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Title: The Battle for the Future Combating progressive fairy tales
Source: reason.com
URL Source: http://reason.com/archives/2010/09/23/the-battle-for-the-future
Published: Sep 23, 2010
Author: John Stossel
Post Date: 2010-09-25 17:19:59 by F.A. Hayek Fan
Keywords: None
Views: 525
Comments: 27

For most of the life of America, and when it grew fastest, government spent just a few hundred dollars per person. Today, the federal government alone spends $10,000. Politicians talk about cuts, but the cuts rarely happen. The political class always needs more.

I see the pressure. All day, Congress listens to people who say they need and deserve help.

The cost of any one program per taxpayer is small, but the benefits are concentrated on well-organized interest groups. It's tough for a weak politician to say no.

But maybe things are changing. Rep. Paul Ryan (R-Wis.), believes that "more and more people in America are beginning to wake up to the fact that this thing is coming unglued."

I asked Ryan why his colleagues say it's OK to spend more. Are they just stupid? Don't they care? Or are they pandering for votes?

"Pandering could be a part of it," he said. "But ... they believe that the government should be far larger." They are taught that by the progressives who rule academia, like Columbia University Professor Marc Lamont Hill.

"We have to make sure that the most vulnerable people are always protected," Hill says. “Everyone benefits when we pay a little bit more to create universal health care. Everyone benefits when we pay a little more to have better public education systems."

Progressives use the word "we" too often. When I argued that "we" and "government" are not the same, he said, "We always talk about the government like it's this monster in the hills that comes down and hands things out and takes our tax money."

Well, yes.

Those are "libertarian fairy tales," Hill says. "In real life, the government is us."

Government is not "us." Well, it's us in the sense that we pay the bills. But it ain't us. It's them, the policy elite and their patrons.

What percent of the economy does Hill think government should be?

"For me, housing, health care and education, in addition to national defense, are things that the government must provide for people. So if that means 20 percent, I'm OK with it. If it means 30 percent, I'm OK with it. I don't think it'll ever get that big."

Give me a break. It's already at 40 percent!

All that spending is taken from your and my pockets—some in taxes, much in sneakier ways like government borrowing. The national debt—now $13 trillion—simply represents future taxes or the erosion of the dollar.

Yet progressives want us to pay more. One woman activist told our camera, "It costs to live in a civilized society, and we all need to pay our fair share."

Our "fair share" sounds good. Progressives say taking from the rich to help the poor is simply fair.

I put that to Arthur Brooks, who heads the American Enterprise Institute.

"No, the fairest system is the one that rewards the makers in society as opposed to rewarding the takers in society."

Brooks wrote The Battle, which argues that the fight between free enterprise and big government will shape our future.

"The way that our culture is moving now is toward more redistribution, toward more progressive taxation, exempting more people from paying anything, and loading more of the taxes onto the very top earners in our society."

But it seems "kind" to take it away from wealthier people and give it to those who need it more.

"Actually, it's not," Brooks says. "The government does not create wealth. It uses wealth that's been created by the private sector."

He warns that "Americans are in open rebellion today because the government is threatening to take us from a maker nation into taker nation status."

Americans in "open rebellion"? I'm skeptical. Handouts create fierce constituencies. The Tea Party movement is wonderful, but it takes strength to say no to government freebies. When I've said to Tea Partiers, "We should cut Medicare, eliminate agriculture subsidies, kill entire federal agencies," the enthusiasm usually fades from their eyes.

I hope that I am wrong and Brooks is right.

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#2. To: F.A. Hayek Fan (#0)

1. Americans in "open rebellion"? I'm skeptical. Handouts create fierce constituencies.

2. The Tea Party movement is wonderful, but it takes strength to say no to government freebies.

1. Until the welfare state collapses. Then government is in a real bind. On one side are the workers whom have been bankrupted by government to shell out for welfare whores, and on the other side are the welfare whores whom are angry at government for not getting their weekly welfare checks.

And folks, we are about to that point. It will probably happen this year or next year, with all the taxes increasing and cost on all products and services going up.

2. John Stossel does not get that it that it is the Tea Party members that are having their wealth stolen by government to pay for those welfare checks.

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#14. To: PaulCJ, Lod (#2)

weekly welfare checks

Lod is right. the welfare checks are a miniscule drop in the bucket. Government is far more likely to transfer income to upper income people than to lower income people. and its big spending items are defense & debt service. Between all defense related spending plus the debt service cost made necessary by the defense spending is 53% of our federal budget. spending on the poor is a very small share by comparison. let us also recall that the big social spending programs are social security and medicare, those 2 programs have associated with them the payroll taxes that used to be dedicated to those programs. but about 25 years ago government started taking that money from the payroll tax that had been dedicated to social security/medicare and spent the money elsewhere. point is - people are hot to cut social security & medicare, but we have a tax already dedicated to that, people have paid in and the money taken. Government essentially forced people to contribute towards insurance in the case hey needed health care or retirement check, and the money was taken by government, diverted elsewhere.

Red Jones  posted on  2010-09-26   17:14:25 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Red Jones (#14)

Lod is right. the welfare checks are a miniscule drop in the bucket.

No, they are not.

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#21. To: PaulCJ (#20)

Lod is right. the welfare checks are a miniscule drop in the bucket.

No, they are not.

While they are wrong in saying that welfare is a "drop in the bucket" neither are you correct in dismissing defense spending. Defense spending made up 23% of the federal budget.

F.A. Hayek Fan  posted on  2010-09-26 18:06:35 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: PaulCJ, 4 (#20)

Paul -

Trust us, but verify, welfare is nothing compared with warfare.

That's acknowledged warfare spending, not including all the off-budget, black-budget expenditures.

It truly pales in comparison.

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