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Title: [My title] Another 9/11 "coincidence"? 1971 Dustin Hoffman movie: Who Is Harry Kellerman ...
Source: Wikipedia and YouTube
URL Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/
Published: Sep 7, 2010
Author: Herb Gardner (writer/producer) and Ulu G
Post Date: 2010-09-21 11:01:42 by GreyLmist
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Keywords: 9/11, coincidences, NYC and WTC, plane strike
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Who Is Harry Kellerman and Why Is He Saying Those Terrible Things About Me?

Directed by Ulu Grosbard

Produced by Ulu Grosbard, Herb Gardner

Written by Ulu Grosbard, Herb Gardner

Starring Dustin Hoffman
Dom DeLuise
Barbara Harris
Jack Warden
David Burns
Gabriel Dell

Music by Shel Silverstein
Cinematography Victor J. Kemper
Editing by Barry Malkin
Distributed by National General Pictures for Cinema Center Films
Release date(s) June 15, 1971 [My note: WTC 1 North Tower completed Dec. 1970. WTC 2 South Tower completed July 1971]
Running time 108 minutes
Country United States
Language English

Who Is Harry Kellerman and Why Is He Saying Those Terrible Things About Me? is an American comedy drama film released in 1971 starring Dustin Hoffman. It portrays a single day in the life of Georgie Soloway, played by Hoffman. The entire film is about events that take place in a single day. Its narrative is stream of consciousness filled with both comedy and drama.

Georgie Soloway is a rock music composer who experiences personal conflicts when trying to track down a man named Harry Kellerman, who had been spreading outrageous lies about him. Soloway is a man who has everything. One night, struggling with insomnia, he begins to examine his life more closely.

Enter Harry Kellerman, the mysterious man spreading rumors about Soloway. Soloway begins to obsess over finding Harry Kellerman and soon forgets about his own life's misery.

The film was widely panned as a vapid, pretentious mess by many when it was released. However, many critics singled out Barbara Harris for praise; she received an Academy Award nomination for Best Supporting Actress. The film still holds the current (as of 2007[update]) record in Academy Awards history as having the longest title of any Oscar-nominated film.

Filming of the movie was done on location in New York City in 1970. Some of the locations include the Lunt-Fontanne Theatre, the General Motors Building, and Fillmore East. At the Fillmore East, Soloway performs onstage with Shel Silverstein and Dr. Hook & The Medicine Show. This scene was filmed on September 18, 1970 prior to an actual Grateful Dead concert. The actual concert attendees were used as extras for the scene.

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Wikipedia sidenote on Dustin Hoffman: In 1970, Hoffman and [my note: his first wife, Anne] Byrne were living in Greenwich Village in a building next door to the townhouse destroyed by members of The Weatherman when they detonated a bomb in the building's basement, killing three people. In the 2002 documentary The Weather Underground, Hoffman can be seen standing in the street during the aftermath of the explosion.[20]

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The video for "Who Is Harry Kellerman and Why Is He Saying Those Terrible Things About Me?" is available in 11 parts at YouTube. I have only seen small segments at the beginning and the end but the building in the opening scene has a facade very similar to the WTC towers where the Hoffman character imagines himself as a suicidal jumper. At the end, he apparently commits suicide by targeting a building in NYC with a plane that he is piloting -- not one of the WTC towers but a Christian looking church. Embedding is disabled so I can only post links to those examples of this weirdly "coincidental" to 9/11 film:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hsoSOD48TSA - Pt. 1/11

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6S1e3--Rtm4 - Pt. 11/11 @ 6:20 Subscribe to *9-11*

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#1. To: GreyLmist (#0) (Edited)

Harry Kellerman was made before the WTC was built.

Perhaps the prototype for using a NYC building as a target goes back to the 1964 movie FAIL-SAFE, where President Henry Fonda, to avoid a world war, orders a US bomber to drop a nuke on NYC using the Empire State Bldg as the target.

There was a computer game available before 2001, IIRC "Flight Instructor". The pre-9-11-2001 versions allowed the player to crash his plane into the World Trade Center. Someone even suggested that the WTC hijackers may have practiced with that game.

Shoonra  posted on  2010-09-21   12:09:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Shoonra, wudidiz (#1)

Harry Kellerman was made before the WTC was built.

According to the Wikipedia link I posted above on the World Trade Center, the North Tower (WTC 1) was completed in December of the year filming started (1970) and the South Tower (WTC 2) was completed the following July, shortly after the film was released on June 15, 1971. If you have other Towers-completion data, post it for comparison. The 1975 Robert Redford movie, "Three Days of the Condor" shows completed WTC Towers in an abstract artsy sort of depiction so perhaps you're thinking of the other buildings under construction there after 7/71.

It's the resemblance to the facade of the Towers and the jumping from it that was the point. I know it's not footage of an actual WTC Tower being shown, although they were both being built there in that time period and nearly complete by my research sources listed. Here is a repost of a video from wudidiz at #2 in the 4um thread, Get Your No Planes Here, to display the time-counter. See the 02:14-02:26 range for a building with a similar facade to the WTC Towers, as a comparison also to the opening "jumper" scene of the Dustin Hoffman "Harry Kellerman" movie, Pt. 1/11:

TV Fakery - No Planes Hit WTC - The best video clips are here

Perhaps the prototype for using a NYC building as a target goes back to the 1964 movie FAIL-SAFE, where President Henry Fonda, to avoid a world war, orders a US bomber to drop a nuke on NYC using the Empire State Bldg as the target.

Well, the WTC zone is called Ground Zero, like a nuclear bombing reference, but the FAIL-SAFE Fonda movie isn't exactly a plane-strike M.O. suggestive of 9/11, as is the Pt. 11/11 "suicidal pilot" ending of the Dustin Hoffman movie at 6:20.

There was a computer game available before 2001, IIRC "Flight Instructor". The pre-9-11-2001 versions allowed the player to crash his plane into the World Trade Center. Someone even suggested that the WTC hijackers may have practiced with that game.

I've heard that Microsoft Flight Simulator prior to 9/11 said "game over" if a plane crashed into any buildings other than the WTC and some financial building (s), in which case they would just fly through those and keep going. If someone is suggesting the alleged hijackers may have practiced with that game, sounds to me like they might then have gotten the silly impression that they could live through it, so trying to pin a motive of suicidal "martyrdom" on them wouldn't fly very well, so to speak.

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

GreyLmist  posted on  2010-09-21   14:30:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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