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Title: A Hatemail Turtle Got
Source: Email
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Published: Sep 15, 2010
Author: Somebody
Post Date: 2010-09-15 11:14:55 by Turtle
Keywords: None
Views: 4626
Comments: 134

Dear Bob Wallace,

Just so you know, many of us supposedly "lesser-intelligent" Blacks (or Afro-Americans, or whatever) actually are demonstrably intelligent despite your desperate attempts to portray and/or describe us to the contrary.

I myself currently hold TWO Master's degrees (one of which is an MA in "Communications in Contemporary Society" from the Johns Hopkins University). Obviously, your overly simplistic, preconceived, and ridiculous notions of Black people must reflect an extremely limited exposure (or lack thereof); so I'll cut you some slack.

However, in the future, while deeply engrossed in composing the next installment of your baseless, racist diatribes, do try to "wrap" your superior European brain around the very real fact that not all Blacks are stupid, mentally challenged and/or incapable of serious intellectual debate. After all, I frequently read White Nationalist/Supremacist websites for unorthodox (and in your case, preposterous) viewpoints. In short: GROW THE F%*K UP!!

Sincerely,

"Blaqbuck" M.S.L.S./M.A.

P.S. Yeah, you guessed it genius, the above name's a pseudonym (just like yours Bob "yeah, right" Wallace)... See, us Blacks can use smart words, too. Idiot!


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#58. To: farmfriend (#56)

Both my boys scored in the 99%tile and test very well. They have never taken IQ tests though.

On what do you base your severe opinion about intelligence tests then?

(sawwy but I had to ask)

Is this a self esteem issue? Do you feel that kids shouldn't know that always there will be greater and lesser among us?

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2010-09-15   23:10:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: HOUNDDAWG (#58)

On what do you base your severe opinion about intelligence tests then?

I would not characterize my position as severe.


"Every Person born within the limits of the United States, and subject to their jurisdiction, is by virtue of natural law and national law a citizen of the United States. This will not, of course, include persons born in the United States who are foreigners, aliens, who belong to the families of ambassadors or foreign ministers accredited to the Government of the United States, but will include every other class of persons.
Senator Jacob Howard, Co-author of the citizenship clause of the 14th Amendment, 1866.

farmfriend  posted on  2010-09-15   23:15:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: James Deffenbach (#52)

That's possible but there is no way you could know that.

There certainly is.
I know the guy, talk with him, and I read what passes for intellectual discourse on this forum.
That black man (and he's BLACK, not brown) is so far above you people (and me), it really puts the racist BS here to shame. The guys intelligence is palpable.

In the industry I work in, I come in contact with many differnt people. From all races, nationalities, and abilities.
I can tell you, with no doubt, if you judge anyone by their race you are the one who is a fool.

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"Somewhere, something incredible is waiting to be known."
-Carl Sagan.

Armadillo  posted on  2010-09-15   23:17:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: HOUNDDAWG, Original_Intent (#57)

I wasn't talking about the pyramids of Egypt. I was talking about the pyramids in Ethiopia.


"Every Person born within the limits of the United States, and subject to their jurisdiction, is by virtue of natural law and national law a citizen of the United States. This will not, of course, include persons born in the United States who are foreigners, aliens, who belong to the families of ambassadors or foreign ministers accredited to the Government of the United States, but will include every other class of persons.
Senator Jacob Howard, Co-author of the citizenship clause of the 14th Amendment, 1866.

farmfriend  posted on  2010-09-15   23:18:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: PSUSA (#1)

See, us Blacks can use smart words, too.

i caught that too.

christine  posted on  2010-09-16   0:07:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: gengis gandhi (#11)

communications in contemporary society=ebonics/jive

lol

christine  posted on  2010-09-16   0:08:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: Original_Intent (#20)

Poor, but intact, families were generally not eligible for the hand out programs but single women with children were. Thus broken families were rewarded i.e., given money and intact families were not. What you reward you get more of, and so black illegitimacy then at about 30% and 70% in intact nuclear families has now virtually completely reversed.

very true.

christine  posted on  2010-09-16   0:15:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#65. To: abraxas (#28)

The zero which makes much of the mathmatics and physics of today possible, didn't come from whitie. Indians were the first to bring up the idea of using "nothing" as a number

how did you know that? ;)

christine  posted on  2010-09-16   0:19:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#66. To: James Deffenbach (#35)

omg, that is hilariously unpc. i laughed out loud.

christine  posted on  2010-09-16   0:31:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#67. To: farmfriend, HOUNDDAWG, Armadillo, christine, wudidiz, all (#61) (Edited)

I wasn't talking about the pyramids of Egypt. I was talking about the pyramids in Ethiopia.

Ethiopia is an interesting place. We lose the thread of civilization there because the civilization was so old that it seems to have gone into decline, then collapse, and then a resurgence in the early Second Millenium. The national epic of Ethiopia is the Kebra Nagast (Translation by E. Wallace Budge published in 1922) which was first set to paper in the 1400's but existed in oral form into the time of the Old Testament. The Queen of Sheba, who was black, and her son feature prominently in the epic history of a very civilized ancient Black Culture in Ethiopia.

As well one could go to Southern Africa where ruins so old they have mostly been worn down and covered with sand were reported by early explorers. David Hatcher Childress traveled into the area when it was still more or less safe and found hints of ruins, but they are so old and eroded, as well as covered by the drifting sands, that it is inconclusive. Lamestream academic archaeology isn't interested because it would upset too many apple carts. To discover and document ruins that apparently ancient would throw their timelines off and we just couldn't have that. The already printed textbook is much more important than actually doing science and going where the evidence leads.

The late Robert Heinlein made an interesting observation that the majority of all major scientific advances are made by people who are widely regarded by many of their unimaginative contemporaries as kooks. I wish I had the quote handy but it would take me a while to locate. However, it is one of his non-fiction essays in the book "Expanded Universe".

One could further expand one's horizons and speak of the Olmec Heads, busts, which have been uncovered since the 1800's. The problem that lamestream archaelogy runs into is that many of the "Olmec Heads" have obviously Negroid features. The lamestream has bent over backwards to try and assert that they're really Indians with big lips, but the physical evidence refutes them despite their attempts to explain it away.





Olmec Heads with obviously Negroid features.

There is a good introduction by David Hatcher Childress on the Graham Hancock Website to the puzzle of the Olmecs of which we really do not know a lot.

However, there is no amount of evidence which will convince the ignoratti of the White Supremacy crowd because like ignorant bigots in all times and places they substitute their delusions and fevered imaginings along with their self inflation to overcome their inadequacy by finding someone whom they can, without evidence of of course, designate as a lower order so that self designated superiority, regardless of whether or not it is justified or apparent to others, can be justified. And yes it is that convoluted. However, racism, positions of racial superiority are an interesting form of psychoses. There is no reason behind it, merely justification for it. All of their evidences of supposed genetic superiority can all be accounted for in terms of cultural and social setting. However, white supemacists have never been long on reason, it is just a matter of their own irrational need to assert that they's sapeerior to sumwhun.

And O_I's opinions are highly skewed on this topic and he won't hide the fact that once he exhausts his limited resources he'll substitute hostility, so he'll be of no use.

Remember, Hitler said, "8 lames walking arm in arm do not make one gladiator"!, and seven more like him or armadillo won't make one bit of difference ;)

And a hearty Sieg Heil to you too. Of course as usual you are compelled by your own pathos to misrepresent my opinions, but there is nothing worse than letting facts and accurate representations get in the way of a little friendly back stabbing.

"He ain't a racist pig like'n normul peepul so obviously he ain't got an uhpinion wurth considerin'."

Of course you do not have the courage to write a counter to my arguments but instead substitute Argumentum Ad Hominem sniping. Truly an intellectually courageous position.

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-09-16   0:41:00 ET  (2 images) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#68. To: Original_Intent (#67)

The late Robert Heinlein made an interesting observation that the majority of all major scientific advances are made by people who are widely regarded by many of their unimaginative contemporaries as kooks. I wish I had the quote handy but it would take me a while to locate. However, it is one of his non-fiction essays in the book "Expanded Universe".

Heinlein Bump!

WWGPD? - (What Would General Pinochet Do?)

Flintlock  posted on  2010-09-16   0:59:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#69. To: Armadillo (#60) (Edited)

There certainly is. I know the guy, talk with him, and I read what passes for intellectual discourse on this forum. That black man (and he's BLACK, not brown) is so far above you people (and me), it really puts the racist BS here to shame. The guys intelligence is palpable.

In the industry I work in, I come in contact with many differnt people. From all races, nationalities, and abilities. I can tell you, with no doubt, if you judge anyone by their race you are the one who is a fool.

There is no way you can know what you are professing to know without any doubt. I don't judge anyone by his or her race because I know there are good and bad in all groups, even in each of us as individuals. I don't know what makes you think that you have to, or need to, hold up one black person that you know as being intellectually superior to anyone and everyone on this forum. To be honest with you I would have to see it to believe it. Sure, your friend may be very gifted in whatever interests him but many people are. But give him a test about things he doesn't know or understand much and he will be the one who will look like he may need some special education. We are all ignorant, just about different things, and your friend is no exception to that rule.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

He (Gordon Duff) also implies that forcibly removing Obama, a Constitution-hating, on-the-down-low, crackhead Communist, is an attack on America, Mom, and apple pie. I swear these military people are worse than useless. Just look around at the condition of the country and tell me if they have fulfilled their oaths to protect the nation from all enemies foreign and domestic.
OsamaBinGoldstein posted on 2010-05-25 9:39:59 ET (2 images) Reply Trace

James Deffenbach  posted on  2010-09-16   8:14:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#70. To: christine (#66)

omg, that is hilariously unpc. i laughed out loud.

Glad you liked it. As you know I never have claimed to be pc. There are already enough members of that herd.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

He (Gordon Duff) also implies that forcibly removing Obama, a Constitution-hating, on-the-down-low, crackhead Communist, is an attack on America, Mom, and apple pie. I swear these military people are worse than useless. Just look around at the condition of the country and tell me if they have fulfilled their oaths to protect the nation from all enemies foreign and domestic.
OsamaBinGoldstein posted on 2010-05-25 9:39:59 ET (2 images) Reply Trace

James Deffenbach  posted on  2010-09-16   8:15:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#71. To: PnbC (#27)

I didn't realize you were such a believer in it.

I'm not. But for over a trillion dollars, you'd think blacks' IQ would have budged one point. In over one hundred years, since the development of IQ tests, not one point has been added.

"Society is, always has been and always will be a structure for the exploitation and oppression of the majority through systems of political force dictated by an élite, enforced by thugs, uniformed or not, and upheld by a willful ignorance and stupidity on the part of the very majority whom the system oppresses." -- Richard K. Morgan

Turtle  posted on  2010-09-16   10:40:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#72. To: abraxas (#28)

math and physics were created by whites.

No, they were not.

97% of everything in the world was created by Europeans and their descendents in the U.S. If everyone else has never existed, the world would have barely noticed.

"Society is, always has been and always will be a structure for the exploitation and oppression of the majority through systems of political force dictated by an élite, enforced by thugs, uniformed or not, and upheld by a willful ignorance and stupidity on the part of the very majority whom the system oppresses." -- Richard K. Morgan

Turtle  posted on  2010-09-16   10:43:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#73. To: farmfriend (#48)

How would you explain the Great Zimbabwe and the pyramids of Ethiopia?

They were built by Asian Indians who came to Africa for gold, which is why they look so much like Indian buildings.

"Society is, always has been and always will be a structure for the exploitation and oppression of the majority through systems of political force dictated by an élite, enforced by thugs, uniformed or not, and upheld by a willful ignorance and stupidity on the part of the very majority whom the system oppresses." -- Richard K. Morgan

Turtle  posted on  2010-09-16   10:48:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#74. To: Turtle (#72)

Balony. You buy into the history written by Europeans that forgets to pay tribute to the original sources of much knowledge. Doesn't change the fact that the ideas they claim to be original were actually not original to them.

"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations

abraxas  posted on  2010-09-16   10:52:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#75. To: abraxas (#74)

This map? Nearly everything invented/discovered in the last 500 years came from the high-lighted areas. Know why nothing came from Spain or southern Italy? Rape for hundreds of years by genetically-inferior Arabs.

If the white man had never existed, blacks would permanently be in 20,000 B.C., Arabs permanently in the Seventh Century (and screwing their donkeys and goats, which American soldiers caught on their night-vision goggled) and Asia in about the 11th Century.

"Society is, always has been and always will be a structure for the exploitation and oppression of the majority through systems of political force dictated by an élite, enforced by thugs, uniformed or not, and upheld by a willful ignorance and stupidity on the part of the very majority whom the system oppresses." -- Richard K. Morgan

Turtle  posted on  2010-09-16   11:09:30 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#76. To: James Deffenbach (#35)

i'm watching this and sitting here laughing again. it's so clever. ;P

christine  posted on  2010-09-16   11:26:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#77. To: PSUSA (#32)

I love it when people come up with exceptions. They don't realize that this is what they are; exceptions.

It's the Fallacy of Composition: assuming what is true of a part is also true of the whole. Since one black had a Ph.D. in Astrophysics it assumes all can, ignoring the mean average genetic IQ of 85.

"Society is, always has been and always will be a structure for the exploitation and oppression of the majority through systems of political force dictated by an élite, enforced by thugs, uniformed or not, and upheld by a willful ignorance and stupidity on the part of the very majority whom the system oppresses." -- Richard K. Morgan

Turtle  posted on  2010-09-16   11:39:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#78. To: christine (#76)

Yeah, that guy did a good job on that one. Blackstronauts will rise again. Or "shoot up" again (that was a funny line I thought, a double entendre).

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

He (Gordon Duff) also implies that forcibly removing Obama, a Constitution-hating, on-the-down-low, crackhead Communist, is an attack on America, Mom, and apple pie. I swear these military people are worse than useless. Just look around at the condition of the country and tell me if they have fulfilled their oaths to protect the nation from all enemies foreign and domestic.
OsamaBinGoldstein posted on 2010-05-25 9:39:59 ET (2 images) Reply Trace

James Deffenbach  posted on  2010-09-16   12:31:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#79. To: abraxas, Turdle, Turtle, farmfriend, all (#74)

Balony. You buy into the history written by Europeans that forgets to pay tribute to the original sources of much knowledge. Doesn't change the fact that the ideas they claim to be original were actually not original to them.

Poor Turdle's limp grasp upon the march of history, the rise and fall of civilizations and the ages of man is truly monumental in its prodigious shallowness.

When his ancestors were scratching flea bites from the menagerie in their poorly tanned hides the Chinese were weaving silk, composing poetry, and building gardens of delight. He really should be more respectful of them - after all they taught the europeans about the wonders of bathing and that miracle of personal hygiene called, euphemistically, "wiping" after their stool.

When Turdle's ancestors were foraging for Turnips, and the odd passer by to rob, the Syrians were forging steel - thus the term Damascus Steel.

While Turdle's ancestors were huddling around the smoky fire in their thatch roofed mud daub huts India was building palaces and cities of marble and stone.

Poor Turdle. His erudition is limited to such a narrow timeline that he cannot recall or even grasp that his silly notions and febrid imaginings are a faint and insubstantial mist. The ravings of the benighted lost and wandering upon the boundless and clouded sea of his own ignorance.

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-09-17   0:57:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#80. To: Original_Intent, Turtle (#79)

When his ancestors were scratching flea bites from the menagerie in their poorly tanned hides the Chinese were weaving silk, composing poetry, and building gardens of delight.

And inventing gunpowder, glass and BBQ sauce, but what did they do with it? Nothing. It took Western Man to understand the significance of the invention and run with it.

If we lived under a "classic" Chinese system all we'd have are Buddhist Priest who wore glasses because they could and firecrackers...while we all pulled rickshaws.

Always ask yourself this question: How many flags are there on the Moon and whose are they?

There's 6 and they're all American

WWGPD? - (What Would General Pinochet Do?)

Flintlock  posted on  2010-09-17   1:30:25 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#81. To: Original_Intent, Flintlock (#80)


No Planes. Think about it. ................. Guaranteed Penetration (no it's not porn)

wudidiz  posted on  2010-09-17   1:39:26 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#82. To: Flintlock, wudidiz, abraxas, farmfriend, Turdle, Turtle, christine, HighLairEon, all (#80) (Edited)

My point is not to degrade the accomplishments of Europe and America. My point was simply that Turdle suffers from tunnel vision, parochialism, provincialism, and myopia. Outside of that his vision is spotty at best. The occasional bon mot and insight is vastly outweighed by an obstreperous and overall superficial view of the world and its peoples.

I have a somewhat broader and more expansive view of what constitutes civilized than simple technological tricks. Going to the Moon was a great accomplishment and a worthy first step toward a larger universe. However, we should have already been to Mars and back - 20 years ago. Why we haven't is another issue which I won't take up here.

However, the measure of a civilization is not simply a matter of being able to build the fanciest technology. Not that I am denigrating it or a Luddite and opposed to such but that there are other measures than "gee whizz" technology which define civilization. The ancient Greeks of the Golden Age were an advanced culture. No, they didn't go to the moon, but they gave us such as Plato, Aristotle, Pythagoras, Euclid, Anaximenes, Parmenides, Anaximander, Solon, Aeschylus, Ptolemy, Diogenes, Socrates, Homer, and on and on. They did not have electricity, flush toilets, or put a man on the moon, but they formed ideas that are still current, still talked about, pondered, and considered.

Likewise the Chinese gave us Lao Tsu, Confucius, Sun Tzu, and the Great Wall. Too many inventions to chronicle in a short post. Gun Powder was but one as they were expert craftsmen and artists as well. No, they did not invent the gun or cannon, but then they did not engage in the kind of wholesale war and conquest favored, even then, by European rulers.

India is an interesting puzzle. Here is one that amuses me greatly when the racialists go into the shallow philosophizing on how the color of their skin somehow makes them superior. Generally what they attribute to skin color is actually a function of culture and the quirk that turned Europe into a forward looking and expanding society. It was that willingness to accept, and improve upon the inventions of others that really got the ball rolling. However, I digress. The Indian people are European, or Caucasian if you wish, in ancestry. Their distant ancestors were likely as pale skinned as their European ancestors, and their language, Sanskrit and today Hindi, are Indo European languages having their roots in the theorized root language from which all European languages derive. The cities of Moenhjo Daro and Harappa had running water and public baths well over a thousand years ago. About 7 or 8 years ago another city was found, about the size of Manhattan, problem being is that it is now covered by the sea in an average of 30 or 40 feet of water and more. The problem with that is that it means that city is likely at least 5,000 years old and likely older. So, here again when one takes a deeper look at human history one finds people again who were advanced, and so long advanced, that they went into decadence, decline and dissolution when Europe was still mostly forest and populated by animal skin wearing barbarians. Not to degrade Europe, or Europeans, but I make the comparison to illustrate the contrast. From India came perhaps the greatest philosopher of the ancient world Gautama Siddhartha - called simply The Buddha.

Likewise Africa, and its peoples. We know from some ruins, and enigmas such as the Great Zimbabwe, that Africa has as well has known the rise from barbarism, to growth, civilization, decadence, decline, and dissolution. Intriguing are the ruins rumored to be in the desert areas of Southern Africa where the ruins are so ancient that they are now mostly dust with occasionally the odd fragment surfacing from the sand and chronicled by some passer by. There hints and shapes and hints of shapes all suggestive of a once substantial civilization now long gone.

And so as a student of history and of civilizations I have a somewhat different perspective than bucktoothed, hillbilly pseudo intellectuals and and their collections of huckster quotes, assumptions, and a superiority complex born of ignorance such as evidenced in the estimable Mr. Turdle.

Mankind has been on this planet a long time. All races at one time or another have known civilization, and some of them quite high. It is an interesting conundrum to watch and elucidate the "reasoning" of those who insist upon interpreting superficialities, such as skin color as somehow reflecting the inner essence, or spirit, which is man. To buy into that one first has to buy into the materialist view that you are meat, that you are a sack of chemicals and water and that the interaction of those chemical reactions determines who and what you are. That is a very limited view of man. Since this post is already a little over long and it would take as much again to justify the point of view let me just state it simply for your consideration. For many many centuries disappearing into the dim and unrecorded past man has had the conception of himself, and that is in the inclusive sense including women, as a spiritual being i.e., the recognition that he was not merely his body and a mobile sack of meat. That spirit has been given many and varied names, soul, spirit, essence, or as Bergson put it the "Force Vitale" or life force which is what truly animates and gives light to that sack of mobile meat. That "Force Vitale" is the separate and distinct entity which is you, me, your neighbor, and the kid down the street. In other words there is that essence which is the person and not their body, not their skin color, their eyes, or anything else of the physical realm. All theories of racialism are basically materialism which denies that there is anything other than gross physical matter. And the concept that man is nothing more than a stimulus response piece of meat has no support in science, although its supporters try to pretend there is, but there is no Psychiatrist or Psychologist who can point at anything representing definitive proof that you are nothing more than meat. The upshot is that you ARE your own immortal soul, that which thinks, wonders, loves, and hates. And that soul, or life force which is you is not your body. Thus we can conclude, quite reasonably, that outward physical appearance may reflect the inner life force but it does not define it, rather it is exactly the opposite. From there we can also reach that skin color is nothing, nothing that defines the inner being. Sting got it right: We are spirits in the material world.

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-09-17   2:51:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#83. To: wudidiz (#81)

Sadly, there is no small amount of truth in that. Although one can adapt the concept to other types of parochialism. I once saw a reproduction of a parody map distributed by the local power company representing the New Yorker view of the United States. Much the same concept, and just as funny/unfunny true.

I found part of a reproduction of it here.

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-09-17   3:08:30 ET  (2 images) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#84. To: Original_Intent, *Post Of The Day* (#82)

Enjoyable. I feel smarter just from reading that.


No Planes. Think about it. ................. Guaranteed Penetration (no it's not porn)

wudidiz  posted on  2010-09-17   4:01:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#85. To: Flintlock, All (#80)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-09-17   8:33:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#86. To: Eric Stratton (#85)

If anything, 9/11 should reintroduce to the masses the notion that we never went to the moon.

Apples and oranges. Equating the two would be yet another very effective way of making truthers look silly.

They left laser reflectors there that astronomers use routinely.

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The second dumbest creature on the face of the earth is the one who cannot recognize its enemies. The most stupid of all is the one who will defend and collaborate with the very enemies that are destroying it and its own kind. -Ben Klassen

PSUSA  posted on  2010-09-17   8:47:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#87. To: Original_Intent (#82)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-09-17   8:59:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#88. To: PSUSA (#86)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-09-17   9:06:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#89. To: PSUSA (#86)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-09-17   9:06:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#90. To: PSUSA (#86)

They left laser reflectors there that astronomers use routinely.

And all the professionals and amateurs who tracked the spacecraft with telescopes.

"Society is, always has been and always will be a structure for the exploitation and oppression of the majority through systems of political force dictated by an élite, enforced by thugs, uniformed or not, and upheld by a willful ignorance and stupidity on the part of the very majority whom the system oppresses." -- Richard K. Morgan

Turtle  posted on  2010-09-17   10:49:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#91. To: Original_Intent (#82)

Likewise Africa, and its peoples. We know from some ruins, and enigmas such as the Great Zimbabwe,

I think you're reaching here. (Great?) Zimbabwe ruins is a disorganized pile of rocks of a once minor trading center. Nothing great about it or the people who built it.

Intriguing are the ruins rumored to be in the desert areas of Southern Africa where the ruins are so ancient that they are now mostly dust with occasionally the odd fragment surfacing from the sand and chronicled by some passer by. There hints and shapes and hints of shapes all suggestive of a once substantial civilization now long gone.

Rumored is the key word here and if ever found will most likely be of Sumerian origin

Gotta run, I'm having minor technical problems with one of America's greatest inventions (besides Thermonuclear weapons, the computer, internet, steamship, airplane, machine gun, ram-air parachute, antibiotics, compound bow, hula hoop and Chili)

The American Motorcycle.

WWGPD? - (What Would General Pinochet Do?)

Flintlock  posted on  2010-09-17   10:57:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#92. To: Flintlock (#91)

Is there anyone on the forum who can tell me why and how these once great civilizations turned to shit? The remnants of the Incas & Mayans are now mostly members of MS-13, while the residents of the Dark Continent seemingly haven't been capable of forming a workable government for countless centuries. The great Grecian culture is now an oil spot on history, with Rome and US not far behind. My point is when one looks back to the wonders of what was, make sure you avoid the shit pile of what is.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2010-09-17   11:08:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#93. To: Flintlock (#91)

(Great?) Zimbabwe ruins

Those ruins look almost exactly like Indian temples and are thought to have been built by Asian Indians mining gold.

"Society is, always has been and always will be a structure for the exploitation and oppression of the majority through systems of political force dictated by an élite, enforced by thugs, uniformed or not, and upheld by a willful ignorance and stupidity on the part of the very majority whom the system oppresses." -- Richard K. Morgan

Turtle  posted on  2010-09-17   11:08:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#94. To: Jethro Tull (#92) (Edited)

They weren't just civilizations. They were empires. Empires rise and fall. The one constant is that whites rebuild after the fall and retain their cultures. Until they try to gain an empire again, and start the cycle anew.

Or they have their cultures destroyed from within by bringing in other cultures, like Rome did, and like we're doing.

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PSUSA  posted on  2010-09-17   11:15:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#95. To: PSUSA (#86)

...Space may be the final frontier
But it's made in a Hollywood basement...

Lyrics from Californication by the Red Hot Chili Peppers

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

He (Gordon Duff) also implies that forcibly removing Obama, a Constitution-hating, on-the-down-low, crackhead Communist, is an attack on America, Mom, and apple pie. I swear these military people are worse than useless. Just look around at the condition of the country and tell me if they have fulfilled their oaths to protect the nation from all enemies foreign and domestic.
OsamaBinGoldstein posted on 2010-05-25 9:39:59 ET (2 images) Reply Trace

James Deffenbach  posted on  2010-09-17   11:18:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#96. To: Jethro Tull (#92)

Is there anyone on the forum who can tell me why and how these once great civilizations turned to shit? The remnants of the Incas & Mayans are now mostly members of MS-13,

I can't tell you.

But, as someone who has been to and personally examined most Mayan and Inca ruins, I can attest that the current inhabitants of the areas are incapable of adding 50 + 50 without a calculator. How they acted above the capacity of "power tools" in their construction is totally unbelievable.

WWGPD? - (What Would General Pinochet Do?)

Flintlock  posted on  2010-09-17   11:54:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#97. To: Eric Stratton (#87)

And so as a student of history and of civilizations I have a somewhat different perspective than bucktoothed, hillbilly pseudo intellectuals and and their collections of huckster quotes, assumptions, and a superiority complex born of ignorance such as evidenced in the estimable Mr. Turdle.

There is a retired nutcase who is a library rat. All he can talk about are ancient civilizations, how entire cities are under Anartic ice, Atlantis really existed, etc. He has no idea he is as boring as hell.

Probably much like O_I.

"Society is, always has been and always will be a structure for the exploitation and oppression of the majority through systems of political force dictated by an élite, enforced by thugs, uniformed or not, and upheld by a willful ignorance and stupidity on the part of the very majority whom the system oppresses." -- Richard K. Morgan

Turtle  posted on  2010-09-17   11:56:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#98. To: PSUSA (#94)

The one constant is that whites rebuild after the fall and retain their cultures.

Hence the global forced integration of white civilizations. Is it too far fetched that some one group fears the rebirth of a white nationalistic nation?

Jethro Tull  posted on  2010-09-17   11:58:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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