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Title: Reality Check for all Islamophobic Christians–Jesus Didn’t Warn Us About the Muslims. He Warned Us About the Jews.
Source: [None]
URL Source: http://theuglytruth.wordpress.com
Published: Aug 24, 2010
Author: Mark Glenn
Post Date: 2010-09-10 08:51:03 by AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt
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Views: 385
Comments: 31

That’s right, for all you folks out there in the Christianite community frothing at the mouth and getting yourselves all hot-n-bothered these days over “THEM MOOZLIMS” taking over America, implementing Sharia law, cutting off heads, circumcising our women, forcing us to wear burkhas and all the rest, as much as I hate to douse your much-anticipated version of Armageddon with the cleansing waters of reality, nevertheless for the sake of posterity, it’s got to be done.

The fact is (and as disappointing as it will no doubt be for those of you out there sitting anxiously on the brink of your war-orgasm) Jesus never mentioned them–meaning words such as “terrorist”, “jihad”, “Islamo-fascism”, or any of the other sweet nothings constantly shouted into our ears by our friends in the Jewish controlled media that we are taught (forced) to memorize and recite these days. Not once. In fact, if we are to go by what the Bible says–the same book you say “proves” it took exactly 168 hours to create the entire freakin’ universe and which some of you use in justifying handling poisonous snakes–He never even murmured any such thing under His breath. Based on the only “historical record” you use in understanding the big, bad world around us, The Prince of Peace wasn’t even MILDLY concerned with the situation involving one Mohammad ibn Abdullah or his followers. Not only did He–Jesus Christ–not emphatically say these kinds of things, He never even ALLUDED to them…NEVER warned His flock about a period in the future where the world would be threatened by those you all disaffectionately (and with the assistance of your Jewish-dominated media) refer to as “towel-heads”, “sand niggers”, “hajjis” and “camel jockeys”.

I find that rather interesting, don’t you?

Now, I hear some of you screaming “legalism!“ and all sorts of other useless-at-this-point arguments in the pathetic attempt at slithering out of that inescapable bear hug known as fact-based reality, but what you have to remember is that this is the standard set by YOU. After all, you are the ones who follow the words in this book down to the letter in the interests of justifying war in the Middle East, remember? You are the ones holding tenaciously to that “I will bless those who bless thee and curse those who curse thee” nonsense in supporting the mass murder of millions of “THEM MOOZLIMS”.

Therefore, since this–the idea that the Bible is the inerrant word of God–is the standard that indeed you have set, I think we can then dismiss the idea that Jesus just plain forgot to mention it. I think He–meaning Jesus–would have known, wouldn’t you agree? After all, as Christians are taught, He knew all and saw all, so certainly something as big as THIS–meaning the world being dragged to the brink of complete annihilation by a fanatical group of people–THEM MOOZLIMS–is something Jesus would have saw fit to mention.

Actually however, in all fairness, He DID discuss items related to all this, a fact well-known by a certain group of people responsible for orchestrating all this murderous nonsense. Even though He did not use words such as “terrorism,” “jihad,” “Sharia Law” and all the rest, He DID see a storm on the horizon threatening to undo all His hard work in building that thing He referred to as the Kingdom of Heaven.

The problem is, for those these days who are desperate to burn the whole place down, it was not “THEM MOOZLIMS” He warned us about, but rather that OTHER group of fanatical followers of a certain Middle Eastern religion playing such a prominent role in world affairs these days. And do not make the mistake of thinking He was just mildly opposed to these folks, but rather, some might say, militantly. He referred to them as vipers, wolves in sheep’s clothing, children of the Devil and a whole host of other unflattering terms obviously designed to get the point across that these were dangerous creatures. Point of fact is that he was so convinced that they and the ideology driving their behavior was such an existential threat to humanity that He was willing to forfeit His life in trying to warn others, and it wasn’t “THEM MOOZLIMS” but rather “THEM JEWS”.

Yes, that’s right. He didn’t warn people about the “leaven of the Imams” but rather the leaven of the Pharisees. He didn’t forewarn His followers they would be dragged into mosques and persecuted but rather synagogues. In the book of Revelations, used by so many of the false prophets He warned us about as “proof” that it was our duty to expend every drop of our most precious resources we have–meaning our peace, prosperity and the blood of our children–in fighting the Jews’ wars for them, he didn’t pinpoint the cause of this time of future enslavement on the mosques, but rather on the synagogue.

You see, I have to remind you of this because right now you have morphed into a race of rabid dogs tearing to pieces whatever is put in front of you by your Zionist masters, who in reality are your real enemies and plan to kill you after you have finished doing their dirty work for them.

The fact that this needs any kind of explanation to you all is indicative as to how far gone you are in your disease. All the things you wring your hands over these days–the attacks on your Christian faith and the fact that the country has gone to hell in a handbasket–all this isn’t the result of Islam.

It isn’t THEM MOOZLIMS legislating Jesus Christ out of our culture through groups such as the ADL, ACLU, NARAL, NAMBLA, etc, it is THEM JEWS.

It isn’t “THEM MOOZLIMS” buying off our congress people and making them dance the Havanagela in the $30 million dollars a day we send to Israel, but rather THEM JEWS.

It isn’t “THEM MOOZLIMS” pushing gun control, abortion, porn, and the million other things that conservative Christians find obnoxious to their way of life, but rather THEM JEWS.

It isn’t THEM MOOZLIMS spying on America and selling our secrets to our enemies, but rather THEM JEWS.

We could go on and on, but that is a conversation for another time when you have eyes to see and ears to hear.

One thing He got right sure as shit however is the way all of you would fall victim to the lies peddled by His enemies. Remember all that business about a deception “so powerful” that even “the elect” would fall for it?

Congrats, you are part of that “elect” and how proud you must be.

© 2010 Mark Glenn

nomorewarsforisrael@gmail.com

theuglytruth.podbean.com

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Lots of comments at link, including this one:

"The Avatar
August 26, 2010 at 10:52 pm

theuglytruth.wordpress.com/2010/03/29/

YOU WILL FIND THE FOLLOWING COMMENT IN THAT ARTICLE HERE AT THE UGLY TRUTH.

BY RUTH BERNSTEIN…

“The truth is, I am only doing what Ben Gurion did openly in his diaries. I am pointing out the truth: that we Jews not only stole Palestine from its rightful owners, but that we admit it freely among ourselves and gloat over it.

No need for us to pretend that Palestine belongs to us by Biblical mandate. We liberal, atheistical Jews don’t hold with any of this Biblical crap about the Chosen People and the End Times and the Rapture. That’s strictly for the Christian Zionists and similar low IQ cretins.

If they believe all that garbage, well then, it’s good for us Jews! — and so we encourage them in their idiotic beliefs! We’ve even infiltrated their ranks. Many Christian evangelical preachers who blow the trumpet for Israel are in fact CRYPTO-JEWS: wolves in sheep’s’ clothing.

Sad, isn’t it, that you dumb sheeple should let yourselves be led to the slaughter house by our crypto-Jew shepherds? I do feel sorry for these sheeple. Truly, my heart grieves sometimes for the brain-dead goyim. All the goyim are fit for now is “bread and games”. In modern parlance: junk food and junk entertainment. All washed down with endless supplies of pornography and mind-altering drugs that make it impossible for you to think straight.”

I HAD TO CORRECT A FEW TYPOS BUT THE POINT IS THAT THIS IS IN ESSENCE THE MAIN PROBLEM.

Thank you, Ruth "

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#1. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#0)

the message of this article is so true and relevant.

Some will say that the muslim faith wasn't founded when Jesus was here. But bible-believing christians will not care about that as they have a lot more respect for god than to think that he wouldn't know in advance.

here is a bible verse.

Revelation 2:9 I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and [I know] the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but [are] the synagogue of Satan.

Revelation 3:9 is similar. The book of Revelation is concerned strictly with end-times prophecy. So this means that in the end-times prior to 2'nd coming of jesus there will be many who say they are jews, but are in reality of the synagogue of satan. can't get much more plain than that.

The christian-zionists don't care.

Psalms 137:1 By the rivers of Babylon, there we sat down, yea, we wept, when we remembered Zion.

Red Jones  posted on  2010-09-10   9:00:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#0)

Great article and post - thanks.

Lod  posted on  2010-09-10   9:01:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#0)

Remember all that business about a deception “so powerful” that even “the elect” would fall for it?

He did so well, right up to that point. That is not what it says.

We could go on and on, but that is a conversation for another time when you have eyes to see and ears to hear.

I'm glad he was smart enough to write that. There's no point in wasting too much time and effort on them.

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PSUSA  posted on  2010-09-10   9:22:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Red Jones (#1)

the message of this article is so true and relevant.

Some will say that the muslim faith wasn't founded when Jesus was here. But bible-believing christians will not care about that as they have a lot more respect for god than to think that he wouldn't know in advance.

I love Mark Glenn, and I agree that Jesus warned us most adamantly about the Jews. However, I also could point you to a couple of verses that show God knew well in advance about the lesser threat of the Muslim religion. One such verse is Ezekiel 38:5, but it wasn't my intent to expound on that again today. I just wanted to point out the usual culprits behind this controversy as well as so many others, and that the goal is to get Christians and Muslims to kill each other off to make room for the Jews.

[search Wars are the Jews' harvest...here's one that looks interesting, but I didn't look at it:

YouTube - Rethinking Anti-Semitism
... we have forced Christians into wars without number. Wars have special value 4 Jews, since Christians massacre each other & make more room 4 us Jews. Wars are Jews' harvest, the Jew ...
www.youtube.com/watch?v=h8zoiRhIXPE ]

See third world war at Illuminati and the Council on Foreign Relations http://www.apfn.org/apfn/illuminati.htm :

".... "World War III is to be fomented, using the so-called controversies; by the agents of the Illuminati operating under whatever new name; that are now being stored up between the political Zionists and the leaders of the Moslem world. That war is to be directed in such a manner that all of Islam and political Zionism (Israelis) [ATKHWDI note: I don't think "Israelis" was what Myron Fagan said, but a comment added later. I think "political Zionism" may actually be closer akin to "Christian Zionism", i.e., "Christians", since Christians are the main enemy.] will destroy each other while at the same time; the remaining nations, once more divided on this issue, will be forced to fight themselves into a state of complete exhaustion; physically, mentally, spiritually, and economically.

"Now can any thinking person doubt that the intrigue now going on in the near Middle and Far-East is designed to accomplish that satanic objective? Pike himself foretold all this in a statement he made to Mazzini on August 15, 1871. Pike stated that after World War III is ended; those who will aspire to undisputed world-domination will provoke the greatest social-cataclysm the world has ever known. Quoting his own words taken from the letter he wrote to Mazzini and which letter is now catalogued in the British Museum in London, England; he said:

"We shall unleash the nihilists and the atheists and we shall provoke a great social-cataclysm which in all its horror will show clearly to all nations the effect of absolute-atheism; the origins of savagery and of most bloody turmoil. Then everywhere, the people will be forced to defend themselves against the world-minority of the world-revolutionaries and will exterminate those destroyers of civilization and the multitudes disillusioned with Christianity whose spirits will be from that moment without direction and leadership and anxious for an ideal, but without knowledge where to send its adoration, will receive the true light through the universal-manifestation of the pure doctrine of Lucifer brought finally out into public view. A manifestation which will result from a general reactionary movement which will follow the destruction of Christianity and Atheism; both conquered and exterminated at the same time."

"When Mazzini died in 1872; Pike made another revolutionary leader named Adrian Lemmy; his successor. Lemmy, in turn, was succeeded by Lenin and Trotsky, then by Stalin. The revolutionary activities of all those men were financed by British, French, German, and American international bankers; all of them dominated by the House of Rothschild. We are supposed to believe that the international bankers of today, like the money-changers of Christ's day, are only the tools or agents of the great conspiracy, but actually they are the masterminds behind all the mass-communications media leading us into believing that communism is a movement of the so-called workers; the actual fact is that both British and American intelligence-officers have authentic documentary-evidence that international liberals, operating through their international banking houses; particularly the House of Rothschild, have financed both sides of every war and revolution since 1776.

"Those who today comprise the conspiracy (the CFR in the United States and the RIIA in Britain); direct our governments whom they hold in usury through such methods as the Federal Reserve System in America to fight wars, such as Vietnam (created by the United Nations), so as to further Pike's Illuminati plans to bring the world to that stage of the conspiracy when atheistic-communism and the whole of Christianity can be forced into an all-out third world war within each remaining nation as well as on an international basis scale....."

also, The Destruction of America : http://www.apfn.org/apfn/destruction.htm

Psalm 2, Micah 4:11, Revelation 20:7-9, etc.

"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2010-09-10   9:35:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: PSUSA (#3)

Remember all that business about a deception “so powerful” that even “the elect” would fall for it?

He did so well, right up to that point. That is not what it says.

you're right. i had that discussion with my daughter a couple of weeks ago...the scripture added "if it were possible".

bible.cc/matthew/24-24.htm

"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2010-09-10   9:38:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#5)

I just don't think that this is the great deception that Christ talked about, even though this topic is a part of the deception. IMO this deception is all encompassing, not just based on a single topic.

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PSUSA  posted on  2010-09-10   9:44:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#4)

The Harold Wallace Rosenthal Interview 1976

The Hidden Tyranny

www.antichristconspiracy....enthal_Interview_1976.htm

"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2010-09-10   9:47:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt, 4 (#5)

Lod  posted on  2010-09-10   10:00:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: PSUSA (#6)

I just don't think that this is the great deception that Christ talked about, even though this topic is a part of the deception. IMO this deception is all encompassing, not just based on a single topic.

I agree. I think the Jews as the "chosen people" and Old Jerusalem as "Zion" is the greater deception:

Revelation 20:7And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison, 8And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea. 9And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.

kingjbible.com/revelation/20.htm

I've said only a bazillion times where I believe without a doubt the "beloved 'city'" is.

"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2010-09-10   10:02:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#0)

Reality Check for all Islamophobic Christians–Jesus Didn’t Warn Us About the Muslims.

Jesus didn't warn us about the Muslims? I guess not, there were none when he was doing his ministry. I don't know about the article since I didn't read it. I figure if anyone doesn't know any better than that they probably made a lot of other mistakes or misstatements too.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

He (Gordon Duff) also implies that forcibly removing Obama, a Constitution-hating, on-the-down-low, crackhead Communist, is an attack on America, Mom, and apple pie. I swear these military people are worse than useless. Just look around at the condition of the country and tell me if they have fulfilled their oaths to protect the nation from all enemies foreign and domestic.
OsamaBinGoldstein posted on 2010-05-25 9:39:59 ET (2 images) Reply Trace

James Deffenbach  posted on  2010-09-10   10:06:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Red Jones (#1)

Some will say that the muslim faith wasn't founded when Jesus was here. But bible-believing christians will not care about that as they have a lot more respect for god than to think that he wouldn't know in advance.

God knows about everything before it happens but why would Jesus have mentioned a "religion" that didn't even exist until well after his death and resurrection? It wouldn't have made sense. God knew full well that man would someday build an atom bomb. Did Jesus warn people about it? And he would have known about the invention of the automobile, trucks, trains, planes and the risk involved in operating any of those in an "altered state of consciousness" (drunk or stoned). Did he say anything about that? No!

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

He (Gordon Duff) also implies that forcibly removing Obama, a Constitution-hating, on-the-down-low, crackhead Communist, is an attack on America, Mom, and apple pie. I swear these military people are worse than useless. Just look around at the condition of the country and tell me if they have fulfilled their oaths to protect the nation from all enemies foreign and domestic.
OsamaBinGoldstein posted on 2010-05-25 9:39:59 ET (2 images) Reply Trace

James Deffenbach  posted on  2010-09-10   10:10:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#9)

It might be greater, but imo it goes much further than this. It would be an interesting topic to discuss though.

The way I see it, if it's popular then it's provably wrong. But the deception part is in proving it to someone and them not accepting the proof. They don't offer any arguments other than to say "you're wrong", or "you're a heretic", or you're a ___________________.

So, I usually just leave them alone and only occasionally come out to play of they say something really stupid. Some things I just can't let slide.

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PSUSA  posted on  2010-09-10   10:14:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: James Deffenbach (#11)

God knew full well that man would someday build an atom bomb. Did Jesus warn people about it?

He warned against murder.

And he would have known about the invention of the automobile, trucks, trains, planes and the risk involved in operating any of those in an "altered state of consciousness" (drunk or stoned). Did he say anything about that? No!

Sorcery is drugs, and we were warned about it.

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I've listened to preachers I've listened to fools I've watched all the dropouts Who make their own rules One person conditioned to rule and control The media sells it and you live the role ~Ozzy Osbourne: Crazy Train

PSUSA  posted on  2010-09-10   10:19:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Lod (#8)

So sad. The Arab peoples have suffered terribly because of brain-dead churches preaching the leaven of the Pharisees.

"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2010-09-10   10:23:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: James Deffenbach (#10)

Jesus didn't warn us about the Muslims? I guess not, there were none when he was doing his ministry. I don't know about the article since I didn't read it. I figure if anyone doesn't know any better than that they probably made a lot of other mistakes or misstatements too.

I think his point was that Jesus DID warn us about the Jews. You're not familiar with Mark Glenn?

History's Forgotten Braveheart: Jesus of Nazareth
by Mark Glenn
(Thursday, April 22, 2004)

http://usa.mediamonitors.net/content/view/full/6422

[Excerpt from No Beauty In the Beast...Israel Without Her Mascara http://www.amazon.com/Beauty-Bea...B000T6LUUE?tag=dogpile-20 ]

Six Simple Words http://www.gnosticliberationfront.com/six_simple_words.htm

The Men In Black http://www.gnosticliberationfront.com/men_in_black.htm

Just some of my favorites that come to mind...and what's this...

Mark Glenn, Phil Tourney receive death threats by Mossad “wannabe ... Aug 16, 2010 ... Alternative journalist Mark Glenn of The Ugly Truth website and former co-host of Mark’s The Ugly Truth podcast Phil Tourney a USS Liberty survivor were both recently threatened by a self-proclaimed Mossad agent.

According to Phil he and his wife were at a lounge somewhere in southern California when he was approached by an Israeli proclaiming to be Mossad. The Israeli said that his government was very dissatisfied by the recent publishing of Phil and Mark’s joint venture in writing the book, “What I Saw That Day.”

The Israeli also indicated that Phil had 30 to 60 days to live while waiving a very large watch in front of his face.

Mark contacted the Federal Bureau of Investigation to report the threats but an agent indicated that the FBI could be of no assistance.

Both Mark and Phil were interviewed on Mike Rivero’s show and on Truth Jihad radio with Kevin Barrett. Here are the links - ...... whitewraithe.wordpress.co...hreats-by-mossad-wannabe/

"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2010-09-10   10:41:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: PSUSA (#13)

He warned against murder.

And your point is what, exactly? He warned against something that existed since Cain killed his brother. There were no Muslims around during the earthly ministry of Jesus. Their alleged "prophet" and inventor of their religion was not born until something like 500 years after Jesus was murdered and resurrected.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

He (Gordon Duff) also implies that forcibly removing Obama, a Constitution-hating, on-the-down-low, crackhead Communist, is an attack on America, Mom, and apple pie. I swear these military people are worse than useless. Just look around at the condition of the country and tell me if they have fulfilled their oaths to protect the nation from all enemies foreign and domestic.
OsamaBinGoldstein posted on 2010-05-25 9:39:59 ET (2 images) Reply Trace

James Deffenbach  posted on  2010-09-10   10:42:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: PSUSA (#13)

Sorcery is drugs, and we were warned about it.

Uh huh. Right. That is a terrific reply to my statement. Yeah, really. /s

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

He (Gordon Duff) also implies that forcibly removing Obama, a Constitution-hating, on-the-down-low, crackhead Communist, is an attack on America, Mom, and apple pie. I swear these military people are worse than useless. Just look around at the condition of the country and tell me if they have fulfilled their oaths to protect the nation from all enemies foreign and domestic.
OsamaBinGoldstein posted on 2010-05-25 9:39:59 ET (2 images) Reply Trace

James Deffenbach  posted on  2010-09-10   10:44:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: James Deffenbach (#17)

Uh huh. Right. That is a terrific reply to my statement. Yeah, really. /s

WEll when you ask stupid questions, then expect stupid answers.

Technology changes, people dont. So address the principles involved and it doesn't matter what the technology is.


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PSUSA  posted on  2010-09-10   10:47:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#15)

I think his point was that Jesus DID warn us about the Jews.

What are you on about? Jesus was a Jew! He was born of a Jewish mother, in Galilee, a Jewish part of the world. All of his friends, associates, colleagues, disciples, all of them were Jews. He regularly worshipped in Jewish communal worship, what we call synagogues. He preached from Jewish text, from the Bible. He celebrated the Jewish festivals. He went on pilgrimage to the Jewish Temple in Jerusalem where he was under the authority of priests.... He lived, was born, lived, died, taught as a Jew. This is obvious to any casual reader of the gospel text. Doesn't mean all Jews are good. And they are most certainly not all bad either.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

He (Gordon Duff) also implies that forcibly removing Obama, a Constitution-hating, on-the-down-low, crackhead Communist, is an attack on America, Mom, and apple pie. I swear these military people are worse than useless. Just look around at the condition of the country and tell me if they have fulfilled their oaths to protect the nation from all enemies foreign and domestic.
OsamaBinGoldstein posted on 2010-05-25 9:39:59 ET (2 images) Reply Trace

James Deffenbach  posted on  2010-09-10   10:51:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: PSUSA (#18) (Edited)

WEll when you ask stupid questions, then expect stupid answers.

Don't recall asking you any question, stupid or otherwise. I made a simple statement, one which seemed to go over your head.

edit: I did in fact ask you a couple of slam-dunk questions about other things that Jesus never warned about. But you danced around the maypole yammering about sorcery and other things.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

He (Gordon Duff) also implies that forcibly removing Obama, a Constitution-hating, on-the-down-low, crackhead Communist, is an attack on America, Mom, and apple pie. I swear these military people are worse than useless. Just look around at the condition of the country and tell me if they have fulfilled their oaths to protect the nation from all enemies foreign and domestic.
OsamaBinGoldstein posted on 2010-05-25 9:39:59 ET (2 images) Reply Trace

James Deffenbach  posted on  2010-09-10   10:52:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: James Deffenbach (#20)

Don't recall asking you any question, stupid or otherwise. I made a simple statement, one which seemed to go over your head.

edit: I did in fact ask you a couple of slam-dunk questions about other things that Jesus never warned about. But you danced around the maypole yammering about sorcery and other things.

Uh huh. It wasn't a simple statement, but a simple minded one.

You are the one that brought up the A bomb idiocy and the DUI stupidity.

Scripture addresses the principles behind it. I guess that went over your head.

We don't disagree on this, since you wrote "God knows about everything before it happens but why would Jesus have mentioned a "religion" that didn't even exist until well after his death and resurrection? It wouldn't have made sense."

But your way of arguing the point was silly.

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PSUSA  posted on  2010-09-10   11:31:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: James Deffenbach (#19)

Jesus was a Jew! He was born of a Jewish mother, in Galilee, a Jewish part of the world. All of his friends, associates, colleagues, disciples, all of them were Jews.

www.keyway.ca/htm2005/20050110.htm

When the Assyrians took Israelites away, they brought in foreigners to tend the land. In the case of the Galilee captivity, they brought in Gentiles to settle there (2 Kings 15:29, 17:24), which resulted in Galilee later being sometimes known as "Galilee of the nations," or "Galilee of the Gentiles" (Isaiah 9:1, Matthew 4:13-16). It was also from those immigrants that the Galilean accent of later times originated, even among the Hebrew and Aramaic speaking people of Judah (including Jesus Christ and most of His apostles) who then lived in Galilee, which was very noticeable to the other people of Judah who lived in the south (e.g. to Peter, "your accent betrays you" in Matthew 26:73 RSV).

You were saying??? Galilee was a gentile area.

If Jesus was a jew, he'd have had no problem with the jew rulers. He was a Hebrew, descended from David, not a jew. .


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PSUSA  posted on  2010-09-10   11:39:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#4)

thanks for reminding me about Albert Pike's letters which I think are hugely important key to world history.

When I was in high school they had a big page devoted to Albert Pike. There was a picture of him and words extolling him. I could not figure out why a man who founded the KKK was so honored. And the book didn't say he did anything else of note besides found the KKK. So it looked like a lot of ink & paper devoted to him for this achievement when many people contributed in a positive way and were not so mentioned in that history book. I wondered why. Then later I found out why. because he was on the dark side and in with the people who rule. there is also a statue to him in Washington DC on a public street. Why does the federal government honor the founder of the KKK? You ask people and nobody cares, the truth is too horrible.

Albert Pike wrote a series of letters in which he predicted future history. But he said an angel came to him and gave him these visions. All he did was write down the visions and these visions became history. I think there is a serious effort to make his prophecies come true.

I feel the time will come when Jesus will intervene and disrupt the plans of those on the dark side.

Psalms 137:1 By the rivers of Babylon, there we sat down, yea, we wept, when we remembered Zion.

Red Jones  posted on  2010-09-10   11:41:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: James Deffenbach (#11)

I put up the verse Revelation 2:9. That occurs in a vision that came to this disciple named John. and I believe it may have been Jesus in the vision speaking. or maybe it was an angel. I'm not sure. Regardless, it is a clear warning about jews and it was meant for a time (end-times) that was different from jesus' time. Revelation 3:9 is similar. and in the new testament's gospel books (matthew, mark, luke & john) jesus himself bad-mouths jews tremendously.

Like you said, he didn't warn us of many bad things. but he warned us about jews.

Psalms 137:1 By the rivers of Babylon, there we sat down, yea, we wept, when we remembered Zion.

Red Jones  posted on  2010-09-10   11:49:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: James Deffenbach (#19)

He preached from Jewish text, from the Bible.

I remind you that 35 of 40 Old testament books the jews reject and have rejected since jesus was here. Of the 5 Old Testament books that jews today honor, it is the first 5 books of the Old testament, and jews will tell you that their version is different from the christian versions of those books.

The jewish prophet Jeremiah also criticized jews strongly. Most of the talmud was written after Jesus was here. I've read that it was not completed until the 13'th century. And the talmud is much more important to most jews than the torah. In other words, that religion has been modified tremendously since pre- jesus times. Most of their scripture was thrown out and made all-new.

Jesus criticized the jewish hierarchy strongly and said the kingdom of heaven was open to all, the jew first, then the non-jew. Jesus is hated for this. This is considered hate-speech by jews.

Psalms 137:1 By the rivers of Babylon, there we sat down, yea, we wept, when we remembered Zion.

Red Jones  posted on  2010-09-10   11:58:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#9)

I've said only a bazillion times where I believe without a doubt the "beloved 'city'" is.

I don't think I read what you said was your opinion of where this 'beloved city' is. Is it America?

Psalms 137:1 By the rivers of Babylon, there we sat down, yea, we wept, when we remembered Zion.

Red Jones  posted on  2010-09-10   13:53:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: James Deffenbach (#11)

(drunk or stoned

I know there are verses i believe in Proverbs that advise against being a drunkard, people assume a drunk by habit. and there are also a couple of verses that say it is proper to a person to drink wine in the evening if the mind is troubled, and to help with digestion. and there is a verse in Revelation as PSUSA alluded to that says in the 'end-times' period the whole world will come under the spell of sorcery. greek translation of that word means pharmacist. The whole world is today coming under the influence of drugs, legal and illegal.

The bible is obvioualy the world's most popular book. For that reason alone people should respect it. The bible says that faith comes by hearing and reading the word of god.

Revelation is definitely it says explicitly devoted to 'end-times' prophecy. Book of daniel also is thought to be like that. Those 2 books are fascinating to read today as they seem to be prophecy that is coming true.

At the height of the man-made problems on earth when it seems to become impossible for the people to live on this planet any more, that is when Jesus will return.

I'm amazed at people who ridicule 'end-times' prophecy. The christian bible is full of end-times prophecy, lots of it anyway. People don't realize that when they denounce 'end-time' people who believe those prophecies they are really denouncing the christian faith.

Psalms 137:1 By the rivers of Babylon, there we sat down, yea, we wept, when we remembered Zion.

Red Jones  posted on  2010-09-10   13:59:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: PSUSA (#22)

Well, I will believe the Bible no matter what you say about it.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

He (Gordon Duff) also implies that forcibly removing Obama, a Constitution-hating, on-the-down-low, crackhead Communist, is an attack on America, Mom, and apple pie. I swear these military people are worse than useless. Just look around at the condition of the country and tell me if they have fulfilled their oaths to protect the nation from all enemies foreign and domestic.
OsamaBinGoldstein posted on 2010-05-25 9:39:59 ET (2 images) Reply Trace

James Deffenbach  posted on  2010-09-10   14:52:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: James Deffenbach (#28)

Which version?


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PSUSA  posted on  2010-09-10   17:32:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: PSUSA (#29)

King James.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

He (Gordon Duff) also implies that forcibly removing Obama, a Constitution-hating, on-the-down-low, crackhead Communist, is an attack on America, Mom, and apple pie. I swear these military people are worse than useless. Just look around at the condition of the country and tell me if they have fulfilled their oaths to protect the nation from all enemies foreign and domestic.
OsamaBinGoldstein posted on 2010-05-25 9:39:59 ET (2 images) Reply Trace

James Deffenbach  posted on  2010-09-10   17:58:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#0)

The media is making every effort to whip Christians into a lynch mob.

"Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it."

Jesus Christ speaking to the Rabbis of his day.

noone222  posted on  2010-09-11   7:17:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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