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Title: FBI Launching Mass Raids of Antiwar Activists’ Homes
Source: AntiWar.com
URL Source: http://news.antiwar.com/2010/09/24/ ... ds-of-antiwar-activists-homes/
Published: Sep 24, 2010
Author: Jason Ditz
Post Date: 2010-09-25 11:44:36 by Red Jones
Keywords: None
Views: 381
Comments: 35

FBI Launching Mass Raids of Antiwar Activists’ Homes

Posted By Jason Ditz On September 24, 2010 @ 9:34 am

The FBI is confirming that this morning they began a number of “raids” against the homes of antiwar activists, claiming that they are “seeking evidence relating to activities concerning the material support of terrorism.”

So far there do not appear to have been any arrests related to the raids nor, according to FBI spokesman Steve Warfield, are there any expected. He also insisted that there was “no imminent threat” related to the antiwar organization targeted. Some of the activists say they were ordered to appear before a grand jury, however.

The warrant against antiwar activist Mick Kelly’s home cited efforts to look into his ability to “pay for his own travel” to Palestine and Colombia and appeared to have been little more than a fishing expedition looking for possible links to “foreign terrorist organizations including but not limited to FARC, PFLP, and Hezbollah.” Kelly insists that the raids were about harassing antiwar organizers.

Officials said they were related to a Joint Terrorism Task Force investigation. The JTTF in Minneapolis has a long history of heavy-handed investigations against protest groups, including an attempt in 2008 to infiltrate a vegan potluck.

Most of the raids were conducted in Minneapolis and were related to antiwar leaders in that city. Other raids were also reported in Chicago, Michigan, and North Carolina. Many of the homes targeted in Minneapolis were related to the Marxist-Leninist group “Freedom Road Socialist Organization” (FRSO) but this was not the only group targeted.

According to Reuters, Chicago antiwar activist (and longtime gay rights activist) Andy Thayer was also targeted, which he attributed to “solidarity work, for speaking out on the issues of the day.”

CNN also listed the Palestine Solidarity Group, the Twin Cities Antiwar Committee, and Students for a Democratic Society as groups whose members were targeted. The Twin Cities Antiwar Committee’s office was also raided according to the group’s attorneys.


Poster Comment:

since sept 11'th 2001 there have been many muslims arrested simply for political reason. I guess this is just president Obama's affirmative action program, they're trying to criminalize anti-war Americans. I knew the democrats would bring 'change'.

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#1. To: Red Jones (#0)

This nation is more divided now than it has been at any point in our history. Our government has turned against us and lacking a leader, we will be picked off one by one. Glenn Beck should have assembled his masses in front of the FBI building and demanded they stand down, instead of singing hymns at the foot of the Lincoln Monument.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2010-09-25   11:51:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Jethro Tull (#1) (Edited)

Johnny Cash was very anti-war

maybe the government would arrest or harass Johnny Cash if his health had held out.

The only people ever allowed to speak anti-war on american tv are unsavory characters, people who present themselves poorly, tainted characters. Like Rosie O'Donnel or Adinimejad. these people are presented for the purpose of discrediting any anti-war idea.

it is an achievement that most of our people really are anti-war in their guts. but we can't translate that into an anti-war congress because the supply of candidates before us is entirely pro-war. I wonder what happens to real anti-war people who try to get into politics. I'm sure they're dealt with one by one.

Psalms 137:1 By the rivers of Babylon, there we sat down, yea, we wept, when we remembered Zion.

Red Jones  posted on  2010-09-25   12:02:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: All (#2)

Paul Craig Roberts says we live in a police state

we're a police state.

Psalms 137:1 By the rivers of Babylon, there we sat down, yea, we wept, when we remembered Zion.

Red Jones  posted on  2010-09-25   12:08:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: All (#3)

Psalms 137:1 By the rivers of Babylon, there we sat down, yea, we wept, when we remembered Zion.

Red Jones  posted on  2010-09-25   12:12:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Red Jones (#4)

Commie Peace Dyke Nazi's on a Jihad


My joy over McCain's defeat, is offset by my disappointment over hObama's victory.

hondo68  posted on  2010-09-25   12:28:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: All (#4)

punched in the face at a public meeting because he video-taped proceedings. and the governor of Oregon was right there watching the guy get punched.

police state USA.

Psalms 137:1 By the rivers of Babylon, there we sat down, yea, we wept, when we remembered Zion.

Red Jones  posted on  2010-09-25   12:37:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Jethro Tull (#1)

Glenn Beck should have assembled his masses in front of the FBI building and demanded they stand down, instead of singing hymns at the foot of the Lincoln Monument

Glenn's the pied piper of F.E.M.A. or a FOX in Sheep's clothing.

"Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it."

Jesus Christ speaking to the Rabbis of his day.

noone222  posted on  2010-09-25   12:56:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: hondo68 (#5)

Commie Peace Dyke Nazi's on a Jihad

You are just the type of non-thinking moral relativist prick the two party fraud loves. You embrace the jackboot when it's used against those you disagree with and whine like a bitch when it's used against those you do agree with, too fucking stupid to realize that by allowing the one you ensure the other.

Enjoy the taste of leather slave. You've earned it.

"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Director, CIA 1973–1976

Nothing in the State, everything outside the State, everything against the State - Jan Lester, Escape From Leviathan

"When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves in the course of time a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that justifies it." - Frederic Bastiat

Good order results spontaneously when things are let alone. - Zhuangzi

F.A. Hayek Fan  posted on  2010-09-25   13:08:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Red Jones (#6)

What the guy who did the filming should do is file a police report ASAP. And submit a copy of the police report to the governor of Oregon. If the guy still has the master copy of that tape, he should make a copy of it, and send the copy to the police and the governor. Maybe even contact the local tv station to inform them of this and submit a copy of that tape.

purplerose  posted on  2010-09-25   13:35:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: F.A. Hayek Fan, Original_Intent, Lod, abraxas.christine, Amadillo, noone222, Jethro Tull (#8)

You are just the type of non-thinking moral relativist prick the two party fraud loves. You embrace the jackboot when it's used against those you disagree with and whine like a bitch when it's used against those you do agree with, too fucking stupid to realize that by allowing the one you ensure the other.

I find this to be a common thread amongst "conservatives" and it drives me nuts.


"Every Person born within the limits of the United States, and subject to their jurisdiction, is by virtue of natural law and national law a citizen of the United States. This will not, of course, include persons born in the United States who are foreigners, aliens, who belong to the families of ambassadors or foreign ministers accredited to the Government of the United States, but will include every other class of persons.
Senator Jacob Howard, Co-author of the citizenship clause of the 14th Amendment, 1866.

farmfriend  posted on  2010-09-25   13:44:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: F.A. Hayek Fan (#8) (Edited)

You embrace the jackboot when it's used against those you disagree

Wrong. The jack booted thugs are out of control, but that doesn't stop me from ridiculing these stupid phony peaceniks. Maybe some of them don't fit that description, but the speakers seem to. They're NWO tools. But they have a right to be idiots, if they so choose.

F' the FBI jackboots.


My joy over McCain's defeat, is offset by my disappointment over hObama's victory.

hondo68  posted on  2010-09-25   13:49:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: purplerose (#9)

If anyone wanted to ruin Kitzhaber's run for a third term as Oregon Governor, they could name him in the charges. As I recall, it is actionable to witness a crime and do nothing about it.

Somewhere, Jimmy Carter is laughing and saying, "Finally! I won't be the worst President ever!"

mirage  posted on  2010-09-25   13:55:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: hondo68 (#11)

Wrong. The jack booted thugs are out of control, but that doesn't stop me from ridiculing these stupid phony peaceniks. Maybe some of them don't fit that description, but the speakers seem to. They're NWO tools. But they have a right to be idiots, if they so choose.

F' the FBI jackboots

It appeared to me as if you were cheering on the FBI. If I mischaracterized the intent of your comments then I withdraw my statement and apologize.

"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Director, CIA 1973–1976

Nothing in the State, everything outside the State, everything against the State - Jan Lester, Escape From Leviathan

"When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves in the course of time a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that justifies it." - Frederic Bastiat

Good order results spontaneously when things are let alone. - Zhuangzi

F.A. Hayek Fan  posted on  2010-09-25   14:17:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Jethro Tull (#1)

This nation is more divided now than it has been at any point in our history. Our government has turned against us and lacking a leader, we will be picked off one by one. Glenn Beck should have assembled his masses in front of the FBI building and demanded they stand down, instead of singing hymns at the foot of the Lincoln Monument.

Glenn Dreck is part of the problem. His function appears to be to defuse the growing opposition to government corruption and "Perpetual War for Perpetual Peace™". By wasting away the energy of the Tea Party movement in useless and impotent actions it then sucks the energy out of the movement leaving the suckers feeling as though they did something when they were actually sucked into doing something which accomplished nothing.

The Tea Party really scares the elites because it is a genuine movement of mass protest that began at the Grass Roots level. So, they are trying to insert their voices of control such as Glenn Dreck, Sean Vannity, Pills Limbaugh, and Sarah, the life support system for a set of tits, Palin as the leadership of the Tea Party so that they may misdirect and dissipate its legitimate protest into ineffective avenues.

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-09-25   14:30:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Original_Intent (#14)

The Tea Party really scares the elites because it is a genuine movement of mass protest that began at the Grass Roots level. So, they are trying to insert their voices of control such as Glenn Dreck, Sean Vannity, Pills Limbaugh, and Sarah, the life support system for a set of tits, Palin as the leadership of the Tea Party so that they may misdirect and dissipate its legitimate protest into ineffective avenues.

Great paragraph and true.

Lod  posted on  2010-09-25   14:36:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: farmfriend, F.A. Hayek Fan, Lod, abraxas.christine, Armadillo, noone222, Jethro Tull (#10)

You are just the type of non-thinking moral relativist prick the two party fraud loves. You embrace the jackboot when it's used against those you disagree with and whine like a bitch when it's used against those you do agree with, too fucking stupid to realize that by allowing the one you ensure the other.

I find this to be a common thread amongst "conservatives" and it drives me nuts.

That is why the NeoTrotskyCons hate true conservatives because they stand by a set of unwavering principles. Someone who holds a set of principles, with a sense of honor, and then abides by them is the antithesis of the NeoTrotskyCon situational ethics which blows in which ever direction goes the wind. In this sense the NeoConservatives e.g., the dull, ignorant, slack jawed, drooling, doltish, defective, microencephalic, cretinish goobers of the pseudo-conservative crowd of such as Freeptardia, and the Dildoheads, is no different than the ethics espoused by a Stalin or a Lenin.

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-09-25   14:39:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Lod (#15)

Thanks.

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-09-25   14:40:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Original_Intent (#16)

That is why the NeoTrotskyCons hate true conservatives because they stand by a set of unwavering principles. Someone who holds a set of principles, with a sense of honor, and then abides by them is the antithesis of the NeoTrotskyCon situational ethics which blows in which ever direction goes the wind. In this sense the NeoConservatives e.g., the dull, ignorant, slack jawed, drooling, doltish, defective, microencephalic, cretinish goobers of the pseudo-conservative crowd of such as Freeptardia, and the Dildoheads, is no different than the ethics espoused by a Stalin or a Lenin.

For a perfect example of this one only has to read anything posted by domer, Grand Isle, Sweetjusticenow, outdamnedspot and aunt bee just to name a few.

"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Director, CIA 1973–1976

Nothing in the State, everything outside the State, everything against the State - Jan Lester, Escape From Leviathan

"When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves in the course of time a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that justifies it." - Frederic Bastiat

Good order results spontaneously when things are let alone. - Zhuangzi

F.A. Hayek Fan  posted on  2010-09-25   14:44:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Jethro Tull (#1)

singing hymns at the foot of the Lincoln Monument.

I know a guy who was there, it was one big revival meeting, without the snake juggling of course.

The guy told me that Heysus was gonna save us if we grovel hard enough, so everybody on your knees, or grab your ankles. The outcome will be the same.

WWGPD? - (What Would General Pinochet Do?)

Flintlock  posted on  2010-09-25   15:03:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: farmfriend, Original_Intent (#10)

I find this to be a common thread amongst "conservatives" and it drives me nuts.

Not all conservatives are "conservatives".
With the election of Obama this was put on display as both parties switched sides. What they considered good policy under Bush was suddenly considered bad policy under Obama. When it's the same bad policies.
I think more are realizing this.

Real Conservatives, IMHO, agree with Libertarians except on legal drugs and abortion. Bad policy is bad policy regardless which party is pushing it.

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"Somewhere, something incredible is waiting to be known."
-Carl Sagan.

Armadillo  posted on  2010-09-25   20:22:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Armadillo, Original_Intent (#20)

I think more are realizing this.

We can only hope.


"Every Person born within the limits of the United States, and subject to their jurisdiction, is by virtue of natural law and national law a citizen of the United States. This will not, of course, include persons born in the United States who are foreigners, aliens, who belong to the families of ambassadors or foreign ministers accredited to the Government of the United States, but will include every other class of persons.
Senator Jacob Howard, Co-author of the citizenship clause of the 14th Amendment, 1866.

farmfriend  posted on  2010-09-25   20:56:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Armadillo (#20)

With the election of Obama this was put on display as both parties switched sides.

The same statist neo-cons who licked Bush's boots, are now licking hObama's but they'll never admit it. They're waiting for an R to get really enthusiastic.

IMO one other important difference with libertarians is, a sense of country with borders. Some libertarians get it, others not so much. IMO drugs should be legal, not because I want any, but to take the profit out of them. There's no Constitutional authority to control what one puts into their body. To legally prohibit drugs would require a Constitutional amendment, like prohibition.


My joy over McCain's defeat, is offset by my disappointment over hObama's victory.

hondo68  posted on  2010-09-25   21:09:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: farmfriend (#10)

You are just the type of non-thinking moral relativist prick the two party fraud loves. You embrace the jackboot when it's used against those you disagree with and whine like a bitch when it's used against those you do agree with, too fucking stupid to realize that by allowing the one you ensure the other.

I find this to be a common thread amongst "conservatives" and it drives me nuts.

Me too. I'm so disgusted with "experts" on our side, that I think we're our own worst enemy. There is an anti-big government movement growing and I haven't a clue what it's final form will become. What really sucks hard are folks blowing all efforts up before it gain traction. I'm waiting to see what the political landscape will look like after the elections in November. For sure some well entrenched pols will be looking for work. Lets give this all some time before we start shooting insurgents.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2010-09-25   22:13:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Jethro Tull (#23)

I just saw a Meg Whitman for Gov ad. I wanted to barf. She will be Arnies third term. Sigh. She was touting new incentives for Green jobs. Sigh.


"Every Person born within the limits of the United States, and subject to their jurisdiction, is by virtue of natural law and national law a citizen of the United States. This will not, of course, include persons born in the United States who are foreigners, aliens, who belong to the families of ambassadors or foreign ministers accredited to the Government of the United States, but will include every other class of persons.
Senator Jacob Howard, Co-author of the citizenship clause of the 14th Amendment, 1866.

farmfriend  posted on  2010-09-25   22:20:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: farmfriend (#21)

Bad policy is bad policy regardless which party is pushing it.

We can only hope.

However, the mentally defective, slack jawed, slobbering, cretins of Freeptardia and El Pee are continuing to sing the same song.

When it is a Republowcan in office bad policy is good.

When a Demoncrat is in office the same exact bad policy is now bad.

The sheer mind numbed stupidity of the idiot NeoCons, who are NOT Conservatives, is a wonder to behold. For sheer arrogant noncomprehending mind controlled idiocy they are topped only by the skulking denizens of that cesspit known as Defective Underground or the blithering programmed pathetic lunacy of "the nest".

It is on one level, if you look at purely for the comedy value, so hilarious that it is simply sick. However, I long ago stopped laughing.

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-09-25   22:40:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Original_Intent, farmfriend (#25)

... if you look at purely for the comedy value, so hilarious that it is simply sick. However, I long ago stopped laughing.

It is obvious that John Deere didn't like you; you can't enjoy life around you.

"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET

buckeroo  posted on  2010-09-25   22:52:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: buckeroo (#26)

I got along fine with JD/Harry. We did not agree completely on everything but I had great respect for his intellect and integrity, and we agreed on most things.

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-09-26   0:06:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: buckeroo (#26)

you can't enjoy life around you.

I do not require other people's approval. Not that I am a loner, but as long as I stand up for what I believe in and defend it I am content. Not that I don't appreciate other people's kind words as I do, but I don't require it to know whether a post is in keeping with my beliefs. And you're just grousing because I have had entirely too much fun at your expense. Photobucket

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-09-26   0:11:20 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: Original_Intent, buckeroo (#28)

I do not require other people's approval.

I do. At least today. Having a crappy day.


"Every Person born within the limits of the United States, and subject to their jurisdiction, is by virtue of natural law and national law a citizen of the United States. This will not, of course, include persons born in the United States who are foreigners, aliens, who belong to the families of ambassadors or foreign ministers accredited to the Government of the United States, but will include every other class of persons.
Senator Jacob Howard, Co-author of the citizenship clause of the 14th Amendment, 1866.

farmfriend  posted on  2010-09-26   3:00:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Original_Intent, ALL Thread (#27)

but I had great respect for his intellect and integrity,

These two traits shouldn't even be discussed on a thread that debates politics or VOTING in America. Neither have any place in this conversation.

"Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it."

Jesus Christ speaking to the Rabbis of his day.

noone222  posted on  2010-09-26   7:16:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: farmfriend (#29)

I do not require other people's approval.

I do. At least today. Having a crappy day.

Whenever I am having a bad day I always remember the cheerful refrain of the late Robert Anson Heinlein: "Things always look their darkest just before it turns pitch black." ;-)

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-09-26   11:54:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: noone222 (#30)

but I had great respect for his intellect and integrity,

These two traits shouldn't even be discussed on a thread that debates politics or VOTING in America. Neither have any place in this conversation.

Do I detect a subtle note of cynicism here?

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-09-26   11:57:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: Original_Intent (#31)

LOL. Actually I was starting to think I was on everyone's bozo list. With a few exceptions, nobody answered any of my posts yesterday. It was very strange and disconcerting.


"Every Person born within the limits of the United States, and subject to their jurisdiction, is by virtue of natural law and national law a citizen of the United States. This will not, of course, include persons born in the United States who are foreigners, aliens, who belong to the families of ambassadors or foreign ministers accredited to the Government of the United States, but will include every other class of persons.
Senator Jacob Howard, Co-author of the citizenship clause of the 14th Amendment, 1866.

farmfriend  posted on  2010-09-26   12:44:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: farmfriend (#33)

I've had that happen. Sometimes a comment is complete enough to stand on its own so that no reply is suggested simply by the post and its context - either that or its a subject that doesn't trip a lot of triggers.

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-09-26   13:30:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: farmfriend (#33)

Hoping that today's much better for you.

Lod  posted on  2010-09-26   13:38:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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