contain very toxic substances, and because of that the vast majority of the population will come down with serious illnesses due to those toxins, resulting in both mental and physical ailments.

Who will pay to make them better? Who will profit?

From Bovine Growth Hormone, MSG, Aspartame, to Genetically Modified Foods, Fluoride, and suitable psychotripic medications, the populace is being drugged and poisoned unwittingly.

Edit:

Should have also mentioned vaccines, which have never been shown to be effective, yet have caused MANY health problems ranging from neurological disorders and deficits in mental functioning, to constant fatigue, paralysis, and even death.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2010-09-10   3:02:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: paddlefeet (#1)

i only plow 3 of our acres,but our home garden produces enough for twenty.we have a well and septic system,we are 90% off grid with twenty solar panels and a Bergey wind turbine,we have a pond which i stocked with 200 blue gill,i have a multitudness of weapons and ammo..bring it SB S 510 :)

Leading by example ... survival of the fittest (and best prepared) ... right on !

"Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it."

Jesus Christ speaking to the Rabbis of his day.

noone222  posted on  2010-09-10   5:27:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: Critter (#17)

Are you in MO?

we are near ft wayne indiana i hope we all have 10 years to prepare,but i don't think we will.after researching the panels and finding one that suits you,get your batteries.i built a 12' x 6' fully insolated shed,(which i suggest you consider even in southern mo) inside build a 10'x4'x3' battery box,we used a plexiglass top as to see the batteries,very exciting. next build an inclosed wall cabinet outside(pt wood)the battery shed for your electronics. (inverters,charge controllers)now unless you are an electrical engineer start researching reputable solar/wind installers.we have a 1.5 kw bergey turbine on a 104' tower,but we are in a 2 wind zone and atop the highest ground in the county.the panels are the main power but the turbine is way cool as it spins n spins n spins...ahem thats about the basics,the distance to the house is approx 250' have fun and bring your wallet

paddlefeet  posted on  2010-09-10   8:07:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: Original_Intent (#0)

If Senate Bill S 510 passes you can count on this being repeated in every state nation wide. And under that bill there are no exemptions for family farms or even raising your own. This is up to and including a vegetable garden in your yard which would be illegal without approval, and you could only buy and use approved seeds - say from Monsanto.

I've heard people say that, but as far as I can tell, it does NOT include your home garden. They certainly can't stop the sale of heirloom seeds, hell, you can eventually tweak a crap hybrid into a decent product with enough splicing and crossing then sell the seeds.

Regardless, I guess that really doesn't pertain, if the rumor is persistent now as it is, it seems to me that it's probably in the works if not in the letters yet.

I'm honestly beginning to wonder how much longer we, the normal type people in the nation, are going to keep bowing to this level of micro management. The average person won't balk at regulations generally, but when it gets down to the levels where you can't farkin' open your front door without permission, then notion starts occurring to you that you're being treated like a dumb animal.

"The more artificial taboos and restrictions there are in the world, the more the people are impoverished.... The more that laws and regulations are given prominence, the more thieves and robbers there will be." - Lao Tzu, 6th century BC

SonOfLiberty  posted on  2010-09-10   8:11:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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