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Title: Lloyd Pye: Everything You Know Is Wrong (Human Origins)
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URL Source: http://veehd.com/video/4521862_Lloy ... w-Is-Wrong-Human-Origins-nYx64
Published: Sep 12, 2010
Author: loyd pye
Post Date: 2010-09-12 12:32:56 by gengis gandhi
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Views: 712
Comments: 38

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#1. To: flintlock, christine (#0)

interesting stuff.

check it out when you get a chance, put the pieces together.

makes a hell of alot more sense than the monkey theory or the god on a cloud breathing life into clay theory.

gengis gandhi  posted on  2010-09-12   13:00:28 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: gengis gandhi, christine, 4 (#1)

If this is the Canadian who dates man back 200K years, he was, or will be, giving a talk here at Brave New Bookstore.

Lod  posted on  2010-09-12   13:11:22 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Lod (#2)

Pye is a bit conservative. Artifacts recovered outside of Mexico City and dated by Virginia Steen-McIntyre of the U.S. Coastal and Geodetic Survey, using standard dating techniques, came up with an estimated age of 240,000 years. Of course despite using sound and standard methodology she was run out of Archaeology for having uncovered "heretical" results. She now owns a Florists shop - in Austin if I recall correctly.

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-09-12   13:15:23 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Original_Intent (#3)

Pye is a bit conservative. Artifacts recovered outside of Mexico City and dated by Virginia Steen-McIntyre of the U.S. Coastal and Geodetic Survey, using standard dating techniques, came up with an estimated age of 240,000 years. Of course despite using sound and standard methodology she was run out of Archaeology for having uncovered "heretical" results. She now owns a Florists shop - in Austin if I recall correctly.

Michael Cremo believes humans go back millions of years, based on anomalous artefacts and the Vedic literature of Hinduism.

www.mcremo.com/

irishthatcherite  posted on  2010-09-12   19:02:39 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: irishthatcherite (#12)

I've read his book - I have both "Forbidden Archaeology" and "Hidden History of the Human Race". When you combine what he and Thompson wrote along with other authors and evidence the case is pretty compelling for anatomically modern humans existing at least as far back as the Miocene if not the Oligocene. Fascinating stuff and the lamestream archaeologists just depise him but they won't debate him. A couple did early on after the first book, "Forbidden Archaeology", came out but he chewed them up so badly that no one else is willing to be made a monkey of. He has too much evidence on his side.

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-09-12   23:12:54 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Original_Intent (#13)

He has too much evidence on his side.

I've only got as far as his website myself, but so far, I can't really argue with what I've read. Like how else would a nail find itself deep inside rock?

irishthatcherite  posted on  2010-09-12   23:52:24 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: irishthatcherite (#15) (Edited)

There are a lot of different anomalies that have turned up in different places at different times. Often the term "Oopart" is used. It was a coinage by the late Ivan T. Sanderson and is short for "Out Of Place Artifact". An Oopart is basically nothing more than an artifact that according to conventional theory cannot and should not exist. Very often that is the exact tack taken in explaining them away i.e., "it can't exist therefore it doesn't".

There are quite a few different types of artifacts that tend to conglomerate in the category. Everything from metal spheres, found in a South African Rock Deposit and dated to 2.8 Billion years, gold chains found in a lump of coal, and one of the more stunning is the giant artifact called The Map of The Creator which was found in Russia and appears to be a detailed topographical map made out of unknown materials and is dated to about 120 million years ago.

Of course as in anything out of the official mainstream the subject attracts debunkers who just cannot accept anything not given the stamp of approval by the government or narrow minded academics intent on protecting their turf. The debunker disease seems to exist in all fields where there is unsettled data and the official lamestream, for whatever reason, will not look. For example the Sphinx and its enclosure which both show heavy signs of water erosion. The problem with that for lamestream archaeology is that the last time the Giza Plateau had a climate wet enough, it is now desert, to account for the degree of erosion is prior to 8,000 B.C.. This presents a problem for the lamestream since they have dated the Sphinx to the time of Chephren which is about 3,500 years ago. So, obviously, so sayeth the lamestream archaeologists - geologic evidence be damned - we've got our theory and were sticking with it. Damn your contrary evidence. Which is of course contrary to the Scientific Method. The problem for the lamestream academics and debunkers is that their tactics are not as effective as they used to be because people are learning, at least some are, to not take official denials as the last word without actually looking at the evidence for themselves. Argument by reference to authority is NOT Science.

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-09-13   0:33:06 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Original_Intent (#16)

For example the Sphinx and its enclosure which both show heavy signs of water erosion. The problem with that for lamestream archaeology is that the last time the Giza Plateau had a climate wet enough, it is now desert, to account for the degree of erosion is prior to 8,000 B.C.. This presents a problem for the lamestream since they have dated the Sphinx to the time of Chephren which is about 3,500 years ago. So, obviously, so sayeth the lamestream archaeologists - geologic evidence be damned - we've got our theory and were sticking with it.

Curiously, that theory about the Sphinx/Pyramids did actually break into the MSM a few years ago - the hypothesis that the Sphinx and pyramids were built to map certain stars - as they would have appearred in the sky in 10,500 BC. Of course, the kings of debunker documentaries, the BBC, or at least one of the other British TV channels (can't recall), had a documentary debunking that. They even attempted to debunk the erosion of the Sphinx.

irishthatcherite  posted on  2010-09-14   19:29:22 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: irishthatcherite (#32)

Of course, the kings of debunker documentaries, the BBC, or at least one of the other British TV channels (can't recall), had a documentary debunking that. They even attempted to debunk the erosion of the Sphinx.

I am not sure why but there seems to be an active program or policy established by the elites to stick to a certain party line and to deny the evidence for anything not within their allowed world view. Human antiquity seems to be one of the areas where nothing outside of the party line is to be given any play other than to ridicule it or debunk it. Nova, our science disinformation program does the same thing on Pee BS (PBS).

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-09-14   20:08:55 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: Original_Intent (#33)

I am not sure why but there seems to be an active program or policy established by the elites to stick to a certain party line and to deny the evidence for anything not within their allowed world view. Human antiquity seems to be one of the areas where nothing outside of the party line is to be given any play other than to ridicule it or debunk it.

It seems to be an old problem with scientific establishments - we had Albert Eistein facing resistance from the Newtonian establishment when he proposed his theories on Relativity, and he in turn became a new establishment himself - resisting Quantum Mechanics.

Nova, our science disinformation program does the same thing on Pee BS (PBS).

Which incidently airs BBC documentaries... lol

irishthatcherite  posted on  2010-09-15   15:33:05 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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