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Title: Americans Renew Call for Third Party
Source: gallop
URL Source: http://www.gallup.com/poll/143051/A ... ns-Renew-Call-Third-Party.aspx
Published: Sep 19, 2010
Author: Jeffrey M. Jones
Post Date: 2010-09-19 14:03:13 by abraxas
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Comments: 79

Americans Renew Call for Third Party

Fifty-eight percent of Americans, and 62% of Tea Party supporters, favor third partyb y Jeffrey M. Jones

PRINCETON, NJ -- Americans' desires for a third political party are as high as they have been in seven years. Fifty-eight percent of Americans believe a third major political party is needed because the Republican and Democratic Parties do a poor job of representing the American people. That is a significant increase from 2008 and ties the high Gallup has recorded for this measure since 2003.

The finding, based on an Aug. 27-30 USA Today/Gallup poll, comes at a time when Americans are widely dissatisfied with the way things are going in the United States and give relatively weak approval ratings to the president and Congress.

Though the rise in support for a third party could be linked to the Tea Party movement, Tea Party supporters are just about average in terms of wanting to see a third party created. Sixty-two percent of those who describe themselves as Tea Party supporters would like a third major party formed, but so do 59% of those who are neutral toward the Tea Party movement. Tea Party opponents are somewhat less likely to see the need for a third party.

The desire for a third party is fairly similar across ideological groups, with 61% of liberals, 60% of moderates, and 54% of conservatives believing a third major party is needed. That is a narrower gap than Gallup has found in the past; conservatives have typically been far less likely than liberals and moderates to support the creation of a third party.

Independents, as might be expected given their lack of primary allegiance to either of the two major parties, express a greater degree of support (74%) for a third party than do Republicans (47%) and Democrats (45%). Over time, independents have consistently been the political group most eager to see a third party formed. But each party group is more likely now than in 2008 to support the formation of a third major party. At that time, about two months before the presidential election, 38% of Democrats, 40% of Republicans, and 63% of independents thought a third party was necessary.

Bottom Line

Election results in recent years and polls from this year indicate Americans are frustrated with the job the two major parties have been doing. In 2006, voters elected a Democratic majority in Congress to replace the Republican majority, and in 2008 they elected a Democratic president to replace an outgoing Republican president. Polling on voters' 2010 voting intentions suggests that they may be poised to replace the Democratic majority in Congress with a Republican majority. But that seems to be as much because voters are rejecting Democrats as embracing Republicans.

Given the lack of alternatives, it perhaps is no surprise that Americans' desires for a third party are as high as they've been in at least the last seven years. And while the formation of an official third party is not imminent, that desire may be manifested in voters' strong anti-incumbent sentiments this year.

Survey Methods Results for this USA Today/Gallup poll are based on telephone interviews conducted Aug. 27-30, 2010, with a random sample of 1,021 adults, aged 18 and older, living in the continental U.S., selected using random-digit-dial sampling.

For results based on the total sample of national adults, one can say with 95% confidence that the maximum margin of sampling error is ±4 percentage points.

Interviews are conducted with respondents on landline telephones (for respondents with a landline telephone) and cellular phones (for respondents who are cell phone-only). Each sample includes a minimum quota of 150 cell phone-only respondents and 850 landline respondents, with additional minimum quotas among landline respondents for gender within region. Landline respondents are chosen at random within each household on the basis of which member had the most recent birthday.

Samples are weighted by gender, age, race, education, region, and phone lines. Demographic weighting targets are based on the March 2009 Current Population Survey figures for the aged 18 and older non-institutionalized population living in continental U.S. telephone households. All reported margins of sampling error include the computed design effects for weighting and sample design.

In addition to sampling error, question wording and practical difficulties in conducting surveys can introduce error or bias into the findings of public opinion polls.

View methodology, full question results, and trend data.

For more details on Gallup's polling methodology, visit http://www.gallup.com/.

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#8. To: abraxas, farmfriend (#0)

A "third" party is a bad idea. Here's why.
If a third party is right-of-center it will be compete with the Republican party for a finite vote pool.
That means any leftest candidate can win by plurality.

You get election after election of leftest wins while the right-of-center voters sort out their two parties.
I know, I know. We've got that already with Rino Republicans. It would be worse.
By the time they get their act together, it's too late.

Multiple viable parties on all sides of the political spectrum might be better, but still one would win by plurality.

The best solution is to take over the Republican party and turn it into what a third party would have been.

Armadillo  posted on  2010-09-20   0:41:09 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Armadillo (#8)

You are missing the point in the problem with the two party fraud, Dillo.

This right of center, left of center, dog and pony show ignores that both parties, no matter the degree from center, DON'T REPRESENT THE PEOPLE. Both parties are CORPORATE WHORES.

Yes, multiple parties would be great. But, first people need to accept the painful truth that neither the Dems nor the Pubbies represent the interests of the people or the Constitution. Until this happens, you will see more of the same, not less.

abraxas  posted on  2010-09-20   12:21:36 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: abraxas (#15)

This right of center, left of center, dog and pony show ignores that both parties, no matter the degree from center, DON'T REPRESENT THE PEOPLE. Both parties are CORPORATE WHORES.
Yes, multiple parties would be great. But, first people need to accept the painful truth that neither the Dems nor the Pubbies represent the interests of the people or the Constitution. Until this happens, you will see more of the same, not less.

I do not disagree with any of that.
My issue is that a third party attempting to usurp the Repubs will spit the vote giving the Dems a win by plurality.
The Repubs are not perfect, but they are still better than a Dem.
They are the lesser or two evils.

Instead of challenging the Repubs with a third party and ensuring leftest domination, take over the Repubs from within.
Make the party what we want.

If you go the 3rd party route, you might as well vote for the Democrat, because that's what we will get regardless.
Who then shall I blame?

Armadillo  posted on  2010-09-20   20:11:08 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Armadillo (#23)

Instead of challenging the Repubs with a third party and ensuring leftest domination, take over the Repubs from within. Make the party what we want.

Well, Dillo, GW Bush made it painfully clear to me that the Pubbie party CANNOT be saved. Just look at it will ya: Linsay Graham, McConnell, McCain, Ensign. Corporate Toadies every one. It's too corrupt.....just like the Dems.

You still aren't getting it. These two parties are two sides of the SAME COIN. This notion that one is better than the other is silly and only by an insignificant degree. We need a party FOR the people, neither R nor D will do FOR the people.

We will never make the Pubbies what we want. They are corporate whores, not whores for the people. Ditto for Dems. I don't care if you blame me, but I will not continue on with the farce that there is a rats hair worth of

abraxas  posted on  2010-09-20   20:30:58 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: abraxas, Armadillo, Original_Intent, Artisan, noone222, Jethro Tull, christine, *Constitution Party* (#26)

We will never make the Pubbies what we want.

I agree. Having seen the games that are played with the party power structure it is impossible. You get a ruling elite in the party structure that is CFR and/or a lackey there of and they will bend the rules, break the rules etc in order to keep their power structure and thus their agenda. You all saw what happened to the Ron Paul people in Nevada. That is a prime example of everywhere. It is disgusting, dishonest and a royal pain in the ass to deal with.

farmfriend  posted on  2010-09-20   20:58:23 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: farmfriend, all (#29)

FF, I spent years & personal money trying to get the Reform Party off the ground. Below is how it ended. I see that you ping the Constitution Party on your "To" field. I checked it here in PA. Out of 67 counties, there are two active chapters. This after at least ten years of existence that I'm aware of. I'm not suggesting these aren't salt of the earth people, with the very best of intentions, I'm simply saying that for those that haven't spent time, energy & money trying to develop a 3rd Party into something viable, they've missed a first hand education into a world of the improbable.

Perot spokesman leaving job in another sign of demise of Reform Party.(The Dallas Morning News)

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DALLAS _ Ross Perot spokesman Russell Verney is leaving his job as Perot's political right arm in what some experts say is another sign of demise for the Reform Party created by the Dallas billionaire.

Judicial Watch, a Washington-based public interest legal and governmental watchdog group, is expected to announce at a news conference Thursday that it is hiring Verney to open a Southwest office in Dallas. The group had no comment Wednesday.

"I am moving on," said Verney, who was campaign chairman for Perot's 1996 presidential run and founding chairman of the Reform Party. He first signed on with Perot in the fall of 1992, becoming director of United We Stand America, the forerunner to the Reform Party.

Verney's move, some experts said, signals an end to Perot's active involvement in the party and could help nail the coffin on the party as a national force.

Verney acknowledged that the Reform Party has declined, along with Perot's need for a full-time adviser.

"There aren't many remnants of it left," he said.

Pat Buchanan, the party's 2000 presidential nominee, won less than 1 percent of the vote, compared with Perot's 19 percent in 1992, when he launched the movement that became the Reform Party. The party has ballot status in only 10 states and no federal funding for the 2004 presidential campaign.

George Edwards, director of the Center for Presidential Studies at Texas A&M University, said the party's performance in the last election "indicates it's not a good investment, and Ross Perot is certainly someone who likes a good investment."

For several years, Verney served as the conduit between Perot and the Reform Party. However, a party split reduced the Perot-Verney influence, and Verney fought what he called the Buchanan "takeover."

National Reform Chairman Gerry Moan of Arizona said Verney has not supported the party since its national nominating convention last summer.

As for Perot, days before the November election, he made a surprise endorsement of GOP nominee George W. Bush. He was out of town and unavailable for comment Wednesday.

Buchanan, meanwhile, has kept an arm's length from the party since his candidacy.

"That Buchanan is standing back, Perot is withdrawing further from it, and Verney is leaving to take this other job means the Reform Party is a collection of state Reform parties _ some of which may have local influence, some of which will simply die away," said political scientist Cal Jillson.

"As a national force, I think they are spent," the Southern Methodist University professor said.

But he credits Perot with changing the course of American politics in the early 1990s.

"He scared both political parties sober," he said of Perot, contributing to the strong economic performance of the 1990s.

But, he said, Perot's heart was not in the 1996 presidential race and he receded from party involvement, allowing others such as Minnesota Gov. Jesse Ventura and Buchanan to try to remake the party in their image. "Only Perot could protect it from interlopers. When he decided not to, the game was over."

Moan, however, said the party has "a lot of activity going on," including support of local candidates and working for campaign finance reform and a boycott of Chinese goods.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2010-09-21   10:02:28 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: Jethro Tull, Armadillo, abraxas, Artisan (#62)

However, a party split reduced the Perot-Verney influence, and Verney fought what he called the Buchanan "takeover."

The people who caused that split are now doing it in the American Independent Party. Divide and conquer. The American Independent Party is the third largest party in the US. Up until 08 we were affiliated with the Constitution party. No more. Our official affiliation is now with the new party Alan Keyes started.

farmfriend  posted on  2010-09-21   10:17:40 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#65. To: farmfriend (#64)

Our official affiliation is now with the new party Alan Keyes started.

Is Keyes currently affiliated with the CP?

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