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Title: Aliens Are Monitoring Our Nukes, Worry Ex-Air Force Officers
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URL Source: http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2010 ... air-force-officers/?test=faces
Published: Sep 23, 2010
Author: Fox News
Post Date: 2010-09-23 22:50:02 by christine
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Views: 802
Comments: 70

Captain Robert Salas was on duty in Montana in 1967 when a UFO shut down the nuclear missiles on his base. And he's hardly the only one to make such a claim.

On Monday, six former U.S. Air Force officers and one former enlisted man will break their silence about similar events at the National Press Club, all centering around unidentified flying objects and nuclear missiles. They plan to urge the government to publicly confirm the incidents, stating that they were ordered never to discuss the events.

"We're talking about unidentified flying objects, as simple as that," Salas told FoxNews.com. "They're often known as UFOs, you could call them that," he added. Salas, a former U.S. Air Force nuclear missile launch officer, will host the event along with researcher Robert Hastings, author of "UFOs and Nukes: Extraordinary Encounters at Nuclear Weapons Sites.

According to the pair, witness testimony from more than 120 former or retired military personnel points to an ongoing and alarming intervention by unidentified aerial objects at nuclear weapons sites, as recently as 2003. In some cases, several nuclear missiles simultaneously and inexplicably malfunctioned while a disc-shaped object silently hovered nearby.

"I was on duty when an object came over and hovered directly over the site," Salas said, regarding the March 16, 1967, event at Malmstrom AFB in Montana. "The missiles shut down, 10 Minuteman missiles. And the same thing happened at another site a week later," he said.

Are they evidence of unknown military action from a foreign country, or are these extraterrestrial visitors? Salas thinks the answer is clear -- and finds it curious that they're so interested in our nuclear arsenal.

"There's a strong interest [in our missiles] by these objects, wherever they come from. I personally think they're not from planet Earth."

Another participant, retired Col. Charles Halt, observed a disc-shaped object directing beams of light down into the RAF Bentwaters airbase in England and heard on the radio that they landed in the nuclear weapons storage area. Both men claim the Air Force warned them never to disclose details of the events.

"The U.S. Air Force is lying about the national security implications of unidentified aerial objects at nuclear bases and we can prove it," Salas said. Col. Halt adds, "I believe that the security services of both the United States and the United Kingdom have attempted -- both then and now -- to subvert the significance of what occurred at RAF Bentwaters by the use of well-practiced methods of disinformation."

The group plans to distribute declassified U.S. government documents at the event that they claim will substantiate the reality of UFO activity at nuclear weapons sites extending back to 1948. The press conference will also address present-day concerns about the abuse of government secrecy as well as the ongoing threat of nuclear weapons.

"This is only the tip of the iceberg, these stories," Salas told FoxNews.com. (1 image)

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#29. To: christine (#0) (Edited)

pulling out the alien card? maybe they're getting desperate....or just playing their end game...a new world order united against a common threat [or in league with a "savior" from another planet, as the case may be]. "aliens"/"ufos" are from the government, which could put the technology to propel them to far better use by providing free energy for mankind. that unfortunately does not conform to their plan for a global plantation, with all of us their slaves forever.

"Today America would be outraged if U.N. troops entered Los Angeles to restore order; tomorrow they will be grateful! This is especially true if they were told that there were an outside threat from beyond, whether real or promulgated, that threatened our very existence. It is then that all peoples of the world will plead to deliver them from this evil. The one thing that man fears is the unknown. When presented with this scenario, individual rights will be willingly relinquished for the guarantee of their well-being granted to them by the world government." Henry Kissinger 1991

"I couldn't help but say to him , just how easy his task and mine might be in these meetings that we held if suddenly there was a threat to this world from another species from another planet outside in the universe. We'd forget all the little local differences that we have between our countries and we would find out once and for all that we really are all human beings here on the Earth together." Reuters, "Reagan Images Star Wars," International Herald Tribune, Paris, Dec. 5th, 1985

"The Soviets and the democracies will adopt the best characteristics of each other and, in the process of many years, there will not be a strict line of demarcation between their ideals; therefore no causes for war between them...because of the the developments of science all the countries on earth will have to unite to survive and make a common front against attack by people from other planets." New York Times "M'Arthur Greets Mayor of Naples," Oct. 8, 1955

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Deathbed confessions, photos support claims that George H. Scherf(f), Jr., was the 41st U.S. president

According to Otto Skorzeny, pictured is the Scherff family and a few friends (circa 1938). Holding “Mother" Scherff’s hand at left is Martin Bormann. In front is Reinhardt Gehlen. In back is Joseph Mengele and to his right is Skorzeny as a young man. At center right (in the German navy uniform) is George H. Scherff, Jr. and his father George H. Scherff, Sr. Bormann became Hitler’s second in command. Reinhardt Gehlen was a chief SS officer and assassin who was smuggled out of Germany under Operation Paperclip. Skorzeny was Hitler's bodyguard and SS spy/assassin who came to the U.S. after the war under Project Paperclip. Skorzeny and GHW Bush were instrumental in merging Nazi (SS) intelligence with the OSI to form the CIA with "Wild Bill" Donovan and Allen Dulles. These guys were also part of CIA mind control experiments such as MK-ULTRA. SS officer and physician Joseph Mengele, the notoriously sadistic “Angel of Death” of Auschwitz, escaped Germany to South America after the war. George H. Scherff, Jr., became the 41st President of the United States as GHW Bush and George H. Scherff, Sr., was Nicola Tesla’s “trusted assistant.”......

"...By and large, Tesla’s inventions and his career were excluded from our history books because his inventions and patents were stolen and then weaponized. It was never intended for us to learn about the suppression of Tesla’s advanced scientific discoveries, nor about those who profited from their theft—the orchestrators of the master plan.

Though much has been written about Tesla’s successes and failures, few have detailed the behind-the-scenes financial activities which disclose a Nazi plot to acquire his technology, while research and development costs had largely been paid (unknowingly) by U.S. taxpayers. Many of Tesla’s patents fell into Nazi hands prior to and during World Wars I and II. As a result, Tesla continuously found himself in litigation over patent rights and other issues.

Although he had succeeded in winning the majority of his patent lawsuits, his technology had been repeatedly stolen and sold to the German Nazis and other foreign governments, so he never achieved the financial success he deserved. The embezzlement of his capitalization went unchecked throughout Tesla’s career. At the time of his death (by murder, according to Skorzeny) on January 6, 1943, Tesla died virtually penniless.

Tesla’s Assistant,

George H. Scherff, Sr.

Nikola Tesla’s successes in discovering new technologies did not go unnoticed by many industrial capitalists and world governments. In fact, many of his inventions were developed through secret government programs which began soon after his discoveries in alternating current (AC), electromagnetic energy, electric motors, generators, coils, radio transmission, energy-saving devices, and wireless transmission technologies.

Since Tesla was often buried deep in research at remote labs, many of his financial and legal affairs were supervised by his closest associate, George H. Scherff. Scherff often advised Tesla about pending patent litigation, contracts, proposals, demonstrations, and financial affairs. As any trusty associate would, Scherff stood beside Tesla through all the ups and downs of his financial nightmares, sometimes arranging for extended credit at the Waldorf-Astoria, where Tesla often resided, or by obtaining a cash advance toward research he had been contracted to perform. Near the end of his career, Tesla was evicted from the Waldorf for an outstanding bill which exceeded $20,000 — a rather large sum for those days.

As Tesla worked on secret U.S. government projects at Colorado Springs, Colorado, Scherff communicated to Tesla the status of his business affairs. Tesla spoke of hopeful, future financial successes, though Scherff repeatedly delivered the news of dwindling funds. Tesla had begun construction of a wireless power transmission tower (“Wardenclyffe,” Shoreham, Long Island) with funds invested by J.P. Morgan. When Morgan discovered that the tower would transmit free electricity and radio waves, he cancelled the project and had the tower dismantled, then sold for scrap. Morgan was not about to allow Americans to receive free electricity, television and radio. Tesla was devastated when he received the news, but continued on with his new inventions......"

The Rockefeller Connection

.....George Scherff, Sr., had connections with the Rockefeller family, though it is unclear if Tesla was at all aware of this connection......

....Otto Skorzeny claimed that the true identity of George H.W. Bush was “George H. Scherff, Jr., the son of Nikola Tesla’s illegal-immigrant, German-born accountant, George H. Scherff, Sr.” .....

Skorzeny did not stop there. He produced a photo of a young Skorzeny, Mengele, Bormann, and the family of George H. Scherff, Sr.. Seated in the midst of those in the photo was a young George H. Scherff, Jr., who, Skorzeny explained, was trained as a spy and sent to America to work for Adolph Hitler. “He was given false identification and adopted by Prescott Sheldon Bush as his “son,” George Herbert Walker Bush,” Skorzeny went on. “He forged a birth certificate in order to enter the military before he turned 18. He was 16 at the time.”

In the family photo, a young Scherff and Bormann both sported a German Navy uniform. Scherff later enlisted in the U.S. Navy as “George H.W. Bush.”.....

A biographical article about Nikola Tesla appeared in the Tesla Tech, Inc. magazine, “Extraordinary Technology,” Volume 4, Number 3, Aug., Sept., Oct., 2006. [15] The article, written by Dustin Wallace, spoke of Tesla’s childhood, some of his inventions, and his last days. Wallace wrote (pp. 21-22), “The Yugoslav Monarchy in Exile was summoned to visit Tesla in the fall of 1942. However, Charlotte Muzar, a secretary, paid Tesla the visit. From his condition upon her arrival she felt as though he may not live through the night. Another friend of Tesla’s, Kenneth Swezey visited him during the time and noted that he was existing on warm milk and Nabisco crackers alone. It was apparent that Tesla was nearing the end of his time. By late December of 1942, Tesla began meeting with two U.S. government agents in order to share some of his most sensitive discoveries. These men carried away many of his documents for microfilming.”

“On January 4, 1943, Tesla’s faithful assistant, George Scherff, visited Tesla for the last time, Tesla was found deceased in his hotel room on the morning of January 8. 1943. He had passed away between those four days since Scherff’s visit.”

The article continued, “Following Tesla’s death the United States Office of Alien Property, under the instructions of the Federal Bureau of Investigation, confiscated all of Tesla’s papers and property. This was an interesting maneuver considering that Tesla was a United States citizen.”

The significance of this benign description of Tesla’s inventions and his last days has a direct relationship to the previously unknown claims of Otto Skorzeny. As Skorzeny described (to Berman) in detail his involvement with George H. W. Bush (George H. Scherff, Jr.) in organizing the CIA by absorbing Nazi S.S. agents,” he intimated that it was Reinhard Gehlen and himself who murdered Nikola Tesla on January 6, 1943 by strangulation/suffocation.

Prior to the murder, Skorzeny and Gehlen “spoke in great detail to Tesla about his most-advanced technologies and then stole the blueprints of his best, most-secret inventions.” ........"

http://www.proliberty.com/observer/20070405.htm

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Did Nicola Tesla's Anti-Gravity machine become what is known as UFO's?

A. During the years of 1935 - Tesla's death in 1943 he apparently designed and he put a paten on his technology. How ever upon his death in the New York hotel, all of his notes went missing. Once again in 1935.

In 1944 - The formation of the C.I.A was written up, this included their tactics to retrieve information that are to this day, inhumane and extremly illegal.

In 1946 the Central Intelligence Group formed

In July of 1947 a ufo crashed in New Mexico, this shows us that the technology needed some work to be perfected, but also a cover-up.

In September of 1947 the CIG is changed into the CIA along with a bill being passed in congress. Called the National Security Act that allowed the CIA to retain its information as top secret and carry out their operations

Is Tesla's anti-gravity machine the technology that has been produced in highly confidential military bases?

The greatest way to bring people together is to unit the people with a common enemy. Today it is terrorism, which is a manufactured enemy which can not be beaten only created, maybe many years down the line it will be aliens to unit the world and giving up our civil liberties.

Ronald Regan can be directly quoted by saying.

"...we often forget all of the that units the members of humanity, perhaps we need some outside universal threat to make us recognize this common bound. I occasionally think how quickly our differences world wide would vanish if we were facing an alien threat from outside this world..."

September 21 1987 speech to the UN

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Maybe its too much to say but one of Tesla's major and last financiers was Percy Avery Rockefeller.

Percy Avery Rockefeller was a skull and bones alum.

The CIA was founded by a skull and bones alum.

Area 51 contains a particle beam accelerator, which was first designed by Nicola Tesla himself as a form of generating FREE ENERGY.

Rockefeller which owns 51% of his paten decided to destroy the technology as he could not profit from it's use.

Tesla seeing its capability as also a weapon greater than the atomic bomb took the design and separated it into several pieces mailing each piece to a different country. So that to build the technology they would all have to build it together preventing one country from using the advanced technology to dominate the world. "

wiki.answers.com/Q/Did_Ni...me_what_is_known_as_UFO's

"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2010-09-24   10:02:37 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: randge (#28)

I cede any claim to the fitness of my observations to your grizzled wisdom.

Much better, very good. hehehehehehehe

Cynicom  posted on  2010-09-24   10:12:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: randge (#28)

If one reads of the Crab Nebula, 1054 AD, long afore Columbus, that event was recorded at several places around the world, even by American Indians. Everyone that did so, did it correctly, it was a celestial event. To them it was just a new star and was so depicted and recorded.

So man does not always get carried away, there are those that record what they saw, understood or not.

Charlatans involved??? In modern day, yes.

Cynicom  posted on  2010-09-24   10:26:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Cynicom (#31)

You are the CYNIC; I'll be the SKEPTIC.

I would like to direct this to the distinguished members of the panel: You lousy cork-soakers. You have violated my farging rights. Dis somanumbatching country was founded so that the liberties of common patriotic citizens like me could not be taken away by a bunch of fargin iceholes... like yourselves. - Roman Moroni

randge  posted on  2010-09-24   10:45:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: Cynicom, randge (#27)

Remember, I am the resident CYNIC here.

the others, history is replete with such mention

And I am the cynic in training. : )

On the up side, I find comfort knowing that the aliens can stop the lunatics in the US and Israel from wiping out all life on the planet. I'm rooting for the ET's on this one.......we the people are unable to influence our governement.

Like those "chariots of fire" coming down from heaven in the bible. The little space ship paintings found in all ancient civilizations. I agree this phenomenon predates most religions.

"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations

abraxas  posted on  2010-09-24   11:12:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: christine (#0)

I am glad they are monitoring our nukes. I was thinking Israel was doing it, thank God aliens are doing it instead. ;)

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2010-09-24   11:14:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: christine (#0)

All your base are belong to us.

“Let’s not forget that the bankers are the next-door neighbours of the politicians. Most people can see the picture: the bankers grease the politicians’ palms, the politicians bail out the bankers with public funds, the bankers pay themselves fat bonuses and loan the money back to the public with interest. It’s essentially a crime spree that benefits a social elite at the expense of many millions of victims.”

Turtle  posted on  2010-09-24   11:53:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: Cynicom (#4)

“Let’s not forget that the bankers are the next-door neighbours of the politicians. Most people can see the picture: the bankers grease the politicians’ palms, the politicians bail out the bankers with public funds, the bankers pay themselves fat bonuses and loan the money back to the public with interest. It’s essentially a crime spree that benefits a social elite at the expense of many millions of victims.”

Turtle  posted on  2010-09-24   11:56:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: christine (#2)

i believe it's impossible that earth is the only planet that has life.

I just wish it had intelligent life.


Waiting too late to oppose tyranny has always led to bloodshed.
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Critter  posted on  2010-09-24   12:10:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: Critter (#37)

lol......

"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations

abraxas  posted on  2010-09-24   12:12:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: randge (#32)

You are the CYNIC; I'll be the SKEPTIC.

A skeptic is a Cynic in training, with training wheels if you will. hehehehehehe

Cynicom  posted on  2010-09-24   12:14:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: Flintlock (#12)

lens flare.

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gengis gandhi  posted on  2010-09-24   12:28:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: randge (#19)

If my goal was to replace one religion with another, this is how I would go about it.

If my goals was to replace all religions with one religion, this is how I would do it.

The noblest man will marry the lowest daughter of a base family, if only she brings in money. And a lady will share her bed with a foul rich man, preferring gold to pedigree. Money is all. Good breeds with bad and race is lost. -- Theognis

Prefrontal Vortex  posted on  2010-09-24   12:43:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: abraxas (#33)

On the up side, I find comfort knowing that the aliens can stop the lunatics in the US and Israel from wiping out all life on the planet.

How do you know they weren't trying to set 'em off?

The noblest man will marry the lowest daughter of a base family, if only she brings in money. And a lady will share her bed with a foul rich man, preferring gold to pedigree. Money is all. Good breeds with bad and race is lost. -- Theognis

Prefrontal Vortex  posted on  2010-09-24   12:44:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: abraxas, randge (#33)

And I am the cynic in training. : )

A true hard nosed cynic has two things going for him, keep and open mind AND WEIGH EVERYTHING AS TO ODDS, JUST AS DOES A POKER PLAYER.

Other words, betting the odds as a cynic as to whether there is advanced life, I go ten to one, THERE IS.

Cynicom  posted on  2010-09-24   12:53:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: All (#6) (Edited)

In regards to the video I posted of the halo over Moscow, expand the video to full screen and take a look at the 2 o'clock position of the ring between 0:04 and 0:06 seconds.

A dark disk shaped object flies out of the ring and disappears.

There are several other such objects coming out of it at various points in the video from different locations.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2010-09-24   13:13:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: Prefrontal Vortex (#42)

How do you know they weren't trying to set 'em off?

They shut them down.

"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations

abraxas  posted on  2010-09-24   13:14:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: abraxas (#45)

They shut them down.

My concern would be that perhaps they were simply demonstrating that there is NOTHING we can do to stop them if they chose to attack.

Of course they HAVEN'T attacked (as far as we know), but that doesn't mean they won't.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2010-09-24   13:16:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: RickyJ (#34)

laughing!

christine  posted on  2010-09-24   13:21:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: FormerLurker (#46)

I think they were demonstrating that they could stop it. It's good to know that somebody can because we are at great risk from our idiotic leaders and it's painfully clear that We the People have no influence or ability to stop them from doing anything. We can't stop banker bail-outs, so we are irrelevant when it comes to nukes.

What we do know is that our own government HAS attacked us multiple times. So, why put anymore faith in them to do the right thing? ET has a better track record than our government. I trust ET more than our own leadership.

"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations

abraxas  posted on  2010-09-24   13:22:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: Critter (#37) (Edited)

it does. me and abraxas! ;P

christine  posted on  2010-09-24   13:23:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: abraxas (#48)

ET has a better track record than our government.

It's the abduction cases that are leaving me undecided. It's quite possible that there are more than just one civilization here "visiting" us, and that some are more benevolent than others.

Then there are the human mutilation cases involved with UFOs that are the most disturbing...

UFO- Related Homicide in Brazil: The Complete Story [from International UFO Magazine]

You should read the warning on the top of that webpage, it warns about graphic images located at the bottom.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2010-09-24   13:36:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: FormerLurker (#50)

I will look into that link.

However, the CIA is killing and abducting everyday. Why put more fear into what we don't know than in what we do know?

"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations

abraxas  posted on  2010-09-24   13:52:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: FormerLurker (#50)

It's the abduction cases that are leaving me undecided. It's quite possible that there are more than just one civilization here "visiting" us, and that some are more benevolent than others.

So, you believe at least one alien civilization exists on this puny, insignificant planet? Those crop circles still have your head spinning?

"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET

buckeroo  posted on  2010-09-24   14:00:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: FormerLurker (#50)

Really gross pics. One factor within the report that is important is the "no signs of struggle" prior to death.

This fellow was already dead prior to this extraction of body parts, but there is no evidence that ET's killed him. Cuts on the cadavre do not mean that the person was hurt while still alive. IMHO, this case creates more questions than answers. That author acknowledges much speculation throughout.

"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations

abraxas  posted on  2010-09-24   14:09:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: buckeroo (#52)

So, you believe at least one alien civilization exists on this puny, insignificant planet?

For all I know you're one of them.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2010-09-24   14:10:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: abraxas (#53)

This fellow was already dead prior to this extraction of body parts, but there is no evidence that ET's killed him.

From what I read this occured while the poor guy was still alive and conscious.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2010-09-24   14:11:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: FormerLurker (#55)

No, toward the top of the article it states that first finding in autopsy--no signs of struggle. Also, as the cuts to the body are described, they are always described as cuts to the cadaver, meaning the person was already dead.

"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations

abraxas  posted on  2010-09-24   14:15:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: abraxas, FormerLurker (#56) (Edited)

No, toward the top of the article it states that first finding in autopsy--no signs of struggle.

OK, I get it . A race of beings smart enough to build star ships can't figure out a way to "pith" a Human like a Frog.

WWGPD? - (What Would General Pinochet Do?)

Flintlock  posted on  2010-09-24   14:27:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: FormerLurker (#54)

For all I know you're one of them [an alien from outer space].

"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET

buckeroo  posted on  2010-09-24   14:35:49 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: FormerLurker (#54)

For all I know you're one of them [an alien from outer space].

"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET

buckeroo  posted on  2010-09-24   14:36:19 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: Flintlock (#57)

I love these speculative threads that go nowhere as I crunch upon a sandwich and imbibe a beer.

"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET

buckeroo  posted on  2010-09-24   14:38:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: buckeroo (#60)

I love these speculative threads

"Speculation"? These things are R-E-A-L, and not of this world...

Bet on it.

WWGPD? - (What Would General Pinochet Do?)

Flintlock  posted on  2010-09-24   14:42:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: buckeroo (#60)

Good to see you getting something solid into you these days.

I would like to direct this to the distinguished members of the panel: You lousy cork-soakers. You have violated my farging rights. Dis somanumbatching country was founded so that the liberties of common patriotic citizens like me could not be taken away by a bunch of fargin iceholes... like yourselves. - Roman Moroni

randge  posted on  2010-09-24   14:43:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: Flintlock (#61)

Speculation"? These things are R-E-A-L, and not of this world...

Bet on it.

Oh my!

Are there any incoming messages from our over-seers?

"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET

buckeroo  posted on  2010-09-24   15:08:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: buckeroo (#63)

Are there any incoming messages from our over-seers?

Yes: Give us a beer!

"Maaa - maa maaaah."

I would like to direct this to the distinguished members of the panel: You lousy cork-soakers. You have violated my farging rights. Dis somanumbatching country was founded so that the liberties of common patriotic citizens like me could not be taken away by a bunch of fargin iceholes... like yourselves. - Roman Moroni

randge  posted on  2010-09-24   15:11:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#65. To: randge (#64)

Beer time is over! It is now time for RedBreast.

"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET

buckeroo  posted on  2010-09-24   15:16:55 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#66. To: buckeroo (#65)

Now that looks like a man's drink.

Beam me up.

A shot glass and no ice, please.

I would like to direct this to the distinguished members of the panel: You lousy cork-soakers. You have violated my farging rights. Dis somanumbatching country was founded so that the liberties of common patriotic citizens like me could not be taken away by a bunch of fargin iceholes... like yourselves. - Roman Moroni

randge  posted on  2010-09-24   15:20:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#67. To: buckeroo (#63) (Edited)

Are there any incoming messages from our over-seers?

Other than the usual "On your knees, bitch!", no

WWGPD? - (What Would General Pinochet Do?)

Flintlock  posted on  2010-09-24   17:56:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#68. To: Flintlock (#18)

the catholics have been trying to gently introduce that thought for a while now, a complete reversal of position. always wondered why the vatican has all those observatories...

but the catholics are clever, saying that if there are aliens, they can have salvation too....

except for the fact that if the gods of religions, etc, are discovered to be all references to these off world entities then the vatican is just trying to keep their job...lol.

because the gods have returned, and we don't need no stinking priests.

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gengis gandhi  posted on  2010-09-25   9:19:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#69. To: gengis gandhi (#68)

except for the fact that if the gods of religions, etc, are discovered to be all references to these off world entities then the vatican is just trying to keep their job...lol.

I vote, just trying to keep their jobs. No real god would create rules, doctrine so complicated that there are over 5000 different ways to interpret them -

THEN

Create flawed beings too stupid to understand.

WWGPD? - (What Would General Pinochet Do?)

Flintlock  posted on  2010-09-25   10:35:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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