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Title: AMNESTY AND GAY RIGHTS DOUBLE WHAMMY - Reid adds controversial immigration measure to defense bill
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URL Source: http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.co ... ation-measure-to-defense-bill/
Published: Sep 15, 2010
Author: CNN Congressional Producer Ted Barrett
Post Date: 2010-09-15 08:01:23 by HAPPY2BME-4UM
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Washington (CNN) - Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid said Tuesday he will add the DREAM Act, a controversial immigration measure, to a defense policy bill the Senate will take up next week. The decision means the defense bill, which often passes with bipartisan support, will be home to two major, thorny political issues – the other being the repeal of the military's "don't ask, don't tell" policy. Reid called the DREAM Act "really important" and said it should be passed because it provides a path to citizenship for young illegal immigrants who go to college or serve in the military. DREAM is an acronym for Development, Relief and Education of Alien Minors Act. "I know we can't do comprehensive immigration reform," Reid said at a news conference. "But those Republicans we had in the last Congress have left us." Many Hispanic voters are angry with Democratic leaders for not doing more to pass an immigration overhaul. The decision by Reid to add the DREAM Act now could help soothe that anger. Senate Republican leader Mitch McConnell called Reid's decision "needlessly controversial." The Senate will need 60 votes to take up the bill next week, and Reid said Tuesday he doesn't know if he has enough votes.
Reid adds controversial immigration measure to defense bill
Harry Reid said he will add the DREAM Act to a defese policy bill next week.
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#1. To: All (#0)
U.S. Constitution - Article IV, Section 4: NO BORDERS + NO LAWS = NO COUNTRY
Ried he is a SNAKE. And YES, he is up for REELECTION in November. Reid tied both amnesty and full homosexual marriage rights to the funding of the United States military. This cutthroat measure will help complete two of the largest liberal agendas in American history. Essentially, unless amnesty and homosexual marriage rights are BOTH granted, our military WON'T BE FUNDED. It is SUICIDE!
U.S. Constitution - Article IV, Section 4: NO BORDERS + NO LAWS = NO COUNTRY
When the toys, projects and playthings of both the "left" and the "right" are in peril, evil cancels evil, and that's a consumation devoutly to be wished. Our only salvation lies in gridlock. I relish seeing Boehner and Pelosi and McConnell and Reid all at each other's throats. The Prick presides over all. It's the only version of limited government that we're likely to see in our lifetimes - barring total collapse of course.
I would like to direct this to the distinguished members of the panel: You lousy cork-soakers. You have violated my farging rights. Dis somanumbatching country was founded so that the liberties of common patriotic citizens like me could not be taken away by a bunch of fargin iceholes... like yourselves. - Roman Moroni
It's the only version of limited government that we're likely to see in our lifetimes Bump. Well done, randge!
It's the only version of limited government that we're likely to see in our lifetimes - barring total collapse of course. it hurts me to say this, but i'm beginning to reach the same conclusion. i'm having less and less confidence about an enough is enough event which would induce the mass to revolt.
you're right and the "enough is enough event" at this point might be something you won't want to witness let alone participate in yet that could be on the horizon too im diggin' a foxhole myself - r.
I would like to direct this to the distinguished members of the panel: You lousy cork-soakers. You have violated my farging rights. Dis somanumbatching country was founded so that the liberties of common patriotic citizens like me could not be taken away by a bunch of fargin iceholes... like yourselves. - Roman Moroni
Simple solution here. Stop funding the damn war and bring our troops home from Afghanistan. Then give Harry the boot in November. I wish Angle would make some prudent campaign changes. She wants to go for a wide, broad sweep of blame Harry, when she needs to pinpoint his treason and hammer the hell out of it. Of course, she isn't calling me for any advice.
"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations
Gridlock can also be extremely detrimental to this nation, Clinton had gridlock when he passed NAFTA and media deregulation, both have been and continue to be nails in the coffin of this nation.
"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations
======================================= ... AND PUT THEM ON *OUR* BORDER! I like it. I like it a lot.
U.S. Constitution - Article IV, Section 4: NO BORDERS + NO LAWS = NO COUNTRY
NAFTA and media deregulation are peanuts as compared to what has happened in the past 2 years with one party controlling the House, Senate, and WH. P.S. And I'm not so sure that NAFTA has been bad for us - it's been bad for Mexico and for Canada but not for America so much. As for media deregulation -how has that changed things? A group of powerful scions and families cross own TV, radio, Hollywood, and newspapers. Hasn't it always been that way more or less?
I disagree. Without media deregulation it wouldn't have been possible. When you have a handful elites controling the news cycle, you get this sort of treason and corruption that we see all around us today. You get plenty of war and bailouts for bankers and no accountability for any of it. NAFTA sent out all of our manufacturing jobs, making this economy almost completely dependant upon the service sector. The service sector isn't SUSTAINABLE, hence the massive unemployment today. If you are interested in HOW the last two years could have happened in the manner that they did, you must give both NAFTA and media deregulation a seat at the blame table.
"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations
You are undoubtedly right in all you say. I shudder to think what legislation would have been produced had Xlinton had a dem Congress throughout his two terms. As it was, the economy putatively generated 23 million job during that period. Boosh gave us just over a million. Correct my figures if I'm wrong.
I would like to direct this to the distinguished members of the panel: You lousy cork-soakers. You have violated my farging rights. Dis somanumbatching country was founded so that the liberties of common patriotic citizens like me could not be taken away by a bunch of fargin iceholes... like yourselves. - Roman Moroni
Are you saying we should all vote RAT and give'em even more control? Please, send me what you're smoking.
WWGPD? - (What Would General Pinochet Do?)
Egads, no. Where did you read THAT between the lines? It was a Republican majority and a Dem Potus that gave us NAFTA and media deregulation. My point was merely that gridlock can be horrible for this nation.
"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations
I don't think you can blame NAFTA for all the economic ills of today. Actually as I said before I think the US has done relatively well by NAFTA, particularly in our partnership with Canada - a fairly similar country with a huge cache of natural resources. Keep in mind that in 1993 we were facing the development of a heavy weight world trade competitor that had in its ranks a well educated, skilled work force - ie. the EU Bloc of 12 countries, which added 3 more nations in 1995. In this scenario, the US could not survive in isolation - we could not afford to stick by our own lonesome - we had to form our own trade bloc of partners. I think what did us in was China (not NAFTA) combined with the problem of unions having a strangle hold on our nation, out pricing their workers on the world stage, combined with our very flawed Daisy Chain family reunification immigration policy bringing in uneducated unskilled 3rd world Latin American and Asian persons. Silicon Valley (with no unions) was in its infancy in the late 80's/early 90's - unions were the gorillas running most of our other industries and they screwed the pooch ultimately.
I still don't get why you think media deregulation was so bad for us. How does media regulation help a nation? Look at Canada for an example of why media regulation has the same results or worse as our deregulated environment here. Canada's CBC is like a modern day socialist Pravda employing an army of tax supported tenured socialists. Canada has the CRTC - the so-called regulatory watchdog looking out for Canadian consumers best media interests. Only recently was FOX News allowed a license to broadcast in Canada - CNN and MSNBC were licensed for years before that meaning only the leftie view was sanctioned. The CRTC also requires media to have an X % of Canadian content in programming. Canadians were so desperate to get non-canned leftie news and oddball boring programming, that great numbers tried to set up dishes on their homes on the q.t. because it is AGAINST the law in Canada to have dishes to get non-CRTC approved entertainment and news. Would you like this kind of regulated media environment? And on another note, re: regulation being able to prevent concentration of ownership of media - fail. For example, as of 2005, only 1% of Canadian newspapers were independently owned. Go figure.
In the US it meant that a handful of conglomorates bought up all of the radio, newspaper and tv stations. Hence, they control the spin. It helped the nation by ensuring that there was no monopoly on information and news. We no longer have that. Haven't you noticed that there is no more in depth reporting on anything? No investigative reporting to speak of? Very little objectivity? Only one perspective spun by about five voices. This is what we have: Faux News Neocons and Socialist pushing hacks, neither one is of any value to this nation. Monopolies, especially on news and "shaping" public opinion is extremely damaging to a nation, just look at the results all around you.
"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations
I didn't blame NAFTA for ALL, but I give them their place at the blame table. I disagree. NAFTA was sold to decrease illegal immigration--we have millions more. Go to some small town USA that used to produce something--Hershey's Kisses or Fruit of the Loom Undies--those workers were screwed before the ink was dry. And now the USA can't even make our own underwear. How is that "better" for the lot of us? NAFTA made is easy for all companies to go to any turd world nation and increased the exodus to China. Plus, it created a false job market in the service sector that isn't sustainable as I previously stated.
"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations
Wasn't that the case pre-NAFTA? Imo,what has changed is that We, the public, due to Internet access, have been able to access different points of view (ergo educating ourselves on the fly). NAFTA has had zero to do with the Internet.
The decision means the defense bill, which often passes with bipartisan support, will be home to two major, thorny political issues – the other being the repeal of the military's "don't ask, don't tell" policy.
#2. To: All (#1)
#3. To: HAPPY2BME-4UM (#2)
Essentially, unless amnesty and homosexual marriage rights are BOTH granted, our military WON'T BE FUNDED.
#4. To: randge (#3)
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Our only salvation lies in gridlock. I relish seeing Boehner and Pelosi and McConnell and Reid all at each other's throats. The Prick presides over all.
#5. To: randge (#3)
Our only salvation lies in gridlock. I relish seeing Boehner and Pelosi and McConnell and Reid all at each other's throats. The Prick presides over all.
#6. To: christine (#5)
#7. To: HAPPY2BME-4UM (#0)
#8. To: randge (#3)
Our only salvation lies in gridlock
#9. To: abraxas (#7)
Simple solution here. Stop funding the damn war and bring our troops home from Afghanistan.
#10. To: abraxas (#8)
#11. To: scrapper2 (#10)
NAFTA and media deregulation are peanuts as compared to what has happened in the past 2 years with one party controlling the House, Senate, and WH.
#12. To: abraxas (#11)
#13. To: abraxas (#11)
I disagree.
#14. To: Flintlock (#13)
Are you saying we should all vote RAT and give'em even more control?
#15. To: abraxas (#11)
NAFTA sent out all of our manufacturing jobs, making this economy almost completely dependant upon the service sector. The service sector isn't SUSTAINABLE, hence the massive unemployment today.
#16. To: abraxas (#14)
It was a Republican majority and a Dem Potus that gave us NAFTA and media deregulation.
#17. To: scrapper2 (#16)
I still don't get why you think media deregulation was so bad for us. How does media regulation help a nation?
#18. To: scrapper2 (#15)
I don't think you can blame NAFTA for all the economic ills of today. Actually as I said before I think the US has done relatively well by NAFTA, particularly in our partnership with Canada - a fairly similar country with a huge cache of natural resources.
#19. To: abraxas (#17)
Haven't you noticed that there is no more in depth reporting on anything? No investigative reporting to speak of? Very little objectivity? Only one perspective spun by about five voices. This is what we have: Faux News Neocons and Socialist pushing hacks, neither one is of any value to this nation.
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