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Title: A Hatemail Turtle Got
Source: Email
URL Source: [None]
Published: Sep 15, 2010
Author: Somebody
Post Date: 2010-09-15 11:14:55 by Turtle
Keywords: None
Views: 4549
Comments: 134

Dear Bob Wallace,

Just so you know, many of us supposedly "lesser-intelligent" Blacks (or Afro-Americans, or whatever) actually are demonstrably intelligent despite your desperate attempts to portray and/or describe us to the contrary.

I myself currently hold TWO Master's degrees (one of which is an MA in "Communications in Contemporary Society" from the Johns Hopkins University). Obviously, your overly simplistic, preconceived, and ridiculous notions of Black people must reflect an extremely limited exposure (or lack thereof); so I'll cut you some slack.

However, in the future, while deeply engrossed in composing the next installment of your baseless, racist diatribes, do try to "wrap" your superior European brain around the very real fact that not all Blacks are stupid, mentally challenged and/or incapable of serious intellectual debate. After all, I frequently read White Nationalist/Supremacist websites for unorthodox (and in your case, preposterous) viewpoints. In short: GROW THE F%*K UP!!

Sincerely,

"Blaqbuck" M.S.L.S./M.A.

P.S. Yeah, you guessed it genius, the above name's a pseudonym (just like yours Bob "yeah, right" Wallace)... See, us Blacks can use smart words, too. Idiot!


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#1. To: Turtle (#0)

See, us Blacks can use smart words, too.

He fucked himself up right there.

It should have been "we" niggers. This is something a oh-so-highly educated nigger would know.

He's the idiot.

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PSUSA  posted on  2010-09-15   11:25:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Turtle (#0)

...us can use smart words, too. bump

Lod  posted on  2010-09-15   11:25:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: PSUSA (#1)

I don't know if the author is telling me the truth about his education. If true, it could be a Michelle Obama thing -- lowered standards, basically given the degrees (and they're not real degrees anyway) then given a make-work job.

"Society is, always has been and always will be a structure for the exploitation and oppression of the majority through systems of political force dictated by an élite, enforced by thugs, uniformed or not, and upheld by a willful ignorance and stupidity on the part of the very majority whom the system oppresses." -- Richard K. Morgan

Turtle  posted on  2010-09-15   11:28:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Cynicom, farmfriend, abraxas (#0)

All of you should enjoy Turtle being slapped around.

"Society is, always has been and always will be a structure for the exploitation and oppression of the majority through systems of political force dictated by an élite, enforced by thugs, uniformed or not, and upheld by a willful ignorance and stupidity on the part of the very majority whom the system oppresses." -- Richard K. Morgan

Turtle  posted on  2010-09-15   11:30:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Turtle (#0)

not all Blacks are stupid, mentally challenged and/or incapable of serious intellectual debate.

Just the author.

“Ask any Indian nation how it preserves itself. It isn’t by letting anyone and everyone claim to be Indian. There are exceptions, but they are not the rule.” -- Eric Holder

Prefrontal Vortex  posted on  2010-09-15   11:38:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Turtle (#4)

All of you should enjoy Turtle being slapped around.

Actually, this is not true Bob. What we really want, is to see you boiling in a turtle soup.... with fresh condiments added, of course.

"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET

buckeroo  posted on  2010-09-15   11:39:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Turtle (#0)

one of which is an MA in "Communications in Contemporary Society" from the Johns Hopkins University

I believe it.

“Ask any Indian nation how it preserves itself. It isn’t by letting anyone and everyone claim to be Indian. There are exceptions, but they are not the rule.” -- Eric Holder

Prefrontal Vortex  posted on  2010-09-15   11:39:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: buckeroo (#6)

Actually, this is not true Bob. What we really want, is to see you boiling in a turtle soup.... with fresh condiments added, of course.

You're not going to be Raptured now, you know.

"Society is, always has been and always will be a structure for the exploitation and oppression of the majority through systems of political force dictated by an élite, enforced by thugs, uniformed or not, and upheld by a willful ignorance and stupidity on the part of the very majority whom the system oppresses." -- Richard K. Morgan

Turtle  posted on  2010-09-15   11:41:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Prefrontal Vortex (#7)

one of which is an MA in "Communications in Contemporary Society" from the Johns Hopkins University

I believe it.

It's not a real degree. I want to see a black with a Ph.D. in Physics or Math.

"Society is, always has been and always will be a structure for the exploitation and oppression of the majority through systems of political force dictated by an élite, enforced by thugs, uniformed or not, and upheld by a willful ignorance and stupidity on the part of the very majority whom the system oppresses." -- Richard K. Morgan

Turtle  posted on  2010-09-15   11:42:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: PSUSA (#1)

lol

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gengis gandhi  posted on  2010-09-15   11:58:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Turtle (#9)

communications in contemporary society=ebonics/jive

just sayin'

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gengis gandhi  posted on  2010-09-15   11:59:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Turtle, abraxas, Original_Intent (#4)

I think it is pointless to discuss white vs blacks in the US. It is a false comparison since genetic mixing has taken place. This is assuming that genetics plays a role in intelligence. I believe it does.


"Every Person born within the limits of the United States, and subject to their jurisdiction, is by virtue of natural law and national law a citizen of the United States. This will not, of course, include persons born in the United States who are foreigners, aliens, who belong to the families of ambassadors or foreign ministers accredited to the Government of the United States, but will include every other class of persons.
Senator Jacob Howard, Co-author of the citizenship clause of the 14th Amendment, 1866.

farmfriend  posted on  2010-09-15   12:03:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: farmfriend (#12)

genetic mixing has taken place

The average African IQ is about 70. In the U.S. it's 85, mostly because many of them have some white ancestry.

Before the days of PC, an IQ of 85 was on the border of dull normal and moron.

"Society is, always has been and always will be a structure for the exploitation and oppression of the majority through systems of political force dictated by an élite, enforced by thugs, uniformed or not, and upheld by a willful ignorance and stupidity on the part of the very majority whom the system oppresses." -- Richard K. Morgan

Turtle  posted on  2010-09-15   12:07:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Turtle (#4)

you should enjoy Turtle being slapped around.

The joy is when Turtle is tasting the back of MY hand, not some other hand. : )

"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations

abraxas  posted on  2010-09-15   12:15:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: abraxas (#14)

The joy is when Turtle is tasting the back of MY hand, not some other hand. : )

I'm about a foot taller than you.

Abraxas (jumping up in the air): "Turtle! Get down here so I can hit you!"

Turtle (snickering): "Did you say something? I heard a noise down near my ankles."

"Society is, always has been and always will be a structure for the exploitation and oppression of the majority through systems of political force dictated by an élite, enforced by thugs, uniformed or not, and upheld by a willful ignorance and stupidity on the part of the very majority whom the system oppresses." -- Richard K. Morgan

Turtle  posted on  2010-09-15   12:18:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Turtle (#9)

I want to see a black with a Ph.D. in Physics or Math.

Neil deGrasse Tyson has a Ph.D. degree in astrophysics.

You can see him right now--

"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations

abraxas  posted on  2010-09-15   12:19:20 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: abraxas (#16)

Interesting he's fairly light-skinned and has mostly white features.

I want to see one who looks like O.J. Simpson or Joe Frazier.

"Society is, always has been and always will be a structure for the exploitation and oppression of the majority through systems of political force dictated by an élite, enforced by thugs, uniformed or not, and upheld by a willful ignorance and stupidity on the part of the very majority whom the system oppresses." -- Richard K. Morgan

Turtle  posted on  2010-09-15   12:21:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Turtle (#17)

Okay, here is Sylvester James Gates, theoretical physics Phd.

"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations

abraxas  posted on  2010-09-15   12:38:38 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: abraxas (#18)

And both made it in America, created and founded by whites. For that matter, math and physics were created by whites.

Without white people, Africa would be permanently in 20,000 B.C.

Both these guys should thank God their ancestors were taken as slaves from Africa and that they were born in the U.S.

"Society is, always has been and always will be a structure for the exploitation and oppression of the majority through systems of political force dictated by an élite, enforced by thugs, uniformed or not, and upheld by a willful ignorance and stupidity on the part of the very majority whom the system oppresses." -- Richard K. Morgan

Turtle  posted on  2010-09-15   12:45:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: farmfriend, abraxas, Turdle, Turtle, all (#12)

I think it is pointless to discuss white vs blacks in the US. It is a false comparison since genetic mixing has taken place. This is assuming that genetics plays a role in intelligence. I believe it does.

I don't but that is a different debate.

The bottom line is that Turdle and the other "I'm sapeeriur" crowd do not like facts. They make their heads hurt.

I.Q. tests are as much a reflection of literacy levels as they are of actual intelligence. The more literate a person is i.e., the larger the clearly understood vocabulary, all other things being equal, the person with the larger vocabulary will outscore the other every time, and this has nothing to do with "suntan".

Historically, blacks in America have had a lower literacy level than whites. That is not a criticism per se but simply the observation of a fact. There are, and have been, notable exceptions, Frederic Douglas, Booker T. Washington, Thomas Sowell, etc., ... However, in the main, blacks from the Civil War until present time have received poorer quality education on average than whites. Black Public Schools, during segregation, received the cast-off books from white schools and their teachers generally were not as well educated. And this carried on into Black Only Colleges where students entering, already of lesser literacy, received a competent but not exceptional education.

Fast forwarding to the Civil Rights era, black education levels were in the upswing. More were going to College, and the general literacy level, thanks no small part to Black Churches, was increasing. This resulted in greater awareness of just how put upon black Americans were. The higher the education, again generally, the greater the awareness.

With the advent of Civil unrest, beginning in the 1950's, the power structure was presented with a problem. (This was not limited to the black community but as evidenced by Campus unrest at White Colleges and Universities it extended across the color line but the White unrest was over other issues such as the recently ended Korean War and the incipient Vietnam War.) The problem was that with rising levels of black literacy and independence here was a group that was creating an uncomfortable shake up of the social order. Since the proponents of racial sapeeriority are represented in government, intelligence agency, corridors the leadership was made uncomfortable by this upset to their planned system. Intelligent well educated blacks did not fit the template.

The result was to infiltrate, discredit, and disperse the Civil Rights movement through CoInTelPro and other programs. The FBI and J. Edgar Hoover (who was a closet very light skinned black himself - likely why he never married as children very likely would have been black) were the primary vehicle but the CIA was involved as well (The "Black Panther Coloring Book" was a CIA project).

With the ascension of LBJ to office following the actively pro-civil rights Kennedy the program to continue to undermine the Civil Rights movement and geld the black community swung into full gear under the rubric of the "Great Society" which is best understood as a program to break up nuclear families, particularly in but not limited to, the black community. Poor, but intact, families were generally not eligible for the hand out programs but single women with children were. Thus broken families were rewarded i.e., given money and intact families were not. What you reward you get more of, and so black illegitimacy then at about 30% and 70% in intact nuclear families has now virtually completely reversed.

With the planting of various self destructive memes in the black community notably that getting educated and learning standard english is "acting white" and thus to be avoided illiteracy was further encouraged. There is a lot more to it but I'm not currently inclined to spend another hour fleshing it out.

The upshot is that the general education and literacy level in the black community, a created situation, results in lower I.Q. scores, but not for lack of intelligence but for lack of literacy.

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-09-15   12:47:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Lod (#2)

...us can use smart words, too. bump

Yes, Lawdy, and us does summmmmtiiiimes!!! ahaha.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

He (Gordon Duff) also implies that forcibly removing Obama, a Constitution-hating, on-the-down-low, crackhead Communist, is an attack on America, Mom, and apple pie. I swear these military people are worse than useless. Just look around at the condition of the country and tell me if they have fulfilled their oaths to protect the nation from all enemies foreign and domestic.
OsamaBinGoldstein posted on 2010-05-25 9:39:59 ET (2 images) Reply Trace

James Deffenbach  posted on  2010-09-15   12:47:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Turtle (#4)

All of you should enjoy Turtle being slapped around.

Why didn't you ping me? I enjoyed it immensely. Us all did, lol!

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

He (Gordon Duff) also implies that forcibly removing Obama, a Constitution-hating, on-the-down-low, crackhead Communist, is an attack on America, Mom, and apple pie. I swear these military people are worse than useless. Just look around at the condition of the country and tell me if they have fulfilled their oaths to protect the nation from all enemies foreign and domestic.
OsamaBinGoldstein posted on 2010-05-25 9:39:59 ET (2 images) Reply Trace

James Deffenbach  posted on  2010-09-15   12:48:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Original_Intent (#20) (Edited)

The bottom line is that Turdle and the other "I'm sapeeriur" crowd do not like facts. They make their heads hurt.

The federal government has spent over a trillion dollars trying to raise blacks' IQs since the Sixites. It has failed utterly.

The first people who encountered Africans were Arabs. One wrote they had "defective brains."

You of course live with blacks in ghetto? Of course not. You're a mealy-mouthed hypocrite who can't handle the truth.

"Society is, always has been and always will be a structure for the exploitation and oppression of the majority through systems of political force dictated by an élite, enforced by thugs, uniformed or not, and upheld by a willful ignorance and stupidity on the part of the very majority whom the system oppresses." -- Richard K. Morgan

Turtle  posted on  2010-09-15   12:52:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Original_Intent (#20)

There are, and have been, notable exceptions, Frederic Douglas, Booker T. Washington, Thomas Sowell, etc., ...

Walter Williams. Economics professor and a brilliant man.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

He (Gordon Duff) also implies that forcibly removing Obama, a Constitution-hating, on-the-down-low, crackhead Communist, is an attack on America, Mom, and apple pie. I swear these military people are worse than useless. Just look around at the condition of the country and tell me if they have fulfilled their oaths to protect the nation from all enemies foreign and domestic.
OsamaBinGoldstein posted on 2010-05-25 9:39:59 ET (2 images) Reply Trace

James Deffenbach  posted on  2010-09-15   12:53:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Original_Intent, abraxas, Turtle, (#20)

As usual, I agree with you however it doesn't change my mind that there is a genetic component to intelligence. I don't belive IQ tests measure intelligence well.


"Every Person born within the limits of the United States, and subject to their jurisdiction, is by virtue of natural law and national law a citizen of the United States. This will not, of course, include persons born in the United States who are foreigners, aliens, who belong to the families of ambassadors or foreign ministers accredited to the Government of the United States, but will include every other class of persons.
Senator Jacob Howard, Co-author of the citizenship clause of the 14th Amendment, 1866.

farmfriend  posted on  2010-09-15   13:06:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Turdle, Turtle, farmfriend, abraxas, all (#23)

The federal government has spent over a trillion dollars trying to raise blacks' IQs since the Sixites. It has failed utterly.

Actually that is not true.

They have spent a considerable amount of money prentending to try while other programs acted to continue to degrade the scene.

By definition a program that has the opposite effect or no effect is either incompetently administered or is not what it seems.

Of course the Arab Slavers are authorities on genetics and I.Q.. /Sarcasm

You of course live with blacks in ghetto? Of course not. You're a mealy-mouthed hypocrite who can't handle the truth.

I live in a neighborhood that has a total of "1" black family. The head of the family probably makes more than half of the neighborhood combined running a business. So far you are batting a 1,000 as far as all your guesses about me. That's fine though as it is not much different from your other erroneous conclusions.

Further, the truth you can't handle is that your structure, your world view, would be totally upset by accepting the truth that we live in a highly programmed and manipulated society and that the Psychotic Psychiatrists employed by our corrupt government have been all too successful in their job as social termites wrecking the culture. It would just upset that size 12 ego in your size 9 soul to have to accept that their might be "niggers" brighter than you. Deal with it, there are.

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-09-15   13:07:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Turtle (#23)

The federal government has spent over a trillion dollars trying to raise blacks' IQs since the Sixites. It has failed utterly.

The federal government fails at many things. That is inherent in its nature. I didn't realize you were such a believer in it.

Democrats don't mind war as long as they can have big government. Republicans don't mind big government as long as they can have war.

PnbC  posted on  2010-09-15   13:07:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: Turtle (#19) (Edited)

math and physics were created by whites.

No, they were not.

The zero which makes much of the mathmatics and physics of today possible, didn't come from whitie. Indians were the first to bring up the idea of using "nothing" as a number. It was then adopted by the Arabs, who developed on it as a mathemical subject itself. Theoretical physics would be nowhere without the Indians.

"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations

abraxas  posted on  2010-09-15   13:11:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: abraxas (#28)

Whitie came on the scene and broke ground after having access to Vedic knowledge. Whitie had great advances only after the printing press, while

Looks like you got cut off, but I do agree with your thesis. Just one minor correction Sanskrit is an Indo-European language and the Indian people, although now mixed, are of Indo-European stock dating back thousands of years. In other words they are dark skinned whites whose ancestors thousands of years ago probably had skin tone much the same as other European groups. By selective adaptation to their climate, and the infusion of other genetic lines, they have become darker over the aeons but are nevertheless basically just dark white. ;-)

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-09-15   13:19:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Original_Intent (#29)

I tried to add on the cut off text, then it cut off even more.......

"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations

abraxas  posted on  2010-09-15   13:20:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Original_Intent (#29)

Sheesh, whitie claimed to have "discovered" Neptune in 1846......lol. The vedics and even the Mayans knew long before this major discovering, but history will ignore that little fact.

"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations

abraxas  posted on  2010-09-15   13:25:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Turtle, all (#17)

Interesting he's fairly light-skinned and has mostly white features.

I want to see one who looks like O.J. Simpson or Joe Frazier.

I love it when people come up with exceptions. They don't realize that this is what they are; exceptions.

Some call them "magic niggers" or "high yellow niggers" en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_yellow. The high yellow subspecies have white DNA in them. IIRC, most niggers here have about 1/4 human DNA. It surprised me that this was so high, since the thought of having sex with a nigger would make me throw up things that I ate last month.

If niggers were equal to Asians or Whites, there would be a Zulu space program. As it is now, they can't even comprehend how to build a glider. Trying to explain to them how an airfoil works would be the ultimate exercise in futility.

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PSUSA  posted on  2010-09-15   13:51:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: abraxas (#31)

Sheesh, whitie claimed to have "discovered" Neptune in 1846......lol. The vedics and even the Mayans knew long before this major discovering, but history will ignore that little fact.

The chief attribute of late Middle Ages and Renaissance Europe was its willingness to accept and expand on knowledge gained from other cultures - particularly the Arabs and Chinese. It took them from scratching flea bites to, well, uh, bathing.

Of course trying to tell that to the typical redneck intalekt full of misconceptions, ignernce etc., ... is almost amusing were it not so sad. Generally you get one of two reactions - a glazed expression, or rejection as something that kudunt posiblee be true cuzn' it weren't in their histry buuk.

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-09-15   13:53:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: PSUSA (#32)

Trying to explain to them how an airfoil works would be the ultimate exercise in futility.

We wuz flyin' 'round da Pyra-mids o' Egypt, foo!!!

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X-15  posted on  2010-09-15   14:02:32 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: PSUSA (#32)

Zulu space program.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

He (Gordon Duff) also implies that forcibly removing Obama, a Constitution-hating, on-the-down-low, crackhead Communist, is an attack on America, Mom, and apple pie. I swear these military people are worse than useless. Just look around at the condition of the country and tell me if they have fulfilled their oaths to protect the nation from all enemies foreign and domestic.
OsamaBinGoldstein posted on 2010-05-25 9:39:59 ET (2 images) Reply Trace

James Deffenbach  posted on  2010-09-15   14:05:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: James Deffenbach (#35)

Hahaha!!! "1957/58...."Suitcase" Jefferson...a film NOT by Ken Burns..."space is one cold motherfucker".

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"This man is Jesus,” shouted one man, spilling his Guinness as Barack Obama began his inaugural address. “When will he come to Kenya to save us?"

“The best and first guarantor of our neutrality and our independent existence is the defensive will of the people…and the proverbial marksmanship of the Swiss shooter. Each soldier a good marksman! Each shot a hit!”
-Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941

X-15  posted on  2010-09-15   14:12:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: X-15 (#36)

It was a different time back then...1957/58...

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

He (Gordon Duff) also implies that forcibly removing Obama, a Constitution-hating, on-the-down-low, crackhead Communist, is an attack on America, Mom, and apple pie. I swear these military people are worse than useless. Just look around at the condition of the country and tell me if they have fulfilled their oaths to protect the nation from all enemies foreign and domestic.
OsamaBinGoldstein posted on 2010-05-25 9:39:59 ET (2 images) Reply Trace

James Deffenbach  posted on  2010-09-15   14:14:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: X-15 (#34)

We wuz flyin' 'round da Pyra-mids o' Egypt, foo!!!

That's one of the more ridiculous pics out there. I heard that the blades actually revolved. Dont know if thats true or not, but it is something a nigger would do to get attention.

Yeah, they built those too... LOL! Dey beez 'gyptians, an chaneeze www.youtube.com/watch?v=p...Y&feature=player_embedded 'n injuns www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sttg1A5Ncfs&feature=related 'n sheet muhfuggah!

Here is as close to a space program that they will ever get:


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The second dumbest creature on the face of the earth is the one who cannot recognize its enemies. The most stupid of all is the one who will defend and collaborate with the very enemies that are destroying it and its own kind. -Ben Klassen

PSUSA  posted on  2010-09-15   14:16:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: X-15 (#34)

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

He (Gordon Duff) also implies that forcibly removing Obama, a Constitution-hating, on-the-down-low, crackhead Communist, is an attack on America, Mom, and apple pie. I swear these military people are worse than useless. Just look around at the condition of the country and tell me if they have fulfilled their oaths to protect the nation from all enemies foreign and domestic.
OsamaBinGoldstein posted on 2010-05-25 9:39:59 ET (2 images) Reply Trace

James Deffenbach  posted on  2010-09-15   14:48:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: James Deffenbach (#35)

Blackstronauts? LMAO!

That "professor" of black studies reminds me of O_I.

This is one of the funniest vids I've seen in a while.

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Click for Privacy and Preparedness files

The second dumbest creature on the face of the earth is the one who cannot recognize its enemies. The most stupid of all is the one who will defend and collaborate with the very enemies that are destroying it and its own kind. -Ben Klassen

PSUSA  posted on  2010-09-15   14:51:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: PSUSA (#40)

Always remember never to sass anyone flying a "Burring MD 40-40 whisper jet." LOL!

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

He (Gordon Duff) also implies that forcibly removing Obama, a Constitution-hating, on-the-down-low, crackhead Communist, is an attack on America, Mom, and apple pie. I swear these military people are worse than useless. Just look around at the condition of the country and tell me if they have fulfilled their oaths to protect the nation from all enemies foreign and domestic.
OsamaBinGoldstein posted on 2010-05-25 9:39:59 ET (2 images) Reply Trace

James Deffenbach  posted on  2010-09-15   14:58:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: Turtle (#0)

There is nothing inferior about the intelligence of blacks. When you judge people by race, you are always wrong.
Many of the smartest people I know are blacks, and I know many stupid whites. Should I project that onto both races?
I have a black coworker (grew up in Africa, educated in America) who can out-think anyone on this forum.
If you judge him by his race, who's the fool?
Are Thomas Sowell, Walter Williams, and Clarence Thomas, inferior?
I can list more if needed...

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"Somewhere, something incredible is waiting to be known."
-Carl Sagan.

Armadillo  posted on  2010-09-15   20:22:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: Turtle (#9)

one of which is an MA in "Communications in Contemporary Society" from the Johns Hopkins University

This could be a degree in Ebonics.

"Yo, can yew shorties watch mah blades for a minnit? I gots to beat up mah heffa fo holdin' out!....

...Yeah, dem spinners on mah Caddylade cost me foaty dollars and a hot glock 9!"

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2010-09-15   21:08:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: farmfriend, 4 (#25)

I don't believe IQ tests measure intelligence well.

Of course they don't.

Lod  posted on  2010-09-15   21:09:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: Armadillo (#42) (Edited)

There is nothing inferior about the intelligence of blacks.

William Shockley and Charles Murray have proven otherwise.

There is simply no scientific method that has ever validated your assertions, which seem to be the obvious fawning affection of a negrophile.

Also, most American blacks (and many in Africa) have European Caucasian blood, the result of which is greater intelligence.

Pure black Africans had never built a shelter that would last past the first rainstorm and in a land swarming with docile beasts they had never dreamed of a plow. (forget about medical/scientific breakthroughs for the betterment of mankind. Their greatest contribution seems to be the machete and AK47 raids against those they perceive as weaker if not completely defenseless. And what about the documented cannibalism in the Congo by govt militia preying on Mbuti pygmies or the uniquely African belief that the rape of infant virgins will cure AIDS?)

No, like it or not culture is a measure of intelligence.

And, I think it's more likely that you measure intelligence by how much you quiver in the presence of a race that you've fetishized for reasons I dare not speculate about and you dare not reveal.

If Africa was white the Sahara Desert would be the home of The Sahara Gardens Agricultural University, amusement/water parks, health retreats and retirement and condominium communities, airports and flying clubs.

And instead of starving between aid shipments whites would be feeding the world just as they do now.

(How silly of me to use the perpetual need for food and ways to meet the demand as a measure of intelligence. I must be thinking white, huh?)

Since 1900 and the introduction of western medicine and agriculture Africans have proven that "dey sho can makes dem babies" even if they can't feed them. The population of Africa has increased by a ten factor and still they starve even as the eat termites....and ironically, thanks to whites Africa's greatly decreased infant mortality rate may ultimately relieve their perpetual war on hunger....

But, their space program? How about advances in fish farming? How about mosquito control?

"Hey white man, you measure intelligence your way and I'll measure it mine!"__Armadillo

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2010-09-15   21:58:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: farmfriend (#25)

As usual, I agree with you however it doesn't change my mind that there is a genetic component to intelligence. I don't believe IQ tests measure intelligence well.

I agree with the first and I'm open to the second.

Is there an accurate way to measure intelligence "well"? If so would you please share with your ol' friend puppy?

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2010-09-15   22:01:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: HOUNDDAWG (#46)

Is there an accurate way to measure intelligence "well"? If so would you please share with your ol' friend puppy?

Other than judging for yourself? None that I know of.


"Every Person born within the limits of the United States, and subject to their jurisdiction, is by virtue of natural law and national law a citizen of the United States. This will not, of course, include persons born in the United States who are foreigners, aliens, who belong to the families of ambassadors or foreign ministers accredited to the Government of the United States, but will include every other class of persons.
Senator Jacob Howard, Co-author of the citizenship clause of the 14th Amendment, 1866.

farmfriend  posted on  2010-09-15   22:03:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: HOUNDDAWG, Original_Intent, Armadillo (#45)

Pure black Africans had never built a shelter that would last past the first rainstorm and in a land swarming with docile beasts they had never dreamed of a plow.

Not sure I agree with that. Pinging OI since his knowledge of archeology is greater than mine. How would you explain the Great Zimbabwe and the pyramids of Ethiopia? As far as I know they were all built by true blacks.


"Every Person born within the limits of the United States, and subject to their jurisdiction, is by virtue of natural law and national law a citizen of the United States. This will not, of course, include persons born in the United States who are foreigners, aliens, who belong to the families of ambassadors or foreign ministers accredited to the Government of the United States, but will include every other class of persons.
Senator Jacob Howard, Co-author of the citizenship clause of the 14th Amendment, 1866.

farmfriend  posted on  2010-09-15   22:09:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: farmfriend (#48)

true blacks

I am glad you brought forward some of the concepts and characteristics that some women have acclaimed about myself. In a sense, I am a "true black" ... I have to disguise my lower body parts however until I feel confident to reveal the truth behind closed doors, sometimes the shock for women is too much to bear.

"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET

buckeroo  posted on  2010-09-15   22:25:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: buckeroo (#49)

LOL I don't shock easy!


"Every Person born within the limits of the United States, and subject to their jurisdiction, is by virtue of natural law and national law a citizen of the United States. This will not, of course, include persons born in the United States who are foreigners, aliens, who belong to the families of ambassadors or foreign ministers accredited to the Government of the United States, but will include every other class of persons.
Senator Jacob Howard, Co-author of the citizenship clause of the 14th Amendment, 1866.

farmfriend  posted on  2010-09-15   22:30:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: farmfriend (#50)

I just don't enjoy women pointing at me with wild, starry eyes while gasping simultaneously. I am not a freak.

"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET

buckeroo  posted on  2010-09-15   22:35:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: Armadillo (#42)

I have a black coworker (grew up in Africa, educated in America) who can out-think anyone on this forum.

That's possible but there is no way you could know that.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

He (Gordon Duff) also implies that forcibly removing Obama, a Constitution-hating, on-the-down-low, crackhead Communist, is an attack on America, Mom, and apple pie. I swear these military people are worse than useless. Just look around at the condition of the country and tell me if they have fulfilled their oaths to protect the nation from all enemies foreign and domestic.
OsamaBinGoldstein posted on 2010-05-25 9:39:59 ET (2 images) Reply Trace

James Deffenbach  posted on  2010-09-15   22:35:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: buckeroo (#51)

I just don't enjoy women pointing at me with wild, starry eyes while gasping simultaneously. I am not a freak.

I wouldn't point. Too many other things that one can do. You know, to show appreciation.


"Every Person born within the limits of the United States, and subject to their jurisdiction, is by virtue of natural law and national law a citizen of the United States. This will not, of course, include persons born in the United States who are foreigners, aliens, who belong to the families of ambassadors or foreign ministers accredited to the Government of the United States, but will include every other class of persons.
Senator Jacob Howard, Co-author of the citizenship clause of the 14th Amendment, 1866.

farmfriend  posted on  2010-09-15   22:40:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: farmfriend (#47)

Other than judging for yourself? None that I know of.

SO, you'd replace a useful if not perfect tool with a completely meaningless standard? Is this the result of someone you love not testing well? Remember, that could be a reading comprehension problem and that or dyslexia for example are not indicative of low intelligence or poor aptitude. (Jose Feliciano, Stevie Wonder and Ray Charles never read a lick of music) In my case I tested well in writing but one on one I was so nervous as a kid that I'd almost faint out of fear of failure. This was the result of an absurd home life as a child, (an older half bro who beat me like a Salvation Army drum) And, teachers and those to whom I was referred tried to find the problem, but they had no chance of ever learning the horrible truth.

"Assessing aptitude is very difficult.

Aptitude refers to a person's native ability to perform the task or tasks. Each of us has strengths and weaknesses that determine if we can learn or perform a task. Poor aptitude for a task could mean that the person could never learn how to do it, even with all the supports in the world.

Even the simplest responsibilities require skills. Skills differ from aptitudes in that they can be learned, up to the limits imposed by aptitude. To assess whether a performance deficit is a result of lack of skill, ask the questions, "If his/her life depended on it, could the person do the task?" If the answer is no, then it could be a skill problem."

I will assume that you're not referring to aptitude or learned skills.

Rejecting a tool that you obviously have no use for while approving a system whereby it would be impossible to assail a "mushroom's review a Beethoven performance" vibrates with pain or hostility, not reason.

If you don't care to elaborate on why I'll understand. I'm your friend and I'm not hostile, and my intelligence tells me that your conclusions are the product of heartache or trauma not reasoned debate, study or logic.

Is it possible that your reasons for your opinion are rooted in something that you will not tell others, either?

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2010-09-15   22:41:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: farmfriend (#53)

You know, to show appreciation.

It is a plight that I live with day to day. I was smitten by God to carry this burden.

"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET

buckeroo  posted on  2010-09-15   22:42:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: HOUNDDAWG (#54)

Is this the result of someone you love not testing well?

LOL actually no. My husband took the math SATs without using scratch paper. Scored so high they made him take it again accusing him of cheating. He didn't. My oldest son has an Eidetic memory.

Eidetic or photographic memory is popularly defined as the ability to recall images, sounds, or objects in memory with extreme accuracy and in abundant volume. The word eidetic (pronounced /ajÈd[thk/) means related to extraordinarily detailed and vivid recall of visual images, and comes from the Greek word µ0;´¿Â (eidos), which means "form".[1]

Both my boys scored in the 99%tile and test very well. They have never taken IQ tests though.


"Every Person born within the limits of the United States, and subject to their jurisdiction, is by virtue of natural law and national law a citizen of the United States. This will not, of course, include persons born in the United States who are foreigners, aliens, who belong to the families of ambassadors or foreign ministers accredited to the Government of the United States, but will include every other class of persons.
Senator Jacob Howard, Co-author of the citizenship clause of the 14th Amendment, 1866.

farmfriend  posted on  2010-09-15   22:47:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: farmfriend (#48)

Pure black Africans had never built a shelter that would last past the first rainstorm and in a land swarming with docile beasts they had never dreamed of a plow.

Not sure I agree with that. Pinging OI since his knowledge of archeology is greater than mine. How would you explain the Great Zimbabwe and the pyramids of Ethiopia? As far as I know they were all built by true blacks.

Well, just as The Great Pyramid Of Giza may have blacks huddled around the base at any moment, it was built with technology which we cannot duplicate today.

And those huddled blacks are the result of Egyptian slavery and it's highly unlikely that their predecessors built them. In fact breeding with slaves was the primary cause of the destruction of once great civilizations, not the reason for their existence. (Surely you can see how the third world invasion of your state casts serious doubts on the survival of you and yours if you remain there, can you not?)

The Egyptians were great before they began excursions into sub-Saharan Africa. They certainly didn't go grab a bunch of blacks, bring them home then demand to be shown the secrets of engineering marvels. This is evidenced by an absence of such marvels then and now in black Africa.

And O_I's opinions are highly skewed on this topic and he won't hide the fact that once he exhausts his limited resources he'll substitute hostility, so he'll be of no use.

Remember, Hitler said, "8 lames walking arm in arm do not make one gladiator"!, and seven more like him or armadillo won't make one bit of difference ;)

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2010-09-15   23:06:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: farmfriend (#56)

Both my boys scored in the 99%tile and test very well. They have never taken IQ tests though.

On what do you base your severe opinion about intelligence tests then?

(sawwy but I had to ask)

Is this a self esteem issue? Do you feel that kids shouldn't know that always there will be greater and lesser among us?

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2010-09-15   23:10:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: HOUNDDAWG (#58)

On what do you base your severe opinion about intelligence tests then?

I would not characterize my position as severe.


"Every Person born within the limits of the United States, and subject to their jurisdiction, is by virtue of natural law and national law a citizen of the United States. This will not, of course, include persons born in the United States who are foreigners, aliens, who belong to the families of ambassadors or foreign ministers accredited to the Government of the United States, but will include every other class of persons.
Senator Jacob Howard, Co-author of the citizenship clause of the 14th Amendment, 1866.

farmfriend  posted on  2010-09-15   23:15:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: James Deffenbach (#52)

That's possible but there is no way you could know that.

There certainly is.
I know the guy, talk with him, and I read what passes for intellectual discourse on this forum.
That black man (and he's BLACK, not brown) is so far above you people (and me), it really puts the racist BS here to shame. The guys intelligence is palpable.

In the industry I work in, I come in contact with many differnt people. From all races, nationalities, and abilities.
I can tell you, with no doubt, if you judge anyone by their race you are the one who is a fool.

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"Somewhere, something incredible is waiting to be known."
-Carl Sagan.

Armadillo  posted on  2010-09-15   23:17:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: HOUNDDAWG, Original_Intent (#57)

I wasn't talking about the pyramids of Egypt. I was talking about the pyramids in Ethiopia.


"Every Person born within the limits of the United States, and subject to their jurisdiction, is by virtue of natural law and national law a citizen of the United States. This will not, of course, include persons born in the United States who are foreigners, aliens, who belong to the families of ambassadors or foreign ministers accredited to the Government of the United States, but will include every other class of persons.
Senator Jacob Howard, Co-author of the citizenship clause of the 14th Amendment, 1866.

farmfriend  posted on  2010-09-15   23:18:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: PSUSA (#1)

See, us Blacks can use smart words, too.

i caught that too.

christine  posted on  2010-09-16   0:07:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: gengis gandhi (#11)

communications in contemporary society=ebonics/jive

lol

christine  posted on  2010-09-16   0:08:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: Original_Intent (#20)

Poor, but intact, families were generally not eligible for the hand out programs but single women with children were. Thus broken families were rewarded i.e., given money and intact families were not. What you reward you get more of, and so black illegitimacy then at about 30% and 70% in intact nuclear families has now virtually completely reversed.

very true.

christine  posted on  2010-09-16   0:15:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#65. To: abraxas (#28)

The zero which makes much of the mathmatics and physics of today possible, didn't come from whitie. Indians were the first to bring up the idea of using "nothing" as a number

how did you know that? ;)

christine  posted on  2010-09-16   0:19:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#66. To: James Deffenbach (#35)

omg, that is hilariously unpc. i laughed out loud.

christine  posted on  2010-09-16   0:31:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#67. To: farmfriend, HOUNDDAWG, Armadillo, christine, wudidiz, all (#61) (Edited)

I wasn't talking about the pyramids of Egypt. I was talking about the pyramids in Ethiopia.

Ethiopia is an interesting place. We lose the thread of civilization there because the civilization was so old that it seems to have gone into decline, then collapse, and then a resurgence in the early Second Millenium. The national epic of Ethiopia is the Kebra Nagast (Translation by E. Wallace Budge published in 1922) which was first set to paper in the 1400's but existed in oral form into the time of the Old Testament. The Queen of Sheba, who was black, and her son feature prominently in the epic history of a very civilized ancient Black Culture in Ethiopia.

As well one could go to Southern Africa where ruins so old they have mostly been worn down and covered with sand were reported by early explorers. David Hatcher Childress traveled into the area when it was still more or less safe and found hints of ruins, but they are so old and eroded, as well as covered by the drifting sands, that it is inconclusive. Lamestream academic archaeology isn't interested because it would upset too many apple carts. To discover and document ruins that apparently ancient would throw their timelines off and we just couldn't have that. The already printed textbook is much more important than actually doing science and going where the evidence leads.

The late Robert Heinlein made an interesting observation that the majority of all major scientific advances are made by people who are widely regarded by many of their unimaginative contemporaries as kooks. I wish I had the quote handy but it would take me a while to locate. However, it is one of his non-fiction essays in the book "Expanded Universe".

One could further expand one's horizons and speak of the Olmec Heads, busts, which have been uncovered since the 1800's. The problem that lamestream archaelogy runs into is that many of the "Olmec Heads" have obviously Negroid features. The lamestream has bent over backwards to try and assert that they're really Indians with big lips, but the physical evidence refutes them despite their attempts to explain it away.





Olmec Heads with obviously Negroid features.

There is a good introduction by David Hatcher Childress on the Graham Hancock Website to the puzzle of the Olmecs of which we really do not know a lot.

However, there is no amount of evidence which will convince the ignoratti of the White Supremacy crowd because like ignorant bigots in all times and places they substitute their delusions and fevered imaginings along with their self inflation to overcome their inadequacy by finding someone whom they can, without evidence of of course, designate as a lower order so that self designated superiority, regardless of whether or not it is justified or apparent to others, can be justified. And yes it is that convoluted. However, racism, positions of racial superiority are an interesting form of psychoses. There is no reason behind it, merely justification for it. All of their evidences of supposed genetic superiority can all be accounted for in terms of cultural and social setting. However, white supemacists have never been long on reason, it is just a matter of their own irrational need to assert that they's sapeerior to sumwhun.

And O_I's opinions are highly skewed on this topic and he won't hide the fact that once he exhausts his limited resources he'll substitute hostility, so he'll be of no use.

Remember, Hitler said, "8 lames walking arm in arm do not make one gladiator"!, and seven more like him or armadillo won't make one bit of difference ;)

And a hearty Sieg Heil to you too. Of course as usual you are compelled by your own pathos to misrepresent my opinions, but there is nothing worse than letting facts and accurate representations get in the way of a little friendly back stabbing.

"He ain't a racist pig like'n normul peepul so obviously he ain't got an uhpinion wurth considerin'."

Of course you do not have the courage to write a counter to my arguments but instead substitute Argumentum Ad Hominem sniping. Truly an intellectually courageous position.

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-09-16   0:41:00 ET  (2 images) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#68. To: Original_Intent (#67)

The late Robert Heinlein made an interesting observation that the majority of all major scientific advances are made by people who are widely regarded by many of their unimaginative contemporaries as kooks. I wish I had the quote handy but it would take me a while to locate. However, it is one of his non-fiction essays in the book "Expanded Universe".

Heinlein Bump!

WWGPD? - (What Would General Pinochet Do?)

Flintlock  posted on  2010-09-16   0:59:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#69. To: Armadillo (#60) (Edited)

There certainly is. I know the guy, talk with him, and I read what passes for intellectual discourse on this forum. That black man (and he's BLACK, not brown) is so far above you people (and me), it really puts the racist BS here to shame. The guys intelligence is palpable.

In the industry I work in, I come in contact with many differnt people. From all races, nationalities, and abilities. I can tell you, with no doubt, if you judge anyone by their race you are the one who is a fool.

There is no way you can know what you are professing to know without any doubt. I don't judge anyone by his or her race because I know there are good and bad in all groups, even in each of us as individuals. I don't know what makes you think that you have to, or need to, hold up one black person that you know as being intellectually superior to anyone and everyone on this forum. To be honest with you I would have to see it to believe it. Sure, your friend may be very gifted in whatever interests him but many people are. But give him a test about things he doesn't know or understand much and he will be the one who will look like he may need some special education. We are all ignorant, just about different things, and your friend is no exception to that rule.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

He (Gordon Duff) also implies that forcibly removing Obama, a Constitution-hating, on-the-down-low, crackhead Communist, is an attack on America, Mom, and apple pie. I swear these military people are worse than useless. Just look around at the condition of the country and tell me if they have fulfilled their oaths to protect the nation from all enemies foreign and domestic.
OsamaBinGoldstein posted on 2010-05-25 9:39:59 ET (2 images) Reply Trace

James Deffenbach  posted on  2010-09-16   8:14:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#70. To: christine (#66)

omg, that is hilariously unpc. i laughed out loud.

Glad you liked it. As you know I never have claimed to be pc. There are already enough members of that herd.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

He (Gordon Duff) also implies that forcibly removing Obama, a Constitution-hating, on-the-down-low, crackhead Communist, is an attack on America, Mom, and apple pie. I swear these military people are worse than useless. Just look around at the condition of the country and tell me if they have fulfilled their oaths to protect the nation from all enemies foreign and domestic.
OsamaBinGoldstein posted on 2010-05-25 9:39:59 ET (2 images) Reply Trace

James Deffenbach  posted on  2010-09-16   8:15:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#71. To: PnbC (#27)

I didn't realize you were such a believer in it.

I'm not. But for over a trillion dollars, you'd think blacks' IQ would have budged one point. In over one hundred years, since the development of IQ tests, not one point has been added.

"Society is, always has been and always will be a structure for the exploitation and oppression of the majority through systems of political force dictated by an élite, enforced by thugs, uniformed or not, and upheld by a willful ignorance and stupidity on the part of the very majority whom the system oppresses." -- Richard K. Morgan

Turtle  posted on  2010-09-16   10:40:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#72. To: abraxas (#28)

math and physics were created by whites.

No, they were not.

97% of everything in the world was created by Europeans and their descendents in the U.S. If everyone else has never existed, the world would have barely noticed.

"Society is, always has been and always will be a structure for the exploitation and oppression of the majority through systems of political force dictated by an élite, enforced by thugs, uniformed or not, and upheld by a willful ignorance and stupidity on the part of the very majority whom the system oppresses." -- Richard K. Morgan

Turtle  posted on  2010-09-16   10:43:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#73. To: farmfriend (#48)

How would you explain the Great Zimbabwe and the pyramids of Ethiopia?

They were built by Asian Indians who came to Africa for gold, which is why they look so much like Indian buildings.

"Society is, always has been and always will be a structure for the exploitation and oppression of the majority through systems of political force dictated by an élite, enforced by thugs, uniformed or not, and upheld by a willful ignorance and stupidity on the part of the very majority whom the system oppresses." -- Richard K. Morgan

Turtle  posted on  2010-09-16   10:48:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#74. To: Turtle (#72)

Balony. You buy into the history written by Europeans that forgets to pay tribute to the original sources of much knowledge. Doesn't change the fact that the ideas they claim to be original were actually not original to them.

"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations

abraxas  posted on  2010-09-16   10:52:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#75. To: abraxas (#74)

This map? Nearly everything invented/discovered in the last 500 years came from the high-lighted areas. Know why nothing came from Spain or southern Italy? Rape for hundreds of years by genetically-inferior Arabs.

If the white man had never existed, blacks would permanently be in 20,000 B.C., Arabs permanently in the Seventh Century (and screwing their donkeys and goats, which American soldiers caught on their night-vision goggled) and Asia in about the 11th Century.

"Society is, always has been and always will be a structure for the exploitation and oppression of the majority through systems of political force dictated by an élite, enforced by thugs, uniformed or not, and upheld by a willful ignorance and stupidity on the part of the very majority whom the system oppresses." -- Richard K. Morgan

Turtle  posted on  2010-09-16   11:09:30 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#76. To: James Deffenbach (#35)

i'm watching this and sitting here laughing again. it's so clever. ;P

christine  posted on  2010-09-16   11:26:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#77. To: PSUSA (#32)

I love it when people come up with exceptions. They don't realize that this is what they are; exceptions.

It's the Fallacy of Composition: assuming what is true of a part is also true of the whole. Since one black had a Ph.D. in Astrophysics it assumes all can, ignoring the mean average genetic IQ of 85.

"Society is, always has been and always will be a structure for the exploitation and oppression of the majority through systems of political force dictated by an élite, enforced by thugs, uniformed or not, and upheld by a willful ignorance and stupidity on the part of the very majority whom the system oppresses." -- Richard K. Morgan

Turtle  posted on  2010-09-16   11:39:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#78. To: christine (#76)

Yeah, that guy did a good job on that one. Blackstronauts will rise again. Or "shoot up" again (that was a funny line I thought, a double entendre).

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

He (Gordon Duff) also implies that forcibly removing Obama, a Constitution-hating, on-the-down-low, crackhead Communist, is an attack on America, Mom, and apple pie. I swear these military people are worse than useless. Just look around at the condition of the country and tell me if they have fulfilled their oaths to protect the nation from all enemies foreign and domestic.
OsamaBinGoldstein posted on 2010-05-25 9:39:59 ET (2 images) Reply Trace

James Deffenbach  posted on  2010-09-16   12:31:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#79. To: abraxas, Turdle, Turtle, farmfriend, all (#74)

Balony. You buy into the history written by Europeans that forgets to pay tribute to the original sources of much knowledge. Doesn't change the fact that the ideas they claim to be original were actually not original to them.

Poor Turdle's limp grasp upon the march of history, the rise and fall of civilizations and the ages of man is truly monumental in its prodigious shallowness.

When his ancestors were scratching flea bites from the menagerie in their poorly tanned hides the Chinese were weaving silk, composing poetry, and building gardens of delight. He really should be more respectful of them - after all they taught the europeans about the wonders of bathing and that miracle of personal hygiene called, euphemistically, "wiping" after their stool.

When Turdle's ancestors were foraging for Turnips, and the odd passer by to rob, the Syrians were forging steel - thus the term Damascus Steel.

While Turdle's ancestors were huddling around the smoky fire in their thatch roofed mud daub huts India was building palaces and cities of marble and stone.

Poor Turdle. His erudition is limited to such a narrow timeline that he cannot recall or even grasp that his silly notions and febrid imaginings are a faint and insubstantial mist. The ravings of the benighted lost and wandering upon the boundless and clouded sea of his own ignorance.

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-09-17   0:57:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#80. To: Original_Intent, Turtle (#79)

When his ancestors were scratching flea bites from the menagerie in their poorly tanned hides the Chinese were weaving silk, composing poetry, and building gardens of delight.

And inventing gunpowder, glass and BBQ sauce, but what did they do with it? Nothing. It took Western Man to understand the significance of the invention and run with it.

If we lived under a "classic" Chinese system all we'd have are Buddhist Priest who wore glasses because they could and firecrackers...while we all pulled rickshaws.

Always ask yourself this question: How many flags are there on the Moon and whose are they?

There's 6 and they're all American

WWGPD? - (What Would General Pinochet Do?)

Flintlock  posted on  2010-09-17   1:30:25 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#81. To: Original_Intent, Flintlock (#80)


No Planes. Think about it. ................. Guaranteed Penetration (no it's not porn)

wudidiz  posted on  2010-09-17   1:39:26 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#82. To: Flintlock, wudidiz, abraxas, farmfriend, Turdle, Turtle, christine, HighLairEon, all (#80) (Edited)

My point is not to degrade the accomplishments of Europe and America. My point was simply that Turdle suffers from tunnel vision, parochialism, provincialism, and myopia. Outside of that his vision is spotty at best. The occasional bon mot and insight is vastly outweighed by an obstreperous and overall superficial view of the world and its peoples.

I have a somewhat broader and more expansive view of what constitutes civilized than simple technological tricks. Going to the Moon was a great accomplishment and a worthy first step toward a larger universe. However, we should have already been to Mars and back - 20 years ago. Why we haven't is another issue which I won't take up here.

However, the measure of a civilization is not simply a matter of being able to build the fanciest technology. Not that I am denigrating it or a Luddite and opposed to such but that there are other measures than "gee whizz" technology which define civilization. The ancient Greeks of the Golden Age were an advanced culture. No, they didn't go to the moon, but they gave us such as Plato, Aristotle, Pythagoras, Euclid, Anaximenes, Parmenides, Anaximander, Solon, Aeschylus, Ptolemy, Diogenes, Socrates, Homer, and on and on. They did not have electricity, flush toilets, or put a man on the moon, but they formed ideas that are still current, still talked about, pondered, and considered.

Likewise the Chinese gave us Lao Tsu, Confucius, Sun Tzu, and the Great Wall. Too many inventions to chronicle in a short post. Gun Powder was but one as they were expert craftsmen and artists as well. No, they did not invent the gun or cannon, but then they did not engage in the kind of wholesale war and conquest favored, even then, by European rulers.

India is an interesting puzzle. Here is one that amuses me greatly when the racialists go into the shallow philosophizing on how the color of their skin somehow makes them superior. Generally what they attribute to skin color is actually a function of culture and the quirk that turned Europe into a forward looking and expanding society. It was that willingness to accept, and improve upon the inventions of others that really got the ball rolling. However, I digress. The Indian people are European, or Caucasian if you wish, in ancestry. Their distant ancestors were likely as pale skinned as their European ancestors, and their language, Sanskrit and today Hindi, are Indo European languages having their roots in the theorized root language from which all European languages derive. The cities of Moenhjo Daro and Harappa had running water and public baths well over a thousand years ago. About 7 or 8 years ago another city was found, about the size of Manhattan, problem being is that it is now covered by the sea in an average of 30 or 40 feet of water and more. The problem with that is that it means that city is likely at least 5,000 years old and likely older. So, here again when one takes a deeper look at human history one finds people again who were advanced, and so long advanced, that they went into decadence, decline and dissolution when Europe was still mostly forest and populated by animal skin wearing barbarians. Not to degrade Europe, or Europeans, but I make the comparison to illustrate the contrast. From India came perhaps the greatest philosopher of the ancient world Gautama Siddhartha - called simply The Buddha.

Likewise Africa, and its peoples. We know from some ruins, and enigmas such as the Great Zimbabwe, that Africa has as well has known the rise from barbarism, to growth, civilization, decadence, decline, and dissolution. Intriguing are the ruins rumored to be in the desert areas of Southern Africa where the ruins are so ancient that they are now mostly dust with occasionally the odd fragment surfacing from the sand and chronicled by some passer by. There hints and shapes and hints of shapes all suggestive of a once substantial civilization now long gone.

And so as a student of history and of civilizations I have a somewhat different perspective than bucktoothed, hillbilly pseudo intellectuals and and their collections of huckster quotes, assumptions, and a superiority complex born of ignorance such as evidenced in the estimable Mr. Turdle.

Mankind has been on this planet a long time. All races at one time or another have known civilization, and some of them quite high. It is an interesting conundrum to watch and elucidate the "reasoning" of those who insist upon interpreting superficialities, such as skin color as somehow reflecting the inner essence, or spirit, which is man. To buy into that one first has to buy into the materialist view that you are meat, that you are a sack of chemicals and water and that the interaction of those chemical reactions determines who and what you are. That is a very limited view of man. Since this post is already a little over long and it would take as much again to justify the point of view let me just state it simply for your consideration. For many many centuries disappearing into the dim and unrecorded past man has had the conception of himself, and that is in the inclusive sense including women, as a spiritual being i.e., the recognition that he was not merely his body and a mobile sack of meat. That spirit has been given many and varied names, soul, spirit, essence, or as Bergson put it the "Force Vitale" or life force which is what truly animates and gives light to that sack of mobile meat. That "Force Vitale" is the separate and distinct entity which is you, me, your neighbor, and the kid down the street. In other words there is that essence which is the person and not their body, not their skin color, their eyes, or anything else of the physical realm. All theories of racialism are basically materialism which denies that there is anything other than gross physical matter. And the concept that man is nothing more than a stimulus response piece of meat has no support in science, although its supporters try to pretend there is, but there is no Psychiatrist or Psychologist who can point at anything representing definitive proof that you are nothing more than meat. The upshot is that you ARE your own immortal soul, that which thinks, wonders, loves, and hates. And that soul, or life force which is you is not your body. Thus we can conclude, quite reasonably, that outward physical appearance may reflect the inner life force but it does not define it, rather it is exactly the opposite. From there we can also reach that skin color is nothing, nothing that defines the inner being. Sting got it right: We are spirits in the material world.

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-09-17   2:51:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#83. To: wudidiz (#81)

Sadly, there is no small amount of truth in that. Although one can adapt the concept to other types of parochialism. I once saw a reproduction of a parody map distributed by the local power company representing the New Yorker view of the United States. Much the same concept, and just as funny/unfunny true.

I found part of a reproduction of it here.

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-09-17   3:08:30 ET  (2 images) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#84. To: Original_Intent, *Post Of The Day* (#82)

Enjoyable. I feel smarter just from reading that.


No Planes. Think about it. ................. Guaranteed Penetration (no it's not porn)

wudidiz  posted on  2010-09-17   4:01:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#85. To: Flintlock, All (#80)

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Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-09-17   8:33:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#86. To: Eric Stratton (#85)

If anything, 9/11 should reintroduce to the masses the notion that we never went to the moon.

Apples and oranges. Equating the two would be yet another very effective way of making truthers look silly.

They left laser reflectors there that astronomers use routinely.

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PSUSA  posted on  2010-09-17   8:47:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#87. To: Original_Intent (#82)

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Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-09-17   8:59:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#88. To: PSUSA (#86)

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Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-09-17   9:06:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#89. To: PSUSA (#86)

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Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-09-17   9:06:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#90. To: PSUSA (#86)

They left laser reflectors there that astronomers use routinely.

And all the professionals and amateurs who tracked the spacecraft with telescopes.

"Society is, always has been and always will be a structure for the exploitation and oppression of the majority through systems of political force dictated by an élite, enforced by thugs, uniformed or not, and upheld by a willful ignorance and stupidity on the part of the very majority whom the system oppresses." -- Richard K. Morgan

Turtle  posted on  2010-09-17   10:49:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#91. To: Original_Intent (#82)

Likewise Africa, and its peoples. We know from some ruins, and enigmas such as the Great Zimbabwe,

I think you're reaching here. (Great?) Zimbabwe ruins is a disorganized pile of rocks of a once minor trading center. Nothing great about it or the people who built it.

Intriguing are the ruins rumored to be in the desert areas of Southern Africa where the ruins are so ancient that they are now mostly dust with occasionally the odd fragment surfacing from the sand and chronicled by some passer by. There hints and shapes and hints of shapes all suggestive of a once substantial civilization now long gone.

Rumored is the key word here and if ever found will most likely be of Sumerian origin

Gotta run, I'm having minor technical problems with one of America's greatest inventions (besides Thermonuclear weapons, the computer, internet, steamship, airplane, machine gun, ram-air parachute, antibiotics, compound bow, hula hoop and Chili)

The American Motorcycle.

WWGPD? - (What Would General Pinochet Do?)

Flintlock  posted on  2010-09-17   10:57:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#92. To: Flintlock (#91)

Is there anyone on the forum who can tell me why and how these once great civilizations turned to shit? The remnants of the Incas & Mayans are now mostly members of MS-13, while the residents of the Dark Continent seemingly haven't been capable of forming a workable government for countless centuries. The great Grecian culture is now an oil spot on history, with Rome and US not far behind. My point is when one looks back to the wonders of what was, make sure you avoid the shit pile of what is.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2010-09-17   11:08:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#93. To: Flintlock (#91)

(Great?) Zimbabwe ruins

Those ruins look almost exactly like Indian temples and are thought to have been built by Asian Indians mining gold.

"Society is, always has been and always will be a structure for the exploitation and oppression of the majority through systems of political force dictated by an élite, enforced by thugs, uniformed or not, and upheld by a willful ignorance and stupidity on the part of the very majority whom the system oppresses." -- Richard K. Morgan

Turtle  posted on  2010-09-17   11:08:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#94. To: Jethro Tull (#92) (Edited)

They weren't just civilizations. They were empires. Empires rise and fall. The one constant is that whites rebuild after the fall and retain their cultures. Until they try to gain an empire again, and start the cycle anew.

Or they have their cultures destroyed from within by bringing in other cultures, like Rome did, and like we're doing.

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The second dumbest creature on the face of the earth is the one who cannot recognize its enemies. The most stupid of all is the one who will defend and collaborate with the very enemies that are destroying it and its own kind. -Ben Klassen

PSUSA  posted on  2010-09-17   11:15:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#95. To: PSUSA (#86)

...Space may be the final frontier
But it's made in a Hollywood basement...

Lyrics from Californication by the Red Hot Chili Peppers

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

He (Gordon Duff) also implies that forcibly removing Obama, a Constitution-hating, on-the-down-low, crackhead Communist, is an attack on America, Mom, and apple pie. I swear these military people are worse than useless. Just look around at the condition of the country and tell me if they have fulfilled their oaths to protect the nation from all enemies foreign and domestic.
OsamaBinGoldstein posted on 2010-05-25 9:39:59 ET (2 images) Reply Trace

James Deffenbach  posted on  2010-09-17   11:18:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#96. To: Jethro Tull (#92)

Is there anyone on the forum who can tell me why and how these once great civilizations turned to shit? The remnants of the Incas & Mayans are now mostly members of MS-13,

I can't tell you.

But, as someone who has been to and personally examined most Mayan and Inca ruins, I can attest that the current inhabitants of the areas are incapable of adding 50 + 50 without a calculator. How they acted above the capacity of "power tools" in their construction is totally unbelievable.

WWGPD? - (What Would General Pinochet Do?)

Flintlock  posted on  2010-09-17   11:54:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#97. To: Eric Stratton (#87)

And so as a student of history and of civilizations I have a somewhat different perspective than bucktoothed, hillbilly pseudo intellectuals and and their collections of huckster quotes, assumptions, and a superiority complex born of ignorance such as evidenced in the estimable Mr. Turdle.

There is a retired nutcase who is a library rat. All he can talk about are ancient civilizations, how entire cities are under Anartic ice, Atlantis really existed, etc. He has no idea he is as boring as hell.

Probably much like O_I.

"Society is, always has been and always will be a structure for the exploitation and oppression of the majority through systems of political force dictated by an élite, enforced by thugs, uniformed or not, and upheld by a willful ignorance and stupidity on the part of the very majority whom the system oppresses." -- Richard K. Morgan

Turtle  posted on  2010-09-17   11:56:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#98. To: PSUSA (#94)

The one constant is that whites rebuild after the fall and retain their cultures.

Hence the global forced integration of white civilizations. Is it too far fetched that some one group fears the rebirth of a white nationalistic nation?

Jethro Tull  posted on  2010-09-17   11:58:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#99. To: Turtle (#93)

Those ruins look almost exactly like Indian temples and are thought to have been built by Asian Indians mining gold.

I was in that neighborhood once and was told by everyone that they're not even worth looking at, so I didn't.

It's no Tiahuanaco

Africans are known for smearing cattle dung on their heads to attract flies, cannibalism, rap music, stealing and singing their love for Hey-Sus while they picked cotton

Not building pyramids.

WWGPD? - (What Would General Pinochet Do?)

Flintlock  posted on  2010-09-17   12:04:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#100. To: Original_Intent, *Post Of The Day* (#82)

I'll take the step of labeling that post of the day.


"Every Person born within the limits of the United States, and subject to their jurisdiction, is by virtue of natural law and national law a citizen of the United States. This will not, of course, include persons born in the United States who are foreigners, aliens, who belong to the families of ambassadors or foreign ministers accredited to the Government of the United States, but will include every other class of persons.
Senator Jacob Howard, Co-author of the citizenship clause of the 14th Amendment, 1866.

farmfriend  posted on  2010-09-17   12:37:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#101. To: wudidiz (#84)

Enjoyable. I feel smarter just from reading that.

Thank you. If my little efforts can raise people up in any way I am well rewarded.

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-09-17   13:24:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#102. To: farmfriend (#100)

Thank you. And you took #100 in doing so. ;-)

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-09-17   13:25:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#103. To: Eric Stratton, Turdle, Turtle (#87)

Thanks. Glad you enjoyed. Sometimes I think I am too hard on poor Mr. Turdle, but somehow I think he'd feel left out if I didn't remind him that someone notices his, ahem, presence.

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-09-17   13:30:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#104. To: Turtle (#97)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-09-17   13:49:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#105. To: Flintlock (#91) (Edited)

The American Motorcycle.

Ah, yes, Hoggus Outstandus Oileakus the ride of the free spirit.

Yes, I have to agree that the evidence of ancient civilization in Africa is more tenuous than other places with more substantial markers. However, I fall back on the suggestion that it is of such great age that time has taken its toll. Great Zimbabwe is interesting not just because of its architecture, which is quite anomalous given the state of the region at the time it was discovered, but because it appears to have had no function other than as a representation of astronomical alignments and imagery. That implies a knowledged of astronomy, and some degree of mathematical knowledge so like Sherlock Holmes we are left trying to deduce the whole from the part.

Africa also seems to have undergone a considerable amount of geologic activity in the recent history of the last hundred thousand years or so. As an example the Nile used to drain out the other sided of the continent and into the Indian Ocean not the Atlantic. I won't spend a lot of time going into detail but satellite mapping of some of the desert areas has turned up substantial buried ruins which appear to date to a period of time when the area had a different surface form, influencing rainfall levels and drainage, and so the age, despite the protests of fixed ideas in lamestream archaeology, of a good 8,000 B.C. or before seems suggested by the evidence.

Interesting enough North America has its own anomalies, and the American Southwest was also at one time much wetter than now. While it was still relatively dry country in the time of the mysterious Anasazi the rain and water levels seem to have been enough more to support considerably more agriculture than takes place there now. As well are the rumors of cave systems that were inhabited in the very distant past. Geronimo seems to have known some of them and used them to elude the U.S. Cavalry on more than one occasion. And then of course there is Kennewick Man which can only be described as an "Oopart" (Out of Place Artifact) as here we find a Caucasian in a place where conventional theory holds that there should be no caucasians ten thousand years ago when he died in a remote area of Washington State.

The centuries have taken their toll, and along with the destruction of ancient records in Egypt and in China much of the thread to our distant ancestors has been lost.

My speculation on both Africa and North America is that both were on the receiving end of one, or more, of the apparent nuclear wars that took place in the distant past. However, that is speculation based on sketchy and incomplete, by far, evidence.

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-09-17   13:53:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#106. To: Eric Stratton, Turdle, Turtle (#104)

There is a retired nutcase who is a library rat. All he can talk about are ancient civilizations, how entire cities are under Anartic ice, Atlantis really existed, etc. He has no idea he is as boring as hell.

Probably much like O_I.

At least they add some relevant content to these forums.

What do you add regularly besides semi-sexual jokes and womanizing humor?

Oh, he adds egotistical bloviating, the occasional distorted perspective based on incomplete and misinterpreted data, and of course his definitive intellectual assessments based upon his voluminous ignorance.

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-09-17   13:56:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#107. To: Original_Intent (#106) (Edited)

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Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-09-17   14:04:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#108. To: Eric Stratton, Turdle, Turtle (#107)

Either way, not exactly a wise decision to make the kind of comments he made about people that truly do add to the content value of the site.

Oh, nothing knew there. Uncle Fester Boob has a positive talent for one thing - sticking his knee in his mouth.

As for his "additions" I think they are somewhat evocative of brain eating Zombies. They seem to suck the potential intelligence and wit out of the board.

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-09-17   14:15:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#109. To: Original_Intent (#108)

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Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-09-17   16:04:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#110. To: Eric Stratton (#109)

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-09-17   16:42:42 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#111. To: Original_Intent (#102)

And you took #100 in doing so. ;-)

cool!


"Every Person born within the limits of the United States, and subject to their jurisdiction, is by virtue of natural law and national law a citizen of the United States. This will not, of course, include persons born in the United States who are foreigners, aliens, who belong to the families of ambassadors or foreign ministers accredited to the Government of the United States, but will include every other class of persons.
Senator Jacob Howard, Co-author of the citizenship clause of the 14th Amendment, 1866.

farmfriend  posted on  2010-09-17   16:49:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#112. To: Original_Intent, Flintlock (#105) (Edited)

The American Motorcycle.

Ah, yes, Hoggus Outstandus Oileakus the ride of the free spirit.

LOL Harleys are not American motorcycles. And since they still use push rods I wouldn't brag about them being a great invention.

Now my husband rides a true American motorcycle, a Honda VTX 1800.


"Every Person born within the limits of the United States, and subject to their jurisdiction, is by virtue of natural law and national law a citizen of the United States. This will not, of course, include persons born in the United States who are foreigners, aliens, who belong to the families of ambassadors or foreign ministers accredited to the Government of the United States, but will include every other class of persons.
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farmfriend  posted on  2010-09-17   16:53:43 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#113. To: farmfriend (#112)

I have to admit that it is a nice looking ride.

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-09-17   17:10:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#114. To: farmfriend (#112)

Harley is not an American motorcycle and Honda is? What color is the sky on your home planet? LOL! Honda may have a manufacturing facility in the US, in fact it may have more than one, but it is a Japanese company started by Soichiro Honda who was born in Hamamatsu, Shizuoka, Japan in 1906.

By 1922 Soichiro Honda was working in a car shop in Tokyo doing medial tasks but became a trusted mechanic. There he worked on the Art Daimler racing car. Making parts for this car taught him invaluable lessons that would be used later in his career. When the car raced for the first time and won the trophy, Soichiro Honda was the mechanic and only 17 years old. Honda continued to work in the mechanic shop and his experience grew as he worked on Mercedes, Lincolns and Daimlers. At the age of 21 he opened his own auto shop in Hamamatsu.

Soon the employees of Honda learned that sloppy work and poor performance would not be tolerated with the lesson punctuated by Honda throwing tools. Honda wanted to build an engineering business but knew his own managerial shortcomings, so he developed Honda Motor Company in 1946 to build small motorcycles. Honda focused on the engineering and left the running of the company to Takeo Fujisawa. Their first product was a 98 cc two stroke motorcycle called Dream.

ezinearticles.com/?Soichi...-Motor-Company&id=3862886

The first Harley-Davidson motorcycle was built in Milwaukee, Wisconsin--still the location of the company's headquarters--in the early 1900s. The Davidson brothers--William, Walter, and Arthur--along with William S. Harley, designed and developed the bike and its three horsepower engine in their family shed. The machine went through many refinements until 1903, when the men established the Harley-Davidson Motor Company and produced three of their motorcycles for sale. Over the next several years both demand and production grew at a healthy rate, and by 1907 the company had begun to advertise.

Two years later the company produced a new model featuring a V-twin engine that produced a low, deep rumble now identified as the signature Harley-Davidson sound. The revolutionary engine--still a company standard&mdash-abled riders to reach speeds of 60 miles per hour, which until that time had been believed impossible. Such capabilities served to set the company's motorcycles apart from the competition; by 1911 there were 150 other companies manufacturing the vehicles.

www.fundinguniverse.com/c...-Inc-Company-History.html

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He (Gordon Duff) also implies that forcibly removing Obama, a Constitution-hating, on-the-down-low, crackhead Communist, is an attack on America, Mom, and apple pie. I swear these military people are worse than useless. Just look around at the condition of the country and tell me if they have fulfilled their oaths to protect the nation from all enemies foreign and domestic.
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#115. To: farmfriend (#112)

That is a good looking bike and appears to be very comfortable. While the bikes I like best, as far as looks, are not all that comfortable, for the kind of riding I like to do they are fine and definitely head turners. I don't have one anymore (have had three different bikes in the past, just can't afford one now), but if I had the money I would have one something like one of these.

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Or maybe this one:

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Or this:

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Lord Acton

He (Gordon Duff) also implies that forcibly removing Obama, a Constitution-hating, on-the-down-low, crackhead Communist, is an attack on America, Mom, and apple pie. I swear these military people are worse than useless. Just look around at the condition of the country and tell me if they have fulfilled their oaths to protect the nation from all enemies foreign and domestic.
OsamaBinGoldstein posted on 2010-05-25 9:39:59 ET (2 images) Reply Trace

James Deffenbach  posted on  2010-09-17   17:35:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#116. To: James Deffenbach (#114)

Harley is not an American motorcycle and Honda is?

Yes. My husband bike was manufactured in the US by US workers. Over 40% of a Harley is foreign manufactured.


"Every Person born within the limits of the United States, and subject to their jurisdiction, is by virtue of natural law and national law a citizen of the United States. This will not, of course, include persons born in the United States who are foreigners, aliens, who belong to the families of ambassadors or foreign ministers accredited to the Government of the United States, but will include every other class of persons.
Senator Jacob Howard, Co-author of the citizenship clause of the 14th Amendment, 1866.

farmfriend  posted on  2010-09-17   18:32:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#117. To: farmfriend (#116)

The Harleys that I like (the older ones) certainly were not manufactured in any foreign country. At least not to my knowledge.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

He (Gordon Duff) also implies that forcibly removing Obama, a Constitution-hating, on-the-down-low, crackhead Communist, is an attack on America, Mom, and apple pie. I swear these military people are worse than useless. Just look around at the condition of the country and tell me if they have fulfilled their oaths to protect the nation from all enemies foreign and domestic.
OsamaBinGoldstein posted on 2010-05-25 9:39:59 ET (2 images) Reply Trace

James Deffenbach  posted on  2010-09-17   18:41:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#118. To: Original_Intent, farmfriend (#113) (Edited)

Harleys are not American motorcycles.

You call that rice-grinder a bike?

They ride different, they feel different and they sound different.

jap-crap

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Flintlock  posted on  2010-09-17   18:42:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#119. To: farmfriend (#116)

If you read my post again you will see that I acknowledged that Honda had manufacturing facilities in the US. Wasn't always the case though. And don't get me wrong, I like Hondas. My first motorcycle was a Honda 450. Nice bike, ran well, handled well. I also had a Harley, a 65 model Panhead. And I had a Kawasaki. I like motorcycles, don't down any of them.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

He (Gordon Duff) also implies that forcibly removing Obama, a Constitution-hating, on-the-down-low, crackhead Communist, is an attack on America, Mom, and apple pie. I swear these military people are worse than useless. Just look around at the condition of the country and tell me if they have fulfilled their oaths to protect the nation from all enemies foreign and domestic.
OsamaBinGoldstein posted on 2010-05-25 9:39:59 ET (2 images) Reply Trace

James Deffenbach  posted on  2010-09-17   18:44:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#120. To: James Deffenbach (#115)

That hard tail may look cool but try taking a pothole on it. That'll test your dental work.

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Original_Intent  posted on  2010-09-17   18:46:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#121. To: Original_Intent (#120)

I had a chopper so I know about rigid frames. 16 over twisted fork springer, Amen rigid frame with a 10 degree rake. Fancy paint job, lots of chrome. Don't even have a picture of it anymore.

I know a little about hitting bumps with one, lol! One time I hit a speed bump I didn't know was there and it launched me. Fortunately I landed straight and just kept going.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

He (Gordon Duff) also implies that forcibly removing Obama, a Constitution-hating, on-the-down-low, crackhead Communist, is an attack on America, Mom, and apple pie. I swear these military people are worse than useless. Just look around at the condition of the country and tell me if they have fulfilled their oaths to protect the nation from all enemies foreign and domestic.
OsamaBinGoldstein posted on 2010-05-25 9:39:59 ET (2 images) Reply Trace

James Deffenbach  posted on  2010-09-17   18:53:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#122. To: Original_Intent, James Deffenbach (#120)

That hard tail may look cool but try taking a pothole on it. That'll test your dental work.

LOL. I road on a 1945 hard tail once. No thanks.

I do like the Honda. Even with my added weight, the bike has enough power to just about drop me off the back when you nail the throttle. Harley's can't touch it. It has that deep throated rumble that Harley's have but steadier as it doesn't use push rods. The engine is balanced to so that you don't get the Harley vibration either. It really is a sweet bike to ride.

Currently my husband is away for an M109 rally down in Vegas. Bunch of guys came out from Australia for this. Our friend Gregg has a Boulevard.


"Every Person born within the limits of the United States, and subject to their jurisdiction, is by virtue of natural law and national law a citizen of the United States. This will not, of course, include persons born in the United States who are foreigners, aliens, who belong to the families of ambassadors or foreign ministers accredited to the Government of the United States, but will include every other class of persons.
Senator Jacob Howard, Co-author of the citizenship clause of the 14th Amendment, 1866.

farmfriend  posted on  2010-09-17   18:58:44 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#123. To: Flintlock (#118)

They ride different, they feel different and they sound different.

Correct. they are better!


"Every Person born within the limits of the United States, and subject to their jurisdiction, is by virtue of natural law and national law a citizen of the United States. This will not, of course, include persons born in the United States who are foreigners, aliens, who belong to the families of ambassadors or foreign ministers accredited to the Government of the United States, but will include every other class of persons.
Senator Jacob Howard, Co-author of the citizenship clause of the 14th Amendment, 1866.

farmfriend  posted on  2010-09-17   19:02:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#124. To: Original_Intent (#105)

Yes, I have to agree that the evidence of ancient civilization in Africa is more tenuous that other places with more substantial markers. However,

I will bet my life that any advanced ancient southern African (2000 BC or older) civilization will be Sumerian, not some long lost "advanced" Bantu civilization. The Sumerian texts say they colonized southern Africa to mine gold.

And then of course there is Kennewick Man which can only be described as an "Oopart" (Out of Place Artifact) as here we find a Caucasian in a place where conventional theory holds that there should be no caucasians ten thousand years ago when he died in a remote area of Washington State.

He's my fav and was as white as white can be. Please don't be fooled by the attempts to make it appear he was not.

There are more remains like his too.

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Flintlock  posted on  2010-09-17   19:09:29 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#125. To: farmfriend (#123)

Correct. they are better!

Traitor!

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Flintlock  posted on  2010-09-17   19:12:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#126. To: farmfriend (#123) (Edited)

Correct. they are better!

"Better" is in the eye of the beholder. As I said, I like Hondas. But right now, if money were no object, I would find an old panhead or maybe a knucklehead

(so named because the rocker boxes resemble two knuckles on the back of a hand closed into a fist). And they make really cool looking choppers. I am not a big fan of the shovelhead but I do like the old knucks and pans. And I have always loved choppers.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

He (Gordon Duff) also implies that forcibly removing Obama, a Constitution-hating, on-the-down-low, crackhead Communist, is an attack on America, Mom, and apple pie. I swear these military people are worse than useless. Just look around at the condition of the country and tell me if they have fulfilled their oaths to protect the nation from all enemies foreign and domestic.
OsamaBinGoldstein posted on 2010-05-25 9:39:59 ET (2 images) Reply Trace

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#127. To: Flintlock (#124)

It is an interesting study. (By the way thanks for the map which I had not before seen.) Archaeology in North America is hampered by political correctness - it is not popular to observe that there were Caucasoids in North America before the 8th century A.D. at the earliest (St. Brendan). Its "racis'" to note and discover anything which does not fit within the framework of the preferred and "popular" theory. Scientists are just as given to fads and fixed ideas as any other group - Thomas Kuhn proved that and the lamestream scientific community has never forgiven him for it. Just as it is un-PC to note that the Olmec Heads are very definitely Negroid in form, shape, and appearance.

My point of view is simply to avoid fixed and unsupportable judgments such as one's skin tone, eye shape, instep, shoe size, etc., proves anything other than that Homo Sapiens Sapiens comes in more than one flavor. To conclude anything else requires the acceptance of materialist positions unsupported in fact.

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-09-17   19:34:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#128. To: Original_Intent (#127)

Just as it is un-PC to note that the Olmec Heads are very definitely Negroid in form, shape, and appearance.

Yes, I agree the Olmec heads are clearly negroid, but are the heads depictions of the creators or something else?

Nobody seems to know. This I do know: assuming you could get far enough west in the Atlantic Ocean from north west Africa (not sure exactly without figuring it out...say 600 miles + - )you'd pick up the trade winds. These winds could carry a "square rigged" vessel all the way to the Caribbean & Mexico. It's a proven fact that some mummies have traces of cocaine and tobacco in their tissues, products that were only available in the new world. Obviously commerce was being conducted thousands of years ago, but who was involved in it remains a mystery.

Being someone who has lived in African, I didn't see one shred of anything Bantu that could be called civilized or advanced.

But maybe I missed something. (prolly not)

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Flintlock  posted on  2010-09-17   20:07:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#129. To: Eric Stratton (#104)

What do you add regularly besides semi-sexual jokes and womanizing humor?

I don't bore people with non-existent fantasies about moon landings being shot on stages.

"Society is, always has been and always will be a structure for the exploitation and oppression of the majority through systems of political force dictated by an élite, enforced by thugs, uniformed or not, and upheld by a willful ignorance and stupidity on the part of the very majority whom the system oppresses." -- Richard K. Morgan

Turtle  posted on  2010-09-18   11:46:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#130. To: Turtle, Eric Stratton (#129)

I don't bore people with non-existent fantasies about moon landings being shot on stages.

Nor reason, stimulating (other than declasse' prurience) exchange upon anything other than lamestream tabloidism, bloviation, and overblown expressions of your own magnificence. While you may be a legend in your own mind, that is not a very large arena.

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-09-18   11:58:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#131. To: Turtle, All (#129)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

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#132. To: Turtle (#129)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-09-18   13:43:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#133. To: farmfriend, Flintlock (#112) (Edited)

I'm having minor technical problems with one of America's greatest inventions

And since they still use push rods I wouldn't brag about them being a great invention.

It depends on how you define greatness.

They may still use pushrods, but if they weren't great, why does EVERY other manufacturer copy their look and style?

Is not yours just an imitation Harley Davidson?

The greatness may also lie in the fact that with my 1972, I can go anywhere, anytime, and break down, anywhere, any time, and pretty much fix anything that goes wrong with it, by myself, on the side of the road, using rudimentary hand tools, bailing wire and an occasional, readily available set of Chevrolet ignition points.

Do that on an electronic, water cooled, shaft driven imitation Harley Davidson.

Now before you go saying that Hondas never break, come back when your Honda is 38 years old and we'll talk. Incidentally, how many 38 year old Hondas are actually still on the road, ridden daily today? If I've seen one in ten years, that would be a lot. But I will bet that on any given day, ten or more 30+ year old HDs ride past my shop.

So there. :p


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Critter  posted on  2010-09-18   14:25:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#134. To: Critter, farmfriend (#133)

So there. :p

You tell'em!

The last piece of jap crap I owned fell apart after 14,000 miles

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