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Title: I Am Detained By The Feds For Not Answering Questions
Source: Knife tricks blog
URL Source: http://knifetricks.blogspot.com/201 ... by-feds-for-not-answering.html
Published: Apr 24, 2010
Author: Paul Karl Lukacs
Post Date: 2010-09-25 15:08:20 by F.A. Hayek Fan
Keywords: None
Views: 336
Comments: 15

I was detained last night by federal authorities at San Francisco International Airport for refusing to answer questions about why I had travelled outside the United States.

The end result is that, after waiting for about half an hour and refusing to answer further questions, I was released – because U.S. citizens who have produced proof of citizenship and a written customs declaration are not obligated to answer questions.

* * *

“Why were you in China?” asked the passport control officer, a woman with the appearance and disposition of a prison matron.

“None of your business,” I said.

Her eyes widened in disbelief.

“Excuse me?” she asked.

“I’m not going to be interrogated as a pre-condition of re-entering my own country,” I said.

This did not go over well. She asked a series of questions, such as how long I had been in China, whether I was there on personal business or commercial business, etc. I stood silently. She said that her questions were mandated by Congress and that I should complain to Congress instead of refusing to cooperate with her.

She asked me to take one of my small bags off her counter. I complied.

She picked up the phone and told someone I “was refusing to cooperate at all.” This was incorrect. I had presented her with proof of citizenship (a U.S. passport) and had moved the bag when she asked. What I was refusing to do was answer her questions.

A male Customs and Border Protection officer appeared to escort me to “Secondary.” He tried the good cop routine, cajoling me to just answer a few questions so that I could be on my way. I repeated that I refused to be interrogated as a pre-condition of re-entering my own country.

“Am I free to go?” I asked.

“No,” he said.

The officer asked for state-issued ID. I gave him my California Identification Card. I probably didn’t have to, but giving him the ID was in line with my principle that I will comply with an officer’s reasonable physical requests (stand here, go there, hand over this) but I will not answer questions about my business abroad.

The officer led me into a waiting room with about thirty chairs. Six other people were waiting.

The officer changed tack to bad cop. “Let this guy sit until he cools down,” the officer loudly said to a colleague. “It could be two, three, four hours. He’s gonna sit there until he cools down.”

I asked to speak to his superior and was told to wait.

I read a book about Chinese celebrities for about 15 minutes.

An older, rougher officer came out and called my name. “We’ve had problems with you refusing to answer questions before,” he said. “You think there’s some law that says you don’t have to answer our questions.”

“Are you denying me re-entrance to my own country?” I asked.

“Yes,” he said, and walked away.

I read for about five more minutes.

An officer walked out with my passport and ID and handed them to me.

“Am I free to go?” I asked.

“Yes,” he said.

But we weren’t done.

I picked up my checked bag and was told to speak to a customs officer. My written declaration form had been marked with a large, cross-hatched symbol that probably meant “secondary inspection of bags.”

The officer asked if the bags were mine; I handed him my baggage receipt.

He asked if I had packed the bags myself. I said I declined to answer the question.

He asked again, and I made the same reply. Same question; same response. Again; again.

“I need you to give me an oral customs declaration,” he said.

“I gave you a written declaration,” I said.

“I need to know if you want to amend that written declaration,” he said. “I need to know if there’s anything undeclared in these bags.”

I stood silently.

Visibly frustrated, he turned to a superior, who had been watching, and said that I refused to answer his questions.

“Just inspect his bags,” the senior officer said. “He has a right to remain silent.”

Finally! It took half an hour and five federal officers before one of them acknowledged that I had a right not to answer their questions.

The junior officer inspected my bags in some detail, found nothing of interest, and told me I could leave.

* * *

Principal Take-Aways

Principal Take-Aways

1. Cops Really Don’t Like It When You Refuse To Answer Their Questions. The passport control officer was aghast when I told her that my visit to China was none of her business. This must not happen often, because several of the officers involved seemed thrown by my refusal to meekly bend to their whim.

2. They’re Keeping Records. A federal, computer-searchable file exists on my refusal to answer questions.

3. This Is About Power, Not Security. The CBP goons want U.S. citizens to answer their questions as a ritualistic bow to their power. Well, CBP has no power over me. I am a law-abiding citizen, and, as such, I am the master, and the federal cops are my servants. They would do well to remember that.

4. U.S. Citizens Have No Obligation To Answer Questions. Ultimately, the cops let me go, because there was nothing they could do. A returning U.S. citizen has an obligation to provide proof of citizenship, and the officer has legitimate reasons to investigate if she suspects the veracity of the citizenship claim. A U.S. citizen returning with goods also has an obligation to complete a written customs declaration. But that’s it. You don’t have to answer questions about where you went, why you went, who you saw, etc.

Of course, if you don’t, you get hassled.

But that’s a small price to pay to remind these thugs that their powers are limited and restricted.

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#1. To: F.A. Hayek Fan (#0) (Edited)

It's well worth the hassle. You have every right to remain silent because anything you say to an officer will be used against you in a court of law. They will claim you are being "uncooperative" but that is just to force you under duress to waive your Fifth Amendment Right.

You relinquish that Right when you voluntarily provide them with information. Good for that fellow for standing their ground. I have also done the same thing with cops! It worked! They tried to use intimidation on me but it did not work!

purplerose  posted on  2010-09-25   15:31:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: purplerose (#1)

Good for you for standing your ground.

I was afraid that someone was going to mistake the "I" in the title for being me. This did not happen to me and I do not want to take credit for the actions of someone else. I merely posted the article.

This incident would never happen to me because since the invention of the TSA I have refused to fly commercially. The airlines and the government can KMHWA!

"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Director, CIA 1973–1976

Nothing in the State, everything outside the State, everything against the State - Jan Lester, Escape From Leviathan

"When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves in the course of time a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that justifies it." - Frederic Bastiat

Good order results spontaneously when things are let alone. - Zhuangzi

F.A. Hayek Fan  posted on  2010-09-25   15:38:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: F.A. Hayek Fan (#2)

I was afraid that someone was going to mistake the "I" in the title for being me. This did not happen to me and I do not want to take credit for the actions of someone else. I merely posted the article.

I edited my post. Re-read it.

purplerose  posted on  2010-09-25   15:42:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: purplerose (#3)

I edited my post. Re-read it.

:)

"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Director, CIA 1973–1976

Nothing in the State, everything outside the State, everything against the State - Jan Lester, Escape From Leviathan

"When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves in the course of time a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that justifies it." - Frederic Bastiat

Good order results spontaneously when things are let alone. - Zhuangzi

F.A. Hayek Fan  posted on  2010-09-25   15:45:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: F.A. Hayek Fan (#2)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-09-26   0:12:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: F.A. Hayek Fan (#0) (Edited)

But that’s a small price to pay to remind these thugs that their powers are limited and restricted.

Remind them of what exactly? Those are just the CBP but like other agencies they to have killed and covered up. The Innocent have suffered and gang mentality has set into the minds of the LEOs.

You got hassled...Some kops kill for sport. the US has become most fucked up.

titorite  posted on  2010-09-26   0:21:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Eric Stratton (#5) (Edited)

nyone know about crossing into the States from Canada by car? Is it the same? Because they always ask where you've been, what you've been doing, etc.

Yes it is the same. They pull you over and ask what your purpose is for being in Canada and how long you will be there. They ask to see your license and then they check the trunk of your vehicle. I remember this as far back as February of 1986. This was driving into Candada via International Falls, MN.

purplerose  posted on  2010-09-26   0:29:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: purplerose (#7)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-09-26   0:37:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: titorite (#6)

Some kops kill for sport, the US had become most fucked up.

I allege on my web sites that high ranking cops in my hometown and current place of residence, Hammond Indiana are psycho vigilante pigs.

I also allege that the police chief directs his officers to "fabricate" evidence when a citizen is shot and killed by police, and they have and do "kill for sport."

sizzlerguy  posted on  2010-09-26   1:04:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: F.A. Hayek Fan (#0)

Would be interesting to get the customs officer's to reply to the question: why are you asking me this and under whose authority? It's doubtful that the front-line people particularly want to know and add more work to their duties. It's probably someone in Homeland Security or War on Drugs dreamed up the idea. Could be someone in statistics gathering data for publication to say so many Americans went to China as tourists, for business purposes, etc. But don't be surprised if in the future a regulation shows up requiring travelers to state the purpose of their sojourns as bureaucrats forever keep expanding the scope of their "duties."

Tatarewicz  posted on  2010-09-26   3:08:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: sizzlerguy (#9)

i'd like to see your website, if you dont mind. also, i highly suggest statcounter.com. free easy counter that lets you know whenever govt, or anyone else, visits.

"if I have all faith so as to move mountains, but do not have love, I am nothing." 1 Cor 12:31—13:13
"I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him"
George W, Bush, 3/13/02 http://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html

Artisan  posted on  2010-09-26   9:57:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: F.A. Hayek Fan, psusa (#0)

this is an outstanding story & the guy should be applauded. this is really how petty tyrannies are defeated- by resistance, one person at a time.it will most likely not be a group. it will be one american vs the thugs. i might actually try this next time i fly. i'm already on their TSA watch list anyway, with the printout to prove it.

"if I have all faith so as to move mountains, but do not have love, I am nothing." 1 Cor 12:31—13:13
"I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him"
George W, Bush, 3/13/02 http://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html

Artisan  posted on  2010-09-26   16:18:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Eric Stratton (#8)

Legally what is one obliged to tell the sociopaths LEOs?

If you are crossing the border of the U.S., the customs officer checks everybody. It explains the rather long wait while trying to get back into the U.S. As far as legal obligations, when asked to provide them your name, and i.d., it is wise to comply so that they may run a check on you to make certain you are not a felon fleeing the country. If they discover you are a "flight risk" then they have the right to detain you. However, if they do not have anything on you, they have no right to detain you. However, what they did to myself and others was search inside the car and trunk. They found nothing and we were free to go. They say it is standard procedure they with every motorist and pedestrian crossing the border into and exiting Canada.

What bothers me is why this is not being done at our Southern borders!

purplerose  posted on  2010-09-26   20:29:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: purplerose (#13)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-09-26   21:52:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: F.A. Hayek Fan (#0)

3. This Is About Power, Not Security.

bottom line. they're training us to comply and if it weren's for resistors like this, we'd be much further down the tyranny tube than we are now. kudos to him.

christine  posted on  2010-09-26   23:04:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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