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Title: Sheriff Joe Arpaio wants armed posse to enforce illegal immigration laws
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KTVK-TV -- Phoenix / azfamily.com
URL Source: http://www.azfamily.com/news/local/ ... mmigration-laws-103017899.html
Published: Sep 15, 2010
Author: Alicia E. Barrón
Post Date: 2010-09-17 13:00:26 by Big Meanie
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Views: 253
Comments: 21
PHOENIX – Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio says he is ramping up his fight against illegal immigration and is calling on armed volunteers to do the patrols. Sheriff Joe is always talking about his department’s efforts to crack down on illegal immigration but now he wants to commission a posse whose only job will be to enforce illegal immigration and human smuggling laws. The sheriff explains, “We have 57 different posses. I want 58.” Arpaio says posse 58 will be devoted solely to illegal immigration. “I want a little specialized unit. I think it's time to do that.” Details are sparse but, like the sheriff's other posses, this one will be made up of armed volunteers who will patrol rural areas looking for border crossers and human smugglers. The sheriff explains, “I want to concentrate more in the desert, maybe that’s where our air posse helicopters can help out because a lot of smugglers are crossing the desert. I like to get to them before they get to Phoenix.” Latino activist and Arpaio-foe Salvador Reza says Arpaio's announcement is meaningless because the Maricopa County Sheriff’s Office already does sweeps and patrols. “He does this to create havoc and also to create fear,” Reza says. He says volunteer posse members who do not have full police training will likely make mistakes. Reza says, “The posse are just a bunch of inept people that are running around in sheriff’s marked cars.” While others are likening Arpaio's latest posse to a vigilante patrol group much like the one lead by neo-Nazis that made headlines earlier this summer, Arpaio says his men are trained. According to MCSO documents, posse members are required to get at least 16 hours of training in addition to firearms training. The sheriff says, “We do give them training on law enforcement but not the same as a deputy sheriff, but they have authority to make arrest when they’re operating under our supervision.” The sheriff says the new posse will be mobilized within three weeks. He says the posse will be outfitted with appropriate hardware and gear but it is still not clear what exactly that will entail.
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#1. To: ferret (#0)
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Instant bumper sticker / T-shirt.
The noblest man will marry the lowest daughter of a base family, if only she brings in money. And a lady will share her bed with a foul rich man, preferring gold to pedigree. Money is all. Good breeds with bad and race is lost. -- Theognis
Sheriff Joe is always talking about his department’s efforts to crack down on illegal immigration but now he wants to commission a posse whose only job will be to enforce illegal immigration and human smuggling laws. The sheriff explains, “We have 57 different posses. I want 58.” I
The Sheriff is the direct law enforcement arm of the people.
"Every Person born within the limits of the United States, and subject to their jurisdiction, is by virtue of natural law and national law a citizen of the United States. This will not, of course, include persons born in the United States who are foreigners, aliens, who belong to the families of ambassadors or foreign ministers accredited to the Government of the United States, but will include every other class of persons. my view on Sheriff Joe is that he is a puppet of the people who rule. His job is to divide us up and to be ultimately disgraced and discredited thus embittering some people. He's already embittered many ethnic mexicans and others. Sheriff Joe has been chastised in the past for putting guns in the hands of civilians and calling them a posse. Its not a good idea. He builds these posses for political support. Right now he is engaging on a hot issue where he knows he's not supposed to arm the civilians and point them at the illegals like this. www.azcentral.com/news/el...leave-for-misconduct.html Sheriff Joe is currently being prosecuted by the federal government and both the state and county governments are as well investigating him or his top people. The world is closing in on him. The media is increasingly presenting him in a negative light. They're going to have more bad stories about him He will likely be removed from office before his current 4 year term is over at the end of 2012. Sheriff Joe is a psy-op - thats my opinion.
Psalms 137:1 By the rivers of Babylon, there we sat down, yea, we wept, when we remembered Zion.
Put a hunnert dollar bounty on beaners and I am off to AZ.
Yesterday, on a Fox News interview Sheriff Joe Arpaio had, he said he had up to THREE THOUSAND members in various posses under his command. And these posse members are armed. That is more than enough manpower and firepower to make most armies think twice about messing with him.
there's been controversy in the past about Sheriff Joe's posses. I thought that he was not allowed to give them guns. Because these are amateur police officers and there's been some bad incidents with them. Joe is just getting public attention now at a time when the investigations are closing in on him.
Psalms 137:1 By the rivers of Babylon, there we sat down, yea, we wept, when we remembered Zion.
Sure he can. Sheriffs in this U.S. have a LOT of power. He also has the power to escort federal agents to the country border of his jurisdiction, to expel them from his county.
Posse 58 I'm sure they have their own. "Posse 58" - Head em up and, Move em out!
The armed Militia of free citizens by any other name ... Go Sheriff Joe Go!
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
Would this be the same federal government that closed in on Randy Weaver? The Branch Davidians? The same federal government that refuses to investigate voter intimidation in Philadelphia by the new Black Panther Party? That considers returning vets who are pro-life, and carry pocket Constitutions home grown terrorists? What are the exact federal charges against Sheriff Joe, and why should we care what the federal government thinks about anyone who they dislike?
Total BS! I guess you would rather have the illegal invasion continue and apparently you want it to continue unabated. Shame on you. I see you have been hoodwinked to believe all the crap the media throws your way. You aren't fit to be protected by sheriff Joe's posse.
I live in Sheriff Joe's county. I'm not going to bother putting up the negative info on sheriff joe or recounting the stories I've heard of him. I did support him many years ago. He's been sheriff for about 18 years. as I said above, things are closing in on sheriff joe. www.azcentral.com/news/el...-supervisors-demands.html believe it or not the total number of illegal immigrants that sheriff joe catches each year is insignificant in the big picture in putting a dent in the local illegal immigrant population. He has succeeded mainly in inflaming anti-american and anti-blanco attitudes among an ethnic group that is rapidly becoming the majority. If we were to desire to keep the illegals out, then we would systematically audit employers' payrolls to seek the illegals. then we would strongly punish the employers. That is the way to keep the illegals out. Sheriff Joe is not doing that. Perhaps such actions would be outside his authority as sheriff. Perhaps President obama should take the lead here. SB1070 does nothing to deter employers from hiring illegals. They do it every day. I am 100% certain that they feel there is no penalty on them for doing this even today. I know illegal immigrants who have been recently hired by employers. I know employers who have hired them. I've listened to the top managers at firms talk about the risks. Per federal law, if an employer takes photo-copies of the illegal's documents prior to hiring them, the documents appear to be legit, and if the employer keeps these photo-copies in a file, then the federal government will not hold that employer responsible for hiring illegals. Despite that it is widely known that illegal documents are sold inexpensively on the black market. I know illegal aliens who use such documents, I've seen these documents with my eyes. since you gave me your personal opinion, I'll give you mine. You're an idiot.
Psalms 137:1 By the rivers of Babylon, there we sat down, yea, we wept, when we remembered Zion.
You may call me whatever you wish. I may be an idiot in your opinion, but at least I know enough about the illegal invasion to know it is destroying our country and people like you put down everyone and abyone trying to fix the problem. As I said before, you arent fit to be protected by Sheriff Joe and his Posse. Of course you Obama supporters support the illegal invasion.
Since you live in Arizona then you should know that it is a very strong second amendment state complete with open carry laws. I doubt very seriously if Sheriff Joe has to arm his posses as its members likely own their own.
"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Director, CIA 1973–1976 Nothing in the State, everything outside the State, everything against the State - Jan Lester, Escape From Leviathan "When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves in the course of time a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that justifies it." - Frederic Bastiat Good order results spontaneously when things are let alone. - Zhuangzi
sheriff joe used county funds and county resources without county approval to set up a face recognition system for the Honduran government. that is only one of the half dozen things he's currently being investigated for by county, state and federal governments that are now starting to work together. there's been several lawsuits that each cost tens of millions of dollars over sheriff joe's antics. the prisons he builds are extraordinarily expensive. and there are other ways he's been extravagant with spending that is actually not even approved.
Psalms 137:1 By the rivers of Babylon, there we sat down, yea, we wept, when we remembered Zion.
Sheriff Joe's office was using its personnel resources and its money too to install face recognition software in the nation of Honduras to assist the military leaders who overthrew the elected leader through a coup. This activity was not approved by the county board of supervisors. Therefore, it is a serious misallocation of funds. this is not the first time sheriff joe has been caught spending money in a manner that he is not authorized to spend money. Once the county board of supervisors told him specifically not to buy an expensive bus to transpor prisoners that he wanted. He bought it anyway. This is how Sheriff Joe is, he operates outside the law. That is why county, state and federal governments all 3 are currently investigating him on different issues. We are a county that suffers school shut-downs because of a lack of funds. and this sheriff spends money like it was nothing in foreign countries doing things we disapprove of. all of the people who support sheriff joe are dupes.
Psalms 137:1 By the rivers of Babylon, there we sat down, yea, we wept, when we remembered Zion.
this is not the first time sheriff joe has been caught spending money in a manner that he is not authorized to spend money. Once the county board of supervisors told him specifically not to buy an expensive bus to transpor prisoners that he wanted. He bought it anyway. This is how Sheriff Joe is, he operates outside the law. That is why county, state and federal governments all 3 are currently investigating him on different issues. We are a county that suffers school shut-downs because of a lack of funds. and this sheriff spends money like it was nothing in foreign countries doing things we disapprove of. all of the people who support sheriff joe are dupes. None of which has anything to do with my comments concerning the legality (or not) of "Sheriff Joe" having an armed posse. I do not support "Sheriff Joe." I do not support any government enforcer or any drug warrior. I do, however, support the time honored Western tradition of sheriffs having the power to form posse's of local citizens when they feel there is a need.
"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Director, CIA 1973–1976 Nothing in the State, everything outside the State, everything against the State - Jan Lester, Escape From Leviathan "When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves in the course of time a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that justifies it." - Frederic Bastiat Good order results spontaneously when things are let alone. - Zhuangzi
yes, you're correct. Sheriff Joe has also gotten into petty spats with multiple local politicians. The county sheriff's office under sheriff Joe carries on a feud with the county board of supervisors who must approve the spending. Sheriff Joe witholds information on a large scale from the board of supervisors. Sheriff Joe has instructed that the sheriff's department's computer system be separated from the rest of the county government. This resulted in chaos and has required millions of dollars to be spent by the county to correct it. Sheriff Joe has instigated lawsuits with other officials. and he requires that the taxpayers fund the lawyers he hires to engage in lawsuits. At one point he had 3 Washington DC law firms hired and was paying huge hourly fees to them rather than use sheriff's office lawyers to fight the lawsuits. Just in 2 years his expenses on his lawsuits have been about $6 million. We have shut down schools because of a lack of money. Sheriff joe didn't even pay time and a half to his detention officers/deputies as required by law. He's a law enforcement official who breaks the law. like I say, sheriff joe is really a psy-op. he causes great division. and he accomplishes nothing.
Psalms 137:1 By the rivers of Babylon, there we sat down, yea, we wept, when we remembered Zion.
Sure he does. He gives the statists someone to rally behind. Of course with the state of the two party fraud today, he has a lot of competition.
"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Director, CIA 1973–1976 Nothing in the State, everything outside the State, everything against the State - Jan Lester, Escape From Leviathan "When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves in the course of time a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that justifies it." - Frederic Bastiat Good order results spontaneously when things are let alone. - Zhuangzi
#2. To: Big Meanie (#0)
posse 58
#3. To: Big Meanie (#0)
PHOENIX – Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio says he is ramping up his fight against illegal immigration and is calling on armed volunteers to do the patrols.
Joe.
#4. To: Big Meanie (#0)
Senator Jacob Howard, Co-author of the citizenship clause of the 14th Amendment, 1866.
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#8. To: PaulCJ (#7)
#9. To: Red Jones (#8)
there's been controversy in the past about Sheriff Joe's posses. I thought that he was not allowed to give them guns.
#10. To: Red Jones (#8)
he was not allowed to give them guns
My joy over McCain's defeat, is offset by my disappointment over hObama's victory.
#11. To: Big Meanie (#0)
Arpaio says posse 58 will be devoted solely to illegal immigration. “I want a little specialized unit. I think it's time to do that.”
#12. To: Red Jones (#5)
Sheriff Joe is currently being prosecuted by the federal government and both the state and county governments are as well investigating him or his top people
#13. To: Red Jones (#8)
there's been controversy in the past about Sheriff Joe's posses. I thought that he was not allowed to give them guns. Because these are amateur police officers and there's been some bad incidents with them. Joe is just getting public attention now at a time when the investigations are closing in on him.
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#15. To: Red Jones (#14)
since you gave me your personal opinion, I'll give you mine. You're an idiot.
#16. To: Red Jones (#8)
there's been controversy in the past about Sheriff Joe's posses. I thought that he was not allowed to give them guns. Because these are amateur police officers and there's been some bad incidents with them.
#17. To: LACUMO (#15)
#18. To: F.A. Hayek Fan (#16)
#19. To: Red Jones (#18)
Sheriff Joe's office was using its personnel resources and its money too to install face recognition software in the nation of Honduras to assist the military leaders who overthrew the elected leader through a coup. This activity was not approved by the county board of supervisors. Therefore, it is a serious misallocation of funds.
#20. To: F.A. Hayek Fan (#19)
None of which has anything to do with my comments concerning the legality (or not) of "Sheriff Joe" having an armed posse.
#21. To: Red Jones (#20)
like I say, sheriff joe is really a psy-op. he causes great division. and he accomplishes nothing.
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