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Title: The Obama Boomerang
Source: antiwar.com
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Published: Sep 27, 2010
Author: Raimondo
Post Date: 2010-09-27 11:15:26 by ghostdogtxn
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Views: 645
Comments: 66

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#1. To: ghostdogtxn (#0)

The Obama Boomerang

...always veers to the left and hits the wrong target every time. What else could you expect from a niggerfied stick flying through the air??

X-15  posted on  2010-09-27   11:56:15 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

ghostdogtxn  posted on  2010-09-27   12:56:01 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Why do you have to go there?

He's a fascist, and that's enough insult for anyone...

Agreed. All it does is detract from the important core issues of Police State tactics to repress dissenting opinion.

Now calling it an "Obamarang" is fair game.

Drawing attention to race only discredits the legitimate opposition to the criminal behavior of the Soetoro maladministration.

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-09-27   14:41:26 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

fair enough, but i'm sure i don't have to remind you that there's a double standard for use of certain words. it's acceptable for negroes to use the word nigger and other racial epithets but whites are derided for it. that's not right.

christine  posted on  2010-09-27   15:44:29 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

fair enough, but i'm sure i don't have to remind you that there's a double standard for use of certain words. it's acceptable for negroes to use the word nigger and other racial epithets but whites are derided for it. that's not right.

I agree it is not right and not fair and it is also irrational. However, insanity and irrationality run amok on Planet Earth. I have no problem with holding myself to a higher standard. I generally avoid such inflammatory language because it does not promote my personal beliefs. There are a lot of blacks I've run into that I would call "niggers" just as there are many whom I've known who are good and decent people. I choose to avoid such epithets because it is the behavior I object to not the color of someone's skin, the shape of their eyes, their shoe size, or any other characteristic which is not relevant or reflective of just what it is I am criticizing or lauding.

Anti-social and hateful behavior does not have a skin color. I've met hateful people of all colors and loving and decent people of all colors. One of the most fundamentally decent and downright nice people I have ever known was a black gentleman I worked with. Though he had a shortage of schooling he was nevertheless a natural born gentleman. I can observe daily in people around me examples of both decency and degeneracy, and when one factors in education and other relevant charateristics it really is not in my experience a function of race. It is a function of personality, education, upbringing, who that person is as a self aware being, and how they regard others around them. All of these are reflected in someone's behavior.

It is not out of any adherence to "Political Correctness", which I despise, that governs my speech or viewpoints but my belief in rights of all sentient beings to those rights which have been named "unalienable".

Because someone holds their standards low and engages in hateful behavior and vulgar speech does not require me to live down to their standards. Instead I choose, and it was and is a conscious choice, to not feel any obligation to reciprocate those low behaviors and standards. If we are ever to build a thriving and decent civilization we must, all peoples, rise above the urge to hate and to engage in "justification" for acts and speech which we know, in the innermost reaches of our soul, are wrong. Being a realist I also know that will not be anytime soon. However, it does not relieve me of holding to the standards and actions I know to be right and conducive to good.

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-09-27   16:14:03 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Anti-social and hateful behavior does not have a skin color

The proportion of blacks/Hispanics in jail suggests otherwise. Having worked in exclusively minority areas and then exclusively white areas of NYC, the white areas are markedly safer. Surely you'd agree? This isn't unique to NYC, as every city has a similar situation. John Lindsey, probably before you were born, liked to blame this discrepancy on something he called "the real root causes" of crime in the ghetto. His answer was to open the welfare tap. I'm here to tell you it didn't help, as the slums were still violent despite the taxpayer largess. White Flight was the result of their violence, and my heart went out to the poor folks left behind who literally sealed themselves into their apartments with wrought iron bars. It is an experience I'll never forget, and one that is still ongoing.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2010-09-27   16:29:24 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Anti-social and hateful behavior does not have a skin color

The proportion of blacks/Hispanics in jail suggests otherwise. Having worked in exclusively minority areas and then exclusively white areas of NYC, the white areas are markedly safer. Surely you'd agree? This isn't unique to NYC, as every city has a similar situation. John Lindsey, probably before you were born, liked to blame this discrepancy on something he called "the real root causes" of crime in the ghetto. His answer was to open the welfare tap. I'm here to tell you it didn't help, as the slums were still violent despite the taxpayer largess. White Flight was the result of their violence, and my heart went out to the poor folks left behind who literally sealed themselves into their apartments with wrought iron bars. It is an experience I'll never forget, and one that is still ongoing.

I'll agree that, that is largely true for lower class black areas but is not true for middle class black areas. I'm enough of a realist to understand that there is a lot of crime in lower class black areas, and even more so than most areas that are predominantly White, Chinese, or Japanese. However, there is still crime, but it is a different kind of crime, and the violence is largely below the surface. Actually, programs such as welfare, which you correctly call the "welfare trap", IMHO made things worse as it removed the need to work and be productive to survive.

I still find it interesting, and at times frustrating, that people cannot see that a lot of the black crime culture has been created, and created intentionally, by the same people who are excoriated for their other crimes - the Banksters and the Psychiatrists. It is obvious to many people now the economic crimes being committed, and even the "hate whitey" mentality now being promoted openly on the Tee Bee, and yet the people who are able to see that are unable or unwilling to see how the same types of PsyOps and manipulations were being run on the black community as far back as at least the early 60's.

When crime is the only way to make a living then people will, out of survival needs, turn to crime. Without an education and a way to make a living you have the choice of going on the dole, if you can, or turning to doing whatever you have to do to earn a living. The dumbing down of America began first in Black America. I've stepped through the chain here a number of times now in a number of posts (not to you but others) that shows step by step how it was done. Just in outline form:

1. Undermine the civil rights movement and the push of black equality of access and nondiscrimination in hiring, education, accommodations, etc., .... Black America was waking up in the 50's and as a community, and as a result of Church activities, was beginning to broadly see that education and economic opportunity were the path out of servitude and subordinate citizenship. Our beloved shadow government, eugenics driven psychotics, just could not abide by that thought that blacks might actually succeed in emancipating themselves.

2. Create dependency through welfare rewarding dysfunctional behavior (illegitimacy) by penalizing normal survival behavior i.e., marriage and family.

3. Movements that spring up to foster independence are attacked and subverted e.g., the Black Panthers who were originally largely about community involvement, education, and economic independence.

4. Create a drug problem. The CIA is the major importer and supplier for the black ghetto drug gangs.

5. Create an environment where education is considered "acting white" and encourage failure by promoting black kids into schools they are really not prepared for thus they either flunk out or are seen as "affirmative action" graduates.

And on and on. I could spend a couple of hours showing in more detail how it was done, but you are an intelligent man and if I could simply convince you to set aside any bitterness and distaste, however legitimately inspired, I think you could convince yourself of the veracity of the point I am trying to make. I am not trying to excuse bad behavior but trying to show how the environment that promotes it was created.

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-09-27   18:23:48 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

I'll agree that, that is largely true for lower class black areas

I am not trying to excuse bad behavior but trying to show how the environment that promotes it was created.

The crime of central Appalachia, isn't a blip to that of central Harlem or East LA. The only difference being the color of the inhabitants.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2010-09-27   18:47:15 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

#35. To: Jethro Tull (#33)

The crime of central Appalachia, isn't a blip to that of central Harlem or East LA. The only difference being the color of the inhabitants.

Different culture, different environment. The residents of Appalachia are free, and have been free so long as they have lived in this country. As well the population density is lower. Even in the black community where the crime rate is higher to begin with the higher the population density the higher the crime rate. The crime rate in poor white urban neighborhoods would I'll bet be higher than Appalacia as well. I have a friend who is a bus driver, black, from NYC and who grew up poor, but did escape the crime trap. He's the one who says "I don't speak homey". However, culture did play a roll - his parents were from the Caribbean. I have noticed that blacks from other countries do not behave as do American lower class blacks. In fact they often look down on American blacks as a bunch of whiny low class, ill mannered, crybabies. These black immigrants are often very hard working, well spoken, and polite. Again, a different culture.

Again I don't relieve people of responsibility for their actions because they have been ground under the boot heel. Regardless they are responsible for their actions.

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-09-28 01:59:39 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

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