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Title: Inside The LC: The Strange but Mostly True Story of Laurel Canyon and the Birth of the Hippie Generation
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URL Source: http://www.davesweb.cnchost.com/index.html
Published: Sep 21, 2010
Author: Dave McGowan
Post Date: 2010-09-21 15:01:34 by Original_Intent
Keywords: MK Ultra, Rock, Murder, Control
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Comments: 68
I ran into this series a couple of days ago and it is a fascinating and well written series. It is both interesting from a modern history perspective, and from the point of view of how our society is manipulated and controlled. Just to set it up. For those not already in the know Laurel Canyon, in LA, has long been a home to movie stars, writers, and other famous figures. In the 60's it became THE address for many Rock Stars, as well as Charles Manson. It has been the scene of death, debauchery, drug use, and creativity. For a number of years now I have been hearing, and reading, about how our pop music and surrounding culture has been a tool of control and transformation of the society. I'll leave it to you the curious to decide for yourself. The series is an interesting read just for the historical events and rock and roll history and trivia as well as the inner workings. It works just as an interesting read, but carries deeper implications as to things we have always assumed to be true that are not. It is also quite spooky, in more than one way, when you start sifting through it and evaluating for yourself what the information implies. One word of caution, the series is addictive and I found myself reading through most of it in two evenings. Part 1: www.davesweb.cnchost.com/nwsltr93.html Part 3: www.davesweb.cnchost.com/nwsltr95.html Part 4: www.davesweb.cnchost.com/nwsltr96.html Part 5: www.davesweb.cnchost.com/nwsltr97.html Part 6: www.davesweb.cnchost.com/nwsltr98.html Part 7: www.davesweb.cnchost.com/nwsltr99.html Part 8: www.davesweb.cnchost.com/nwsltr100.html Part 9: www.davesweb.cnchost.com/nwsltr101.html Part 10: www.davesweb.cnchost.com/nwsltr102.html Part 11: www.davesweb.cnchost.com/nwsltr103.html Part 12: www.davesweb.cnchost.com/nwsltr104.html Part 13: www.davesweb.cnchost.com/nwsltr105.html Part 14: www.davesweb.cnchost.com/nwsltr106.html Part 15: www.davesweb.cnchost.com/nwsltr107.html
and the Birth of the Hippie Generation
Excerpt From Part 1:
Inside The LC: The Strange but Mostly True Story of Laurel Canyon and the Birth of the Hippie Generation
Part I
May 8, 2008
"There’s something happening here
What it is ain’t exactly clear"
"Join me now, if you have the time, as we take a stroll down memory lane to a time nearly four-and-a-half decades ago – a time when America last had uniformed ground troops fighting a sustained and bloody battle to impose, uhmm, ‘democracy’ on a sovereign nation.
It is the first week of August, 1964, and U.S. warships under the command of U.S. Navy Admiral George Stephen Morrison have allegedly come under attack while patrolling Vietnam’s Tonkin Gulf. This event, subsequently dubbed the ‘Tonkin Gulf Incident,’ will result in the immediate passing by the U.S. Congress of the obviously pre-drafted Tonkin Gulf Resolution, which will, in turn, quickly lead to America’s deep immersion into the bloody Vietnam quagmire. Before it is over, well over fifty thousand American bodies – along with literally millions of Southeast Asian bodies – will litter the battlefields of Vietnam, Laos and Cambodia. ..." (Continued at link.)
Part 2: www.davesweb.cnchost.com/nwsltr94.html
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"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
I read through the first 7 installments of this expose, and I am completely blown away by the amount of information and the number of "coincidences" presented here. I mean what are the odds that these musicians, almost all with relatives with various military and government intelligence backgrounds would all congregate in this one area? And then you have the decidedly occult goings-on...it all paints a very disturbing picture of the music industry, and I liked almost all of those bands. I knew that Jim Morrison's father was an Admiral, but I had no clue about his involvement in the Gulf of Tonkin incident. I suppose most people would chalk this up to coincidence, but as for me, being the nutty CT that I am, I see a more sinister hand controlling all of this. Thanks so much for posting this. I also wanted to add that I like the way he presented the information, not making any conclusions but rather leaving it to the reader to make his own conclusions. I definitely enjoyed his evident sense of humor in presenting all of this. One example : (John Phillips also owned and sometimes carried handguns). And according to Crosby himself, he has, on at least one occasion, discharged a firearm in anger at another human being. All of which made him, of course, an obvious choice for the Flower Children to rally around.
During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act.
Something I honestly have never, in the three years I've had a computer, done and didn't know it could be done. Guess that's what the "save page" thing when you right click is for. Duh.
Yes, I like his warped sense of humor - it parallels my own. Oh, and you're welcome. The amount of information and the number of "amazing coincidences" is rather staggering. At this point I've now read through them all and am starting over as there is just too much information to assimilate and make sense of all the interconnections in just one pass through.
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
Something I honestly have never, in the three years I've had a computer, done and didn't know it could be done. Guess that's what the "save page" thing when you right click is for. Duh. Oh, well don't kick yourself. I do have to admit though that I'm surprised since in most respects you are more computer savvy than myself.
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
yes, you're right. You can do the right-click on the mouse and pull up that short menu it produces and select 'save page as'. then you will have to select your directory or folder to save in and give it a name. It will save as an html document so that means it comes up in your browser when you 'work offline'. Or, you can select from the browser menu across the top of the screen 'file' and then 'save page as'. this article is wild and I don't think the info in it is something in danger of being censored from the internet. the guy is entertaining in his style. He lists so many details and connections, sometimes he's really reaching. but it is interesting. It tends to point to the idea that the music scene was nurtured with the help of intelligence operations which itself associated with satanic cult type stuff. Charles Manson's people lived across the street from a secret CIA owned movie studio. and on top of that Neil Young and Brian Wilson both liked Charles Manson and wanted to help him break into the music business. all those people living in a little suburban community. and all those deaths. amazing. I'm on part 14 - about to give up.
Psalms 137:1 By the rivers of Babylon, there we sat down, yea, we wept, when we remembered Zion.
I think that probably every death in the whole world can be connected to Laurel Canyon somehow. This guy David McGowan can find the connection at least if only he has time to do the research.
Psalms 137:1 By the rivers of Babylon, there we sat down, yea, we wept, when we remembered Zion.
McGowen certainly has a treasure trove of various information, and writes prolifically. He's the source of some of the articles I've posted concerning seldom mentioned news articles such as the "Finders" and the Presidio cases. Oddly he took down the series, named The Pedophocracy. He's written at least a few interesting books as well apparently.
I do have to admit though that I'm surprised since in most respects you are more computer savvy than myself. Up until today I've been bookmarking pages. Saved lots of videos but never script. Simply didn't know it could be done. lol Wonder how many other things there are I don't know... I suspect a lot of these stars are illegitimately fathered by rich people. That is, the Elite. That's the pattern I'm seeing.
"Of course, just because Clark’s inner circle seems to have been drawn from various nefarious occult groups doesn’t mean that we should leap to any conclusions about Gene himself, even if his wife was an avid occultist, and even if he was the product of a multi-generational cult town, and even if his sibling was sacrificed stillborn on a major occult holiday, and even if his first home was right across the street from a body drop funeral home." He uses sarcasm effectively.
you're projecting a persona of a person capable of writing a book yourself. maybe so. I read all 17 parts of Dave McGowan's series on Laurel Canyon. It was interesting, but I don't advise reading it unless you can afford to waste some time. it is amazing how many of the people in his story died young. Normally from drug and/or alcohol excessive use. was it just plain evil that was orchestrating some events (like charlie manson) or was it deep undercover intelligence operations causing these things. I'm reminded of how Marie Antoinette once snapped 'we are the makers of morals'. Someone had told her that she should not kiss in public because it was against the morals of the public. and she said something like 'we are the makers of morals'. something like that. concerning the rock music and new cultural standards brought forth in the 1960's, who was it that changed the music and brought forth the new standards and styles? Was it spontaneous? doesn't seem likely to me. I mean some people may be supportive of these changes of the 1960's. Maybe it was good for Mackenzie phillips to have sex with her father for 10 years and then tell everyone about it? Maybe all those orgies and drug use leading to so many deaths were good? The Hells Angels killing someone right in front of the stage in full view as the photos showed and yet the bands just played on. There were ritual killings in that story. Who can say this was good? only a fool. the question remains. Was it evil spiritual forces who caused so much to come together and coagulate at Laurel Canyon? Or was it CIA/MKUltra,etc.? or both.
Psalms 137:1 By the rivers of Babylon, there we sat down, yea, we wept, when we remembered Zion.
Both.
"Rock-n-Roll: Sorcerers of the New Age Revolution" Shows how and when the New Age philosophy has helped set the Rock Music Industry on the path it has taken over the past 40 years! Almost 4 hours long www.cuttingedge.org/newsletters/013008.html NEW DVD - WITCHCRAFT - The Age of Innocence Is Over!! Did you know that Daniel 8:23-25 (KJV)foretells that the religion of Antichrist will be Witchcraft, specifically, Black Magick witchcraft? Therefore, Christians need to really and truly be aware of the "devices" of Witchcraft and how it is impacting the entire world today "Witchcraft: The Age of Innocence" will examine the origins of witchcraft and its evolution to the modern-day Wiccan Movement. It will explore the beliefs not only of those who practice a postmodern, sanitized “white magick,” but also those who delve into the “black magick” of the avowed disciple of Lucifer. We will also see how the movement has progressed from primarily evil witchcraft to a sanitized witchcraft acceptable to the masses, even though it is still as evil and dangerous as it was in days of old Does a witch conjure evil spells with the aid of such apothecaries as “eye of newt” and “dried wing of bat” mixed in a boiling cauldron under a full moon? Does a witch invoke Satan or other evil spirits to do their bidding for them? Are witches on a mission to replace Christianity with “Devil Worship?” Does the modern witch truly worship Lucifer, or is he or she simply a “tree-hugging” disciple of “Mother Nature?” Are those who practice Wicca and “white magick” true witches, or are the “true witches” the practitioners of “black magick” and Satan worshipers cast in the mold of Aleister Crowley or even Anton LaVey? Are Christians to run from witches in fear, or should they make every effort to reach them for Jesus Christ? Indeed, we show how a Christian can use this information to reach a practicing witch with the saving Gospel! Running time is 2 hours www.cuttingedge.org/newsletters/013008.html
Man, I've been awake for 30 years or more. I "know" who I am, what I stand for, and who the enemy is. I am a free man opposed to tyranny. The enemy is ignorance, apathy, and the FEDERAL RESERVE BANKING SYSTEM (all Central (Fiat) Banks). To my great pleasure I have succeeded in completing 60 years on this planet and am in pretty damn good shape. I am deeply disappointed in the direction of the country and the subtle manipulations operated against the white race and myself for the past 100 years in this country. I have never joined a group such as Aryan Nations nor have I ever even considered it. However, there's an agenda to take whitey down in this country. This whitey ain't takin it. Being white hasn't ever given me an advantage. That's OK, I never needed an advantage based upon race. I have been hindered throughout most of my life because of reverse racism ... and didn't even give that much thought. My dad and grandfather were career Fire Fighters. My brother and myself expected to follow in their footsteps as did thousands of other white Irish Catholics in Indiana ... but guess what ? The Indianapolis Fire Department went into affirmative action mode at the time when I might have hired on and were only hiring minorities. That was probably for the best and I went in a completely unassociated direction, moved to California and raised my family there. I've never been against anyone without cause or because of their race. (I must admit Arabs are hard to like for me. That said, I still believe they are the legitimate residents of Palestine/Jerusalem.) Today, the entire system of finance and government in the U.S. stands ready to abuse and destroy every caucasion not in the "inner circle" of elitists cockroaches. This is a silent war of manipulation that even causes people to turn on their own by "following orders" to chase a retirement ... that ain't happening, that they will probably NEVER receive, so the FED GOV can feed the invading army of illegals and other disenfranchised non-producers. I guess I'm spinning and ranting when I could simply say my backbone is strong, my mind is satisfied, my committment is unyielding, and when the moment of decision arrives ... it won't take a second to make it. White Americans that can see should have noticed by now that all media now portrays minorities as the Official in Charge ... the Judge, the Police Chief, The President etc., and whitey as the bad guy. Well, I'm fuckin full beyond capacity of bogus information to listen to anymore of this completely false manipulation. Archie Bunker was the beginning of this bullshit. Meathead, a loafing professional student was shown to be smarter than the hard working bigotted schlepper, Archie Bunker, while Archie paid the bills and Meathead sucked off the tit. Year after year Archie was being attacked by the socialist professional student and made to look the fool. There is a very real war going on even if most people are still unaware of it.
"Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it." Jesus Christ speaking to the Rabbis of his day.
I think you're right. and if you read the stories about the pedophile gangs that police have found, I mean the pedophile gangs the CIA uses to 'mind-control' little children, then you know that these groups that do the mind-control use tools of satan worship in the process. They involve little children in satan worship activities, in ritual sacrifice of animals as part of the mind-control indoctrination process. It is important to understand that police investigators from 2 police departments, San Francisco and Tallahassee, FL, identified that the pedophile gangs involved in mind-control will sexually abuse the children, turn them into sex objects for adults, and use satanic rituals, and on top of that give the children drugs such as cocaine. all this is done and local police cannot prosecute because it is CIA associated. When these kids get to be adults, most of them are not useful to their programmers. I don't know what portion are killed to keep them quiet. but the mind-control process does not work with all of them or does not work well for some of them. But some of them become mind-controlled. They can be instructed on exactly how to live their lives, exactly what their goals are and then like wind-up toys they go forth and do their jobs. Their jobs might be to assassinate or to build a career in a desired location. Charles Manson's group were living across the street from a CIA facility where movies were secretly made.
Psalms 137:1 By the rivers of Babylon, there we sat down, yea, we wept, when we remembered Zion.
I'm very sympathetic to your post. I'm white like you and I feel there's been reverse racism. Whenever you see an ad today on tv with a husband and wife. The husband is always doing housework and acting foolish. the wife is the responsible one making good decisions and making money. we should ask ourselves if tv is worth watching at all. a few big corps controlling everything in the media. and CIA presiding. a dark agenda by an evil elite. To us, in our experience, we're being persecuted and ruined as you said. but in many foreign countries the populations must feel similar. In Mexico the mexican elite implemented policies very harmful to the mexicans essentially pushing many north. In Africa there are countries where the elite persecute their population. This is unfortunately all too common in the human experience worldwide and through history. these are some of the reasons why I've decided that the real hope for us in the future is that jesus will return, kingdom of heaven will be built here on earth, judgment will occur. To me, this is the answer and man-made solutions facilitated by democracy I don't think are 'in the cards'. What has happened in our country though is fantastic. evil has come here to destroy us. it has been demonstrated that we need god. in our own minds at least we must understand the real battle lines.
Psalms 137:1 By the rivers of Babylon, there we sat down, yea, we wept, when we remembered Zion.
The kingdom (wherever it takes location - and the earth is fine with me) should house only those souls willing to follow God's Laws (in actual practice) of their own free will - and should exclude those that rationalized their behavior to coincide with "saved by grace" and stayed in the system of Babylon. I feel blessed to have had the opportunity to live on the earth in spite of the difficulties man puts into play.
"Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it." Jesus Christ speaking to the Rabbis of his day.
I think it is pretty obvious that there's been an effort in mega-churches, among the tv preachers and in some bible colleges to undermine christian thinking. It has been the enemy that has staged this attack and it has been powerful. Much is made of this verse about 'saved by grace'. Ephesians 2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: [it is] the gift of God: But when you read the bible you need to be open-minded and interpret the words precisely. This verse is true. When it says 'saved' it means being welcomed into the kingdom of heaven for everlasting life at the end of this era we're living in now. this is done by a gift from god, that is true. and we don't save ourselves, we are dependent on that gift. at the same time there are many verses that say we will be judged by our works, by what we do. When judgment comes (and it is coming) the decision made on us will be determined by our works when we are alive. We're given challenges now. We're given temptations. We're given incentives to go along with evil. and it is a test of us. that is why things are as they are today. Many people love that verse from Ephesians about 'saved by grace'. and they have no concern at all for the evil works they do. I see them advocate war, cheer for war, advocate hatred of muslims, mass killing of them even. I see them tolerate the pedophiles who do the mind-control process. The bible says repeatedly that after judgment there will be much 'gnashing of teeth' because many will be very angry that they are judged negatively. We'll be judged by our works. as individuals we have that responsibility. our 'good works' may be small and inconsequential. but we are given choices and opportunities to do good works. On judgment day we will be judged on whether we do these good works when we have the opportunity to do them. Matthew 25 gives some very good examples on this. The one speaking in Matthew 25 is jesus after he was asked (in matthew 24) what the 'end-times' will be like. He describes them in Matthew 24 and then he describes judgment in matthew 25. he says that when you're alive he'll send opportunities to you to do good works. That poor person who asked you for help, did you help them? jesus will remember how you treated them. and he will treat you the same on judgment day. He didn't say he was going to save you for going to church and waving your arms back and forth in a big show. He said he'd test you. and he'd remember how you responded. Matthew 24 & 25 are a great quick-lock at the end-times and judgment. But those same themes and ideas are repeated over and over in the new testament and old testament. There are verses that specifically say we'll be judged by our works. But that one verse in Ephesians is raised up and used to deceive people. This great contest between spiritual forces here on earth occupies our attention and gives us great consternation. but on the last day judgment will occur. On that day the evil ones will be defeated soundly. Until then we wait. this is all just basic to the christian story. It is not my opinion or special interpretation.
Psalms 137:1 By the rivers of Babylon, there we sat down, yea, we wept, when we remembered Zion.
I think one of the mistakes people make is thinking of this as a "race" problem when it is a "mind control" problem. The attack is being made to appear to be an attack on whites but it is not because they are "white" per se but because we are the dominant cultural group. The attack is actually being made against the culture of resistance and all races but to remove the core resistance, which is largely white, the attack is made along racial lines. It is a tactic as old as warfare "divide and conquer". That is being done to drive in a wedge a create resentments causing us to engage in conflict with each other rather than against the ruling elite. It is not just divide and conquer but a tactic to keep resistance drawn along racial lines so that we fight with each other and not against the real enemy. That is true and it began a lot further back than most people care to think. You can find threads of as early as the teens of the last century.
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
The attack is being made to appear to be an attack on whites but it is not because they are "white" per se but because we are the dominant cultural group. The attack is actually being made against the culture of resistance and all races but to remove the core resistance, which is largely white, the attack is made along racial lines. It is a tactic as old as warfare "divide and conquer". That's a mouthful. You're getting quite close to the nub of things here. I've become aware over just the past few years how important mind control is in the grand scheme. The McGowan articles have opened up some avenues that I've only had intuitions about in the past.
I would like to direct this to the distinguished members of the panel: You lousy cork-soakers. You have violated my farging rights. Dis somanumbatching country was founded so that the liberties of common patriotic citizens like me could not be taken away by a bunch of fargin iceholes... like yourselves. - Roman Moroni
I suspect Mr. McGowan would be gratified. While it is just becoming real to you we DO live in a culture infused with, and are bombarded with, messages, attitudes, and memes that are nothing more than social control, Perception Management, or Mind Control to use a term that makes people uncomfortable. People do not like to accept, and many will reject and not even look, that they have been manipulated. Those who are strong enough to understand it can overcome it.
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
That is being done to drive in a wedge a create resentments causing us to engage in conflict with each other rather than against the ruling elite. It is not just divide and conquer but a tactic to keep resistance drawn along racial lines so that we fight with each other and not against the real enemy. All the cultural stuff aside ... we white people are being set up to be hated, beaten, raped, robbed and killed by the thugs in media colluding with the thugs that tax us. Affirmative action (reverse discrimination) is employed against whites at work and at school. I know the elites have their reasons for what they're doing but I don't give a shit what their reasons are. I think some day the elites will have their way and civil/racial strife will break out in the streets. When and if it does, I think the white's capacity for killing is completely underestimated and will shock their enemies
"Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it." Jesus Christ speaking to the Rabbis of his day.
I was reading this last night too. www.whale.to/b/pedophocracy.html Could only read so much. Scary stuff.
I'll take a look at it when I have the stomach. Not tonight though. FL mentioned it too. And yes, we live in scary times, but we have to have the courage to look and see what is there, because that is the only way it can be overcome.
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
That all sounds like a prime example of mind control to me.
Could only read so much. Scary stuff. It'd be bad enough if the perps were at least brought to justice. What it makes it truly unsettling is the fact they got away with it, no matter how vile their crimes were.
Likely this sort of thing has been going on for a long, long time and only recently are we aware of it due to availability of information because of the internet.
It may have been going on for millenia as far as we know...
MIND CONTROL IN THE 21st CENTURY by SKYDRIFTER That was posted by wudidiz in a 9/11 topic. I'm posting it here because there is some discussion of mind control. It is long, like a booklet, was written by a poster here, and has had almost 60,000 views. I haven't read it all but skimmed through it and it is an impressive work. Early on it presents the deceptive Milgrim Experiment as a study of submission to perceived authority to the point of inflicting pain or worse on others by electric shocks. This is an excerpt: The environment of the experiment was considered, as well. The surroundings of the experiments seemed to cast an "aura of authority," as well. When the environment of the experiment was conducted in a nondescript office building – versus within the walls of a prestigious and ornate hall on Yale's campus - the percentage of ‘teachers’ who were prepared to administer the maximum voltage dropped to 47.5%. Immediate environment also played a key role, demonstrating the ‘personal’ role of authority "proximity," In one environment, the "experimenter" was at end of a phone line; versus being present in the same room as the ‘teacher. In this scenario, the percentage of ‘teachers’ who were prepared to administer the 450 volt shock dropped to 20.5%. In another scenario, the ‘teacher’ could independently elect the magnitude of the shock level; in that scenario, the percentage of ‘teachers’ who were prepared to continue to the extreme of the scale dropped to 2.5% The statistics indicate that more independence results in more humane behavior. But they also indicate a direct correlation between higher education, prestige, and cruelty. Even the 20% range is shocking and demoralizing to absorb as reflective of society in general. Suppose, though, that those worrisome stats aren't true -- that they are designed to shock us into despair and mislead us into expecting the worst of the "bourgeoise", for instance, until a smoldering classwarfare is the result. Suppose "The experiment requires that you continue," -- to "Please go on," and question Milgrim himself as a trustworthy authority figure on any of that disheartening statistical imagery. Some food for thought, anyway. Here is a link to something on the 60's counter-cultural Aquarian Conspiracy. At that site, there are sub- links for easy access to various chapters. A writing by H.G. Wells called The Open Conspiracy: What Are We to Do with Our Lives? is mentioned as a precursor to the Aquarian Conspiracy. H. G. Wells is a Trotskyite-Communist so that's the ideological bottomline on those topics.
------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
I think it's healthy to consider that. To examine all aspects of a topic from different angles. In fact, it can be unwise not to. Can get freaky though. Thinking too much that is.
Yeah, sometimes. Yet another reason not to think much of Milgrim as an authority figure. :)
------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
To suggest that Milgrim was lying and manipulated the statistics is radical outside the box thinking. Especially if you're right. I know of at least a few people that would definitely be abusive given the opportunity like that though.
This is very interesting www.modernhistoryproject....rticle=AquarianConspiracy And this: thanks for the great links. after I read all 17 parts of McGowan's work at the top of this thread, there were a few facts that stood out. First, the article said that the first real estate development in Laurel canyon began in 1913. If an evil clique did dominate Laurel Canyon, then likely it was that the financial people investing in Laurel Canyon were associated with the evil clique. 1913 is a special year. That is when the federal reserve enabling act was passed thus giving to an evil clique the opportunity and legal authority to create money and get fantastically rich thus enabling their goals. also, some Laurel Canyon land was set aside for NAZIs during WW2. It seems that an evil clique involved both with the federal reserve and the NAZIs dominated Laurel Canyon. how many communities in America hosted NAZIs during WW2? The people who bought that land were sympathetic to the NAZIs.
Psalms 137:1 By the rivers of Babylon, there we sat down, yea, we wept, when we remembered Zion.
I don't quite know what to say to that. I've never thought of myself in terms of being a "free radical" before but have been called worse. I'm not a Chemist so I don't know how it happens when I float out of the box, your honor. Antioxidants don't seem to prevent it. I guess I'll have to plead No Contest and hope the charge is changed to "free thinker". :) No doubt there are more than a few but I have a hunch there aren't as many as Milgrim's exceedingly grim stats would have us believe.
------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
It seems that an evil clique involved both with the federal reserve and the NAZIs dominated Laurel Canyon. how many communities in America hosted NAZIs during WW2? The people who bought that land were sympathetic to the NAZIs. The Communist Revolution was also gearing up in 1913. I believe WWI and WWII were contrived to advance their aims and the Nazis a false-opposition invention of their Hegellian Dialectic in order to destroy much of the world through war and massively depopulate it.
------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
There is an addendum to that info at biblebelievers.org.au called FRAGMENTARY AQUARIAN CHRONOLOGY. It goes further into issues like UN driven Eugenics promoted by Aldous Huxley's brother Julian. Will cross-link it in your thread on The Aquarian Conspiracy.
------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
Ping
Nevermind. I have the right to remain silent so I'm just going to wear this shirt: ------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
#30. To: Original_Intent (#1)
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#31. To: Red Jones, Original_Intent (#26)
I think he means save it to your hard drive. Just call up each page and save it as an html document and it will come up in your browser. Or print a pdf and save it as a pdf. so you have to go to each link and save the page one at a time.
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#32. To: Bill D Berger (#30)
#33. To: wudidiz (#31)
I think he means save it to your hard drive. Just call up each page and save it as an html document and it will come up in your browser. Or print a pdf and save it as a pdf. so you have to go to each link and save the page one at a time.
#34. To: wudidiz (#31)
#35. To: All (#34)
#36. To: Original_Intent, Red Jones, All (#2)
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#37. To: Original_Intent (#33)
Oh, well don't kick yourself.
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#38. To: Red Jones (#34)
(you) the guy is entertaining in his style. He lists so many details and connections, sometimes he's really reaching. but it is interesting.
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#39. To: FormerLurker (#36)
#40. To: Red Jones, FormerLurker (#39)
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#41. To: Original_Intent, Bill D Berger (#32)
#42. To: Original_Intent (#11)
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At this point it is a holding action, and a wake-up action.
#43. To: wudidiz (#40)
#44. To: noone222 (#42)
#45. To: Red Jones (#44)
these are some of the reasons why I've decided that the real hope for us in the future is that jesus will return, kingdom of heaven will be built here on earth, judgment will occur.
#46. To: noone222 (#45)
#47. To: noone222 (#42)
I have never joined a group such as Aryan Nations nor have I ever even considered it. However, there's an agenda to take whitey down in this country. This whitey ain't takin it.
White Americans that can see should have noticed by now that all media now portrays minorities as the Official in Charge ... the Judge, the Police Chief, The President etc., and whitey as the bad guy. Well, I'm fuckin full beyond capacity of bogus information to listen to anymore of this completely false manipulation.
There is a very real war going on even if most people are still unaware of it.
#48. To: Original_Intent (#47)
I think one of the mistakes people make is thinking of this as a "race" problem when it is a "mind control" problem.
#49. To: randge (#48)
The McGowan articles have opened up some avenues that I've only had intuitions about in the past.
#50. To: Original_Intent (#47)
The attack is being made to appear to be an attack on whites but it is not because they are "white" per se but because we are the dominant cultural group. The attack is actually being made against the culture of resistance and all races but to remove the core resistance, which is largely white, the attack is made along racial lines. It is a tactic as old as warfare "divide and conquer".
#51. To: Red Jones, FormerLurker, Original_Intent (#43)
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#52. To: wudidizRed Jones, FormerLurker, all (#51)
#53. To: Itistoolate, ALL (#41)
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"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#54. To: wudidiz, Red Jones, Original_Intent (#51)
www.whale.to/b/pedophocracy.html
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#55. To: FormerLurker, all (#54)
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#56. To: wudidiz (#55)
Likely this sort of thing has been going on for a long, long time and only recently are we aware of it due to availability of information because of the internet.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#57. To: Original_Intent, wudidiz (#29)
the ‘actor-victim’ requested that the experiment be ended. The ‘teacher’ was consistently told by the experimenter that - "The experiment requires that you continue. Please go on." or verbiage, to that effect. In that scenario, the percentage of ‘teachers’ who were prepared to administer the maximum of 450 volts, dropped slightly [my note: from 65%] - to only 62.5%. Desperate verbiage, versus pounding on the walls, made little difference.
#58. To: GreyLmist (#57)
Suppose, though, that those worrisome stats aren't true -- that they are designed to shock us into despair and mislead us into expecting the worst of the "bourgeoise", for instance, until a smoldering classwarfare is the result. Suppose "The experiment requires that you continue," -- to "Please go on," and question Milgrim himself as a trustworthy authority figure on any of that disheartening statistical imagery. Some food for thought, anyway.
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#59. To: wudidiz (#58)
Can get freaky though. Thinking too much that is.
#60. To: GreyLmist (#59)
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#61. To: GreyLmist, Original_Intent (#57)
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#62. To: wudidiz (#61)
#63. To: wudidiz (#60)
To suggest that Milgrim was lying and manipulated the statistics is radical outside the box thinking. Especially if you're right.
I know of at least a few people that would definitely be abusive given the opportunity like that though.
#64. To: Red Jones (#62)
after I read all 17 parts of McGowan's work at the top of this thread, there were a few facts that stood out. First, the article said that the first real estate development in Laurel canyon began in 1913. If an evil clique did dominate Laurel Canyon, then likely it was that the financial people investing in Laurel Canyon were associated with the evil clique. 1913 is a special year. That is when the federal reserve enabling act was passed thus giving to an evil clique the opportunity and legal authority to create money and get fantastically rich thus enabling their goals. also, some Laurel Canyon land was set aside for NAZIs during WW2.
#65. To: wudidiz (#61)
This is very interesting
#66. To: GreyLmist (#63)
I guess I'll have to plead No Contest and hope the charge is changed to "free thinker". :)
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#67. To: Bill Crowe (#0)
#68. To: wudidiz (#66)
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