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Title: Four illegal aliens caught growing pot in Utah wilderness
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Immigration Reform Examiner
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Published: Sep 16, 2010
Author: Dave Gibson
Post Date: 2010-09-16 11:07:27 by HAPPY2BME-4UM
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Views: 332
Comments: 32
On Monday, the Garfield County Sheriff’s Office arrested four illegal aliens at a marijuana growing operation, after being spotted by a hunter. Their marijuana crop had a street value of $413,000. Those arrested were Monica Saldicar, 31, Eleno Angulo, 45, Jesus Ruiz Sepulveda, 51, and Emiliano Arellano, 29, all are Mexican nationals. Sheriff’s deputies also allegedly found a semi-automatic pistol and methamphetamines. Garfield County Sheriff Danny Perkins told ABC4.com: “I would like to express my appreciation to the bow hunter that called in the tip that led to the arrests today. He handled it perfectly: he spotted someone that seemed out of place, he didn't confront the individual but quickly left the scene and then immediately after called the Sheriff's office. This is how we would like everyone to handle these kind of sightings. We are still concerned because these grows present a serious public safety issue; these growers have weapons and present a threat to anyone they come in contact with. With hunting season underway we ask everyone who is enjoying the out-of-doors to use caution, and if you spot something or someone that seems out of place, please call the Sheriff's office immediately.” In addition to using U.S. public lands to smuggle drugs into this nation, the Mexican drug cartels are growing huge amounts of marijuana in our national parks. It is estimated that the cartels produce 30 tons of pot in our parks annually.
Four illegal aliens caught growing pot in Utah wilderness
Growing operation discovered in Utah
Photo: Garfield County Sheriff's Office/ABC4.com
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#1. To: HAPPY2BME-4UM (#0)
Round up the real criminals: cops, judges, lawyers and politicians.
Do these dumbass bureaucrats really think they're doing any good?
"Society is, always has been and always will be a structure for the exploitation and oppression of the majority through systems of political force dictated by an élite, enforced by thugs, uniformed or not, and upheld by a willful ignorance and stupidity on the part of the very majority whom the system oppresses." -- Richard K. Morgan
I'm really impressed. It was a wilderness until some Mexicans demonstrated that a cash crop could be cultivated there. By the way, do you know what Mexicans called Utah 180 years ago? "Ours".
"Ours". Hey, that's great. I agree with you...sooooooo Give me your name, address and phone # and I'll forward it to the appropriate Tribal authorizes and make sure YOUR land is given back to the Indians.
WWGPD? - (What Would General Pinochet Do?)
"Ours". It never belonged to Mexico. Spain claimed it and when the Spanish left Mexico, Mexico claimed it. Who says they ever owned it? Them? Means nothing. I might as well claim the moon.
"Society is, always has been and always will be a structure for the exploitation and oppression of the majority through systems of political force dictated by an élite, enforced by thugs, uniformed or not, and upheld by a willful ignorance and stupidity on the part of the very majority whom the system oppresses." -- Richard K. Morgan
Colorado means Ruddy or Red in Spanish. At one time part of Colorado was Mexican.
Wrong. Turtle might have won the race, but then they had lunch. " Mexico lost Texas (1836), and after defeat in the war with the U.S. (1846– 1848), it lost the area that is now California, Nevada, and Utah, most of Arizona and New Mexico, and parts of Wyoming and Colorado under the Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo." Read more: Mexico: History, Geography, Government, & Culture — Infoplease.com www.infoplease. com/ipa/A0107779.html#ixzz0zi5qLakk
Who said Mexico owned it? Mexico. It meant nothing. The Indians were there before the Mexicans. How can Mexico say it owned Indian land? Land belongs to those who can hold it.
"Society is, always has been and always will be a structure for the exploitation and oppression of the majority through systems of political force dictated by an élite, enforced by thugs, uniformed or not, and upheld by a willful ignorance and stupidity on the part of the very majority whom the system oppresses." -- Richard K. Morgan
UR like a dam mangina. Just can't be wrong...lol. Get back in UR shell, or I'll heat up a big pot of water.
And at one time your car was owned by the factory, until they SOLD it to you. Sold - The transfer of property from one owner to another in exchange for something of value. Mexico SOLD us the land and we paid for it fair and square. I don't care if the wets say the Treaty of Guadalupe was signed under duress and that if they didn't sign it we would have taken the land. They DID sign it and we DID pay them. It sounds like sellers remorse to me.
WWGPD? - (What Would General Pinochet Do?)
spain claimed the current US southwest and central america too as their own. and so when spanish colonialism fell in Mexico the Mexicans said they inherited this colonial empire. they didn't get central america because they (the mexicans) did not live there and they didn't get the US southwest for the exact same reason. France, England, Spain, Mexico, Russia, they all claimed that california was their's. doesn't mean they got it. The facts are that nobody who lived in the current US southwest ever paid taxes to the Mexican government even once. A few mexicans (5% of their total national population) lived on our side of the border. But they were not loyal to the mexican government. In california there was a rebellion around 1835. The californians won independence from Mexico. The californians were in fact ethnic mexican who wanted to break off of mexico for reasons I stated, they had no loyalty to the Mexico city government. Shortly after Texas rebelled from Mexico and likewise won its independence. Americans who say that the southwest properly belongs to or did belong to Mexico are idiots. they're yielding to a colonial assertion that was simply false.
Psalms 137:1 By the rivers of Babylon, there we sat down, yea, we wept, when we remembered Zion.
It sounds like sellers remorse to me. Sounds a little like Eminent Domain to me. They first offer the property owner some money for their land. When that doesn't work, they evict by force. So if someone is forced to sell their home to the government and they acquiesce to doing so, then their is no legitimate reason for any bitterness or remorse? It is after all, the state involved in both "transactions". Everything government does, past and present should be critically scrutinized regardless of who they interacted with.
Democrats don't mind war as long as they can have big government. Republicans don't mind big government as long as they can have war.
listen carefully. Mexico claimed it had these southwest states because spain claimed they had them. and mexico defeated spain in a revolution in the early 1800's. that is why. but mexico did not collect taxes from these regions. So did they really rule. Texas and California each had an armed rebellion against Mexico in the 1830's. In both cases mexico lost and the people of those states set up their own independent government. Mexico claimed central america too at one time. Doesn't mean they got it. Russia claimed California as theirs'. They had a settlement in northern California. Doesn't mean california was a part of russia.
Psalms 137:1 By the rivers of Babylon, there we sat down, yea, we wept, when we remembered Zion.
I agree. I always ask if it was good for white people.
The noblest man will marry the lowest daughter of a base family, if only she brings in money. And a lady will share her bed with a foul rich man, preferring gold to pedigree. Money is all. Good breeds with bad and race is lost. -- Theognis
I was making a historical statement, not a political one.
I stopped right there. Piss off mate. Parts of Colorado are still Mexican, culturally speaking. I frankly don't give a rats ass about either gunverment, their imaginary lines and who they plan to screw next.
then don't listen. be an ignorant jack-ass as you were prattling on about things you know nothing about. You said the southwest US brokeoff of Mexico in 1840's. Not true. california and texas both had independent governments established in the 1830's after their wars against mexico. and per the argument I made the other states were not part of Mexico. You've been listening to lies and you blame me.
Psalms 137:1 By the rivers of Babylon, there we sat down, yea, we wept, when we remembered Zion.
Lysander, you named a number of states that you said were part of mexico prior to the late 1840's. It is highly offensive to me for you to speak that way. because it is false. you're engaging in racial conflict you should leave alone. prior to that treaty you mention there is no record of a mexican government office or building in any of those states. there is no evidence the mexican government collected taxes from any of those states. and as I said California and Texas each had independent governments established in the 1830's after successful warfare against Mexico. there were a small number of mexican people living north of the current border back then. and these people were not loyal to the mexican government, they had no experience paying taxes to it at all, no particiation with it at all. and in both rebellions of texas and california there were lots of ethnic mexicans doing the rebelling. In california they rejected the name 'mexican' and referred to their ethnic group as californian. in texas they called themselves texan. if you want to be offended that I correct you, then be so offended. but I'm not going to let you tell lies about this region of the country. just because the mexicans produce a map showing some american states as a part of their country does not make it so. The Russians had a map that showed california a part of russia. does that make it so? You could say the same for the french, english and spanish. doesn't matter.
Psalms 137:1 By the rivers of Babylon, there we sat down, yea, we wept, when we remembered Zion.
Or Manifest Destiny I believe in Manifest Destiny. I don't have a problem with our taking land by force from Mexico or Canada or France or Spain, or Russia. As it turned out we bought the land, but the Mexicans knew if they didn't sell, they'd have to fight (again) We bought Florida and Louisiana the same way, not sure about Alaska. If we hadn't already fought 2 wars against Britain, I'm sure we would have pursued our invasion of Canada. Too bad we didn't and history will show it was one of our greatest mistakes. BTW, how did Mexico talk the Indians into becoming Mexicans? How did the French do it? It's a hardball world and sometimes you have to take want you want, if you don't the King surely will.
WWGPD? - (What Would General Pinochet Do?)
I apologize if my "piss off mate" was taken the wrong way, I did not mean to offend, it was meant in good humor, thus the reference to "mate". I do understand your reference to the "States" doing this and doing "that", but my point was that outside of "Government" there is "culture", and the two are distinctly different. I am not offended by what you say, and am not trying to engage in racial conflict. My point is this, what ever flag waves over a given territory does not determine it's culture. For example, if I go to Miami, part of the US, state of Florida, it is still Cuban culturally. Just like parts of Colorado and Utah were Mexican and still are. If you have never read "My Enemy the State" by Albert Nock, it is a good read, a classic. It delves into the difference between "The State" and "Culture". I am interested in trends and making the best of what the world presents to me. It appears to me that we are in the waning stages of "Empire" here in the USA and devolution seems to be the trend. The USA, like the USSR may come unglued in the not too distant future, hopefully peacefully, but possibly not, and it interests me how things might go. The areas of the country that are Mexican "culturally" or had been will likely go that way, the more northern territories likely will go European, etc. I am not interested in inciting racial strife, but having a grasp on where in the world the world is headed can serve to make ones life better, and the lives that are important to you better also. Peace, Mate.
============================================ Factual and excellent dissertation.
U.S. Constitution - Article IV, Section 4: NO BORDERS + NO LAWS = NO COUNTRY
Your #20 essentially reinforces what the Cubans in Florida and the millions of illegal aliens will eventually TRY and do - OVERTHROW THE UNITED STATES. BRING IT ON
U.S. Constitution - Article IV, Section 4: NO BORDERS + NO LAWS = NO COUNTRY
Roger that! Cut off the water, cut off the power, roll in the Artillery,and turn it to rubble.
WWGPD? - (What Would General Pinochet Do?)
Seward's Purchase ......1896???
"Satan / Cheney in "08" Are you Israeli ?
He could have easily killed all 4 of those invaders and nobody would have been the wiser. American archery hunters are the craftiest hunters on the planet. These mexicon pot farmers need to start feeling some heat, but our FedGov will only act when they absolutely have to. I think it will take a few unauthorized killings to get the message out that mexicons are not wanted in America.
__________________________________________________________ Why do you ask....."mate"?
WWGPD? - (What Would General Pinochet Do?)
I'm a little sensitive. But I don't believe the mexican flag actually ever flew over at least most of those states you mentioned. The mexicans claimed it, but they didn't actually have a presence here as a government. There were mexicans who lived in arizona,colorado, etc., those other states in the early 1800's, but those people were not loyal to the mexican government, did not pay taxes, had no contact with mexican government. when mexico tried to collect taxes in california and texas they were met with rebellion. and the rebels in both cases included ethnic mexicans. some who rejected the label 'mexican'. Miami used to be a more american city. There was a time when it did not have a latim american flavor. The cubans and other latinos are new arrivals of the last 50 years. at the time of the mexican-american war of 1846-1848 of all ethnic mexican people about 5% lived in what is now the US. Since that time there has been a constant movement of mexicans north.
Psalms 137:1 By the rivers of Babylon, there we sat down, yea, we wept, when we remembered Zion.
I know people of Spanish ancestry who live in northern New Mexico. Not Mexican - - Spanish. They never considered themselves Mexican, even though their ancestors have been in that area for hundreds of years.
"Society is, always has been and always will be a structure for the exploitation and oppression of the majority through systems of political force dictated by an élite, enforced by thugs, uniformed or not, and upheld by a willful ignorance and stupidity on the part of the very majority whom the system oppresses." -- Richard K. Morgan
Your comment above reminds me of the Israeli policy toward the Palestinians, I thought you might be Israeli ?
No worries, we all can be at times. I did not know that about Mexicans, I'm beginning to like tacos even more :)
Seriously, Bring it on !? lol Are you a BushBot ?
#2. To: HAPPY2BME-4UM (#0)
#3. To: HAPPY2BME-4UM (#0)
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#4. To: Shoonra (#3)
By the way, do you know what Mexicans called Utah 180 years ago?
#5. To: Shoonra (#3)
By the way, do you know what Mexicans called Utah 180 years ago?
#6. To: Shoonra (#3)
#7. To: Turtle, Shoonra (#5)
It never belonged to Mexico.
#8. To: Lysander_Spooner (#7)
" Mexico lost Texas (1836), and after defeat in the war with the U.S. (1846– 1848), it lost the area that is now California, Nevada, and Utah, most of Arizona and New Mexico, and parts of Wyoming and Colorado under the Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo."
#9. To: Turtle (#8)
#10. To: Lysander_Spooner (#6)
(Edited)
At one time part of Colorado was Mexican.
#11. To: Turtle (#5)
#12. To: Flintlock (#10)
Mexico SOLD us the land and we paid for it fair and square. I don't care if the wets say the Treaty of Guadalupe was signed under duress and that if they didn't sign it we would have taken the land. They DID sign it and we DID pay them.
#13. To: Lysander_Spooner (#7)
" Mexico lost Texas (1836), and after defeat in the war with the U.S. (1846– 1848), it lost the area that is now California, Nevada, and Utah, most of Arizona and New Mexico, and parts of Wyoming and Colorado under the Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo."
#14. To: PnbC (#12)
Everything government does, past and present should be critically scrutinized regardless of who they interacted with.
#15. To: Flintlock (#10)
#16. To: Red Jones (#13)
listen carefully.
#17. To: Lysander_Spooner (#16)
#18. To: Lysander_Spooner (#16)
#19. To: PnbC (#12)
Sounds a little like Eminent Domain to me
#20. To: Red Jones (#18)
#21. To: Red Jones (#13)
listen carefully ..
#22. To: Lysander_Spooner (#20)
#23. To: HAPPY2BME-4UM (#22)
BRING IT ON
#24. To: Flintlock (#19)
not sure about Alaska.
#25. To: Flintlock (#23)
#26. To: HAPPY2BME-4UM (#0)
“I would like to express my appreciation to the bow hunter..."
"This man is Jesus,” shouted one man, spilling his Guinness as Barack Obama began his inaugural address. “When will he come to Kenya to save us?"
-Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941
#27. To: Lysander_Spooner (#25)
Are you Israeli ?
#28. To: Lysander_Spooner (#20)
#29. To: Red Jones (#11)
#30. To: Flintlock (#27)
Cut off the water, cut off the power, roll in the Artillery,and turn it to rubble
#31. To: Red Jones (#28)
when mexico tried to collect taxes in california and texas they were met with rebellion. and the rebels in both cases included ethnic mexicans. some who rejected the label 'mexican'.
#32. To: Flintlock (#23)
BRING IT ON
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