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Title: Wiccan Community Upset With O'Donnell, Calls Witchcraft Comments 'Teaching Moment' (Ya can't make it up)
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Published: Sep 21, 2010
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Post Date: 2010-09-21 23:30:40 by tom007
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Your request is being processed... Sam Stein Sam Stein stein@huffingtonpost.com | HuffPost Reporting Become a Fan Get Email Alerts from this Reporter Wiccan Community Upset With O'Donnell, Calls Witchcraft Comments 'Teaching Moment' First Posted: 09-20-10 01:20 PM | Updated: 09-21-10 10:23 PM digg facebook Twitter stumble reddit del.ico.us What's Your Reaction? Important Funny Typical Scary Outrageous Amazing Innovative Finally Read More: 2010 Elections, Christine o'Donnell, O'Donnell Witchcratc, Pagan Community o'Donnell, Paganism, Witchcraft o'Donnell, Witchcraft Politics, Politics News 981 1,251views 4,986 Wiches Christine O'Donnell announced that she "dabbled into witchcraft" during a 1999 appearance on Bill Maher's "Politically Incorrect." Get Politics Alerts * Email * Comments 4,986 Christine O'Donnell's mercurial candidacy for the United States Senate has elevated the issue of witchcraft to uncommon political heights. But not everyone associated with the religion is pleased. Last Friday, remarks emerged from an appearance the Delaware Republican made during a 1999 taping of "Politically Incorrect," in which she acknowledged that she had "dabbled into witchcraft" but "never joined a coven." O'Donnell immediately distanced herself from the quote, asking whether it was fair to hold candidates responsible for the "questionable folks" they hung out with in high school. The clarification may have been the only sane political move for O'Donnell to make. But it had the side effect of angering an already politically sensitive pagan community. "Yes, this was 11 years ago she said that," said Reverend Selena Fox, the High Priestess & Senior Minister of the Circle Sanctuary a non-profit organization dedicated to promoting paganism and nature spirituality. "But the kinds of things she is saying now, saying 'well in high school you are with despicable characters' or some such thing, she is actually defaming Wiccans. Whether she intends to do that or not as a way to try and get herself out of this political problem she has created for herself, the fact is America really needs to be a place where you can celebrate diversity and practice your religion without getting ridiculed or defamed." Fox, who has been active in fighting anti-Wiccan measures in Congress and the military for the past 25 years, showcased a bit of political deftness when she diplomatically called O'Donnell's candidacy a "teaching moment" for the country. Debates over religious tolerance, she offered, have been shrouded recently in heated political rhetoric. And there was now growing concern among both she and members of her organization that "there will be more ridicule as well as more misinformation" about Wiccans and witchcraft because of O'Donnell's remarks. "Any political candidate that is going to equate witchcraft with Satanism is ill informed and is not likely to get the support of people involved in nature religion," she said, noting that the pagan community was "multi-partisan." "I'm concerned," she said. "I'm concerned that 25 years of work that the Lady Liberty League and other Wiccan and pagan civil rights and religious freedom groups have been involved in... that there will be more misinformation as well as ridicule and disrespect. We are living in politically turbulent times." UPDATE: A spokesperson for the neopagan network "The Witches' Voice" who goes by the name "Diotima Mantineia" reached out to the Huffington Post to offer further condemnation of O'Donnell's initial witchcraft remarks. Making the point that there is a "very large pagan community in Delaware," Mantineia called the Delaware Republican's conflation of witchcraft and Satanism "disappointing." I really have to question what she is talking about because witchcraft and Satanism are two different things... witches or Wiccans do not believe in Satan. We don't even believe that Satan exists. Satan is a Christian deity of some kind. He is part of the Christian religion not ours. We worship nature; we work very closely with nature. We do not have blood on our altar and we have little to do with Satan. So I don't know what Ms. O'Donnell is talking about. I wonder if she knows what she was talking about.
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#1. To: tom007 (#0)
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Witches use to be burnt at the stake, look how far we have fallen. ;")
God is always good!
Oh, how that will cut to the quick. To lose about as many votes as you would to lose all the votes of the KKK. There must be nearly a 100 of them.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. He (Gordon Duff) also implies that forcibly removing Obama, a Constitution-hating, on-the-down-low, crackhead Communist, is an attack on America, Mom, and apple pie. I swear these military people are worse than useless. Just look around at the condition of the country and tell me if they have fulfilled their oaths to protect the nation from all enemies foreign and domestic. So were protestants by the catholics during the protestant wars. And way back christians in general were burned at stakes by the Romans. Some accounts state that Romans sometimes lit their streets at night with the bodies of burning christians. Keep that in mind.
How do you get one to burn like a torch anyway. When I try they just fizzle out.
Ron Neil I was being sarcastic, I certainly am not in favor of burning anyone at a stake. This should have given it away ---> ;")
God is always good!
Nero lit his gardens this way one night.
Wrapped in canvas and doused with lamp oil.
Wiccans can be accurately termed the "special needs children" of the magical community. Many don't even have a clue as to the origins of their neo pagan belief system, which has its roots in the irregular Masonic order known as the OTO (Crowley). Comments such as this must be taken with a grin of salt.
I've heard the same thing. Some are smart in a way, but most aren't. And they are usually young, just kids. There's no way in "hell" they will understand anything from Crowley. I've read some of his stuff and it makes no sense to me. I think its funny how some of these people claim to know what Crowley meant about anything. They fake it, to try and impress other idiots. .
Click for Privacy and Preparedness files The second dumbest creature on the face of the earth is the one who cannot recognize its enemies. The most stupid of all is the one who will defend and collaborate with the very enemies that are destroying it and its own kind. -Ben Klassen
I've heard the same thing. Some are smart in a way, but most aren't. And they are usually young, just kids. Actually, those who meet in Salem every Fall are mostly middle aged women and their daughters with an occasional pisswilly husband in tow....
No argument here. But Buzzard made a good point. The so-called wiccans are equated with witchcraft when wicca was the religion that was invented by Gardner in the 1950s www.nvcc.edu/home/lshulman/essays/wicca.htm Not that i'm an expert or anything. I've just been looking these things up lately. .
Click for Privacy and Preparedness files The second dumbest creature on the face of the earth is the one who cannot recognize its enemies. The most stupid of all is the one who will defend and collaborate with the very enemies that are destroying it and its own kind. -Ben Klassen
I soak them in lighter fluid, put charcoal under them and also make hamburgers.
“Let’s not forget that the bankers are the next-door neighbours of the politicians. Most people can see the picture: the bankers grease the politicians’ palms, the politicians bail out the bankers with public funds, the bankers pay themselves fat bonuses and loan the money back to the public with interest. It’s essentially a crime spree that benefits a social elite at the expense of many millions of victims.”
It's just an old practical method, been around for years --- VODKA! Just poor about a quart of rotgut 100 proof down the Lightee. Makes them happy as hell, and more compliant. Be sure to have a pole to slip down the back of their clothes, and a few wraps of wire around them. Then light their hair. Glad to help, anytime.
Very good. Yes, the ones I met were mostly GODSMACK groupies and they insisted that Wicca is a benign practice, and they say "Blessed be" a lot. One young girl went to visit her estranged father and his new family and he quoted the Bible, something about not "suffering witches to live...", so it seems to be something with which to upset the parents, like nose piercings and peacock hair.
#2. To: tom007 (#0)
"Any political candidate that is going to equate witchcraft with Satanism is ill informed and is not likely to get the support of people involved in nature religion,"
Lord Acton
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#3. To: RickyJ (#1)
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Witches use to be burnt at the stake,
#4. To: PaulCJ (#3)
#5. To: PaulCJ (#3)
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#6. To: PaulCJ (#3)
Some accounts state that Romans sometimes lit their streets at night with the bodies of burning christians.
#7. To: wakeup (#4)
How do you get one to burn like a torch anyway. When I try they just fizzle out.
#8. To: tom007 (#0)
"Any political candidate that is going to equate witchcraft with Satanism is ill informed and is not likely to get the support of people involved in nature religion," she said, noting that the pagan community was "multi-partisan."
#9. To: Buzzard (#8)
Wiccans can be accurately termed the "special needs children" of the magical community.
#10. To: PSUSA (#9)
Wiccans can be accurately termed the "special needs children" of the magical community.
#11. To: HOUNDDAWG (#10)
#12. To: wakeup (#4)
How do you get one to burn like a torch anyway. When I try they just fizzle out.
#13. To: wakeup (#4)
"How do you get one to burn like a torch anyway. When I try they just fizzle out."
#14. To: PSUSA (#11)
The so-called wiccans are equated with witchcraft when wicca was the religion that was invented by Gardner in the 1950s www.nvcc.edu/home/lshulman/essays/wicca.htm
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