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Title: Four illegal aliens caught growing pot in Utah wilderness
Source: Immigration Reform Examiner
URL Source: [None]
Published: Sep 16, 2010
Author: Dave Gibson
Post Date: 2010-09-16 11:07:27 by HAPPY2BME-4UM
Keywords: None
Views: 553
Comments: 32

Four illegal aliens caught growing pot in Utah wilderness


Growing operation discovered in Utah
Photo: Garfield County Sheriff's Office/ABC4.com

On Monday, the Garfield County Sheriff’s Office arrested four illegal aliens at a marijuana growing operation, after being spotted by a hunter. Their marijuana crop had a street value of $413,000.

Those arrested were Monica Saldicar, 31, Eleno Angulo, 45, Jesus Ruiz Sepulveda, 51, and Emiliano Arellano, 29, all are Mexican nationals. Sheriff’s deputies also allegedly found a semi-automatic pistol and methamphetamines.

Garfield County Sheriff Danny Perkins told ABC4.com: “I would like to express my appreciation to the bow hunter that called in the tip that led to the arrests today. He handled it perfectly: he spotted someone that seemed out of place, he didn't confront the individual but quickly left the scene and then immediately after called the Sheriff's office. This is how we would like everyone to handle these kind of sightings. We are still concerned because these grows present a serious public safety issue; these growers have weapons and present a threat to anyone they come in contact with. With hunting season underway we ask everyone who is enjoying the out-of-doors to use caution, and if you spot something or someone that seems out of place, please call the Sheriff's office immediately.”

In addition to using U.S. public lands to smuggle drugs into this nation, the Mexican drug cartels are growing huge amounts of marijuana in our national parks.

It is estimated that the cartels produce 30 tons of pot in our parks annually. (1 image)

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#3. To: HAPPY2BME-4UM (#0) (Edited)

I'm really impressed. It was a wilderness until some Mexicans demonstrated that a cash crop could be cultivated there.

By the way, do you know what Mexicans called Utah 180 years ago?

"Ours".

Shoonra  posted on  2010-09-16   11:46:18 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Shoonra (#3)

By the way, do you know what Mexicans called Utah 180 years ago?

"Ours".

It never belonged to Mexico. Spain claimed it and when the Spanish left Mexico, Mexico claimed it. Who says they ever owned it? Them? Means nothing.

I might as well claim the moon.

Turtle  posted on  2010-09-16   12:01:09 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Turtle, Shoonra (#5)

It never belonged to Mexico.

Wrong. Turtle might have won the race, but then they had lunch.

" Mexico lost Texas (1836), and after defeat in the war with the U.S. (1846– 1848), it lost the area that is now California, Nevada, and Utah, most of Arizona and New Mexico, and parts of Wyoming and Colorado under the Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo."

Read more: Mexico: History, Geography, Government, & Culture — Infoplease.com www.infoplease. com/ipa/A0107779.html#ixzz0zi5qLakk

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Lysander_Spooner  posted on  2010-09-16   12:17:10 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Lysander_Spooner (#7)

" Mexico lost Texas (1836), and after defeat in the war with the U.S. (1846– 1848), it lost the area that is now California, Nevada, and Utah, most of Arizona and New Mexico, and parts of Wyoming and Colorado under the Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo."

listen carefully. Mexico claimed it had these southwest states because spain claimed they had them. and mexico defeated spain in a revolution in the early 1800's. that is why. but mexico did not collect taxes from these regions. So did they really rule. Texas and California each had an armed rebellion against Mexico in the 1830's. In both cases mexico lost and the people of those states set up their own independent government. Mexico claimed central america too at one time. Doesn't mean they got it.

Russia claimed California as theirs'. They had a settlement in northern California. Doesn't mean california was a part of russia.

Red Jones  posted on  2010-09-16   13:10:35 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Red Jones (#13)

listen carefully.

I stopped right there.

Piss off mate.

Parts of Colorado are still Mexican, culturally speaking.

I frankly don't give a rats ass about either gunverment, their imaginary lines and who they plan to screw next.

Lysander_Spooner  posted on  2010-09-16   15:00:27 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Lysander_Spooner (#16)

Lysander, you named a number of states that you said were part of mexico prior to the late 1840's. It is highly offensive to me for you to speak that way. because it is false. you're engaging in racial conflict you should leave alone.

prior to that treaty you mention there is no record of a mexican government office or building in any of those states. there is no evidence the mexican government collected taxes from any of those states. and as I said California and Texas each had independent governments established in the 1830's after successful warfare against Mexico.

there were a small number of mexican people living north of the current border back then. and these people were not loyal to the mexican government, they had no experience paying taxes to it at all, no particiation with it at all. and in both rebellions of texas and california there were lots of ethnic mexicans doing the rebelling. In california they rejected the name 'mexican' and referred to their ethnic group as californian. in texas they called themselves texan.

if you want to be offended that I correct you, then be so offended. but I'm not going to let you tell lies about this region of the country.

just because the mexicans produce a map showing some american states as a part of their country does not make it so. The Russians had a map that showed california a part of russia. does that make it so? You could say the same for the french, english and spanish. doesn't matter.

Red Jones  posted on  2010-09-16   16:03:56 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Red Jones (#18)

I apologize if my "piss off mate" was taken the wrong way, I did not mean to offend, it was meant in good humor, thus the reference to "mate".

I do understand your reference to the "States" doing this and doing "that", but my point was that outside of "Government" there is "culture", and the two are distinctly different.

I am not offended by what you say, and am not trying to engage in racial conflict.

My point is this, what ever flag waves over a given territory does not determine it's culture. For example, if I go to Miami, part of the US, state of Florida, it is still Cuban culturally. Just like parts of Colorado and Utah were Mexican and still are. If you have never read "My Enemy the State" by Albert Nock, it is a good read, a classic. It delves into the difference between "The State" and "Culture".

I am interested in trends and making the best of what the world presents to me. It appears to me that we are in the waning stages of "Empire" here in the USA and devolution seems to be the trend. The USA, like the USSR may come unglued in the not too distant future, hopefully peacefully, but possibly not, and it interests me how things might go. The areas of the country that are Mexican "culturally" or had been will likely go that way, the more northern territories likely will go European, etc. I am not interested in inciting racial strife, but having a grasp on where in the world the world is headed can serve to make ones life better, and the lives that are important to you better also. Peace, Mate.

Lysander_Spooner  posted on  2010-09-16   19:45:51 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#22. To: Lysander_Spooner (#20)

Your #20 essentially reinforces what the Cubans in Florida and the millions of illegal aliens will eventually TRY and do - OVERTHROW THE UNITED STATES.

BRING IT ON

HAPPY2BME-4UM  posted on  2010-09-16 21:20:09 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: Lysander_Spooner (#20)

I'm a little sensitive.

But I don't believe the mexican flag actually ever flew over at least most of those states you mentioned. The mexicans claimed it, but they didn't actually have a presence here as a government. There were mexicans who lived in arizona,colorado, etc., those other states in the early 1800's, but those people were not loyal to the mexican government, did not pay taxes, had no contact with mexican government.

when mexico tried to collect taxes in california and texas they were met with rebellion. and the rebels in both cases included ethnic mexicans. some who rejected the label 'mexican'.

Miami used to be a more american city. There was a time when it did not have a latim american flavor. The cubans and other latinos are new arrivals of the last 50 years.

at the time of the mexican-american war of 1846-1848 of all ethnic mexican people about 5% lived in what is now the US. Since that time there has been a constant movement of mexicans north.

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