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Title: What Is The Tea Party?
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CBS news
URL Source: http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/ ... &tag=contentMain%3BcontentBody
Published: Sep 26, 2010
Author: Bob Schieffer
Post Date: 2010-09-26 17:18:57 by farmfriend
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Views: 392
Comments: 40
Florida Republican Senate nominee Marco Rubio spoke with Bob Schieffer on what separates the Republicans and Democrats from the Tea Party.
What Is The Tea Party?
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Hmmm that isn't the video. OH well go to link in header.
"Every Person born within the limits of the United States, and subject to their jurisdiction, is by virtue of natural law and national law a citizen of the United States. This will not, of course, include persons born in the United States who are foreigners, aliens, who belong to the families of ambassadors or foreign ministers accredited to the Government of the United States, but will include every other class of persons. I tried to watch the video. and I was looking at his web site to try to see how he stands on the issues. on the video he was speaking about the need to cut spending on social security. did he complain about how since 1983 it has been legal to take the revenues of social security and spend them elsewhere? he did not complain. therefore, I presume that he supports taking the money that is taxed from people's paychecks and diverting it from social security. He didn't shout anything anti-war on the web page I saw, it seems like he's very pro-war. on illegal immigration he stated the same old tired republican words that he wants to get tough on the border. what about auditing employers to find the illegals and punishing the employers. he wears a nice suit, he's raised money for a campaign, but he doesn't even know that we need to audit the employers and punish them for hiring illegals. He's not on my side. My assessment - he's a republican. tea party is a fraud, that is my opinion.
Psalms 137:1 By the rivers of Babylon, there we sat down, yea, we wept, when we remembered Zion.
yeah he didn't strike me as very tea partyish.
"Every Person born within the limits of the United States, and subject to their jurisdiction, is by virtue of natural law and national law a citizen of the United States. This will not, of course, include persons born in the United States who are foreigners, aliens, who belong to the families of ambassadors or foreign ministers accredited to the Government of the United States, but will include every other class of persons. thanks.
"Every Person born within the limits of the United States, and subject to their jurisdiction, is by virtue of natural law and national law a citizen of the United States. This will not, of course, include persons born in the United States who are foreigners, aliens, who belong to the families of ambassadors or foreign ministers accredited to the Government of the United States, but will include every other class of persons. I'm not sure what the TP is, or what it will become, but if it's based on average folks demanding less taxes and smaller central government, it's a step in the right direction.
I guess my experience has taught me to be extremely cynical about american politicians. As I used to be a loyal republican, my strongest ire is turned to that party.
Psalms 137:1 By the rivers of Babylon, there we sat down, yea, we wept, when we remembered Zion.
My sentiments exactly.
"Every Person born within the limits of the United States, and subject to their jurisdiction, is by virtue of natural law and national law a citizen of the United States. This will not, of course, include persons born in the United States who are foreigners, aliens, who belong to the families of ambassadors or foreign ministers accredited to the Government of the United States, but will include every other class of persons. Amen.
"Every Person born within the limits of the United States, and subject to their jurisdiction, is by virtue of natural law and national law a citizen of the United States. This will not, of course, include persons born in the United States who are foreigners, aliens, who belong to the families of ambassadors or foreign ministers accredited to the Government of the United States, but will include every other class of persons. In Florida, our crop of candidates this year is pretty bad. Our governors race is even worse. Pro-Obama Alex Sink vs a Tea Party backed Rick Scott with a questionable past. It looks like FloriDUH again.
------- Look on the bright side. YOu could be living in California with Moonbeam Brown or CFR Whitman as your main choices.
"Every Person born within the limits of the United States, and subject to their jurisdiction, is by virtue of natural law and national law a citizen of the United States. This will not, of course, include persons born in the United States who are foreigners, aliens, who belong to the families of ambassadors or foreign ministers accredited to the Government of the United States, but will include every other class of persons. My sentiments exactly. Bump it. Now, I'm nothing party-wise. Eff'em.
Well I admit that I am third party now but I am actively trying to thwart a Republican/CIA infiltrator from destroying my party.
"Every Person born within the limits of the United States, and subject to their jurisdiction, is by virtue of natural law and national law a citizen of the United States. This will not, of course, include persons born in the United States who are foreigners, aliens, who belong to the families of ambassadors or foreign ministers accredited to the Government of the United States, but will include every other class of persons. Which is? Constitution? Just guessing.
Constitution? American Independent Party. We are the third largest party. We were affiliated with Constitution until the infiltrators took over.
"Every Person born within the limits of the United States, and subject to their jurisdiction, is by virtue of natural law and national law a citizen of the United States. This will not, of course, include persons born in the United States who are foreigners, aliens, who belong to the families of ambassadors or foreign ministers accredited to the Government of the United States, but will include every other class of persons. True. But isnt that the norm for California politics? As much as I like the Tea Party, they really picked a poor candidate with Rick Scott. He has too much baggage from when he was CEO of a hospital. The Tea Party seems to be doing better elsewhere.
------- "What we need is less jobs and more welfare!" - Governor Jerry Brown (while in office) Vote for Brown. Detonate California.
Somewhere, Jimmy Carter is laughing and saying, "Finally! I won't be the worst President ever!"
A) Rubio is woefully uninformed about major problems with the two big entitlement programs........ or B) he is just blowing smoke of the elderly voters' butts for election purposes. I'm leaning toward B on this one.
"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.
It is tempting. I won't vote Whitman that is for sure. I'll be voting Chelene Nightengale. Keeps my party with ballot access, key after Prop 14 passage.
"Every Person born within the limits of the United States, and subject to their jurisdiction, is by virtue of natural law and national law a citizen of the United States. This will not, of course, include persons born in the United States who are foreigners, aliens, who belong to the families of ambassadors or foreign ministers accredited to the Government of the United States, but will include every other class of persons. He didn't strike me as having the set it takes to really be a tea party candidate. Ron Paul he is not.
"Every Person born within the limits of the United States, and subject to their jurisdiction, is by virtue of natural law and national law a citizen of the United States. This will not, of course, include persons born in the United States who are foreigners, aliens, who belong to the families of ambassadors or foreign ministers accredited to the Government of the United States, but will include every other class of persons. Or how about the real answer. C) Rubio lives in the state with the single highest number of retired seniors in the nation and has to kiss their butts.
Somewhere, Jimmy Carter is laughing and saying, "Finally! I won't be the worst President ever!"
That is just an excuse for B...... Keepin' it real is the fact that he knows the entitlement programs are NOT sustainable, yet he is claiming he wants all current and those about to retire to keep all of current benefits, including the UNFUNDED prescription drug benefit that is really a subsidy for big pharma. That's blowing smoke up the elderly voters butts, Mirage.
"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations
To us, it is smoke. To the voters, it is sending someone off to Washington with a mandate to submit bills for what they want. Whether it works or not doesn't matter to the voters. What matters is that their representatives represent their interests. ...which means the system is working as designed...
Somewhere, Jimmy Carter is laughing and saying, "Finally! I won't be the worst President ever!"
That's Florida politics. They deserve representation, just like you and I. Naturally any politician that wants to get elected will pander to his/her constituents. ------- Political realities? You're talking about political realities? Impossible!
WWGPD? - (What Would General Pinochet Do?)
They deserve HONEST representation, just like you and I. I can't believe that folks actually promote and justify lies from politicians "so they can get elected"........no wonder this nations is such a den of corruption. Hence, the problems, like SS & Med. get WORSE. No need to honestly deal with it, just lie about it for votes and carry on. Nothing to see here Looky Lou. It's okie dokie to lie for a job, in fact, folks ENCOURAGE it.
"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations
Designed to destroy this nation and the Constitution. It is not sustainable. This blowing smoke up voters butts is destroying this nation.......I just can't condone it. It's sad because these folks are duped into a false sense of security, when the wheels fall off the cart the goobermint will not be keeping all the promises that Rubio is making.
"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations
Voters have every right to send who they wish off to Washington. Interfering with that would be a travesty.
Somewhere, Jimmy Carter is laughing and saying, "Finally! I won't be the worst President ever!"
lol....this is how we got the great Jimmy Carter. Like I said, this accepting and justification for lies to get votes is destroying this nation. Heck, it may just be too far off the rails to ever get it back on track, especially since voters expect to be lied to and still vote for the dupes. Yes, I suppose it is true, We the People get the government we deserve. Old school principles like integrity and honesty are no longer relevant to the people.....so bring on the corruption.
"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations
The founders would agree with you.
Somewhere, Jimmy Carter is laughing and saying, "Finally! I won't be the worst President ever!"
lol....I'm relieved that somebody does.: ) Lucky us, we have this "new" and "innovative" pledge to America. Wow, they want to roll back spending all the way back to 2008!! But, keep all the entitlements and massive expansion of government just as it is, of course.
"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations
Give it time. Any lock on anything is a good thing. Over time, it will roll back significantly more simply because we are broke.
Somewhere, Jimmy Carter is laughing and saying, "Finally! I won't be the worst President ever!"
lol....how much time Mirage. As I recall, GW Bush was going to make government smaller and more accountable. That majority of R's in the House and Senate were going to balance the budget. It's already been two decades since they pulled out that line......how many more decades shall we wait? Gee, I haven't heard any idiots in DC mention that we are broke. They still have the inheritance of my great, great, great, great, great grand kiddies to waste.
"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations
Not much longer before Mr. Market decides to up the ante.
Somewhere, Jimmy Carter is laughing and saying, "Finally! I won't be the worst President ever!"
Well, I'm not ecouraging it. Just pointing out how all politicians will pander to get votes, and how voters WANT them to pander. None of this is new. Politics has been like that for the past 200 years. Should politicians tell voters the truth? YES. ------- Impossible! Yeah. Posting political realities on 4UM is like showing dracula a cross. ------- Abraxas wants more Ron Pauls.....who don't sugar coat for a vote. Who state that the school loans are a fraud and folks don't need them. Who states that the government is stealing from the people. Who dares speak agains pre-emptive wars. Who actually has read and understands the Constitution. I don't agree with all of Paul's issues, Dillo. I respect and want more of his honesty and integrity though. I'm not going to justify the lies for votes, not because it's been justified for years not because, as you claim, voters "want" to be lied to......I won't justify it because it's destruction. Paul gets re-elected telling the truth. So, there's an example.
"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations
Ok, you got me there. :) ------- Geez, Dillo, you sound like that guy in that movie: YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH!! lol I think people would find the truth refreshing albiet depressing.
"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations
Senator Jacob Howard, Co-author of the citizenship clause of the 14th Amendment, 1866.
#2. To: farmfriend (#1)
#3. To: farmfriend (#0)
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My joy over McCain's defeat, is offset by my disappointment over hObama's victory.
#4. To: Red Jones (#2)
My assessment - he's a republican.
Senator Jacob Howard, Co-author of the citizenship clause of the 14th Amendment, 1866.
#5. To: hondo68 (#3)
Senator Jacob Howard, Co-author of the citizenship clause of the 14th Amendment, 1866.
#6. To: farmfriend (#0)
#7. To: farmfriend (#4)
#8. To: Red Jones (#7)
I guess my experience has taught me to be extremely cynical about american politicians. As I used to be a loyal republican, my strongest ire is turned to that party.
Senator Jacob Howard, Co-author of the citizenship clause of the 14th Amendment, 1866.
#9. To: Jethro Tull (#6)
but if it's based on average folks demanding less taxes and smaller central government, it's a step in the right direction.
Senator Jacob Howard, Co-author of the citizenship clause of the 14th Amendment, 1866.
#10. To: farmfriend, Red Jones (#4)
yeah he didn't strike me as very tea partyish.
Marco Rubio is your standard government-issue Republican. He's not a RINO, but not much of a Tea Partier either.
Charlie Crist has changed his positions so many times no one knows what he believes.
"Somewhere, something incredible is waiting to be known."
-Carl Sagan.
#11. To: Armadillo (#10)
It looks like FloriDUH again.
Senator Jacob Howard, Co-author of the citizenship clause of the 14th Amendment, 1866.
#12. To: farmfriend, Red Jones, 4 (#8)
I guess my experience has taught me to be extremely cynical about american politicians. As I used to be a loyal republican, my strongest ire is turned to that party.
#13. To: Lod, Red Jones (#12)
Senator Jacob Howard, Co-author of the citizenship clause of the 14th Amendment, 1866.
#14. To: farmfriend (#13)
Well I admit that I am third party now but I am actively trying to thwart a Republican/CIA infiltrator from destroying my party.
#15. To: Lod (#14)
Which is?
Senator Jacob Howard, Co-author of the citizenship clause of the 14th Amendment, 1866.
#16. To: farmfriend (#11)
Look on the bright side. YOu could be living in California with Moonbeam Brown or CFR Whitman as your main choices.
Back in the day, Florida Democrats were conservative and Republicans were even more conservative.
Now we have lesser-of-two-evils moderates.
His opponent in the GOP primary was Bill McCollum, a long time politician but generally a decent guy.
The democrat Alex Sink will probably win governor now, thanks to the Tea Partys choice.
"Somewhere, something incredible is waiting to be known."
-Carl Sagan.
#17. To: farmfriend (#11)
YOu could be living in California with Moonbeam Brown or CFR Whitman as your main choices.
#18. To: hondo68, farmfriend (#3)
#19. To: Jethro Tull (#6)
#20. To: mirage (#17)
Vote for Brown. Detonate California.
Senator Jacob Howard, Co-author of the citizenship clause of the 14th Amendment, 1866.
#21. To: abraxas, hondo68, (#18)
A) Rubio is woefully uninformed about major problems with the two big entitlement programs........ or B) he is just blowing smoke of the elderly voters' butts for election purposes. I'm leaning toward B on this one.
Senator Jacob Howard, Co-author of the citizenship clause of the 14th Amendment, 1866.
#22. To: abraxas (#18)
A) Rubio is woefully uninformed about major problems with the two big entitlement programs........ or B) he is just blowing smoke of the elderly voters' butts for election purposes.
#23. To: mirage (#22)
#24. To: abraxas (#23)
That's blowing smoke up the elderly voters butts, Mirage.
#25. To: abraxas (#18)
he is just blowing smoke of the elderly voters' butts for election purposes.
You have to understand most of them come from elsewhere (the North East, such as New York) and bring their politics with them. And they vote.
Would you support a candidate that was running against your interests? No? Neither will the elderly.
They didnt get old by being stupid. They support who best represents them, in their own opinion.
"Somewhere, something incredible is waiting to be known."
-Carl Sagan.
#26. To: Armadillo, (#25)
Would you support a candidate that was running against your interests?
#27. To: Armadillo (#25)
They deserve representation, just like you and I
#28. To: mirage (#24)
...which means the system is working as designed...
#29. To: abraxas (#28)
It's sad because these folks are duped into a false sense of security, when the wheels fall off the cart the goobermint will not be keeping all the promises that Rubio is making.
#30. To: mirage (#29)
Voters have every right to send who they wish off to Washington.
#31. To: abraxas (#30)
We the People get the government we deserve.
#32. To: mirage (#31)
The founders would agree with you.
#33. To: abraxas (#32)
Lucky us, we have this "new" and "innovative" pledge to America. Wow, they want to roll back spending all the way back to 2008!! But, keep all the entitlements and massive expansion of government just as it is, of course.
#34. To: mirage (#33)
#35. To: abraxas (#34)
It's already been two decades since they pulled out that line......how many more decades shall we wait?
#36. To: abraxas (#27)
I can't believe that folks actually promote and justify lies from politicians "so they can get elected"........no wonder this nations is such a den of corruption. Hence, the problems, like SS & Med. get WORSE. No need to honestly deal with it, just lie about it for votes and carry on. Nothing to see here Looky Lou. It's okie dokie to lie for a job, in fact, folks ENCOURAGE it.
Elderly voters want candidates to represent their issues.
Gay voters want candidates to represent their issues.
Black voters want candidates to represent their issues.
Abraxas wants candidates to represent her issues.
Will they? No. If they did, they would never get elected.
So the country spirals down...
"Somewhere, something incredible is waiting to be known."
-Carl Sagan.
#37. To: Flintlock (#26)
Political realities? You're talking about political realities?
"Somewhere, something incredible is waiting to be known."
-Carl Sagan.
#38. To: Armadillo (#36)
Abraxas wants candidates to represent her issues.
#39. To: abraxas (#38)
Paul gets re-elected telling the truth. So, there's an example.
Ron/Rand Paul types are not electable everywhere though. Not yet anyway.
"Somewhere, something incredible is waiting to be known."
-Carl Sagan.
#40. To: Armadillo (#39)
Ron/Rand Paul types are not electable everywhere though. Not yet anyway.
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