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Title: The Black King of Scotland
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Published: Sep 17, 2010
Author: Rasta Livewire
Post Date: 2010-09-17 12:06:09 by Turtle
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Views: 752
Comments: 18

A curious aspect of the early history of Scotland concerns various stories around Kenneth. King Kenneth was also known as ‘Kenneth the Niger’ or Kenneth Dubh, a surname which means ‘the black man’.

It is a matter of history that many seafaring warriors were North African, travelled via Iberia into Europe, and joined in many cultures and held power and position. Niger Val Dubh lived and reigned over certain black divisions in Scotland, and some histories state that a race known as ‘the sons of the blacks’ succeeded him. (e.g. see JA Rogers, Sex and Race).

Kenneth III was king of Scotland from 997 to 1005. He was the son of King Dubh (Dub mac Mail Choluim – 962-967), fourth cousin of the previous king Constantine III, and first cousin of his successor Malcolm II. Kenneth was the last king of Scotland to succeed to the throne through the tanistry system, whereby the succession was shared between two family lines and the dying king named his successor from the other family line. This system led to constant struggle between the ruling families and was abandoned. Kenneth and his son Giric were both killed at Monzievaird, Tayside in 1005.

His first cousin Malcolm succeeded him and abolished the tanistry system by killing all of his male descendants. However Kenneth had a granddaughter, Gruoch, via his daughter Boite, whose first husband was Gillacomgain. They had a son called Lulach. She then married King Macbeth I of Scotland (becoming Lady Macbeth). On the death of Macbeth her son via her first marriage, Kenneth III’s great grandson, succeeded to the throne, to become King Lulach of Scotland. According to this history, the blood of Kenneth flows through the royal houses of Scotland.

This story captures a curious fact about the Gaels from Gallicia – some were dark and have left many traces in Irish, Welsh and Scots clans.


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I am of Celtic ancestry. "Black" means black hair or black-hearted, not negro.

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#1. To: Original_Intent (#0)

I do enjoy tormenting the ignorant.

Perhaps I mean stupid.

"Society is, always has been and always will be a structure for the exploitation and oppression of the majority through systems of political force dictated by an élite, enforced by thugs, uniformed or not, and upheld by a willful ignorance and stupidity on the part of the very majority whom the system oppresses." -- Richard K. Morgan

Turtle  posted on  2010-09-17   12:07:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Turtle (#0) (Edited)

Black nobility in Europe? According to black Dutch researcher Egmond Codfried and author of the book "Belle van Zuylen's forgotten grandmother" there was black nobility in Europe, but there history and images were later carefully tucked away. His claims are controversial, and of course not accepted by European historians and the man in the street.

But why is it so important to show that black or coloured people were part of the European nobility? Codfried's motivation is to show that Europe was never as 'white' as we have been taught. Black people were always in Europe, even among the European nobility.

afroeurope.blogspot.com/2...k-history-black-european- nobility.html

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X-15  posted on  2010-09-17   12:14:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Turtle, all (#1)

I do enjoy tormenting the ignorant.

Perhaps I mean stupid.

It is fun. Especially when you see the manoeuvrings they use in order to try and blame whitey for the black "mans" many many problems.

People like this don't see their own "racism". They are saying blacks are just too stupid and too easily led by the nose by their white superiors. They do it because it's easier to blame the white man than it is to blame the niggers racial stupidity.

And when it comes to the extremely elusive "magic niggers" that the white guilters and other libtards try and make out to be typical and (gag) equal to us, we don't need them. If they went away, no one would notice.

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PSUSA  posted on  2010-09-17   12:26:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Turtle (#0)

I am of Celtic ancestry. "Black" means black hair or black-hearted, not negro.

The Milesians. The ancestoral race not talked about on these islands. lol

From Blank Cheque Ireland... to Bounced Cheque Ireland.

irishthatcherite  posted on  2010-09-17   12:28:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Turtle (#0) (Edited)

I am of Celtic ancestry. "Black" means black hair or black- hearted, not negro

I am "Black Irish" with a bit of Iroquois.

Dark black hair, green eyes, ruddy complexion, love a good fight, and a good ol fashioned scalping when we are done ;)

It is more likely that a group of Spanish soldiers serving under Irish chiefs around the same time stayed in the country long enough to father children. Others believe that the Black Irish are descendants of a people from the Iberian peninsula who migrated to both Ireland and Britain over 2500 years ago. Recent genetic research has supported this claim. According to this I am Iberian too, I always could dance, and play Futball, so maybe they are right!

source: www.wisegeek.com/what-is-black-irish.htm

Lysander_Spooner  posted on  2010-09-17   13:16:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Lysander_Spooner (#5)

Others believe that the Black Irish are descendants of a people from the Iberian peninsula who migrated to both Ireland and Britain over 2500 years ago.

...and survivors of the Spanish Armada...

Somewhere, Jimmy Carter is laughing and saying, "Finally! I won't be the worst President ever!"

mirage  posted on  2010-09-17   15:04:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Turtle, Original_Intent (#1)

I do enjoy tormenting the ignorant.

Quit picking on my buddy, Original_Intent; he is currently researching how the Rothchilds and Bilderburgers planned, executed and got away with both the 9/11 and the BP disasters.

"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET

buckeroo  posted on  2010-09-17   15:15:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: buckeroo (#7)

Quit picking on my buddy, Original_Intent; he is currently researching how the Rothchilds and Bilderburgers planned, executed and got away with both the 9/11 and the BP disasters.

Good luck with that. While he's at, he can find the three shooters who targeted Kennedy (the ones who were paid by Castro, the CIA and the Mafia) and also find the stage the moon landing was shot upon.

"Society is, always has been and always will be a structure for the exploitation and oppression of the majority through systems of political force dictated by an élite, enforced by thugs, uniformed or not, and upheld by a willful ignorance and stupidity on the part of the very majority whom the system oppresses." -- Richard K. Morgan

Turtle  posted on  2010-09-18   11:40:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Turtle, buckeroo (#8)

Now children, playing again and saying snippy things because you can't corral a clear though or cogent analysis if it bit either of you on your capacious asses.

You may now go back to sleep or chewing your cud whichever you prefer

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-09-18   11:44:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Lysander_Spooner (#5)

Welsh, Irish, Assiniboine, Powhatan, and either Sioux or Cheyenne.

Did you say FOOTBALL? Me Noseguard.

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-09-18   11:47:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Original_Intent, turtle (#9)

Now children, playing again and saying snippy things because you can't corral a clear though or cogent analysis if it bit either of you on your capacious asses.

O_I....

Irrespective of your assumptions, can you please list some facts: names, places, times, methods and organizational structure in AND about your continuing rants concerning your folly of 9/11, BP and so forth upon the Internet?

No? I thought so. But I am braced to see another 20,000 word essay filled with polysyllables by Original_Intent post... and filled with anything but FACT.

"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET

buckeroo  posted on  2010-09-18   14:22:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: buckeroo (#11)

thought so. But I am braced to see another 20,000 word essay filled with polysyllables

Nice and braced eh?

Good batch of Sterno™?

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-09-18   21:23:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: buckeroo, Original_Intent (#11)

Kennedy's driver turned around and shot him...it's not the Titanic at the bottom of the ocean but its sister ship....LBJ and Bush were involved in killing Kennedy...BP planned the oil gusher...I suspect the belief in non- existent conspiracies might be the main sign of incipient Alzheimer's.

"Society is, always has been and always will be a structure for the exploitation and oppression of the majority through systems of political force dictated by an élite, enforced by thugs, uniformed or not, and upheld by a willful ignorance and stupidity on the part of the very majority whom the system oppresses." -- Richard K. Morgan

Turtle  posted on  2010-09-19   13:40:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Turdle, Turtle, abraxas, all (#13) (Edited)

I do so love the way you and your ilk insist upon putting words in other people's mouths - it is ever so much easier than actually supporting a position, but that would require you to actually think, and we all know that hurts your poor widdle head.

Simply attack with Argumentum Ad Hominem and then follow it with one or more of the Twenty-Five Ways To Suppress Truth: The Rules of Disinformation to support your ad hominem wailing.

It is always a real giveaway when you have to include things the other person did not say and then associate them with other speculations damaging to the criminals who pull your strings (whether directly or simply because you are so programmed that anything not in keeping with official propaganda is immediately rejected since it does not agree with your propaganda).

Lets face it, the reality is that you would like to discredit me, but so far I have stayed about ten steps ahead of you.

The debate you would like to create is me tying myself up in knots refuting each of your lies, however that I will not do.

Poor Turdle, so transparent, soooooooo second tier.

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-09-19   14:21:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Original_Intent (#12)

Nice and braced eh?

Good batch of Sterno™?

You always create a fantastick yarn. One of these days, you could slow down and be a virtuous man with some self-dignity and capability to be virtuous by not blaming all of these "secret societies" with the madness and mayhem of constant social upheaval.

One of these days, you shall discover that because of the social dynamics in force around the world with about seven BILLION people attempting to survive on a budget so thin that many are disenfranchised with the world, that then, you might discover yourself belonging to one or more of those same "secret societies" ..... just a closet case.

"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET

buckeroo  posted on  2010-09-19   21:46:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: buckeroo (#15)

...by not blaming all of these "secret societies"...

To quote Ronald Raygun: "There you goooo again."

"The world is as is not as we would have it be." ~ Marion Zimmer Bradley

We both know that I don't, as a habit, speak in such generalities without clarifying my meaning. When I speak of those who pull the strings I generally name them for who they are "Banksters and Psychiatrists" and notably the Rockefuckers and Rotchilds - the dynamic duo of evil. While I don't document it in detail in every post I have put up plenty of links, as have others, which show how these forces play out in the real world. Because you choose to live in a fantasy world where all of the evil in our world happens "by chance and coincidence" you are perfectly entitled to do so Peter Pan, but excuse me if I prefer to follow the evidenciary trail and use that strange and foreign thought process called logic and deduction.

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-09-19   21:55:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Original_Intent (#16)

I have put up plenty of links, as have others, which show how these forces play out in the real world.

But it is silly to abuse your tired arguments with the same shill ideas that lead nowhere, don't ya think? If you have no facts but mere speculation as you GUM your toothless jaws together piping nothing more than suspicion and disgust at the world's social/economic/political turbulent issues and candy-wrap an expose in a convincing manner.. it gets tiring.

You are a GREAT poster, too. Your talents go nowhere without FACTS as opposed to reciting something from a used recirculating and old Mel Brooks' film, High Anxiety.

Lighten up.

... excuse me if I prefer to follow the evidenciary trail and use that strange and foreign thought process called logic and deduction.

Subjective intellectual thought processes alone means nothing within the REAL world when you ignore objective facts, figures and subsequent analysis combining and cross coupling the two forms of observations concerning inference and interpretation about the world around us.

To be persuasive, you require details in the western world to explain your position.

"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET

buckeroo  posted on  2010-09-19   22:25:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Original_Intent (#10)

Nice mix Brah!

Futball, said I.

I was a Striker, natural scorer, or at least that's what the ladies say ;)

I have a noseguard story: Coach tells the kids to make sure they all have their nosegaurds next practice or they will sit. One of the Mother's exasperated before next practice says she couldn't find noseguards anywhere, dumb beotch took the coach literally..haha !!

Lysander_Spooner  posted on  2010-09-22   10:44:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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